The adventures of we have been watching
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Welcome To Horror Presents: “The Adventures of We Have Been Watching”. Once again it’s time for the team to spurt forth with their brain translators to inform you of their extra curricular eye feasting. Items explored include “Twin Peaks - Fire Walk With Me”; Rod Serling’s “The Night Gallery”; Glenn Danzig’s “Death Rider in the House of Vampires”; Cecelia Condit’s creepily surreal short “Possibly in Michigan”; 2018 British Horror Comedy “Book of Monsters”; and Shudder’s “The 101 Scariest Horror Movie Moments of All Time”. No prep needed, but listeners beware, as here be (possible) spoilers and (definite) swearing. Join us!
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UnknownGood evening and welcome to horror.
LeeI'm Lee.
ChrisI'm Chris.
AdamI am Adam.
LeeAnd we're here this evening for another we've been watching, where we run through all the shit we've been watching in the last six weeks since we last did one of these and try and squeeze it all into not enough time.
ChrisYeah.
Leebut before that, we do have some housekeeping to cover. Adam.
AdamWell, first off, we, we put it up on Instagram, but this is the first sort of recording we've done since since it happened, we, our very good friend and designer of our logos, guest on welcome to horror, co-host on Mosle Happy Hour, Mosle Happy Hour, Mr. Wesley Smith has unfortunately passed away and, we're not we we, we're not going to sort of go into anything too much at the moment and we're probably going to look to talking about it more as on a later episode, you know, maybe focus on like just paying tribute to our amazing friend. And, yeah.
ChrisWe could.
LeeSo I mean,
Chrissee I mean some of the artwork is done, you know, certainly crosses over with
AdamYeah.
Chriswith the sort of sort of things we cover and we can mention.
AdamWell and.
ChrisWell and he had
AdamWell, he had he also had his own podcast,
ChrisYeah, absolutely.
Adamwhich is definitely in the wheelhouse of a lot of listeners and I think a lot of, a lot of our listeners listen to that and, yeah.
ChrisThat's why he's going.
AdamYou know, so many sort of,
ChrisHe's going on.
Adamso many people have reached out on Instagram and sort of like, you know, who he we we know or and he spoke to and he knew as well and,
ChrisYeah.
Adamyeah, it's quite sudden, obviously deeply sad. all our love goes out to to Sam and his family. And, yeah, we'll talk about it more when when we are sort of more able to. but for the moment, it's yeah, just a a very sad time and, but yeah, hopefully we can we'll pay him a better tribute at some point, but for the moment just goodbye, Wes and thank you for everything, mate.
LeeYeah, well said.
ChrisRest in peace, my friend.
LeeYeah.
Leeso as well as that, there is some other news, more uplifting news, as it were.
Leewe can't give too much away at the moment, it's still all happening, and is for several months to go.
Leebut a friend of the show, Sean, contacted us and we were chatting and we've discovered he's been working, on some recent
Leelocal horror movies that have been going on, involving a lot of people who we've been seeing their films and we've been discussing in recent months and years from horror on Sea and Romford Horror film festival.
Leeand as a result, Adam and I had the opportunity to go and be extras in an upcoming movie.
AdamYes.
ChrisThat is really cool.
LeeOh, it was fucking awesome.
AdamIt was
LeeIt was just
Leenow we we can't give anything away so we can't give away who was there or to whom we
ChrisAs tempting as it is.
Leewere or oh yeah.
AdamIt's.
LeeIt's.
AdamOh, it's it's so tempting, believe me.
Lee
Adamwe, rest assured, we took plenty of photographs on set and we were speaking to people, obviously, you know, this is it's not our production, they were very kind to allow us to go on set and to allow us to be part of the whole thing. So, you know, we won't be posting anything in that sense, you know, we won't be putting up anything that could be spoilerific or Yeah, or even just to give any of the game away.
ChrisOkay.
AdamBut,
Adambut yeah, it was a very, very exciting day.
Chris
LeeIt was excellent.
LeeSo we just wanted just in case anyone involved is listening, yeah, we just wanted to take this opportunity to say thank you so much again. obviously, once the film is, announced and we know more of when it's going to be coming out and stuff, then we're going to shoot our load and tell you all about it.
Leebut yeah, until then, we're going to keep it under wraps.
LeeBut what we did find out and we can discuss because it is, non-related almost, SeaWork productions were there. Someone from SeaWork Productions was there.
Leewhich is a, it was a new writer director who's in the process of doing their first movie.
Leethey're going to be shooting, think she said seven weeks from the day that we saw her on set.
