Night of the Living Dead
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Episode 99 takes us to a small isolated farmhouse as the team experience George A Romero’s game changer “Night of the Living Dead”. A film which teaches us to always check the small print (or lack thereof); that armed posses can be somewhat trigger happy (who’d a thunk it?); and that offal is best served raw, and on the lawn, at night. Along the way we discuss “The Monster Club”, “Come To Daddy”, “The Crow”, “The Vast of Night”, “The Haunting of Bly Manor” and “The Wolf of Snow Hollow”. Watch (or re-watch) to avoid spoilers, and join us. APOLOGIES FOR ANY SOUND QUALITY ISSUES -CURRENT QUARANTINE MEASURES MEANT WE HAD TO RECORD THIS EPISODE REMOTELY.
Don't you know what's goin' on out there? This is no Sunday School picnic!
Famous lines
- "They keep coming back in a bloodthirsty lust for HUMAN FLESH!"
- "We may not enjoy living together, but dying together isn't going to solve anything." — Helen Cooper
- "They're coming to get you, Barbara!" — Johnny
- "The cellar is a death trap!" — Ben
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Lee Good evening and welcome to episode 99 of
Lee Welcome to Horror.
Lee I'm Lee.
Chris I'm Chris.
Adam I'm Adam.
Unknown I'm Jennifer.
Lee Uh, I honestly, guys, I'm gobsmacked. I never, when we first started doing this, I thought we would possibly manage 30 episodes.
Unknown You wouldn't even think, you know, make it keep there.
Chris Well.
Adam Okay.
Unknown Here we are, on a 99.
Lee 99 episodes.
Adam Which means that technically Welcome to Horror now comes to you with a flake.
Chris Yes.
Lee Oh.
Unknown You're a bit flakey some of you.
Chris Yes.
Chris But it's also nice and creamy.
Lee Mm.
Lee Let's move away from that.
Lee Um,
Lee Uh, Chris, have you watched anything this week?
Chris I have, I went for Come to Daddy.
Unknown Ooh, nice. Yeah.
Chris Yeah, Elijah Wood.
Lee Yeah.
Chris in a, in a very unusual role, I think, nothing like I've seen him before.
Chris Um, and and who else was in it? It's, uh, the, the guy from Kill List, Michael Michael Smiley. Michael Michael Smiley's in it as well, yeah.
Lee Is it?
Adam Oh, right. I'll definitely gonna watch it then, that's a guarantee.
Lee I didn't tell you that, Adam, it was gonna be a surprise.
Lee But yeah.
Chris Ah.
Chris So I, I thought Adam had watched it as well.
Adam No, I've still not seen it.
Adam And also it's got,
Chris Amazing, I've seen something Adam hasn't seen.
Adam And Stephen McHattie from Ponty Pool.
Lee It certainly does.
Chris Yeah, so yeah, well, I won't say too much then. Um, but yeah, it's, uh, it it gave me a, a slight reminiscent of I'd say Pulp Fiction, although that's not gonna come across the way I'm thinking of it.
Chris But just because there are definitely some scenes where you're like, where's that come from? And yet it, you know, it carries on moving and entertaining, uh, and horrifying.
Unknown Shock value a bit, maybe?
Chris Yeah.
Chris Yeah, and a few odd statements from each of the, the cast throughout.
Unknown Mm.
Lee It is really good and again, I, I really liked, like the, the twist and stuff in, you know, multiple.
Chris Yeah, yeah.
Lee Um, that's a film I reckon I could go back and rewatch quite easily.
Chris Good, good horror comedy.
Lee Yeah, fantastic.
Unknown Oh, good call. Well done, Chris.
Adam Was that it for you, Chris?
Chris Yep.
Adam Okay.
Adam No.
Unknown That's all he needed, having watched that.
Chris I I did also watch some of The Mandalorian, but, you know, it's not horror.
Unknown Uh, season one.
Chris Oh, yeah, I thought I better, I better actually get to it, so I really pushed myself to watch a bit more this week and, uh, got through two episodes, I think.
Lee Oh, season two starts on
Chris That's what I thought.
Chris I've really had to season two.
Lee It's brilliant.
Lee It's so,
Chris Yeah, I know, it's, yeah, that's, it's great, yeah.
Lee I I was a bit unsure at the first if it was all gonna go a bit daft and cutesy, but actually it, it didn't, it, it was really good and I enjoyed every episode.
Lee I think I enjoyed it more and more as it rolled on as well, I think it got progressively better.
Lee Once you sort of got to grips with the world and the characters in it.
Lee Um,
Chris Okay.
Adam Does Werner Herzog act towards the end?
Lee Uh, I can't remember. Yes, he is in the later episode. Is he?
Lee I think he is.
Chris He seemed like he might be important.
Adam It's Werner Herzog, he is very important.
Lee Oh.
Lee But yeah, it's again, could rewatch that because that was a year ago now that that first aired and we watched it.
Lee Um, yeah, so I don't really remember it in any great detail.
Adam I also finished watching the first series as well.
Adam I think I only got up to episode three and then I can't remember why I stopped watching it.
Unknown Oh, I don't.
Adam I maybe my insomnia cleared up, I don't know.
Lee Oh.
Lee I think it felt, it took about three episodes to get going and then once it was going, it got really good the later, the later into the season it went, so, uh,
Lee Yeah.
