Now I am the Master
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It’s time to act like professional gravy tasters and take stock. For over 200 episodes, Chris has been exposed to all manner of horrors by Lee and Adam, and it now feels like high time that the Padawan has achieved the rank of master, and is granted a place on the council (because we know how it plays out if we don’t). A little look back over the span of Welcome To Horror up to the present; we hope this is a nice summary of Chris’s journey through horror. No homework needed, although it may be a weird place to start your own journey with the podcast, but everyone’s welcome so join us.
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UnknownGood evening and welcome to horror. I'm Lee.
ChrisI'm Chris.
AdamI'm Adam.
LeeHey, and we are here this evening as promised for something a bit different.
LeeFull disclosure, I would like to point out that despite the fact we discussed this as a possibility several months ago, I mentioned it at the end of the last episode. I said what we're doing next week. and where we cut the recording, they both went, "You fucking what?"
LeeBecause they'd both forgotten that we'd had the discussion and decided that it was possibly a wank idea.
LeeSo, if it turns out to be a shit episode, I take full responsibility.
LeeAnd the other two are completely passengers in the situation.
LeeSo,
AdamNo,
AdamI would like to
AdamI would like to
AdamI I would like to I I think we should venture it further than it's got to be Chris's fault.
AdamAs it's a Chris-centered episode.
AdamSo, you know, if he's unable to carry the weight that,
Adamyou know, is he going to be is he going to be George Harrison and give us While My Guitar Gently Weeps?
AdamOr is he going to be Ringo and give us a fucking Yellow Submarine?
AdamThomas the Tank Engine.
ChrisThat's right.
ChrisAs on the worst person I've ever heard interviewed ever.
ChrisThat's two evers.
ChrisThen I'll be amazed if we manage to publish this, but let's give it a go.
LeeYes, so the idea was obviously when the premise for the podcast when we started was to welcome Chris to horror and slowly introduce him into all the all the great things that horror has.
LeePeople have a very one-dimensional view on horror, we felt.
LeeAnd bringing somebody in and introducing them to, you know, to all the different subgenres, all the different decades, all the different flavors of horror, we thought it would be a fun experiment, really.
LeeAnd yeah, I
ChrisIt's mostly an excuse just to watch some films.
LeeYeah.
AdamAbsolutely.
LeeBut yeah, so I just thought it'd be interesting to sit down with Chris and find out how he feels now compared to how he did when we first ventured into this seven long years ago and 200 plus movies previously.
LeeSo Chris, how has this lived up to what you expected?
AdamThis is this is where he offers his letter of resignation.
ChrisLet me go away. I'm just going to go think about it for a bit.
ChrisYeah, so
Chrisas I mean essentially as you just said, like it's learning that there is a lot more to horror than you tend to see when you're mostly seeing I suppose adverts and trailers and the big hits.
ChrisAnd we've certainly seen that with some of the amazing independent films we've been seeing recently.
ChrisBut yeah, and the fact that it's surprising how how much can be ultimately part of the horror genre.
ChrisAnd how how it lends itself to certain types of stories that you could tell using a different genre, but there's something that adds say an extra edge to it that perhaps really makes it hit home a lot harder than it otherwise might.
AdamAbsolutely.
AdamI know I I think it's yeah, there is there is a lot that horror can be it's like there's there's two versions of horror.
AdamYou can have the thing that is obvious horror because it falls into a category like a monster or a demon or whatever like that.
AdamAnd then on the other side of it it's like, actually this is this is a this is a film about divorce but they've put ghosts in it, you know, or something.
ChrisBut but it really gets you in the state of mind that lets you fully appreciate, you know, the other side of what's going on.
LeeI think it's it's having that heightened tension when you add other elements in it it can really work.
LeeBut I think that was what we wanted to sort of show you when we went into it is everyone has this idea of horror as like The Exorcist and slashers and stuff.
LeeI don't I think people outside don't realize just how diverse and multi-layered horror is.
LeeAnd it's one of the things Adam and I always love, like, you've got The Exorcist at one end of it, and then at the other end of it, you've got Shaun of the Dead or something, which absolutely is a horror.
LeeBut it's got so much it's got so much great comedy and people who don't who don't watch horror because they hate it as a genre, as we've said so many times before, saw something too much, too young and just blanket, you know, cut it out.
LeeThey're missing out.
ChrisSaw and that was it.
LeeSo much.
LeeYeah.