Lee
ChrisYeah.
LeeAnd it's it sounds fantastic. It's called the domestication of vampires in Essex.
Leeit it's first first piece of work, it's a short film, but she has got such a fantastic cast and she's so excited about it.
LeeLike, you know, when someone's so excited, you can't help but get sort of drawn into it.
LeeAnd all of a sudden you're going,
AdamOh, yeah.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, she was just.
Adambabbling over with excitement.
Leeand.
ChrisI'm I'm wondering domestication of vampires in Essex, but domestication of vampires. Yeah. Well, it certainly sounds like
LeeWe shall find out what that's about.
ChrisI can't.
LeeYeah, as soon as we had the title, we were like, yep, we're in.
LeeThat's good.
LeeWe're already there.
Lee
Leebut she's very kindly agreed once shooting is complete,
Leeto come on and discuss what it was like to go out and and make this film.
ChrisExcellent.
Leeyeah, and then obviously we'll be behind backing this all the way because it it sounds fantastic.
Lee
Leeso.
LeeYes, it was one of a plethora of very exciting and really interesting people who we got to speak to at the weekend. it was a long day. I think we were on set for about 11 hours in total.
AdamYeah.
LeeYeah.
AdamProbably around that, yeah.
LeeYeah, and about two and a half to three hours of shooting.
LeeAnd the rest of it, was just kind of hanging around.
LeeBut because there were people coming in and out and everybody else was hanging around, we just had a great, it was like a party all day.
LeeIt was just different people coming in and everybody was interested and funny and.
LeeOh, yeah, we had absolute killer time.
LeeSo thank you, Sean.
Lee
AdamYeah.
LeeAnd, do you know what, I'm going to say, thank you to Sing Loud as well who also helps us put this together. It's the only name I will mention, because he's involved in so much stuff, so I can say that and it won't give too much away.
LeeBut,
Leebut yeah,
Leenearer the time, we will be gushing about everybody else who was there and how amazing everything was.
Lee
AdamYeah.
LeeCan't wait for that.
ChrisVery excited.
LeeYeah.
AdamYeah, we've just we've just got to sit on that now for a little while and like like excited but brooding hens.
LeeYeah.
Leeyes, so.
LeeLet's cover what we've been watching.
Leelet's start this evening with Chris.
LeeWe've been watching.
ChrisOkay, so I've had I've had a fun on so so a little while back now, I decided to start watching a wonderful film, gifted to me this Christmas by Adam.
Chriscalled Southland Tales and after not too long into it, I thought this probably isn't quite the right thing to cover.
ChrisAnd also I'm probably going to have to watch this maybe once or twice more before I fully understand what's going on in it.
AdamOh, yeah.
ChrisEither I'm getting more stupid or it's it's
AdamIt's
Chrisa little bit harder to follow than Donnie Darko.
AdamI I will I will say that it it it certainly does you when you watch Southland Tales you you go, oh, Donnie Darko was quite comprehensive.
ChrisYeah.
AdamYeah.
ChrisIn terms of That was in terms of it sort of like straightforwardness.
AdamYeah.
ChrisYeah, it certainly did did come to mind, yeah.
ChrisBut so, so I'm not covering that one. instead, I decided to watch a film that, is connected with a series that I was I've definitely been planning to go back and watch, because I saw it quite a long time ago. Now, again, I sort of got to the point where I was like, this is more confusing than I expected, and I expected to be quite confusing.
ChrisIs there a reason for that? And so I'm going to going to have to ask Adam and Lee what you both think.
ChrisBut if you haven't guessed it already, I'm just going to give you a few sentences that I've I've drawn up
Christo hint at what it could be.
ChrisSo, I share a kinship with Blue Velvet in exploring the dark underbelly of quaint town life, though our melodies differ, our themes intertwine darkly. And back to another reference, like Donnie Darko, I delve into the surreal side of youth, but swap the synthesizer for more orchestral mourning. And, imagine if the X-Files met a composer known for deep unsettling orchestrations and pure eerie human mysteries. And in the cold corridors, similar to the shining, you'll find my story unwinding. Not composed by Wendy Carlos, my soundtrack still chills the spine.
ChrisNow, either, either some of those completely don't make any sense, or they will once you know what it is, or they are good.
ChrisI'm not sure.
LeeNo fucking idea whatsoever.
ChrisOkay, that's fair enough.
AdamNo, I.
ChrisNo idea right.
AdamI recognize everything in there except for the context.
ChrisHow do you come.