Lee Anyway, sorry, uh, Adam.
Adam You're.
Lee So what did you see?
Adam What did I see? What did I see?
Adam Well, I watched an old favorite 'cause I bought it on Blu-ray, forgot that I had it, found it, and I was like, oh, yeah, I've got that because I assume we'd be doing it on Welcome to Horror soon.
Adam And it was ages ago, and we've still not got it lined up.
Adam But, so I thought I'm pretty safe to watch it for the moment, so I watched The Monster Club.
Unknown Ah.
Lee Oh, yes.
Unknown You've not done that yet?
Lee Yes.
Unknown Oh, you'd have pushed to that ages ago.
Lee No, I know, I love that film so much.
Adam But, um, yeah, so that was just, uh, a great, great deal of fun as usual.
Adam Uh, it's the first time Player's seen it, so she, it's, um,
Unknown She liked it?
Adam Yeah, she, well, it's her second dose of Donald Pleasance since, uh, because of Halloween. And she just really, all Claire ever asked me is, can you show me another Vincent Price film?
Lee Yes.
Lee There's like, there's 140 of.
Adam But but distinctly in the more sort of vibey end of stuff.
Adam And I was like, yeah, I think that's, that definitely sits in that department.
Adam Um,
Adam So yeah, so I, I watched that. I not much point in going too into it 'cause I don't wanna spoil it in case for Chris because it'll probably come up at some point, won't it?
Adam So.
Lee Is fun, though, I don't think it's particularly well known because even as a big fan of Vincent Price, I hadn't heard of it.
Lee Um, and we were doing a, uh, we were doing an all day Vincent Price marathon, and we invited a friend of ours who worked at HMV.
Lee And she turned up with two Vincent Price movies, yeah, and one of them was, um, that, and the, I can't remember what the other one was.
Lee But yeah, but she turned up with Monster Club and we put it on.
Lee And I was just totally blown, I was like, how have I never seen this?
Lee As you say, Donald Pleasance as well, and it's an anthology movie and it's all the stories are so different and it's so campy and just amazing, absolutely amazing.
Adam It's a weird one for me because it is a, a film that I saw very early on.
Lee Mm.
Adam Like and, um, yeah, it was just on the telly one night.
Adam And but again, the weirdest thing was is I think it was that sort of thing when there was a regular season of putting on horror films or whatever like that.
Adam And I think The Monster Club was part of it, and it was like, unlike everything else that were in the thing, it was like, this isn't scary.
Lee Mm.
Adam And then it's, no, but it's hilarious.
Lee Yeah.
Lee I do, I do have to skip through the songs, though.
Adam Yeah, I find, I find,
Lee Too campy.
Adam I find the songs are the best point to go and get another drink, treat, or just have a poop break.
Unknown It's a nice interval, is it?
Adam Yeah.
Adam So every so often you can go and replenish, which is good.
Adam So, um, yeah, so I, I watched that and, uh, also watched The Vast of Night.
Adam Has anyone seen that?
Lee It's the alien one.
Adam Yes.
Lee Yes, I have seen it. Uh, Dani, previous guest told me about it, what an incredible low-budget movie.
Adam I'm, I thought you would like it 'cause it was, it, it, it's quite Close Encounters, but if David Lynch had made Close Encounters rather than Steven Spielberg.
Lee Yeah.
Adam So it was all 50s and 'cause that was, it reminded me of like cross between Close Encounters and the eighth episode of Twin Peaks series three, which is the one where they just go into like a huge black and white meta story of the bomb going off in New Mexico.
Lee We didn't get that far in.
Unknown Lee wouldn't have got that far. Lee gave up.
Adam Just seriously, just as a standalone because it doesn't matter that you don't see any, but it's like it gives you the origins of Bob, essentially, but related to, um, yeah, nuclear testing in America.
Unknown Oh, cool, that sounds all right. Yeah.
Adam And it's, but it's just really stunning. It's one of those things where you're like, uh, I can't believe this is actually on the telly.
Unknown No.
Adam Um, but, um, yeah, but yeah, Vast of Night had, had that sort of, uh, that that end of David Lynch, like the nostalgic 50s, uh, sort of end.
Adam But no, I thought it was just, I thought it was really good, the main guy sounded so much like Marcus Parks, it was unreal.
Lee Yeah. I found him a bit diffi,
Lee I found him a bit difficult at first, he was talking so fast I was like, whoa, I'm gonna have to put subtitles on. Like he's just so so very southern and speaking so quickly, I was like, you're gonna have to slow this down.
Lee And again, it's all 50s dialect as well, so I was like, I don't know half of what he's saying, but yeah, it's amazing.
Adam Yeah, because it's it starts off and it's very like when you watch like 30s films and they're like, so kid, what are you doing here? Well, I came around to see the fellow, he was laying, what are you doing here? Well, really, yeah. But like you say, but that with like a, a pretty heavy Texan accent and like, yeah.
Adam Um, but he, um, no, I just, I thought that was really, I just really enjoyed it.
Adam As it was weird because there was the sound design side of it and the music side of it that I really enjoyed.
Adam I did find, I liked the, the bit at the start where it starts off and it's like it's an episode of The Twilight Zone.
Lee Mm.
