The adventures of we have been watching

0:23 Unknown Good evening and welcome to horror.

0:25 Lee I'm Lee.

0:27 Chris I'm Chris.

0:28 Adam I am Adam.

0:31 Lee And we're here this evening for another we've been watching, where we run through all the shit we've been watching in the last six weeks since we last did one of these and try and squeeze it all into not enough time.

0:44 Chris Yeah.

0:45 Lee but before that, we do have some housekeeping to cover. Adam.

0:51 Adam Well, first off, we, we put it up on Instagram, but this is the first sort of recording we've done since since it happened, we, our very good friend and designer of our logos, guest on welcome to horror, co-host on Mosle Happy Hour, Mosle Happy Hour, Mr. Wesley Smith has unfortunately passed away and, we're not we we, we're not going to sort of go into anything too much at the moment and we're probably going to look to talking about it more as on a later episode, you know, maybe focus on like just paying tribute to our amazing friend. And, yeah.

1:41 Chris We could.

1:42 Lee So I mean,

1:42 Chris see I mean some of the artwork is done, you know, certainly crosses over with

1:47 Adam Yeah.

1:47 Chris with the sort of sort of things we cover and we can mention.

1:49 Adam Well and.

1:50 Chris Well and he had

1:50 Adam Well, he had he also had his own podcast,

1:53 Chris Yeah, absolutely.

1:53 Adam which is definitely in the wheelhouse of a lot of listeners and I think a lot of, a lot of our listeners listen to that and, yeah.

1:59 Chris That's why he's going.

2:00 Adam You know, so many sort of,

2:02 Chris He's going on.

2:03 Adam so many people have reached out on Instagram and sort of like, you know, who he we we know or and he spoke to and he knew as well and,

2:13 Chris Yeah.

2:14 Adam yeah, it's quite sudden, obviously deeply sad. all our love goes out to to Sam and his family. And, yeah, we'll talk about it more when when we are sort of more able to. but for the moment, it's yeah, just a a very sad time and, but yeah, hopefully we can we'll pay him a better tribute at some point, but for the moment just goodbye, Wes and thank you for everything, mate.

2:36 Lee Yeah, well said.

2:37 Chris Rest in peace, my friend.

2:39 Lee Yeah.

2:42 Lee so as well as that, there is some other news, more uplifting news, as it were.

2:51 Lee we can't give too much away at the moment, it's still all happening, and is for several months to go.

2:59 Lee but a friend of the show, Sean, contacted us and we were chatting and we've discovered he's been working, on some recent

3:06 Lee local horror movies that have been going on, involving a lot of people who we've been seeing their films and we've been discussing in recent months and years from horror on Sea and Romford Horror film festival.

3:14 Lee and as a result, Adam and I had the opportunity to go and be extras in an upcoming movie.

3:22 Adam Yes.

3:23 Chris That is really cool.

3:25 Lee Oh, it was fucking awesome.

3:28 Adam It was

3:28 Lee It was just

3:30 Lee now we we can't give anything away so we can't give away who was there or to whom we

3:34 Chris As tempting as it is.

3:35 Lee were or oh yeah.

3:36 Adam It's.

3:36 Lee It's.

3:37 Adam Oh, it's it's so tempting, believe me.

3:39 Lee

3:40 Adam we, rest assured, we took plenty of photographs on set and we were speaking to people, obviously, you know, this is it's not our production, they were very kind to allow us to go on set and to allow us to be part of the whole thing. So, you know, we won't be posting anything in that sense, you know, we won't be putting up anything that could be spoilerific or Yeah, or even just to give any of the game away.

3:59 Chris Okay.

4:00 Adam But,

4:01 Adam but yeah, it was a very, very exciting day.

4:07 Chris

4:08 Lee It was excellent.

4:09 Lee So we just wanted just in case anyone involved is listening, yeah, we just wanted to take this opportunity to say thank you so much again. obviously, once the film is, announced and we know more of when it's going to be coming out and stuff, then we're going to shoot our load and tell you all about it.

4:17 Lee but yeah, until then, we're going to keep it under wraps.

4:20 Lee But what we did find out and we can discuss because it is, non-related almost, SeaWork productions were there. Someone from SeaWork Productions was there.

4:33 Lee which is a, it was a new writer director who's in the process of doing their first movie.

4:38 Lee they're going to be shooting, think she said seven weeks from the day that we saw her on set.

4:44 Lee

4:45 Chris Yeah.

4:45 Lee And it's it sounds fantastic. It's called the domestication of vampires in Essex.

4:52 Lee it it's first first piece of work, it's a short film, but she has got such a fantastic cast and she's so excited about it.

5:01 Lee Like, you know, when someone's so excited, you can't help but get sort of drawn into it.

5:05 Lee And all of a sudden you're going,

5:06 Adam Oh, yeah.

5:07 Chris Yeah.

5:07 Lee Yeah, she was just.

5:09 Adam babbling over with excitement.

5:10 Lee and.

