Halloween we have been watching
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Welcome To Horror Presents: “The Return of We Have Been Watching”. Just in time for Halloween (or maybe just after, depending on the schedule) here’s a round up of all the spooky shit the WTH team have been shoving up their brains. This episode we discuss “Beetlejuice Beetlejuice” (2024); “Tucker & Dale Vs Evil” (2010); Abattoir Fermé’s “Hotel Poseidon”(2021); “Apartment 7A” (2024); “The Descent” (2005); “Eat Locals” (2017); “Salem’s Lot” (2024); and the podcast series “The Department of Midnight” and “Baron Sodor’s Theatre of the Doomed” (thanks to Joe Watson for that one). Along the way, Chris basically plans our schedule for the next 6 months, and we have the first (and probably last) Welcome To Horror Quiz! Been listening for a while? Pit your knowledge of the show against two of the hosts (who will be judged accordingly). No need to prep for this ep, but listeners beware, as here be (possible) spoilers and (definite) swearing. Join us!
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Lee Good evening and welcome to Halloween Horror. I'm Lee.
Chris I'm Chris.
Adam I'm Adam.
Lee This episode will be dropping just after Halloween, but with it being the spooky season, I'm pretty sure we've all been watching more than usual.
Lee So we're going to run through everything we've been watching, give you a quick catch-up.
Lee We've got a fantastic quiz to come as well that has been in the background.
Adam Don't sell it.
Lee yes, and Adam, I think you had something you wanted to mention before we kick off.
Adam Yes, well, happy Halloween everyone, even though it's probably belatedly, but just either take it as a belated Happy Halloween or a happy Halloween for next Halloween.
Adam Or just or just live every day as Halloween.
Adam That's what we.
Lee That's how I live.
Adam Because to be honest, that's the one thing I've found with Halloween is if anything, my viewing habits go the other way.
Chris Not a great idea.
Adam Well, I've been watching horror films.
Adam Yeah, it's almost like, I'll take a holiday. I'll just I'll just watch that real-life drama that I've been meaning to catch up on or something like that.
Adam but yes, I wanted to give a shout-out to long-time listener and friend of the podcast, Joe Watson.
Chris Woo woo.
Adam he recently come up, he funnily enough, he sort of messaged to say about a couple of bits that he's been enjoying.
Chris Oh, cool.
Adam And if you remember, he obviously, he was him who got us to watch Hell House LLC.
Lee That it was.
Adam So.
Adam Yeah.
Adam And so always always up for what he's and and obviously likes the show.
Adam So we know his taste is fucking impeccable.
Lee Absolutely.
Adam Yeah, so so he's been listening, there's a podcast called Baron Sobador's Theater of the Damned.
Adam Now, I've listened to a couple myself and it's an Australian production, I believe.
Adam And basically it's basically an hour-long horror story.
Adam That you get like an audio that sort of grey area between play and like full-cast drama and sort of, you know, with narration and stuff like that, and obviously.
Adam But yeah, and just generally really good little sort of stories.
Adam Remind reminded me in a way, I think they're going in that same sort of Twilight Zone vibe.
Chris Oh.
Adam It has that sort of or certainly the the first couple I listened to, they had that sort of feel to them and everything.
Adam So it sort of borders into sci-fi and things like that.
Adam But yeah, well worth.
Lee Definitely a link to that.
Lee I'll definitely watch it.
Lee That sounds.
Adam Oh, I'll send it.
Adam Oh yeah, it's it's definitely well worth a listen.
Adam And like I say, Joe that was the Joe's been listening to it and he's been really enjoying it.
Adam and the other thing that he's been listening to is there's, I don't know if.
Adam Either of you guys are aware of a guy called Ben Living.
Adam basically, if you go and listen to his stuff on Bandcamp, Ben Living does sort of synth and.
Adam Sort of low-key sort of trip hop dance, but it's packed with horror samples.
Chris Oh, cool.
Lee That sounds right up my alley.
Adam All of all of the songs, the pictures are pictures from films.
Adam Like, it'll be large marge from from Pee-wee Herman and stuff like that.
Lee So.
Adam And but but it's weird because again, it was just one of those ones that I'd been picking up on and I'd been listening to because he's especially on the way up to Halloween, he's just been releasing like a song every couple of days or whatever like that.
Lee Wow.
Adam And yeah, just go and listen, just go and have a listen.
Adam It's really good sort of like stuff, it's just like I say, it's just really, you know, definitely if you like horror films, specifically, if you like horror film music, you will like.