Adam I did find that weird that they kept going back to it every so often and I wasn't quite sure that it was ever at any point that mattered or made a significance.
Adam In an odd way, I think they sort of bottled their exposition moments and were like sort of, this is just two people talking in a room, what are we gonna do for this bit?
Adam Oh, we could go back.
Adam Um.
Adam But that's, that was like a minor sort of quibble I would have had with it.
Adam But.
Adam No.
Adam Essentially, I just thought it was really well done and on that minute budget to do a successful period piece and a successful UFO.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Yeah, I was very sort of, um, I was very taken with it so I enjoyed that.
Adam Uh, I did watch a third horror related thing but that will, that, that was, um, Birth of the Living Dead, which is the documentary about Night of the Living Dead.
Adam So yeah.
Lee Oh, and the other thing just very quickly that I loved about Vast of Night that I've just remembered.
Lee Um, because it takes plat in a, takes place in a small town, it's done on this super low budget, when they kept changing from scene to scene, and they do that thing where the camera like dropped to the floor, and then literally flew through the town to the next location.
Lee I absolutely loved that.
Lee I thought that was amazing, like it was it was just a little thing, but to get from place to place instead of just cutting from scene to scene, it literally dropped the camera and moved it to the new location.
Lee I thought it was just such a clever idea.
Adam And but I think because that was the other thing that I I enjoyed about it because obviously there's the bit at the start where they're having the sort of discussion that is kind of a cliche in, you know, period dramas again where it's like, um,
Adam I saw a man today and he stood up in parliament and he said a magnific, he spoke magnificently. I would say that young man might be Prime Minister one day.
Adam His name was Winston Churchill. And they have that sort of talk about stuff where it's like self-driving cars and all stuff that is coming to pass now.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And then they and basically she then described the smartphone than the one he dismissed.
Adam But it was the rest of the film made me realize that that was in there because the whole thing is about that inability to communicate instantaneously at that point.
Lee Yeah.
Adam So like the, the low sort of trail bits through the town and stuff like that, it was almost like following like a, a phone signal through where because obviously, um, the, um, uh, the girl in it works in the, uh, telephone exchange.
Lee Yeah.
Adam So she's at the center of the communications but it's all so basic and so ridiculous that you're like, oh, yeah, in that situation people would be driving around in their cars asking each other what they've seen.
Adam Because there's no way, no one's got a mobile phone, no one's got a phone in their car.
Adam It's like, yeah, completely.
Lee Did you notice the name of the radio station as well?
Adam I did but I've forgotten what it was.
Lee It was WOW.
Lee So it was War of the Worlds, if I remember correctly. Yeah, that makes sense.
Adam Yeah, that makes sense.
Lee Something like it. It was something that kind of I saw it and thought, that's probably a reference.
Lee And as soon as I wrote the letters down and I was like, oh yeah, of course it is.
Lee Yeah, I'm sure it was War of the Worlds or something like that, yeah.
Adam Um, my brain was probably going, Walk on the Wild Side.
Lee Oh.
Adam But, um, so yeah, but that's, and that's all the weather.
Lee Excellent.
Unknown Jennifer.
Unknown What have we watched?
Unknown Well, as it's the month of October, we have been working our way through our Halloween list.
Lee We have.
Unknown Which keeps getting longer and there's probably just about enough days in the month to fit them all in.
Lee There isn't.
Chris You both agree on what you should watch for Halloween.
Unknown Uh, there's a few that Lee's put on there that he wants to watch and he'll watch them on his own 'cause I'm not that bothered.
Unknown But the majority are ones that we're like, ooh, yeah, we both want to watch that.
Unknown So there's enough films I think out there we both agree on.
Unknown Um, so yeah, so, uh, most recently then The Crow.
Unknown From 1994.
Chris Oh.
Adam Wow.
Unknown Oh.
Unknown Yeah.
Unknown Yeah, now, a classic, obviously at the time, we were all teenagers, it was the Goth, you know, fantasy film, wasn't it?
Unknown It was, you know, everyone,
Unknown Chris, wanted to dress up as Brandon Lee for Halloween.
Chris Yeah.
Unknown Still got the picture somewhere, I will not lie.
Lee Oh my.
Unknown Um.
Unknown Yeah, so I went into it thinking, is it gonna hold up?
Unknown But, you know, we'll give it a go because I've been listening to the soundtrack again, which is bloody good.
Adam The soundtrack's fucking incredible.
Adam And that's my favorite Cure song of all time.
Unknown Yes.
Lee Yeah.
Lee Mine too.
Unknown Well, that's what started it was on Lee's Halloween playlist.
Unknown And I was like, oh my God, yeah, that's from The Crow.
Unknown And then I was like, right, um, yeah, let's watch it.
Unknown Um, I thought it stood up.
Unknown I think because it is a comic book, uh, you know, take off, I think it's, you know, therefore it's not sort of dated.
Unknown It's not, 'cause it is set, you know, sort of within that fantasy world almost anyway.
Adam Yes, it's a bit amorphous, it doesn't really have a, a time or place properly, really.
Unknown Exactly, so I don't think any of that dated it.
Unknown Um, I'll.
Chris I'm trying to remember the story exactly because I've probably haven't watched it since, since it came out.
Chris So he is, he was kind of an early anti-hero, wasn't he?
Lee Yeah.