5:11 Chris I'm I'm wondering domestication of vampires in Essex, but domestication of vampires. Yeah. Well, it certainly sounds like

5:17 Lee We shall find out what that's about.

5:19 Chris I can't.

5:20 Lee Yeah, as soon as we had the title, we were like, yep, we're in.

5:22 Lee That's good.

5:23 Lee We're already there.

5:25 Lee

5:27 Lee but she's very kindly agreed once shooting is complete,

5:31 Lee to come on and discuss what it was like to go out and and make this film.

5:36 Chris Excellent.

5:37 Lee yeah, and then obviously we'll be behind backing this all the way because it it sounds fantastic.

5:43 Lee

5:44 Lee so.

5:45 Lee Yes, it was one of a plethora of very exciting and really interesting people who we got to speak to at the weekend. it was a long day. I think we were on set for about 11 hours in total.

5:57 Adam Yeah.

5:58 Lee Yeah.

5:58 Adam Probably around that, yeah.

5:59 Lee Yeah, and about two and a half to three hours of shooting.

6:01 Lee And the rest of it, was just kind of hanging around.

6:05 Lee But because there were people coming in and out and everybody else was hanging around, we just had a great, it was like a party all day.

6:12 Lee It was just different people coming in and everybody was interested and funny and.

6:16 Lee Oh, yeah, we had absolute killer time.

6:18 Lee So thank you, Sean.

6:21 Lee

6:22 Adam Yeah.

6:23 Lee And, do you know what, I'm going to say, thank you to Sing Loud as well who also helps us put this together. It's the only name I will mention, because he's involved in so much stuff, so I can say that and it won't give too much away.

6:33 Lee But,

6:34 Lee but yeah,

6:34 Lee nearer the time, we will be gushing about everybody else who was there and how amazing everything was.

6:40 Lee

6:40 Adam Yeah.

6:42 Lee Can't wait for that.

6:43 Chris Very excited.

6:43 Lee Yeah.

6:44 Adam Yeah, we've just we've just got to sit on that now for a little while and like like excited but brooding hens.

6:51 Lee Yeah.

6:54 Lee yes, so.

6:56 Lee Let's cover what we've been watching.

6:59 Lee let's start this evening with Chris.

7:04 Lee We've been watching.

7:05 Chris Okay, so I've had I've had a fun on so so a little while back now, I decided to start watching a wonderful film, gifted to me this Christmas by Adam.

7:12 Chris called Southland Tales and after not too long into it, I thought this probably isn't quite the right thing to cover.

7:18 Chris And also I'm probably going to have to watch this maybe once or twice more before I fully understand what's going on in it.

7:21 Adam Oh, yeah.

7:22 Chris Either I'm getting more stupid or it's it's

7:25 Adam It's

7:26 Chris a little bit harder to follow than Donnie Darko.

7:28 Adam I I will I will say that it it it certainly does you when you watch Southland Tales you you go, oh, Donnie Darko was quite comprehensive.

7:36 Chris Yeah.

7:37 Adam Yeah.

7:37 Chris In terms of That was in terms of it sort of like straightforwardness.

7:41 Adam Yeah.

7:42 Chris Yeah, it certainly did did come to mind, yeah.

7:45 Chris But so, so I'm not covering that one. instead, I decided to watch a film that, is connected with a series that I was I've definitely been planning to go back and watch, because I saw it quite a long time ago. Now, again, I sort of got to the point where I was like, this is more confusing than I expected, and I expected to be quite confusing.

8:05 Chris Is there a reason for that? And so I'm going to going to have to ask Adam and Lee what you both think.

8:12 Chris But if you haven't guessed it already, I'm just going to give you a few sentences that I've I've drawn up

8:15 Chris to hint at what it could be.

8:16 Chris So, I share a kinship with Blue Velvet in exploring the dark underbelly of quaint town life, though our melodies differ, our themes intertwine darkly. And back to another reference, like Donnie Darko, I delve into the surreal side of youth, but swap the synthesizer for more orchestral mourning. And, imagine if the X-Files met a composer known for deep unsettling orchestrations and pure eerie human mysteries. And in the cold corridors, similar to the shining, you'll find my story unwinding. Not composed by Wendy Carlos, my soundtrack still chills the spine.

8:29 Chris Now, either, either some of those completely don't make any sense, or they will once you know what it is, or they are good.

8:35 Chris I'm not sure.

8:36 Lee No fucking idea whatsoever.

8:38 Chris Okay, that's fair enough.

8:40 Adam No, I.

8:40 Chris No idea right.

8:41 Adam I recognize everything in there except for the context.

8:43 Chris How do you come.

8:44 Chris Right, okay, so I've got one more that hopefully, well, I'm I'm fairly certain this will give it away.

8:48 Chris I am not Mulholland Drive, but I traverse similar eerie landscapes, my melodies, though not penned by Bernard Herrmann,

8:53 Chris echo with a similar spectral resonance, which film am I?

8:56 Lee Is it Fire Walk with Me?