ChrisRight, okay, so I've got one more that hopefully, well, I'm I'm fairly certain this will give it away.
ChrisI am not Mulholland Drive, but I traverse similar eerie landscapes, my melodies, though not penned by Bernard Herrmann,
Chrisecho with a similar spectral resonance, which film am I?
LeeIs it Fire Walk with Me?
ChrisIt is, it is.
LeeWow.
AdamOh.
ChrisSo do any of those others actually help now you know?
AdamNot in the slightest, cuz cuz I mean Blue Velvet and Mulholland Drive are both David Lynch.
ChrisYeah, so I, but I wondered if that is worth watching as well.
AdamI yes.
ChrisOh.
AdamBlue Velvet.
AdamBlue Velvet is I'm so so did you watch Twin Peaks the series?
ChrisRight, so so so so so I did.
ChrisI saw the original but I saw it about 20 years ago.
ChrisAnd you've obviously mentioned it a few times.
ChrisAnd in my head I know what happens and I remember it being fantastic, but I'm not sure.
ChrisSo I definitely have to watch that again.
ChrisAnyway, I was going to do that and then I saw the film and I was like, oh look, I'll watch the film.
LeeYeah.
ChrisAnd it turns out I I didn't exactly know what to expect.
ChrisBut it starts off as I sort of remember.
Lee
ChrisRight?
ChrisBut then I was like, where's this going?
ChrisIt's like getting more weird and it's not exactly about a detective story, it's now sort of a very traumatic experience of Laura Palmer.
ChrisAnd then I realize it is a prequel and, you know, it starts to make more sense, but it's still quite it well, it is very surreal all the way through.
AdamIt's it's absolutely surreal that the I mean, I'm sort of treading ground here because I do me and Claire sort of are going to start watching Twin Peaks.
AdamSo I want to be
ChrisOkay.
Adamsomewhat edgy in that sense because because that's the thing is.
AdamLike a lot, I feel that like a lot of prequels, it does have the thing of you should see it after.
ChrisAfter, yeah, okay.
ChrisOkay, so that's where I was sort of getting to.
ChrisI was like, should I've actually just watched the series first again.
AdamIt's, well, if you saw the, if you saw the series, at least you know.
ChrisYeah, I I I definitely did have what is going on and everything else like that.
ChrisSo.
AdamBut definitely, yeah, so and because I remember when I first saw fire walk with me, I was a bit disappointed because I really enjoyed the very weird first half.
AdamThe first like 20 minutes with Chris Isaac and.
ChrisYeah.
AdamPika Sup.
ChrisAnd there is some.
ChrisSome odd scenes and and David Bowie turns up.
AdamOh, yeah.
ChrisOh, what he's going.
AdamWe're not going to talk about Judy, we're not going to talk about Judy at all, we're going to leave her out of there. Who do you think this is there?
AdamAnd, that was just me just highlighting to David Lynch because they did, in the sequel series that they did recently, they actually got a Bowie impersonator in.
AdamI can do a better Bowie.
ChrisOkay.
AdamYeah.
LeeYes.
AdamIf David Lynch is listening, which we know he is, obviously, you know, if you if you
LeeHe's Omni present.
Adamdecide to do Yeah, if you if you if you need to do any more, you know,
AdamI am offering up my clenched teeth as a as a Bowie impersonator.
ChrisI so.
AdamBut no, I I I yeah, and but then the second half, because that's the thing is I think a lot because I remember a lot of fans were very divided by the film, but just the film is a lot harsher.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisYeah.
AdamIn some ways.
ChrisYeah.
AdamSo that's what I was in the in the sort of strangest way, it's kind of like because Laura Palmer's murder is the catalyst of the entire of Twin Peaks.
ChrisYeah.
AdamAnd as a backstory and a way of getting into the town and then you meet all these quirky characters and all their sort of little foibles and you get all these other bits that shoot off of it and everything else like that, you kind of almost forget, oh, no, this is actually about.
ChrisHe's.
AdamIt's
Chrisa dark.
Adamsomeone awful fucking life.
ChrisYeah.
AdamYeah.
ChrisIt's.
AdamAnd then finally being, you know, someone's awful victimhood.
Chris
AdamAnd then the final days of that.
AdamAnd it's fucking hellish, you know, and and that's the thing is also David Lynch at that point.
AdamIt was like, right, we're doing this as a movie, it's not on TV, you know, you you can kind of get away with more because there's meant to there's a greater guardianship of who can get in and see it.