Chris I don't remember many films or stories before that where the hero was essentially going around terrorizing people.
Lee Yeah, maybe.
Adam Revenge, it's a revenge thing, though.
Chris Yeah, but I don't remember that being,
Chris because he was portrayed as, you know, you really liked him.
Chris And obviously felt for him.
Unknown It was, it was fair what he was doing, you know, righteous, even though he was killing people.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Yeah, but it's not killing anyone who'd be missed.
Unknown No, exactly, a bit like a soft version of Mandy.
Lee Yeah.
Lee Yeah, they they want him out of the, they want him out of the flat 'cause they're developing it.
Lee And him and his girlfriend lived there and he's a musician.
Lee So basically they send the gang around and they kill the pair of them.
Chris Oh, yeah.
Lee But then for whatever reason, he then comes back to life and then takes revenge on everybody in the massive gang 'cause of course there has to be enough people to keep it going for two hours.
Unknown It's not that long.
Unknown But yeah, I thought it was, you know, it's very dark.
Unknown Very stylized.
Unknown But again, I think that still works now because, you know, it's not dated in any way.
Unknown Um,
Unknown Yeah, I mean, you know, performances are all pretty good.
Unknown Like, yeah, Lee's got.
Adam There's good, there's some great people in it.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And Brandon Lee, it's definitely one of the, I mean, obviously it's tragic that he died.
Adam But it's also the thing that it's like, you know that this would have been the launchpad for a like,
Adam 10-year, like supersonic career.
Lee Yeah.
Unknown And I think that's almost why it makes it, you know, poignant watching it because you are in the back of your mind.
Unknown You are thinking actually his death scene in the film, he actually did die shooting it.
Lee Yeah.
Chris He did.
Lee I.
Unknown Yeah.
Chris He actually died shooting.
Unknown Yeah, I've just been checking the, uh, info.
Unknown Yeah, so there was a real bullet lodged in the should have been a blanks in the gun.
Adam No.
Adam It wasn't even that, it was a fragment of metal.
Unknown Well, I don't know. I thought that at the time, but that's why I just looked it up now and it does say bullet.
Unknown So that's what made me.
Adam No, it was.
Adam It was a fragment of, because that's the thing.
Adam Is even, 'cause obviously a blank discharges exactly the same.
Adam It just doesn't have a projectile with it.
Lee Yeah.
Adam So because and what you're meant to do is you're meant to clean, obviously clean the guns out.
Adam And ensure that, from what I gather, it was quite a party sort of, uh, set, shall we say.
Unknown Hmm.
Adam And I think precautions were a bit lax and basically, yeah, this metal fragment, piece of casing had ended up in lodged in the gun.
Adam So they fire the blank and essentially shot him.
Lee Yeah.
Lee It goes to show you that even a tiny fragment, not even a full, like, not even a full load from the end.
Lee A tiny fragment.
Lee is enough to kill you if it hits the wrong bits.
Unknown Hits the wrong bits.
Lee Adam's like a full load now.
Lee Well, off.
Unknown So, Claire's laughing.
Unknown She was.
Chris So, don't play with guns, kids.
Unknown No, not even with blanks.
Lee Um, so, so just to cut in on that very quickly.
Lee I didn't think it aged well at all.
Unknown You didn't like it.
Chris So you,
Lee I didn't think.
Chris How much did you like it when you first watched it?
Lee I liked it enough that I saw it a few times.
Lee And I watched the, the, um, the sequel.
Chris Okay.
Unknown Didn't remember the sequel.
Lee No.
Lee I'll tell you what I know about the sequel, it's got death times on it.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Iggy Pop's one of the villains.
Lee Oh, okay.
Adam And Jerry Sadowitz as well.
Lee I vaguely remember something.
Chris All right.
Lee Um.
Chris So you did quite like the first.
Chris Yeah, all right.
Chris But so what's gone wrong for you?
Lee Yeah, I just, it just felt so, it felt like a film you'd love as a teenager.
Lee So I'm not, I look back at it and go, you're an fucking idiot for ever liking this.
Lee Like when you watch some stuff you like.
Chris Made sense at the time.
Lee Do that, I was like, yeah.
Lee I can see why teenage me thought this.
Chris So you feel like you've,
Chris you've matured.
Chris And Jennifer's stuck in the past.
Unknown I think he likes enough worse films now that I'm not sure that's the way I'll go.
Adam See, see, I think 'cause Claire was saying that she'd never seen it.
Adam 'Cause we were,
Adam I don't know why.
Unknown You'll have to watch it then.
Adam Uh,
Adam But the trouble is is I'm sort of, I'm in, I'm in both camps, essentially.
Adam I know I will fucking enjoy it and still think it's brilliant.
Adam But I don't know someone coming to it cold.
Unknown Yeah.
Adam From from a different time.
Unknown It will stand up, age from will it.
Unknown It's, it is.
Unknown I mean, it is, it's really violent.
Unknown You know, it's like a lot of recent films, really.
Unknown It's got the violence, it's got the darkness, you know, I mean, I don't think there's anything in it that is dated.
Lee Yeah.
Unknown Apart from a skateboard and there's no mobile phones, you know.
Adam I think the guy who, um, the guy who directed it also did Dark City.
Unknown Okay, yeah.
Adam And again, it's that same aesthetic where it's like this is a bit sort of timeless.