Chris Going to like it.
Adam 80s or 90s, you know, you will particularly like it, it's very sort of synth-driven and beat-driven and stuff like that.
Chris Excellent.
Adam Yeah.
Lee So that sounds great. I'll check in both of those out.
Lee That sounds excellent. Thank you, Joe.
Adam There we go.
Chris Nice one.
Adam Thanks, Joe. Happy Halloween, mate.
Lee Yay.
Lee
Lee Oh, on a similar note, just my own recommend.
Lee I've been listening to it rather a lot recently.
Lee I've been listening to B.A. Johnston, who my brother got me into.
Lee It's a Canadian guy who does like super low-fi music.
Lee But he is obsessed with the 80s and early 90s, and all of his songs are just about like horror films, smoking weed, drinking beer.
Lee And and the cover of one of his albums, he's re-done the Ghoulies with himself on it.
Lee It's awesome.
Chris Cool.
Adam Can I can I just say, and Dean introduce you to this man? I can't see how that appealed to him at all.
Lee It was one of those, he said to me, have you heard of this bloke? I went, no, he went, good because I've just bought you a ticket to go and see him.
Lee I'm coming with you.
Lee I was like, right, okay, right, let's do that then.
Adam That I'll I'll give him his due.
Adam That's a bold move.
Lee Yeah.
Adam You know, because you you could listen to it and just go, this is dog shit, mate.
Adam But.
Adam He obviously knows.
Lee Yeah, oh, I mean, just.
Lee We're all going to jail with one of the best songs I've heard in my life.
Lee And I recommend everybody go and listen to B.A. Johnston, we're all going to hell.
Lee No, we're all going to jail.
Chris We we.
Chris It might be his his you know, his next album.
Adam Yeah, it just it just escalates.
Lee yes, so.
Lee To kick off our Halloween viewing.
Lee Let's start with Adam this time.
Lee Adam, what have you been watching?
Adam well, one film that well, actually, I'm going to start with.
Adam there's a a podcast that I've been listening to and I did recommend to Joe when he'd been sort of talking about it.
Adam talked about Baron Subador.
Adam the Department of Midnight, which is fairly it's brand new, it's this year.
Adam And it's Warren Ellis who wrote Transmetropolitan and Planetary and loads of really cool comic stuff.
Adam He also was the guy behind the animated Castlevania.
Chris Oh.
Adam So he wrote all that that wrote it.
Adam And everything.
Adam So he's a good guy.
Adam And basically there's sort of like, it's a guy who works for a department of an offshoot of the government that's like for in terms of scientific research.
Adam That is to, you know, an oversight committee, i.e., right, we're keeping tabs on what you're doing and we're going to have to come in and shut this down if you fuck this up.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And and that but the nickname of it is the Department of Midnight.
Adam And basically it's the sort of over a series of stories, you just get these little sort of like, they're 20 minutes, half an hour, there are essentially two-handers.
Adam It's the main guy sort of narrating via leaving a voicemail message with his.
Adam Appointed therapist and things like that.
Adam And then it's but also you just get these weird little tales of what I can only describe as like scientific ghost stories almost.
Adam it's all kind of based around the idea that dark matter is actually the backup information of the universe.
Adam And that that sort of like so everything that's happened is kind of stored as and that's what dark matter is, and so it's people doing research into that and resurrecting people and it's yes.
Chris Sort of like the Stone Tapes but on a grander scale.
Adam A much grander scale.
Adam Yeah.
Chris Universe level.
Adam The Stone Tape theory of everything is what it's.
Adam Called.
Adam and there's there's some really good guests, Alicia Witt is on, I think the first one.
Adam She's like the the guest.
Lee Wow.
Adam Guest scientist/villain/person of the week.
Lee That's quite a guess.
Adam And and the and the main guy, the main guy is James Callis who does it.
Adam It, I think he's, he's a gruff man, it borders into gruffy.
Adam Because you're just because it's it's in that sort of ballpark of like, you know, that's kind of it has that sort of feel to it.
Adam Only obviously, the whole point of Gath Marenghi is it's done very nely.
Adam Whereas actually this is well, it's Warren Ellis doing it.
Adam So it's like.
Adam Yeah, he's basically sending it's, you know, he gets sent in as a guy to sort all this shit out.
Adam So he's a.
Adam He's he's your typical sort of he's a rogue, you know, he's a rogue agent who doesn't take no shit sort of thing.