Chris
AdamOr certainly, you know, in in terms of if it's on at the cinema, I'd imagine things have changed now because of the way everything works, pretty much anyone can watch any film at home. So they probably have a greater awareness that, yeah, it's possible to, but back in 90.
ChrisWell.
Adamthree or something like that.
Adamand and again, thank you, Wes, because the only reason I saw it is he taped it off the telly.
AdamOff of Sky for me, so because I was like, I've got to fucking see it.
ChrisYeah.
Adamand, but yeah, it was a very sort of but a lot of the fans didn't like it.
AdamBecause it wasn't the sort of quirky catchphrasy end of Twin Peaks.
Chris
AdamIt was much more the fucking darkness and the realness underneath it.
ChrisBrutal, dark, yeah.
AdamAnd yeah, there's a lot in there that's quite sort of Yeah, it's it's a very fun film.
ChrisIt is.
ChrisYeah, but so it'd be interesting, yeah, to to watch the series again and perhaps if we even cover it then if you're watching it or talk about it again.
AdamWell, because I I think also what happened was is I I'm not sure quite whether it was always intended to be the the sort of prequel thing, but apparently at the time, Kyle McGlocklin, who plays Dale Cooper in the series, was kind of like, I don't want to just be typecast as Dale Cooper and the show had been quite a success.
AdamThe show had concluded at that point and then it was like a couple of years down the line, do I want to do this again?
AdamWhich, you know, a lot of actors do have have to make that decision of like, do I want to do I want to So, although he agreed to be in it, he wasn't in it as a main character.
AdamSo they couldn't continue the story in that sort of sense because he wasn't in it enough.
AdamAnd I think because of that, there was also a thing when you watch Twin Peaks, it's kind of like you realize how many lives Laura's involved with.
Adam
AdamBut in terms of it being her last few days, she probably wouldn't have made, you know, she it wouldn't show her dealing with everyone.
ChrisNo, yeah.
AdamOr, you know, so you lost a lot of the characters that had become fan favorites, you know, and stuff like that.
AdamAnd they're sort of like, you know, so a lot of that there is a version of it though, there is there's a thing called the missing pieces.
AdamWhich is about is round about an hour and a half's worth of stuff that was cut out from the I think the film's nearly two hours long.
ChrisYeah.
Adambut yeah, David Lynch had more stuff that was in there with the the locals of Twin Peaks, so there was more to be in there, but obviously you were then talking like a three and a half hour film or whatever.
ChrisYeah.
AdamAnd no, I the studio probably wasn't going to go for that and also, you know, it's it's quite an ask.
ChrisBut yeah, that would make for a good mini series on Netflix now.
LeeYeah.
AdamOh, I mean the the the missing the missing parts is is an is a fascinating thing to watch and it is just great because it's like, great, more Twin Peaks, which is always good.
Adambut I think, yeah, there was I think they sort of like the decision was right, we're going to focus on this being Laura Palmer's story.
AdamAnd in in a curious way.
AdamI mean, obviously, Cheryl Lee who plays Laura Palmer is an amazing actress.
ChrisWell she's great, yeah, that yeah, seriously, great.
AdamBut it's kind of lucky that basically, she was obviously originally picked as to be someone who looked right and then to be found as a body.
AdamAnd then I think they because she turns up she turns up in the series as Laura's cousin Maddi.
AdamAnd I think that was almost like they suddenly were like, actually, she's she's a really good actress, so you know, she could do more in this.
AdamAnd yeah, it's a real sort of showcase for her and Ray Wise's Leland and Grace Brisky as Sarah like the parents.
Adambut yeah, it is it's it's a hell of a and it's certainly unlike, say for example, like with Star Wars where it's now you kind of think, oh, well, you should start with the prequels.
AdamI would argue no, because you get given too much away.
ChrisYeah.
AdamBut, you know, so it's not really much of a revelation when everyone knows what Empire strikes back, you know, if you if you start if you start in release order then you get you get a much better sort of sense of the surprises that are going to be in there and stuff.
Adamthough obviously if you watch it, if you watch Return of the Jedi before any of the prequels, it's like, well, that's clearly the fucking emperor, and that's still clearly the emperor, just because he's got a hoodie on, it's not changed that.
AdamYeah.
Adambut yeah, definitely Twin Fire Walk with Me is definitely.
AdamI wouldn't say to anyone watch that before you watch.
ChrisWatch that.
ChrisNo, yeah, okay.
AdamBecause the series is so, you know, is so driven by the mystery of who did this.
AdamAnd, you know, obviously in the film they show you, so you know who killed Laura Palmer, so it becomes.