Chris Yeah.
Adam Yeah, you know, you're not quite, I mean, obviously Dark City, it's a different kettle of fish anyway.
Adam But it's that thing again where it's not quite a specific time.
Chris There was the mystery, wasn't it, where you, you didn't know, yeah, I certainly remember that being really good.
Adam Dark City is brilliant.
Adam You I think it's only the director's cut that's available these days.
Adam And it is good.
Adam It's not like, you know, there it is definitely worth.
Adam That is, if you've having watched The Crow, go and watch that I, I would recommend.
Adam Because, yeah, you'll, A, you'll see it and also, B, you'll go, actually Dark City is a fucking good film, isn't it?
Adam And Richard O'Brien's in it playing a villain.
Chris Oh, right.
Unknown Yeah.
Unknown Adam, you only had to start with that and I'd go, yeah.
Adam But that's the, that's what really annoys me about that film is it, not Richard O'Brien doesn't annoy me, but what annoys me about it is that it's like it's the one thing where Richard O'Brien is specifically playing exactly the role that I think Richard O'Brien should have played in hundreds of films.
Adam Episodes of Doctor Who, he should have been a guest on, on no, fucking Deep Space Nine or something like that.
Unknown Sort of a villain, did he play that?
Adam Yeah, he should just be,
Adam he's very good at it.
Unknown He is.
Unknown Nice.
Unknown Anyway, back to Bly Manor, because, um, so the guy who did a dark song got to do two of the episodes.
Adam Oh.
Adam Cool.
Chris Did Lee like those?
Lee Uh, it was one of them, unfortunately, was my least favorite episode.
Chris Ah.
Lee It's to not fair, he's directing it, like he's given a script, you know.
Unknown I think he could do what he liked, though, reading the interview with him. I think he had reasonably free reign.
Unknown But, um, but I mean, I he did a lot of time hopping, so it was a bit confusing, but then once you got the hang of it, it was clever. You know, it was interesting, which is what Shirley TV kind of needs to be a little bit.
Unknown But, um, but yeah, it was good.
Adam They dressed in the narrative up a bit.
Adam 'Cause obviously,
Unknown Yeah, exactly, the novel.
Adam The film they're quite linear.
Unknown Yeah, no, it was, it, you know, thinking about the old, um, what was it, the Turning of the, Turning of the Screw, you know, that was a bit boring, to be honest, when we watched that.
Lee Turning of the screw.
Unknown You know, I like the idea of it, but it was just.
Lee You can't tell Chris that we're covering that in the next episode.
Unknown Oh, are you?
Unknown Okay.
Unknown But whereas this, you know, it's an updated version, I found it interesting.
Unknown You know, younger generations will find it interesting.
Unknown You know, so it keeps the horror or the story, which is the good part, doesn't it, but it livens it up.
Unknown But, um, kind of fascinating.
Unknown That apparently none of the set is real.
Lee When you walk like it it looks like a gorgeous old house.
Unknown Um, but apparently, no, it's.
Chris That's all CG.
Lee Must be.
Lee It's all.
Unknown Oh, you wouldn't think it at all.
Lee No.
Unknown There was only 'cause I was reading the interview with, um, you know, this guy who'd done some of the episodes.
Unknown Um, and we wondered, there's a lake in it, which, so.
Lee Mm, come.
Chris Why did they do that? Was there a particular reason, just,
Unknown I think it's cheaper.
Chris Or something to do with lockdown.
Unknown Uh, no, no, this was all done before lockdown, he said.
Chris Right, okay.
Unknown Um, and also he said that, yeah, so the lake in it, he said, you know, it was cheaper and easier, they built a whole lake than to just go and find one and shoot there.
Adam It's probably you've got more control over it.
Lee Mm.
Adam It's like a lot of it's like with, um, Sleepy Hollow.
Adam Obviously, when we covered that.
Adam Not only did they, that was like the biggest set in, in the world at the time.
Adam They built the, the village that's in it, they built and houses and houses in it that needed to have an interior did.
Unknown Oh.
Adam Wow.
Adam And, um, the forest was filmed in the studio.
Unknown So that was cheaper than finding a village that would fit the.
Adam Yeah, but it also gives you a lot more control as well because obviously if you've got like a lake, you'd have to have proper divers in there and the safety team, whereas there's a lot more controlled.
Adam Yeah.
Adam Something that you've manufactured so you know exactly where everything is and you know.
Unknown We could see, you could see the mist coming off it all the time.
Unknown And we were talking about it and I was like, I bet it's warm.
Unknown I bet they've made it so it's hot.
Unknown And then I was reading this interview afterwards and exactly that.
Adam Yeah.
Unknown They've made it warm so when they're doing the scenes in it, the actors, it's really cold outside.
Unknown But actually to get in the lake is really quite pleasant.
Unknown Because otherwise, you, as you say, you need divers.
Unknown You need safety equipment, you'd presumably only need them in short time because then it'd be dangerous.
Unknown They'd have to get out.
Adam Yeah, you'd have they'd have to be wearing like life jacket.
Adam Not like probably wet suits and things like that underneath the costume.
Unknown Yeah.
Unknown So anyway, there we go.
Lee Yeah, so the only thing I didn't like about it was that I mean the cast in it was fantastic.