Adam But.
Adam Yeah, but seriously, it's such a good show and it's also it's also one of those ones that's like, right, that was in the in the past 18 minutes, you've just introduced me to about three different fucking concepts that are like, I'm now going to have to think about for days.
Lee That.
Adam So, yeah, and like I said, the whole sort of dark mat thing just is fascinating.
Adam Is a fascinating theory and concept.
Lee Yeah.
Adam So yeah, so that's the Department of Midnight.
Adam It's on any podcasting, I think the series was like six or eight episodes.
Adam Probably could do it in an afternoon, but I was listening to them as they came out.
Adam But it's yeah, it's just really good.
Adam Really good stuff.
Lee I'm going to get on that, 100%.
Chris Cool.
Lee Who love a podcast.
Lee Chris.
Lee What about yourself?
Chris So I thought, what am I going to do for this Halloween? There's there's loads of things I could watch, but I thought and I'm sure there's a list of things that you both told me I should watch.
Lee That you can pick from.
Chris However, I decided to throw it out to the internet.
Chris And I was just like, right, I'm going to kind of come with a bit of a theme here, I want three films.
Chris One to be a comedy, comedy horror that I haven't seen yet.
Chris One to be something a bit quirky, you know, a bit out there, let's just see how it plays out.
Chris And one to be something that actually tries to terrify me, right.
Chris And I thought, well, it needs to be playing one of my phobias.
Chris So, essentially claustrophobia is definitely one of my like.
Chris I mean, I'm sure it's lots of people's, who wants to be stuck in a very small space.
Chris Like, really.
Adam Also just just as a note there, any crazy stalkers listening, so that's claustrophobia.
Adam Just.
Chris So, so, I don't know, can you guess what I went for?
Lee Did you watch Buried?
Chris No, maybe I should have done. I did not come across that.
Adam What's the one with Kiefer Sutherland?
Chris Oh.
Chris No, but what was that?
Adam The fella gets locked in a box.
Chris I mean, that sounds good.
Adam It was like 90s, I think it's The Vanishing.
Chris I may I may have to put this on my list for when I really need to upset me myself again.
Chris Well, right, so, so.
Chris Came up with *The Descent*.
Lee Oh.
Lee Oh yeah.
Chris Oh yeah, right, I kind of thought it's funny.
Chris I would have thought we would have covered that, I'm sure we've mentioned it.
Lee I haven't seen it.
Chris Oh, okay, that's interesting.
Chris All right, well, so it it ticked the box.
Chris Right, but I'll start with, I'll start with the comedy.
Chris Probably should do this one last, but, you know, we're going with this one first, right?
Chris So, came up with *Tucker and Dale versus Evil*.
Lee Yes.
Chris Right.
Chris So again, I was like, how have we not watched this?
Chris I mean, it's like reminiscent of *Cabin in the Woods*, it's got that meta twist, like, I just, I was like, yeah, this is this is looking great.
Chris now, so it's got Tyler Labine, Alan Tudyk, Katrina Bowden, Jesse Moss.
Chris Now, Tyler Labine has been in some things that I I should probably have watched.
Chris right, so something you mentioned, Lee, it's always sunny in Philadelphia.
Chris Not horror.
Chris But you said it's very good.
Lee Love it.
Chris Yeah, and and he was in Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, which I did watch and I enjoyed.
Chris but definitely need to watch that again.
Chris Anyway, so, so he's clearly been in a few a few things.
Chris But yeah, like they him and Alan Tudyk just they worked so well.
Chris Like, it's so funny to see the other side of things.
Chris How everything can be so misinterpreted so easily.
Chris Like, the weird hillbillies look weird.
Chris If you're the other side.
Chris But they're just them.
Chris Like, you know.
Chris What why should they be perfectly sociable just like all the other, you know.
Chris university students who have been educated and and so on.
Chris And like and it is so funny even from the start.
Chris You're just like, yeah.
Chris You can totally see how he just wants to try and he just wants to try and impress the girl a little bit.
Chris That's all.
Lee It's just such nice guys.
Lee And everything just goes absolutely spectacularly wrong.
Chris It is so funny.
Lee I love that film.
Lee I've seen it three or four times now.
Lee It is a real treasure.
Chris It is.
Chris It is, just, yeah, executed so well.
Adam I was going to say, here's the point where I have to say, I've never seen it.
Adam I know that Lee always raved it and to be honest.
Adam I've been waiting since we started doing Welcome to Horror.