Adamyeah, it would it would take it takes away that.
Adamelement that you you wouldn't have the fun of the guessing game that Twin Peaks is or kind of was.
ChrisBut it has made me I think I might I'm I'm very tempted to watch some more David Lynch films again.
AdamOh, mate.
AdamGo for it.
ChrisSo yeah, so so that was that was a a fun one.
AdamOh, and it's also also I mean just the the score for it is fucking awesome.
ChrisIt yeah, no, I mean yeah, that stays with you so much.
AdamIt's amazing.
AdamIt's so fucking haunting.
Adambut yeah, excellent choice, but I yeah, I would say now now go and rewatch the series and just love it again.
Chris
LeeYeah, definitely.
LeeAdam.
LeeWhat did you watch?
Adamwell, I'm going to go, one thing I'm going to mention is I did see Late Night with the Devil at the cinema, like a proper person, went with went with former guest Drew and we both thoroughly enjoyed it, but it's coming on Shutter soon.
AdamEveryone should get to see it and it's a,
AdamI frankly, I want to do an episode on it and I think you guys probably will feel similarly.
AdamOnce we've once it's actually out and you've seen it.
AdamSo I won't go into that too much.
AdamI am going to go very weird here though.
AdamIn that I am gonna the film I've watched, which is a short film from 1983 called possibly in Michigan.
Adamit's on YouTube, it's about 12 minutes long.
AdamAnd basically, my,
Adammy good lady wife and scientific advisor,
Adamshe watches a lot of TikTok.
Adamshe is far too old for that sort of thing.
AdamBut then so am I.
AdamSo who am I to judge? because she's she's not a she's not a teenager or a predatory male in her 50s.
AdamSo what she's doing on TikTok, we don't know.
AdamBut.
AdamBut a lot of weird stuff comes up on there and basically there was a very strange sound effect that was doing the rounds on there.
AdamA lot of its sort of sounds and things like that that just go viral or people use and everything else like that and there was this thing where it's a woman sounding slightly deranged going on about she put her poodle in a microwave.
AdamAnd we found out what this thing was and it was from a short film called possibly in Michigan directed by,
Adamoh,
AdamCecilia Condit.
Adamwith music by Karen Sladani, who is also one of the three actors in the film.
AdamAnd basically, it's a very disjointed little piece of two women being pursued round a shopping mall by a man with a mannequin face.
AdamAnd it is very much very much in the sort of sense of the Lynchian end of.
ChrisYeah.
AdamThis this feels weird, this feels icky and uneasy and just doesn't sit right.
Adamand,
Adamyeah, it's very bizarre, the music, which is as I say is done by Karen Sladani,
Adamwho is one of the actors in it,
Adamis very strange like homemade casio sort of almost like Devo sounding stuff.
AdamIt's.
AdamBasically, it sounds it sounds a lot like an album that me and Dean would try and force you to listen to, Lee.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd you would not be happy about it.
Adambut it was, but basically, yeah, it's it's a very weird thing and sort of I've started watching some of her other shorts and,
Adamyeah, it's just this weird little underbelly of these sort of home movie like home video sort of shot films that she made.
AdamAnd she's still making films today and, but yeah, it's a very odd little.
AdamBasically, it's like having a little 12 minute nightmare to yourself.
Adambut apparently, and this is the thing that sort of interested me as well, is that it's kind of inspired by.
AdamCecilia Condit was dating a man called Ira Einhorn and it turns out that and she freely admits herself that she was on medication that meant that she had no sense of smell.
AdamWhile she was dating him.
Adamhe'd killed his ex-girlfriend and had her mummified in the cupboard.
LeeOh, shit.
Adamwhile she was dating him.
AdamAnd, only found out later.
Adamhe apparently is apparently the case is referred to as the unicorn killer.
AdamWhich sounds a lot more interesting than it is because his name's Einhorn, which is like one horn.
ChrisOne horn.
AdamSo, so he's only I mean, you know, he one's enough, let's just say, for any killers listening, one's enough.
AdamOkay.
AdamYou don't have to keep going.
AdamBut, yeah, so it's sort of a sort of almost like a sort of dealing with that or trying to react to that.
AdamBut basically, yeah, so these two girls are pursued round a shop shopping mall by a very strange man, who then follows them to their house and then they exact their revenge upon him.
AdamAnd,
Adamyeah, it's a it's frankly, it'll be the weirdest fucking 10 minutes you spend this week if you go and if you go and look it up.
AdamAnd,
AdamClaire Claire was particularly interested in seeing what you made of it, Chris.