Lee It's the same as the cast from, uh, Haunting of Hill House, um, to some degree.
Lee Uh, but the, the thing I didn't like about it, and again, it, so it turns out they're all, Oh, don't give it away.
Lee I'm not gonna. So although it's Turn of the Screw, it's also incorporated other stories by that same author.
Lee Um,
Lee Henry James.
Adam Oh, yeah.
Lee Yes.
Lee Um, but what it felt like to me was a lot of kind of, right, what's creepy? Uh, people with no faces.
Lee Right, let's put that.
Lee What, let's have an a time hop episode.
Lee That's the cool thing.
Lee Let's everyone.
Unknown They just took the best bits and put it together.
Lee It just felt like, and again, because of the different directors, it felt tonally different each time.
Unknown I think you can do that with a series, a film would jump too much.
Unknown But I think we take each episode almost individually.
Lee I don't know, yeah, it just it wasn't great.
Lee But it had some really good things about it.
Lee Um,
Lee And the last episode was an absolute nightmare. So the eighth episode was excellent.
Unknown So skip the last episode.
Lee The very last episode, you need to watch the first 10 minutes, wraps up the story, and then the 50 minutes after is what happened to the characters after all the interesting shit that stopped happening.
Unknown You didn't need it.
Lee So it was just 45 minutes of people's boring lives after they've been involved in a haunted house. It was absolute dog shit.
Lee I was just,
Adam I'll be honest, I'll be honest, that that's that's definitely heads of the you can fuck that's guy high pile.
Chris That's too short.
Lee Yeah, you're not missing anything.
Lee Um, on the other hand, though, so the other things that I watched.
Lee Um, I, I, I, firstly I watched Slaughterhouse Rules again.
Lee Um, I thought it can't have been as bad as I thought it was the first time, I'm gonna go back and rewatch it.
Lee Um, it was that bad and I don't know how.
Lee It was such a shame.
Lee It it, it should have been great and the trailer was good.
Lee Um,
Lee But yeah, it was, it was just awful.
Lee I don't know.
Lee I don't know how that happened.
Lee Um,
Lee But it was all right 'cause I made it all right again by watching so on demand this week, uh, Wolf of Snow Hollow has just come out.
Adam Is that the follow-up to Wolf of Wall Street?
Lee No.
Lee Uh, I've not had this much fun watching a film in a really long time.
Lee Um,
Lee So much so, it's only an hour and 25 minutes long, I watched the first hour of it without Jennifer, decided she needed to see it, called her in, and started the whole thing again from scratch.
Unknown Wow.
Lee It's, it's absolutely.
Lee It's a really good film.
Unknown Give it a trip.
Unknown I think that.
Lee Give it a trip.
Lee That's what I.
Unknown It doesn't need a big budget.
Lee No.
Unknown But it didn't seem low budget either.
Lee It's beautifully shot, it's all, it's all shot out in the mountains.
Lee And it looks incredible.
Lee Um, the funny bits are fully like proper laugh out loud hilarious.
Lee Um,
Lee The gory is good.
Lee Um,
Lee Yeah.
Lee And it's got great twists and turns.
Lee And it's everything about it was brilliant.
Lee And it just, I guess I, it came out last week and I checked it on IMDb and it rocketed up to like 6.5 or something, which I know isn't super high, but, um, the amount of people that have watched it, I'm guessing.
Lee Um,
Lee But yeah.
Lee So I thought, you know what, for what it cost to video it on demand, I thought I'll give that a go.
Lee Um,
Lee Yeah, and just had so much fun.
Lee I'm definitely gonna buy it on Blu-ray, I think, because it is a film I will go back and rewatch over and over again.
Lee Because it's just hilar.
Lee Like I said, I watched it almost to the end and then just rewound it and started the entire thing again.
Lee Because I enjoyed it so much.
Unknown You didn't rewind it, honey, 'cause that's videos.
Lee It's because it's not fucking 80s anymore.
Lee But.
Lee But yeah.
Lee So watch, uh, Wolf of Snow Hollow.
Lee It's absolutely amazing.
Adam Oh.
Adam Wow.
Adam Yeah.
Adam Um, speaking, speaking of, um,
Lee Sorry.
Adam Uh, just before we crack into the main feature.
Adam Uh, speaking of Nick Frost and Simon Pegg, because that's Slaughterhouse Rules, isn't it?
Lee Yes, yeah.
Adam Um, there, the new show that, uh, they're in has just, uh, has started.
Adam I think it's, I think it's on Prime, actually.
Lee Oh.
Adam Is it?
Lee I thought it came out on Halloween.
Adam No, I think I, I think it came out yesterday, possibly.
Lee Oh, excellent.
Adam When we're recording this, um, I've not had a chance.
Adam But I just, I assume you've not either, then.
Lee I only just found out it was a series.
Lee I watched the trailer and was convinced it was a movie. It was only when I checked it on IMDb to see when it came out.
Lee Yeah, I actually found out that it isn't, it's, it's a, it's a series.
Lee So, so that's good 'cause that means we'll get more of it, effectively.
Lee Um,
Lee But yeah, I didn't realize.
Adam Yeah.
Adam No, I think it's, um, I'm definitely, I mean, I'm definitely gonna give it a whirl.
Lee Oh, they are.
Adam Yeah.