Chris Oh, that we would we're going to do it.
Adam I'll watch that.
Chris See, that is the trouble with me going out there and just like.
Adam No, no, no.
Adam This is absolutely spot-on, we always said it's Welcome to Horror in the sense of if at least one of us hasn't seen it.
Adam It definitely needs to happen.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Do you know what I mean?
Adam So that's you guys show it finally showing me Tucker and Dale.
Adam It's like, it's a film that's been on my radar, I've just never got around to it.
Chris It it should be bumped up a little bit. I mean, the deaths are great and just yeah, the way it's interpreted and the way they deal with it and just the characters, they're all just wonderful, really.
Lee I mean, Alan Tudyk is amazing in every, I mean, him in *Resident Alien* just absolutely.
Lee And and of course he was Wash in *Firefly*, which you introduced me to.
Chris Yes.
Lee Years ago, I sort of kind of forgot.
Adam He's not the big, isn't he the big robot in Rogue One?
Chris Yes, right, that's what I was going to say.
Chris Yeah, he's K K2SO like.
Lee Yeah, the.
Lee No, I know that.
Adam The big droid.
Chris Yeah.
Chris Yeah, he is arguably the best droid in any Star Wars ever, basically.
Chris I just.
Adam No, actually.
Chris Like he just he builds up.
Chris I mean, you know, in one film you build up the character of a droid.
Chris And you really feel for him when he is getting slaughtered.
Chris You're like, yeah, I did not think I'd feel that emotional for a droid at this point.
Chris You've done a great job.
Lee I rewatched that film three weeks ago and again we're blown away at what an amazing film.
Chris It is it is really good.
Chris Yeah.
Chris Like they absolutely, they've knocked that one out of the park.
Adam Yeah.
Lee So yeah, good, cool.
Lee Well done, Tucker and Dale, excellent.
Lee And now now Adam can watch it as well.
Adam We've got Well, that's the thing, I'm putting it on the thing of this is like stuff we haven't done.
Lee Oh yeah, yeah.
Adam Because that's that's there's an element to that of the quiz, I would argue, is that you'll be able to hear things that looks like, I thought we'd done more of that.
Lee Yeah, yeah.
Adam Do you know what I mean?
Adam Like, so.
Lee Yeah, I mean that definitely needs to go on.
Lee I any excuse to rewatch Tucker and Dale, I'll always go with.
Chris Cool.
Lee Excellent.
Lee right, so all of mine, I'm going to try and keep fairly spoiler-free.
Lee Because they're all new films.
Lee We've had so much new stuff come out in the last six weeks or so.
Lee I I've been struggling to get through it all.
Lee so the first for this evening, *Beetlejuice Beetlejuice*.
Chris Oh, right.
Chris I watched the trailer, very tempted.
Lee Go on.
Lee Yeah, see the trailer left me.
Lee I mean, it's it sounds like such an obvious thing today, I might be great or it might be awful.
Lee You can say that.
Chris Yes.
Lee About anything.
Lee But.
Lee It did have that feel of this is either going to be spectacular or it is going to shit the bed.
Chris I wondered, have they shown everything that's potentially good in the trailer?
Chris And there's going to be not much left.
Chris But.
Lee No, it was great. So we did it as a double feature.
Lee So we watched the original one at home before going.
Chris Oh, yeah, nice.
Lee See the new one.
Lee And we did drink Tiny Rebel's *Beetlejuice*, which is a watermelon sour, which they released for the film.
Lee And it's neon green and it's bloody lovely.
Adam I drank I drank their sugar-free Tango.
Lee Oh, did you?
Adam With a picture of General Tiger on it, they've done they've done quite well from marketing it.
Adam They have, didn't they?
Lee yes, so *Beetlejuice Beetlejuice* was good.
Lee I really enjoyed it.
Lee I thought it was just tongue-in-cheek enough.
Lee It was great to have everybody back.
Lee and the additional, so you know, the new younger cast, I thought were excellent.
Lee It's oh crap, I should have it open.
Lee the girl who played Wednesday.
Chris From Wednesday, yeah.
Adam General Tiger.
Lee That's yes.
Chris General Tiger.
Chris That's the one.
Lee Yeah, who was fantastic in it and worked so well.
Lee As a basically as a new Winona Ryder.
Lee Because she covers that same.
Chris Can't think of someone more perfect, really.
Lee No.
Chris For pretty much her role.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Yeah, I think I think in the public consciousness, that's pretty much her role.