AdamBecause yeah, because it's a yes, very strange little thing.
AdamAnd it's one of those lovely things where I sort of we found out what this sound was from, looked it up online and.
AdamSuddenly there's whole loads of people and hundreds of articles and saying, oh, you're not you know, this and I've discovered this whole new little pool of weird film.
AdamAnd I was very sort of, I was very pleased with it.
AdamSo it was a certainly as a gateway drug to that, as well as being just a very entertaining, disorienting little, piece.
Adamyeah, go and find it.
AdamIt's not it's like I say.
AdamIt's all over YouTube, so it's very easy to find.
AdamAnd if any of our if any listeners out there know TikTok, they'll probably be bits of it where you go, oh, yeah, I have heard that before, like overdubbed over someone making a cake or something.
AdamBut yeah.
LeeInteresting.
AdamYeah.
Leeso I caught up following the review that we heard a couple of months ago from Adam von Art.
Lee
LeeI decided to go as soon as I got the opportunity and check out Death Rider in the House of Vampires.
Leethe Glenn Danzig movie.
AdamOh, yes.
LeeThe yeah, the cowboy vampire film.
LeeI don't disagree with anything Adam said.
LeeI think that's important to say up front.
AdamYou can't you can't disagree with he's he'll be a counselor soon.
LeeI know.
LeeYeah.
LeeYou can't disagree with someone in parliament.
Lee
AdamNo.
LeeBut, he's America, though, they don't count over there.
Lee
Leebut I yeah, I I I found it.
LeeMore entertaining than I was expecting.
LeeI think because he'd said how terrible it was, but I I was like, I can't not watch a film with that concept, so I have to go and see it.
LeeSo I did.
Leeyeah.
LeeAnd I I probably won't rewatch it.
LeeBut that being said, I wouldn't be surprised if one night, you know, 1:00 in the morning, drunk.
LeeCan't get to sleep, I want something stupid.
LeeIf I fall asleep halfway through, I don't give a shit.
LeeIt it worked for that.
LeeIt's and it is fairly slow going.
Lee
Leeit's quite a nice looking film.
LeeI thought it looked really good.
Lee
LeeSo is it Danzig directed it or or starring or.
Adam
LeeBoth, both, obviously.
LeeYeah.
AdamBoth, he's starring in it.
LeeYeah.
AdamHe's written it.
LeeYeah.
Leebut yeah, I mean you can tell it's written by Danzig.
LeeI mean compared to the last film of what was it his I saw No, no, it's the first one of his I've seen, I think.
Lee
Leebut yeah, I mean I give you an idea of what it is.
LeeThe first 10 minutes is a man leading a topless woman with enormous boobs across a desert on a horse so that she's having to jiggle around a lot.
LeeAnd nothing is happening.
LeeIt's just.
Leea woman jiggling on top of a horse for about 10 minutes.
LeeSo.
ChrisYou sure Patrick wasn't the director?
LeeIt got to the point where even I was like, I'm going to fast forward through this because.
ChrisYeah.
LeeI mean.
AdamYeah.
LeeLike it's a nice.
Leevisual for 30 seconds.
LeeAnd then you're like, yeah, I need more than this out of this film really.
Lee
AdamOh, the the other film we did, wasn't it?
LeeYeah, that was it.
AdamThat like broke cover for a while and then everyone just went Yes, yeah, yeah.
LeeYeah.
LeeI don't think I got to the end of that one.
AdamNo.
LeeI did make it to the end of this one.
LeeIt did take me three nights to watch it, but I did make it to the end of it.
Lee
LeeSo what is the what what's the concept then?
LeeSo basically, it sounds like a spoiler, but it isn't, because you know straight away as soon as basically a guy turns up who is a vampire at a vampire sanctuary in the desert.
Leethey're all cowboy vampires and he basically turns up and says, I'm seeking sanctuary.
Lee
Leeyeah, and it transpires that he's actually, he is a vampire, but he's there to kill all of the other vampires.
Leeof whom, we, you know, Glenn Danzig, obviously, Eli Roth, oh, crock, what's his name?
Lee
LeeJulian Sans is the head of the vampires, so like it's got a really solid cast.
LeeAnd it it looks pretty nice.
Leesome of the.
LeeSouthern accents are so shonky, it's painful.
LeeBut.
Lee
LeeYeah, but I I enjoyed it.
LeeI thought, you know, it like.
LeeHe went out there, he did it.
LeeSome of the writing is God awful.