Adam From from what I gather from the trailer, I don't think, I don't know if Simon Pegg's gonna be,
Adam I don't think they're in it together a lot.
Lee No.
Adam So but I think, I mean Nick Frost is fucking great anyway.
Adam So, is this Truth Seekers?
Chris Is this Truth Seekers?
Adam That's the one.
Chris Mm.
Chris It says here.
Chris It's coming 30th of October.
Adam I'm a fucking idiot, then.
Lee No.
Adam So.
Lee I say that's the reason I realized it was a series.
Lee It's 'cause I checked it just a couple of days ago and saw that it was a series. Yeah, and I thought it said, but again, I know they sometimes move these dates and things, so.
Adam No.
Adam They I'm, I'm probably very wrong.
Lee Yeah.
Adam So.
Adam Good thing I.
Chris Ghost hunting YouTube channel.
Adam Hey.
Chris It says here, they embark upon creating a ghost hunting YouTube channel.
Lee It's worth watching the trailer. It looks like it's good.
Adam It does.
Lee It does.
Lee As Adam said, it looks like it's more Nick Frost and Simon Pegg, perhaps.
Chris Yeah, yeah.
Adam But these days that's no bad thing.
Unknown Yeah.
Adam So.
Adam Well.
Adam Yeah.
Adam I'd imagine he's, I'd imagine he's watched it.
Adam And it's just.
Adam And it's just glazed over like every other fucking thing.
Adam But, um, but yeah.
Adam And so it's weird because George Romero kind of recreates zombies.
Adam And what they are now and he kind of recreates horror because it becomes much more realistic.
Adam And it's.
Adam Yeah.
Adam We just thought.
Adam Yeah.
Adam And so I think, I think that's also the thing.
Adam Like you say.
Adam You hadn't watched this.
Adam And I haven't watched a lot of zombie stuff because I was, I was in the same thing with yourself.
Adam Whereas it's like, it's quite, you know, you could read Room Mogue or Dark Side magazine.
Adam And it would be sort of like, right, here's the, here's the horror releases for this month.
Adam And it's like, two that look interesting and 16 zombie films that I am never gonna fucking bother with.
Adam And it's funny 'cause it's funny because they they'd worked so well for, for, for comedy horror.
Adam I mean, look at Sean of the Dead, look at Fiido.
Adam Uh, yeah, um, Dead Set.
Adam Yeah, I mean, I, I mean even, even, I mean, as they go on, I mean, certainly Dawn of the Dead is genuinely as funny.
Adam That does have funny stuff in there.
Adam Yeah.
Adam Let's try that.
Adam I mean, I think in Sean of the Dead there is a bit where.
Adam You know at the end.
Adam When it's sort of it's lifted up and there's sort of coming out of.
Adam They're coming out of lockdown.
Adam There's zombie lockdown.
Adam At the end of Sean of the Dead.
Adam And there's a bit where they they they and a news reporter saying, um, uh, scientists initial theories about the returning of.
Adam The uh the cause being the return of a satellite have been proved to be bollocks, then they cut bollocks out.
Adam Um, so and in later ones like in,
Adam what is it in, uh, Living Dead at the Manchester Mall.
Adam It's a machine, it's a, an agricultural machine for, uh, getting rid of pests that sets them off.
Adam In and then in other ones it's, uh,
Adam I think like Zombie Flesh Eaters goes back and does it as sort of, uh,
Adam almost like takes it back into voodoo.
Adam And but again, they like later on in the films they like George Romero just never mentions that ever again.
Adam Because it's.
Adam No, I think that's probably shit.
Adam I suppose at the time,
Adam you know, radiation was a newer thing.
Adam You got the nuclear, well, it's that classic thing of like in the 50s where you have all the giant ant pictures.
Adam Like giant ant movies and like them and sort of it's, yeah, again it's that thing of we don't know what this does.
Adam It could do anything.
Adam Much in the same way as it it creates hundreds of superheroes rather than just making their hair fall out and they're thick.
Adam But, um,
Adam but yeah.
Adam And so it's weird because George Romero kind of recreates zombies and what they are now.
Adam And he kind of recreates horror because it becomes much more realistic.
Adam And it's I don't know if it's the.
Adam I think it's also the weird thing of like you say it's an older film.
Adam You turn it on, it's black and white.
Adam It starts with that lot.
Adam Because all the music in it is library music because obviously they didn't have much money.
Adam Um.
Adam But it's.
Adam Oh, it's wonderfully used.
Adam But it's a, it's very, there's some lovely dissonant stuff but that opening where it's just, that's, you know, that's obvious horror movie music.
Adam And so I think you're kind of it lulls you into that sense of it's like, oh well this is an older film.
Adam And it's like, oh no, this is like, it's like when you watch Psycho.
Adam You get that similar sort of thing of it's like, oh no, this is actually like, this is, this is modern.
Adam Yeah.
Adam You know.
Adam I don't know if I don't know if it's the, I think it's also the weird thing of like you say it's an older film.
Adam You turn it on, it's black and white.
Adam It starts with that lot.
Adam Because all the music in it is library music.
Adam Because obviously they didn't have much money.
Adam Um.
Adam But it's.
Adam Oh, it's wonderfully used.
Adam But it's a, it's very, there's some lovely dissonant stuff but that opening where it's just, that's, you know, that's obvious horror movie music.