LeeYeah, precisely.
AdamI am going to say at this point that this is something since since we covered Scream I'm growing I'm increasingly out of love with Scream, the film.
LeeOh really?
AdamAnd there's one of those elements is that it was like the sort of everyone was like, that's how a horror movie works and it's like, no, that's how a slasher film works.
AdamThere is a very fucking distinct difference.
AdamAnd and I think like you were saying, there's people you know, have an assumption that horror is one type of thing with one type of story that crosses all those beats.
AdamAnd yeah, that is the case, that can be the case, obviously.
AdamBut yeah, but scary movie because it was like, do you like scary movies? That was just like, oh, so do you like horror?
AdamBut it wasn't quite sort of, you know, because it's a slasher film.
AdamAnd they tell you the trucks in the slasher film.
AdamBut, you know, much in the same way that I don't know, possession does not have that is not filled with horror tropes.
LeeNo, that is just a head fuck from minute one onwards.
AdamMaybe maybe that's what it is, it's just my resentment of people that don't think it's that ordinary.
AdamIt's not just some big bugger with a knife, you know, sometimes it's cosmic things coming out of your fucking well and making Al Pacca evil.
AdamOr, you know, various other things.
ChrisThat was the Color Out of Space.
AdamYes.
AdamWeirdly enough, I'm quoting I've quoted I'm talking about two films that we've never covered.
AdamSo there we go.
ChrisYeah, I did I did I did think, hold on. Did I miss one here?
AdamNo, no.
LeeNo, but I think it's it's funny to see how far you've come on, Chris.
LeeLike, you know, since we started, like, you've you've really embraced it.
LeeBecause this was my kind of my concern when we first started recording was that you might get a couple in and go, yeah, this is all just shit.
LeeAnd it wouldn't work at all.
AdamNot for me.
AdamNot for me.
AdamNot for me this horror, tried it.
AdamThree strikes out.
LeeYeah, and I love how much you embraced it and went off and and did your own, you know, you enjoyed it to the point where you came back and went, oh yeah, as well as the film we're covering next, I also watched this, this and that.
LeeYou know, and going and watching the Eli Roth documentaries and stuff to kind of fill in, you know, the gaps of the bits that we hadn't yet covered.
LeeSo yeah, it was it was heartwarming to see that it it definitely did something for you.
ChrisYeah, and hopefully some listeners too.
ChrisWho arguably probably had seen more films than me.
ChrisBut you know, I think we've still probably shown a few that they may not have.
AdamWell, I I hope that there is a thing where people will try stuff out because especially when it's we start an episode going, look, just going fucking watch it, please don't worry, just go and watch it and then come back and listen to what we thought about it.
AdamBut there are certain ones where it's really, you know, I I hope that it builds a trust.
LeeWell, I mean, we've had we've had people bring stuff to us that we hadn't seen before, you know, like listeners coming to us saying, oh, you like Wild Zero, would never have seen Wild Zero if a listener hadn't brought it to us and I was like, holy shit, I've never heard of this.
LeeIt's awesome.
LeeLike, and it yeah, it it's it is good that despite the fact you feel you have a very a very balanced view of of the genre and you kind of you know what's going on.
LeeIt's always amazing when someone says, but have you ever seen this and I've never even heard of it.
LeeAnd you go and watch it and it's absolutely epic.
LeeYou know, there's so much stuff that we don't even know about that's just out there, it's such a yeah, such a diverse and exciting genre.
AdamSo we keep and we're keeping the title because I know people always joke about it that it'd be Chris has been well and truly welcome to horror.
AdamBut I'm now thinking that yeah, it could be we're welcoming the listeners to horror and indeed ourselves.
AdamBecause because I've watched I've definitely watched stuff because of the podcast in the in the sense of I'd have probably never got around to that film or I would have not gone.
AdamDo you know what I mean?
AdamAnd
ChrisThere's probably still a few of those left.
AdamOh, there's there's loads.
AdamI've still got I've still got a list, we'll have to what we'll do is as as we go, we'll jot down what any that crop up that we're like, oh, we haven't shown you that, we need to show you that, so, you know.
AdamBut
ChrisSo, so I I was going to say I've jotted down a few
ChrisI I've flicked back through to see everything we've watched and it's pretty amazing, really.
ChrisYeah, and so I've categorized them under some headings that I thought might be interesting to perhaps have a little chat about.
LeeYeah, cool.