Adam Oh, it's the new Winona Ryder.
Chris Yeah.
Lee yeah, and it just smashed it out the park.
Lee It was really, it was a great story.
Lee It was really well put together.
Lee it was a it was well-paced, it looked beautiful, it looked exactly like the original.
Lee Like they hadn't done too much to try and, you know, like CGI the shit out of it, basically.
Lee so it looked fantastic.
Lee yeah, I found it really funny and yeah.
Lee I it's an absolute recommend for me.
Lee I can't wait for it to come out on Blu-ray or whatever, so I can watch it again because it was so much fun.
Adam Just just a quick question and this might sound blindingly obvious and there's probably people will scream at this one when they hear me ask this.
Adam Is it Tim Burton? Because I don't even recall.
Adam Whether he was like no one seems to be mentioning him.
Lee It is Tim Burton.
Lee Yeah, I don't know, I don't know why nobody's mentioning him.
Lee He's not on a list anyway, he's not like he's suddenly done something and he's been like, you know.
Adam But also, that's another selling point.
Adam When you're telling me that Michael Keaton's back and Winona Ryder's back, tell me that.
Adam Because no one seems to be saying that it's a, that's why I've had to ask.
Adam Because I'm like, actually, they all think about it.
Chris They could have said by the director of *Beetlejuice*.
Lee Yeah, yeah.
Chris You know.
Lee Yeah.
Lee It's it is Tim Burton through and through, it's exactly what you'd expect from him.
Lee it's got all those same stylistic quirks and callbacks and.
Chris Quirky, comedy, weird, dark, perfectly blended.
Lee That's great.
Lee Yeah.
Lee yeah.
Lee It's great.
Lee It's a great.
Lee It's a great way of getting all the old, as you say, the old crew back, so obviously Michael Keaton and Winona Ryder and Catherine O'Hara are all back.
Lee but yeah, then you've got Jenna Ortega and Willem Dafoe,
Adam Oh, yes, yes.
Lee Danny DeVito who's got a little cameo in it.
Lee It was.
Adam On Statham.
Lee It was fucking wicked, I really, really had a good time with it.
Lee So, yes.
Lee Go and check out *Beetlejuice Beetlejuice*.
Adam Well, I'll have to give it a whirl then.
Chris Yeah.
Adam I've been sort of like, I don't know, you know, like a lot of.
Adam A lot of belated sequels, should we say.
Chris Yeah, like you don't want to be disappointed, really, you know.
Adam Yeah, I'd rather I'd rather not watch it and just think, oh, *Blues Brothers 2000*.
Adam You know, I'd rather.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Exactly.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Yeah.
Adam You know, *Blues Brothers 2000*, fine.
Adam But.
Adam Don't don't even sit with the.
Lee You know, oh yeah, don't do them as a double feature.
Lee You'll blow your brains out.
Adam No, you just got you just go, well, that's a fucking, that's a drop.
Chris That.
Lee Excellent.
Lee Right, Adam, what have you got up next?
Adam well, this I'm I'm feeling that you may have mentioned this before.
Adam If you haven't, Lee, I'll and you haven't seen this, go and watch this because I think you will like it.
Adam *Eat Locals*.
Lee Yes.
Adam You have, right, thank for that because I was just, yeah, because it was again, one of those things where I'm like.
Adam If Lee, I couldn't remember if you'd done it on the like mentioned it on the show or mentioned it at all, but yeah, I just thought that's yeah, this is a bit of Lee, isn't it?
Adam Certainly.
Lee It was it was one of those, I heard about it from nowhere, so I picked it up on DVD almost as soon as it came out.
Lee and then about two years later, a friend of the show, Sharon, messaged me and said, oh, I was chatting to a friend of mine who'd made this horror film.
Lee If you haven't seen it, you should check it out and it was *Eat Locals* and I was like, I've seen it.
Lee It's fucking incredible.
Adam Yeah.
Adam So yeah, and but yeah, no, just so for Chris, I'm assuming you've not seen *Eat Locals*.
Chris No.
Adam basically it's a it's a horror comedy.
Adam The the eight vampires in England meet up for their annual meeting where they discuss like sort of territory and turf and things like that.
Adam But unbeknownst to them, there's a anti-vampire sort of military strike force waiting in the woods.
Adam And they who but both sides are completely off kilter because the army think they've trapped a vampire.
Adam They don't know the traps.
Chris Eight.
Adam Eight.
Chris Yeah.