Leeagain, I saw it a couple of weeks ago now, but I seem to remember one line getting repeated ad nauseum or one phrase or something.
LeeBut,
Leeagain, I didn't really take notes and I watched it over three nights because I kept putting it on and getting about half an hour in.
LeeAnd being like, I'm definitely going to fall asleep if I leave this on any longer.
LeeSo I'd have to stop it and then the next night came back and did exactly the same thing again.
LeeSo.
LeeBut yeah, it's.
LeeDon't pay for it, but if you get a chance when it pops up on Amazon or whatever, definitely give it a watch.
ChrisIt didn't anger you.
LeeNo.
LeeNo.
LeeI said, I came away and I was like, I enjoyed my time with it.
Chris
LeeAnd but yeah, it isn't yeah, if I'd squirrelled around and struggled to find it when it was first released and I'd paid over the odds for it, I would have been a bit pissed off.
LeeBut.
AdamYeah.
LeeYeah, not a terrible film at all.
LeeSo.
AdamFair play.
LeeChris.
ChrisRight, so, so I watched something that I thought I was like, I'll give it a go, like I'm not sure it it could I could talk about it, and then I started watching it, I was like, no, this is actually amazing, like really good, I just loved watching it.
ChrisRight, so it was on Shudder, it's 101 greatest horror moments.
ChrisBut also kind of film.
ChrisSo it mentions a few of the moments.
ChrisIn the films, right?
ChrisSo, so I thought I'll I'll watch the I'll watch the first episode, but then I thought I'll watch the top three, let's see what they are.
ChrisAnd then I'll talk about those.
ChrisAnd like and just watching them back again and hearing people talk about them and just seeing the clips at the same time and it's the different directors.
ChrisAnd it's like it's so brings it back and you realize, as we've said many times,
Chrislike that you remember films in a certain way.
ChrisAnd so you watch it again, it's like, no, there is there's a lot more there than you remembered.
ChrisEven though you think you remembered it all.
ChrisBut yeah, so so I'll go through the top three fairly quickly.
ChrisAnd I'll sort of read out what they are and you can see if you appreciate it.
ChrisAs much.
ChrisSo, and I I just did not expect necessarily what they were going to choose.
ChrisBut so third is hereditary.
ChrisAnd of course it's the decapitation.
LeeYeah.
ChrisAbout the way that it happens and the build up to it.
ChrisAnd then the fact the camera stays on the brother's face and he's just lying there, motionless through the night.
ChrisAnd then in the morning, you can hear the parents talking in the background and it's kept in the background.
ChrisThen they start screaming and it and he's just lying there traumatized and you're like, that is a big scene already, and then at the very end of it, where you almost like you're just relieved that it's ending, you suddenly see the decapitated head with ants crawling all over it on the road.
LeeYeah.
ChrisAnd it's like,
Chrisoh, it suddenly hit again.
ChrisAnd it's just like.
AdamYeah, you don't you don't get a let up with it.
ChrisNo.
ChrisIt is.
ChrisIt's unbelievable.
AdamYou sort of think, oh, well, they've done that.
AdamOddly, you kind of go, well, that's tastefully done.
ChrisYes.
ChrisYeah.
AdamAbsolutely.
AdamFor for a for a roadside beheading.
AdamAnd then it's like.
AdamOh no, there's another.
AdamWell done.
ChrisNo.
LeeWell done.
ChrisNo.
ChrisIt's amazing.
ChrisSo yeah.
ChrisI want to watch that film again.
ChrisThen the next one, again, a bit of a surprise, but it was The Thing.
ChrisAnd again, like in my head, there's no way I would've expected it to be number two.
ChrisI remember it being a fantastic film, really good fun.
ChrisGreat action with maybe a few horror bits throughout.
ChrisRight, but it's kind of not.
ChrisWhen they show it to you and remind you, it's like, so.
ChrisThey show you like essentially a few of the scenes, and it's the fact that you're kind of on edge because you don't know what the thing is going to be.
ChrisIs it going to be someone you know or an animal?
ChrisAnd yeah, and the way it changes and the practical effects, it's like, no, they are really good.
ChrisLike just it is it encapsulates everything you really want.
AdamOh, yeah, he's a fucking amazing film.
ChrisHe's amazing.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisSo what what bit of The Thing was it?
ChrisYeah, well, to.
ChrisYeah, well, so they showed a few different bits of it changing and they showed the dog and and it's like, yeah.
ChrisSo just just yeah, overall, it was really good.
Chrisso absolute I want to watch that again.
ChrisAnd then number one, Texas Chainsaw Massacre.