AdamYeah, go for it, man.
ChrisSo, all right, so I've put some of my favorites, I've got The Witch, Split, The Thing, Trick 'r Treat, Cabin in the Woods, The Perfect Host.
ChrisAnd I sort of notice, you know, that
AdamKing Hell, mate.
LeeThat is one hell of a list, man.
ChrisYeah.
AdamThat is that is executive connoisseur.
ChrisWell, yeah, but but it is funny, right, because, you know, when you're doing this, you think, I could add that, I could add that, I definitely could add that.
ChrisBut it's like then I'm just going to end up with loads, but it's like just trying to grab at the ones where they just stand out to me for, you know, for slightly different reasons.
ChrisYeah, and and so yeah, and and certainly most of these, obviously I'd never seen, so it's like it's great.
ChrisAnd they are arguably now some of my favorite films, you know, not just horror.
AdamOh, that's brilliant.
ChrisAnd then sort of particularly recently, although it turned out we'd watched a few before, I've got some mad independent ones that stood out: Class of Nuke 'Em High,
ChrisDude Bro Party Massacre III, ThanksKilling.
ChrisBecause, you know, yeah, it's like but again, there's there's a huge list of amazing independent films that I'm sure we're going to carry on watching.
ChrisYeah, I had a few classics that I always planned to watch.
ChrisI thought, yeah, one day I'll get to these, so I had Seven, which I did
ChrisI did watch, but it turns out I hadn't seen it all, because there's tons that I hadn't seen.
ChrisElvira.
LeeOh, surprisingly.
ChrisElvira.
AdamElvira.
ChrisElvira, Elvira.
ChrisOkay.
Chris
ChrisJaws, which I had seen, but was surprised at how good it was when we rewatched it.
ChrisSo I sort of added that I must have clearly forgotten so much of what was in there.
AdamJaws is such a weird film because until you do that, you can watch Jaws loads and just enjoy it and it sort of fades into the background or gets familiar.
ChrisBecause you remember it's like it's just it's a big film, okay, it was probably good, but it's not that good, you know, but then rewatching it was like, okay, no, totally forgot so much of those details.
LeeIt's exactly the same as Close Encounters of the Third Kind for me, it's one of those that you always think, oh, it's an absolute timeless classic, but you don't sit down and watch it very often, and then when you do, you go, oh fuck, yeah, no, it totally deserves all the love it gets because it's absolutely groundbreaking.
ChrisThat is interesting.
ChrisBecause I've never seen that.
LeeWhat?
LeeYou never seen Close Encounters of the Third Kind?
ChrisNo.
AdamThat does surprise me, Chris, because I know you're a sci-fi man and
ChrisBut it always seemed like one of those sci-fi films that was not worth watching.
ChrisLike because it was just too big.
ChrisAnd I was like, you know,
LeeI have owned that film on
Leein multiple versions on every format.
LeeSo I had it on VHS like the original, then I bought the director's cut, and then I bought the special edition, then it came out on DVD and I had to buy all three versions on DVD, then I bought a Blu-ray player and I had to buy all Blu-ray.
LeeI thought I've spent
Leehundreds of pounds only that movie over my lifetime.
ChrisWow.
AdamYou'll have to have to fat movie, 26 years of Dr. Who.
AdamWho.
AdamThose fuckers are rich, man.
ChrisBut but it is funny because I've actually heard the sound that the aliens make in some music tracks.
ChrisBecause they use the sound.
AdamAll right.
ChrisSo I know that, but yet I have no idea how that fits into the film.
ChrisSo yeah, I will get to that one day.
Chris
AdamHorror horror adjacent, but I have recorded
AdamNo, I was going to say horror adjacent and that I have recorded more on throughout of space.
AdamOff the TV, which you just reminded me of because there's a bit where they take the piss out of the
ChrisAll right.
AdamBut yeah.
AdamAnyway, sorry.
ChrisThe Exorcist, which Lee you mentioned obviously as being the one lots of people would look at and say, oh yeah, that's what horror is.
ChrisAnd that is true, but
Chrisit is still it does capture something that's a bit different to quite a lot of other horror films.
ChrisAnd there is still a lot more in there that happens than the obvious, you know, head turn and scaring and and some of the looks.
AdamI think that is that thing the thing we said at the time where it was like, that's just so embedded in pop culture that people think they've seen it.
AdamIt's like people speak of Bram Stoker's Dracula but no, you've just seen three different Dracula films.