Adam And so I think you're kind of it lulls you into that sense of it's like, oh well this is an older film.
Adam And it's like, oh no, this is like, it's like when you watch Psycho.
Adam You get that similar sort of thing of it's like, oh no, this is actually like, this is, this is modern.
Adam Yeah.
Adam You know.
Adam I mean, I know George Romero said later on or like in later life, he was like, maybe we should have altered the script in that sense.
Adam But I think they almost like, they almost like the opposite where they were like,
Adam Our film's quite pissed off with the world.
Adam And you know, I think we might be, I think we might be in sort of, uh, I think we might be in the same, uh, mind frame that a lot of people will be in at the moment.
Adam And, and so,
Adam so obviously.
Adam Like I say, that parallels Halloween, unfortunately, they didn't make the same good deals that Deborah Hill and John Carpenter did.
Adam Um, the farmhouse, um, was, uh, the owner of it was gonna demolish it.
Adam So.
Adam He just let them use it.
Adam And apparently when he said to George Romero that they were gonna demolish it.
Adam Uh George Romero just went, well, you've come to the right people then.
Adam And, um, so they could just do what they wanted with it. And actually, what they had to do is they had to go in and again a bit like Halloween.
Adam They had to go in and clean it up to make it look like someone lived there.
Adam Yeah.
Adam Yeah.
Adam Because it was just like, an old.
Adam Like on this farmer's property.
Adam And, um, which kind of mirrors what happened with Evil Dead where they found the, uh, they had the cabin and it was like kind of you can do as you will with it and everything.
Adam And also like a bit like Evil Dead, they shot everything in the farmhouse but the basement was, uh, the sound studios in the basement.
Adam Oh, really?
Adam Yeah.
Adam Because the building itself didn't have a basement, so like the farmhouse itself didn't have a basement.
Adam Which again,
Adam was like Evil Dead where they did have the cabin but they didn't have the.
Adam It just didn't have a, a basement at all.
Adam Yeah.
Adam And that kind of.
Adam Yeah.
Adam We're done.
Adam Sorry.
Adam George Romero.
Adam And the co-writer and the production designer.
Adam Lived in the farmhouse while they were filming.
Adam So they they never left the set.
Adam Wow.
Adam And and again, a lot of it was like him saying about.
Adam You know like George Romero saying about how much goodwill that they had.
Adam Like the police like the local police like sent a couple of cars down and their dogs.
Adam So they could get like those shots of like when they're going across the fields with the dogs and everything.
Adam And that was just like.
Adam And even the sound design, the like the sound design and everything else like that.
Adam They couldn't afford to get the sound design done.
Adam So John.
Adam Uh, John Russo, who was the co-writer.
Adam Um, challenged the, uh, challenged the sound production guy to a game of chess.
Adam And they got and won.
Adam And that's how they got the sound designer.
Adam He won the sound design in a game of chess.
Adam And it was like.
Adam You know, just so many, again it's that thing that seems to crop up where everyone really pulled together.
Adam Had a great time and, you know, everyone was just enjoying themselves.
Adam To to an extent within the bounds of the fact that you're on a low-budget shoot and there's no running water on the set and stuff like that.
Adam But.
Adam But basically, yeah, it's again that thing of everyone has a fun time on set so you make a really good bleak horror film.
Adam 'Cause it always seems to be it's the same thing that was all the best comedies.
Adam Everyone wanted to top themselves while they were making them and similarly all the best horror films everyone had a fucking ball.
Adam Yeah.
Adam Yeah.
Adam And I mean, of the cast, like I say, I mean, the majority was just.
Adam 28 members of the cast, this is the only film on IMDb.
Adam Yeah.
Adam Like this is their only acting role.
Adam And it was just like, you know, people they knew and friends and family.
Adam And it doesn't.
Adam It doesn't feel like that.
Adam Like sometimes we've super low budget indie stuff.
Adam It feels like like if you stuck a camera on us.
Adam And you you know.
Adam You didn't quite know what to say.
Adam But this film, everybody in it feels solid.
Adam There's nobody in it who's really like.
Adam No.
Adam I mean you.
Adam No, I know what you mean.
Adam All the you know, coppers, presuming the zombies.
Adam Just go at zombie.
Adam How hard can that be?
Adam No.
Adam No, I know what you mean.
Adam They all just kind of.
Adam No.
Adam No.
Adam And I mean of the cast, like I say, I mean, the majority were just.
Adam 28 members of the cast, this is the only film on IMDb.
Adam Yeah.
Adam Like this is their only acting role.
Adam And it was just like, you know, people they knew and friends and family.
Adam And it doesn't.
Adam It doesn't feel like that.
Adam Like sometimes we've super low budget indie stuff.
Adam It feels like like if you stuck a camera on us.
Adam And you you know.
Adam You didn't quite know what to say.
Adam But this film, everybody in it feels solid.
Adam There's nobody in it who's really like.
Adam No.
Adam No.
Adam No.
Adam No.
Adam I mean you.
Adam No, I know what you mean.
Adam All the you know, coppers, presuming the zombies.
Adam Just go at zombie.
Adam How hard can that be?
Adam No.
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Adam All the you know, coppers, presuming the zombies.
Adam Just go at zombie.
Adam How hard can that be?
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Adam Just go at zombie.
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