ChrisRight, and and again, like you remember it amazing, but then they so the clip of a Kirk walk into the house, and the way he just trips over the ram, and then suddenly leather face appears, and just whacked him with a brutal hammer.
ChrisAnd just from there on, it's like, oh.
ChrisAnd then then they show the, bit where she's picked up and put on the hook.
ChrisAnd you don't you don't even see the hook, right?
ChrisYou don't see anything almost, and your head, it is awful.
ChrisAnd it is, it's just so well done.
AdamYou put so much into that film that's not there.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisAbsolutely.
AdamYeah.
ChrisIt's crazy.
AdamWhich I'm in I'm in.
LeeIt's.
AdamIt's so wonderfully.
ChrisI was like,
AdamWonderfully perverse.
ChrisSo what.
Chriswhat bit of the thing was it?
ChrisYeah, well,
ChrisSo so is is that actually the end is it two parts, there's not a third part.
AdamIt's.
AdamIt's the end of the first book, so it's it is a self-encapsulated story.
ChrisRight.
AdamSo it's going to continue.
AdamIt's going to.
Adamfrom the books.
AdamYeah.
LeeCan't wait for that.
LeeBecause yeah.
AdamI mean, he's he's got his intention.
AdamHe's his intention is to do three films.
ChrisOh, yeah.
AdamAs you say, Lee.
AdamThey've he's now completed the first book.
AdamSo they're going to move on to the next.
AdamI don't know whether it's the next book, the next few books, or.
AdamYou know, how how they're going to work it, to be honest, but apparently he does want to do it as a trilogy.
AdamSo he's going to and it's going to continue from the books.
LeeYeah, can't wait for that.
LeeBecause yeah.
LeeAbsolute blast.
LeeFantastic film.
LeeAll right.
LeeWe've got that.
LeeSo two.
LeeAll right.
Leeright, so.
LeeThanks very much for listening, everybody.
LeeGo and check out all the stuff that we've talked about.
Leeoh, quickly, honorable mentions.
LeeChris, have you got any honorable mentions?
ChrisYes, so I watched something else that's probably not horror unless you turn it off after the first scene, and then it's definitely horror, and you probably won't allow it on on their station.
ChrisIt's it's Fallout.
ChrisAnd it's a dystopian futuristic, based on the game, some nuclear bombs go off and, yeah, all hell breaks loose.
ChrisAnd then people live in vaults.
ChrisAnd it's great.
ChrisLike, so it just came out from on Amazon.
ChrisAnd and it's the reason that I watched Fire Walk with Me because, Kyle.
ChrisMaclachlan.
Chrisis the father in it who gets kidnapped and then his daughter, it's her journey out to the service to try and try and find him.
AdamThat's all.
AdamThat's all over Instagram.
AdamHe's bloody useless.
AdamI follow him on Instagram, he ain't fucking mentioned it.
ChrisOh, he's he's not in it a lot, but but he's in it enough that I'm like, yeah, I like you, I'm going to watch Dune, the one that Lee and you hate.
AdamOf course.
ChrisAnd then I'm like, oh,
ChrisI'm not going to watch that.
ChrisI'm going to watch Fire Walk with Me instead.
ChrisOkay.
AdamI love you, I hate you.
ChrisOh, did you?
ChrisOh,
AdamI love.
ChrisThat's funny.
ChrisSee, now I remember.
ChrisYou both hate it.
ChrisThat's weird.
AdamNo, no, I I love it.
ChrisI love it.
ChrisI think it's.
AdamI think it's amazing.
AdamIt's so wonderfully.
AdamWonderfully perverse.
LeeI'm going to give it a second.
LeeGo now I've seen June part two.
LeeI think I'm going to.
AdamOh, absolutely.
AdamYeah, because that's the thing as well.
AdamThe the crippling thing for Dune, like the David Lynch one,
Adamis the fact that what they've done now as.
AdamWhat they did.
Adamtwo hour films, two two hour films.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah.
ChrisIt's good.
ChrisIt's good.
ChrisIt's good.
ChrisI haven't seen.
ChrisPart two.
ChrisBut yeah.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisI've heard it is good.
LeeAmazing.
AdamBut basically,
Adamyeah, part two.
AdamDavid Lynch does part two in like.
Adam20 minutes.
ChrisYeah, yeah.
AdamHaving done pretty much nearly two hours worth of the first.
AdamFirst half.
LeeSo I'm.
LeeI'm definitely going to give it.
LeeI'm definitely going to give it a go.