LeeYeah, absolutely.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisRing as well, again, I'd heard of it so much, you know, it was massive at one point, but I planned to watch it one day.
Chrisand Nosferatu because
Chrisagain, it's an iconic look and I thought, yep, definitely one day I'll watch it, whether it's hard to know, isn't it, would you get around to doing it because there's a lot of things you can watch, you know.
LeeYeah.
LeeOr 100 years old and silent.
ChrisWell, right, yeah.
ChrisAnd you might think, I definitely want to, but
LeeYeah.
ChrisYeah, would you choose it?
LeeYeah.
ChrisYeah, to know that it's definitely worth doing.
ChrisOkay, and I've got a few films that I'll probably never would have watched, but I'm glad I did.
ChrisTokyo Gore Police.
ChrisPsycho Goreman.
ChrisPumpkinhead.
LeeI've seen it.
ChrisAgain, because that was that was one where it's like, yeah, I mean it's it's funny, they just almost go in in the other category really, but it's like you see it and it's like, okay, yeah, that that looks kind of interesting, but yeah, you just don't know if you definitely would.
ChrisBut one that was really big that did surprise me, Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
ChrisSo in my head, I thought I'd never want to watch that, I just like, I have no interest.
ChrisThe title just says to me, I couldn't care less, right, that is not going to have anything of any interest to me at all.
ChrisAnd yeah, turns out it's very different to what I was expecting and absolutely definitely should have watched it.
ChrisSo, yeah.
ChrisAnd I mean there are more I could add to these lists, definitely.
ChrisI got a few that I would want to watch again, that just stand out as, you know, definitely.
ChrisSo I got John Dies at the End because for some reason, I really cannot remember what happens in that at all.
ChrisAnd the title is just like
AdamIt is a difficult one because that is quite a narratively fucked film.
LeeI've seen it I couldn't tell you what happens in it.
ChrisI remember it just being quite quite weird, but I I still want to remember why does he die at the end now, because I I just can't quite remember those details.
ChrisBut, you know.
ChrisThe Burbs.
LeeYes.
ChrisWhich was another one that I always wanted to watch.
ChrisAnd again, I can't really remember what happens in it fully.
ChrisI remember it being pretty weird as well.
ChrisAnd I remember something about there was crackers with sardines on and that's that's what's stuck in my head is it's a weird film that has stuff like that in.
LeeSardines.
ChrisBut yeah, forgotten forgotten the details, really, and I know it's got Tom Hanks and but and I remember them in gardens and yeah, but just cannot remember exactly what happened.
ChrisI've got The Wolfman because I think
ChrisI might appreciate that more now that we've covered a lot more since because we watch that second, I think and so it was it was quite a a jump from The Woman in Black, which that was a great film.
AdamYeah, that was that was our second one.
ChrisYeah, and so I don't know that I was quite in the state of mind for watching an older film to fully appreciate it and not get caught up on some of the less interesting aspects.
LeeI think that was my fault because I love Wolfman so much.
ChrisRight, so you're like.
LeeI was like, oh let's do that straight away and it was like, yeah, probably too soon to take the way back to the night.
ChrisMight have been.
AdamI could see your thinking though, Lee, because it was like the first because I didn't realize when we watched The Woman in Black, it wasn't until we were watching it, I realized it was a Hammer film.
AdamSo it was like, right, we've got in quick with a Hammer film, but it's not the older Hammer, it's a much recent movie.
ChrisOh, that's weird, yeah, what?
AdamSo it's not going to have that thing of having to adjust, you know, it's like, right, this is a movie that came out in whatever it was the last five years at that point, or something like that.
ChrisYeah.
AdamAnd yeah, we, and then it was like, but you did Hammer and it's like, well, next thing do Universal.
LeeYeah.
AdamYeah.
AdamBut obviously Universal, that was sort of, yeah, so we went back.
LeeI think again, that's why I went for for Wolfman, I love Wolfman, it is one of my favorite universal, but I think it was because it was a more modern end.
LeeSo I was like, oh yeah, it's newer than Dracula and it's like,
Leeyeah, but not it's still still a very old film.
AdamIt's it's I mean, it's more it's certainly more dynamic than the Universal Dracula.
LeeIt's so much more.
LeeYeah.
AdamYeah, because that that is very much a play filmed.
LeeYeah.
ChrisYeah, okay.
ChrisYeah.
AdamAnd you couldn't really and you don't want to necessarily do because you want to do Bride of Frankenstein at some point.
AdamBut you don't want to bring that in second because that's when you've started to appreciate that you can have humor in horror.
AdamBecause if anything, Bride of Frankenstein can be described as witty.
LeeYeah.
LeeI'll give you.
AdamYou know what I mean, more than anything else.
AdamIt's not an outright comedy, but there's enough in it that it's just like this is actually, you know, weird comedy of these macab characters or something.
ChrisYeah.
AdamWe did have we did have funnily enough on that subject, we did have a question from from a listener, not one who listens to the podcast but someone who listens to us record the podcast.
ChrisA very special listener.
AdamYeah, so Clare has asked, do you think what what would you have picked what would you pick to be like the first episode now, Chris?
ChrisOoh.
ChrisThat is a good question.
Christhe first episode.
ChrisIt's going to be hard to to think other than The Woman in Black because that got set in stone as being the first one.
Chrisyeah, like it is very difficult to actually choose a perfect
ChrisI mean, like you could have got away, I think, with say doing something like Texas Chainsaw Massacre because that really would have shown me, yeah, there's probably going to be a lot of films that we're going to be watching that are very different than I think they're going to be.
ChrisAnd so that might have worked for peeking my interest and making me go, yeah, no, you know, clearly I need to have an open mind towards pretty much everything that we're going to cover.
Chris
AdamBut that's that said with Texas Chainsaw, I would say, that's a very extreme one to start with.
ChrisWell, it is, so this is where, no, absolutely, but but this where so this for me.
AdamYou don't get that, it's a real off put.
LeeShove your kid off a jetty to teach him to swim.
ChrisYeah, no, it is.
ChrisBut but it's it's not like I hadn't seen any horror film.
ChrisSo it's like.
AdamNo, of course.
AdamYeah.
ChrisSo so that's why depends whether it's personal for me, or if it was recommended for someone who hasn't seen anything.
ChrisIn which case then yeah, you definitely got to start a a little softer.
ChrisNot seven, probably.
AdamPoor now, bloody hell.
AdamYeah.
ChrisSo yeah, I mean I guess in that sense, you know, if it was for for someone who hadn't seen anything, then you probably would want to start with something that has a bit of comedy in.
ChrisBut yeah, I mean I'm tempted to say things like The Thing, I think that's that covers quite a lot of it's it's got the action that probably would appeal to lots of people, it's definitely got some comedic parts, it's definitely got some horror parts, like so it does encompass.
AdamYou get you definitely get the sci-fi fans on that one as well.
ChrisYeah.
AdamYeah.
ChrisSo it's sort of a broader appeal while still clearly having proper horror parts, so yeah, I mean I'd I'd probably suggest that then.
LeeGood call.
ChrisOr on my list, I was getting down to Society, I wouldn't recommend that.
AdamIt was very sorry, yeah.
AdamSo sorry, yeah, so so where where have we got to with your list, Chris?
AdamWhat's that?
AdamSo that was one.
ChrisWell, so that that was that was the that's the only one under the heading of someone I might never watch again.
AdamFair enough.
AdamOh, there we go there we go, we've only given you one one almost definite.
ChrisAnd and arguably.
ChrisI probably would watch it again, it's just I was like, yeah, that can go under there.
ChrisBecause in in my head, I just remember being really awful, but yeah, there's definitely some some morbid curiosity to it.
Chris
ChrisOh, I did I also included Big Trouble in Little China as some I would want to watch again.
ChrisAnd again, although that's not full horror, you know, it's it's got some horror elements.
Chrisbut it was a great film, so I'd quite like to watch that again.
LeeAgain, entirely my fault, it was my birthday and I was like, I know it's a very difficult one to squeeze into the horror genre, but any chance to talk about Big Trouble in Little China is always going to be grabbed, I'm afraid.
AdamBecause I think it's like episode six.
LeeIt's Big Trouble in Little China.
ChrisYeah.
AdamWe we'd only done Prince of Darkness for episode three as well.
AdamSo it was like a really but I'll be honest, I quite like looking back through it and seeing the fucking
Adameccentricity of how we sort of because you can see we've got to there's there's almost like bits where you can see in the pattern that we got to where it's like, well, we haven't done that yet and that's a classic, so we we we should be doing that by now.
AdamAnd but there's also sort of like, I mean,
Adamthere's I mean, ThanksKilling.
LeeYeah.
AdamI don't think that's going to be.
AdamI don't think that's going to be an immediate one within your first year of like of.
AdamBut equally, why should it not be because it is.
ChrisWell, yeah, that that was was that the first one to introduce
Chrisindependent or low budget, like.
LeeI think I think it was the first, yeah.
LeeYeah, it was like we I wanted to show you something really super low budget and I was like, it's so funny and it's so much like it's it's not horror, but.
LeeIt is, it's it's a killer animal, so it it falls into that.
ChrisDoes doesn't he wear someone's face?
LeeYeah.
AdamHe wears someone's face, he pretends to be the chief of police and.
ChrisThat's that's horror elements.
LeeAbsolutely that shit, it's great and it is it's that and that's what I loved about that and the same with Bro Dude Party Massacre.
LeeIt's it's got that like there is no way you would get that past the studio, that wouldn't get past the first, you wouldn't even get a pitch out of that, it's so mental.
LeeBut the fact that it's been made and it's so much fun, you like this is this is the beauty of independent cinema is that you can make a small you can get a small budget together yourself and nobody has to sign off on your mental ideas.
LeeBand Vampire as well, like obviously that's coming soon, Yeah, it is, it's that beauty of nobody is going to put millions behind this, but crowdfunding and stuff.
LeeYou can do it now because people like us will go, yeah, I'll give you 30 quid to make that, of course I will.
LeeWhy would you not?
AdamBut it's it's kind of also where you get those lovely things, again, a film that we did exceedingly early, Funny Man.
LeeOh yeah.
AdamWhich most horror fans haven't seen.
AdamBut.
ChrisI I did put that in my I want to watch again that was coming up last.
AdamI rewatched that with Clare fairly recently.
ChrisSo that was her first viewing.
LeeThen.
AdamThat was her first viewing of it, yeah, I don't think she was that impressed.
AdamI mean.
LeeYeah.
AdamIt was like, it had thingy from the selector in it, that was enough.
AdamSo, Paulie from the selector in it.
LeeWhat about that film, it's got such a fuzzy, lovely feeling about it and I don't.
LeeIt's a bit.
AdamBut again, that's that's just a bunch of like old like sort of dance record producers all decided to chuck their money together and make that over a series of weekends.
AdamAnd.
AdamYou know, and but weirdly enough, someone did sign off on that in their own way.
AdamSomeone did, you know.
AdamOr I bought a Vampire motorcycle.
LeeYes.
AdamSomeone signed off on that, admittedly.
AdamBecause it was like, oh, it's the stars of Boon.
AdamWhich, you know, isn't the sort of, I don't think we're going to see the Disney money on that, but, you know.
LeeYou know, you're giving that money and you're not going to see it again, that's the thing, you're like, I am going to pay thousands of pounds of my own money to see this film made.
LeeThat money is never going to come back to me, but it's going to be worth every penny to see what is made out of it.
LeeIf you've got the money, why the fuck not?
AdamIt's an excellent money laundering situation.
AdamYou know, I've I've got a big swadge of cash and I've got to lose it quick, you know, so.
AdamSo I'm I'm I'm assuming that there are some I don't know if it's any of the movies we've ever covered, but I'm always assuming that there's, you know, there's there's some dodgy backer in there and it was like I'll just shifted now.
AdamSo and it's like.
AdamI'll don't tell me you fucking made the thing, I thought you were going to piss this down the wall and just spunk it away.
AdamOh, no, I'm getting a return.
LeeYou were lying, you were just going to buy yourself a Delorean.
LeeI never genuinely thought.
LeeSorry, Chris.
LeeYes, so.
LeeHave you got another list?
ChrisThat that is that is everything I've put down, but like I say, I could have easily added double to all of them.
ChrisBut I wasn't sure exactly how long it we would spend.
LeeIt's great to see.
ChrisAnd I didn't know what else I'm going to do.
LeeIt is great to see how much you've enjoyed some of those films and how they've stuck with you.
LeeLike it's.
LeeAnd again, all the ones you've picked as well are so good.
LeeYes.
LeeYeah.
LeeAlso just a kind of in memoriam as they do in the Oscars, I thought this was probably a good time to bring up the the things that we have dropped since we started recording seven years ago.
Leeunsung heroes, we've not done in a while.
ChrisOh yeah.
AdamWhich was which was mainly stump them because you wouldn't be able to recognize the poor bastards.
LeeExactly, and I think the thing is the point of the unsung heroes is they're in everything, so once you've mentioned a dozen of them, they're in everything we've covered since, so you can't really start singing them again.
ChrisYou're probably just.
AdamThat's that's very true.
AdamYeah.
LeeYeah.
LeeThey've been sung.
LeeAsk Welcome to Horror.
LeeBut we did have one of those this evening, so that was a a nice surprise as a bit.
AdamWe had a hashtag.
AdamIt's Welcome to Horror.
AdamIt's still a hashtag I use on Instagram where I could be using that extra one to be very witty in the tag in the tags.
LeeThat that would make me laugh every time I used to put those up, honestly.
AdamMy I think the best one was just included David on the Lost Boys one as a hashtag.
AdamNo, sorry, Michael, hashtag Michael.
AdamThat's right, Michael.
AdamYou know.
Leealso the Alexa synopsis, we stopped dropping in.
LeeDo you remember we used to do that?
AdamI think that was after you had a row with her.
AdamAbout how you say Charlottesville.
LeeI think it was, so I swiped her for for Google.
AdamShe just got the push.
LeeAnd the closing incantation, we dropped the closing incantation.
LeeBecause.
AdamWhat was the closing incantation?
ChrisI don't I don't remember that.
LeeI remember to we did The Devil Rides Out and at the end of it Christopher Lee did the incantation to put everything back to the way it had been before anything happened and you used to make me do it at the end of every episode for about 10 episodes I did that.
AdamOh, wow.
AdamWe should bring that back.
LeeWhich is fine, but it was when we were still meeting together in person, I think and I was drinking all the way through the film and then all the way through the podcast, and then you would ask me to do it and I'd done it of course that full night and every time I was like, I don't remember the fucking words.
LeeIf I remembered how it started, I was fine.
LeeBut every time it came out of the blue when you went, Lee is now going to reset everything spiritually and I go, oh fuck, I don't remember what I'm supposed to say.
AdamI'm not I'm just going to ask you now, do you remember those that incantation as we say as we're talking right now?
LeeNo.
LeeJennifer suggested earlier.
AdamI I won't I won't ask you at the end then because I was just I thought I'll be polite, you know.
LeeJennifer said, when I said to her, I've written down all the things that we've stopped over, she said, you should do them all this evening then as and I was like, well, no, we won't get a hashtag Welcome to Horror, because I didn't think we would.
LeeI was like, we can't do unsung heroes because we're not covering an episode, so there's nobody it's relevant to, we can't ask Alexa for a synopsis because we're not covering a film and I can't remember the incantation.
LeeSo none of those in anyway possible.
AdamAlthough I would like to I would like to declare this a we Chris is being a sung hero tonight.
AdamI think, you know.
AdamBecause it has been a fucking marvelous, marvelous journey.
LeeIt has.
AdamAnd I'm just really happy that someone's like saying they want to watch like to say to when someone wants to see like is like saying The Witch is one of probably one of their favorite films.
AdamAnd they also want to rewatch Funny Man and Dude Bro Party Massacre.
AdamI think we've we've we've done a good job, Lee.
AdamI feel a swell of pride there.
ChrisWe've succeeded at something.
LeeAnd it's been great.
LeeAnd we've met some really nice people doing this.
LeeWe obviously the the not for everyone guys who we've met along the way, and we obviously we've got to meet we discuss films with directors and writers, we've had people that when we got an email from the writer of The Host, like that blew my fucking mind, honestly.
AdamThat's that's the Zoom call horror.
AdamNot the one with the the big thing that comes out the water.
LeeYeah, yeah, yeah.
AdamJust just in case people are going back to find, did they?
LeeOh, yeah, no, sorry, not the not the host, the oh, fuck Christ, it was a perfect host.
AdamOh, the perfect host.
AdamSorry.
AdamYes, I thought you meant why am I thinking was that called host?
AdamThe one that was on Zoom?
LeeIt was called host.
LeeYeah.
AdamRight, yeah, because yeah, because I know we we did speak to someone who was involved with that.
AdamYeah, didn't we?
LeeWe did.
LeeBut yeah, the guy from a perfect host, equally that getting getting involved in the local horror scene as well.
LeeAdam and I as we mentioned previously, got to go and actually do some extras work on a horror film that is yet to be released.
AdamSupporting our team, please, darling.
Lee
LeeSo yeah, I mean, it's it's just been fantastic the people we've got to talk to and and have reached out to us.
LeeIt's been awesome, so yeah, it's been worth.
LeeIt's been worth all the long all the long hours of being forced to watch films and drink beer and chat about it for a while.
AdamYeah.
AdamWe said such a torturous, you know.
AdamIt's like Sisyphus pushing old fuck him.
AdamHim.
LeeYeah.
AdamChucking a rock up here.
AdamI can't believe it.
AdamSitting here in me pajamas like a pensioner.
ChrisThat was another one I could have mentioned, The Triangle.
LeeOh, yes.
LeeYes.
LeeWhat a great film.
LeeActually, when Chris and I were at FrightFest this year, the guy who directed Triangle is making a amazing looking TV show.
LeeAnd he was on stage talking about it with two of the main actors and it's a film set in the 80s about two young boys who are trying to get copies of the entire video nasty, all 80 whatever it is.
LeeSo they can get them together and sell them as a collection and make a shit ton of money.
Leeyeah, and they got It's a great idea but it looks like apparently some of the people have to get films from, they end up in supernatural events along the way.
LeeIt sounds so fucking good.
LeeAnd it's also set in Ireland.
ChrisThat sounds fun.
LeeYeah, so I'm all over that shit, I can't wait for that.
Lee
AdamYeah, we've got to do that.
AdamIn fact, but that also means that you've reminded me that you two have failed to deliver your report.
AdamAnd we will have to do that on maybe an upcoming we have been watching that you've been doing.
ChrisWell, so one of them turned out not to be horror.
LeeOn your excuse.
ChrisAnd and the other one was wasn't very good.
LeeQuestionable.
ChrisQuestionable.
LeeThat's basically.
ChrisThat's basically the report.
ChrisThere you go.
LeeOh, that's.
LeeOkay.
ChrisBrilliant, 50% no horror, 50% not worth watching.
AdamExcellent, excellent debrief, gentlemen.
AdamTreat yourselves to an extra gravy in the mess.
AdamDischarged.
LeeBut I'm not going to lie, I had a lovely day out with Chris and friend of the show, Dave.
Lee
ChrisIt was a great day, yeah.
LeeYeah, and yeah, we got to see the trailer and hear about these stuff.
LeeAnd the film that we saw that wasn't horror was really enjoyable.
ChrisOh, I really liked it.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah.
ChrisAnd it definitely had it definitely had like eerie parts, it was, you know, it was good, yeah.
LeeI can't remember what it was called now, off the top of my head.
LeeBut it's the so it was the same people who did come to Daddy.
LeeAnd it's the so apparently there's going to be a trilogy and I think it's bad.
ChrisOh, no, I'm thinking A F X Twin.
ChrisYou mean the one with.
LeeElijah Wood.
ChrisYes, yes, yeah.
LeeSo Elijah Wood is great in in this, but yeah, what was it called?
LeeIt was some thing book.
LeeBut yes.
ChrisBookworm, that's it.
LeeBookworm, yeah, well done.
LeeBut yeah, so that's going to be excellent when it comes out, I'm really looking forward to that.
Leelike the third part, I mean, sorry, because yeah, both those are fantastic films.
LeeBut it's funny, they said it's a trilogy because I was like, well, yeah, apart from apparently, I don't know what the is.
LeeNot obvious.
LeeYeah.
LeeRight, so, thank you ever so much for listening everybody.
LeeThank you very much, Chris, for putting up with this for the last seven years.
LeeAnd I'm glad that you've actually really enjoyed it and you haven't just had to sit here and listen to us waffle on about something you couldn't give a shit about, because that would have been very difficult.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisIt's been amazing, and I love having, you know, both your passionate views on all the different films.
ChrisNot always 100% in agreement, but always fascinating to hear.
ChrisAnd yeah, very often, yeah.
AdamA raw beating passion.
LeePositive or negative, I'm always passionate one way or the other.
LeeIt's very unusual that I'm just.
AdamAnd that's that's what he says on his dating profile.
AdamPositive or negative, always passion.
LeeRight, so,
Leethanks everyone for listening for the last seven years.
LeeAnd thanks very much for listening this evening and we'll see you in a fortnight's time for something else, goodnight.
ChrisGoodnight.
AdamGoodnight.
LeeI don't fucking remember.
LeeI don't know, I should have looked at my notes.