8:57 Chris It is, it is.

8:58 Lee Wow.

8:58 Adam Oh.

8:59 Chris So do any of those others actually help now you know?

9:02 Adam Not in the slightest, cuz cuz I mean Blue Velvet and Mulholland Drive are both David Lynch.

9:08 Chris Yeah, so I, but I wondered if that is worth watching as well.

9:15 Adam I yes.

9:16 Chris Oh.

9:16 Adam Blue Velvet.

9:16 Adam Blue Velvet is I'm so so did you watch Twin Peaks the series?

9:20 Chris Right, so so so so so I did.

9:22 Chris I saw the original but I saw it about 20 years ago.

9:25 Chris And you've obviously mentioned it a few times.

9:26 Chris And in my head I know what happens and I remember it being fantastic, but I'm not sure.

9:31 Chris So I definitely have to watch that again.

9:34 Chris Anyway, I was going to do that and then I saw the film and I was like, oh look, I'll watch the film.

9:38 Lee Yeah.

9:39 Chris And it turns out I I didn't exactly know what to expect.

9:42 Chris But it starts off as I sort of remember.

9:46 Lee

9:46 Chris Right?

9:47 Chris But then I was like, where's this going?

9:49 Chris It's like getting more weird and it's not exactly about a detective story, it's now sort of a very traumatic experience of Laura Palmer.

9:56 Chris And then I realize it is a prequel and, you know, it starts to make more sense, but it's still quite it well, it is very surreal all the way through.

10:02 Adam It's it's absolutely surreal that the I mean, I'm sort of treading ground here because I do me and Claire sort of are going to start watching Twin Peaks.

10:11 Adam So I want to be

10:12 Chris Okay.

10:13 Adam somewhat edgy in that sense because because that's the thing is.

10:18 Adam Like a lot, I feel that like a lot of prequels, it does have the thing of you should see it after.

10:22 Chris After, yeah, okay.

10:24 Chris Okay, so that's where I was sort of getting to.

10:25 Chris I was like, should I've actually just watched the series first again.

10:29 Adam It's, well, if you saw the, if you saw the series, at least you know.

10:34 Chris Yeah, I I I definitely did have what is going on and everything else like that.

10:37 Chris So.

10:38 Adam But definitely, yeah, so and because I remember when I first saw fire walk with me, I was a bit disappointed because I really enjoyed the very weird first half.

10:46 Adam The first like 20 minutes with Chris Isaac and.

10:49 Chris Yeah.

10:49 Adam Pika Sup.

10:50 Chris And there is some.

10:51 Chris Some odd scenes and and David Bowie turns up.

10:54 Adam Oh, yeah.

10:55 Chris Oh, what he's going.

10:55 Adam We're not going to talk about Judy, we're not going to talk about Judy at all, we're going to leave her out of there. Who do you think this is there?

11:03 Adam And, that was just me just highlighting to David Lynch because they did, in the sequel series that they did recently, they actually got a Bowie impersonator in.

11:13 Adam I can do a better Bowie.

11:15 Chris Okay.

11:15 Adam Yeah.

11:15 Lee Yes.

11:16 Adam If David Lynch is listening, which we know he is, obviously, you know, if you if you

11:20 Lee He's Omni present.

11:21 Adam decide to do Yeah, if you if you if you need to do any more, you know,

11:25 Adam I am offering up my clenched teeth as a as a Bowie impersonator.

11:31 Chris I so.

11:32 Adam But no, I I I yeah, and but then the second half, because that's the thing is I think a lot because I remember a lot of fans were very divided by the film, but just the film is a lot harsher.

11:49 Chris Yeah.

11:50 Chris Yeah.

11:50 Adam In some ways.

11:50 Chris Yeah.

11:51 Adam So that's what I was in the in the sort of strangest way, it's kind of like because Laura Palmer's murder is the catalyst of the entire of Twin Peaks.

12:00 Chris Yeah.

12:01 Adam And as a backstory and a way of getting into the town and then you meet all these quirky characters and all their sort of little foibles and you get all these other bits that shoot off of it and everything else like that, you kind of almost forget, oh, no, this is actually about.

12:17 Chris He's.

12:17 Adam It's

12:18 Chris a dark.

12:18 Adam someone awful fucking life.

12:21 Chris Yeah.

12:21 Adam Yeah.

12:21 Chris It's.

12:22 Adam And then finally being, you know, someone's awful victimhood.

12:27 Chris

12:27 Adam And then the final days of that.

12:30 Adam And it's fucking hellish, you know, and and that's the thing is also David Lynch at that point.

12:36 Adam It was like, right, we're doing this as a movie, it's not on TV, you know, you you can kind of get away with more because there's meant to there's a greater guardianship of who can get in and see it.

12:45 Chris

12:46 Adam Or certainly, you know, in in terms of if it's on at the cinema, I'd imagine things have changed now because of the way everything works, pretty much anyone can watch any film at home. So they probably have a greater awareness that, yeah, it's possible to, but back in 90.

12:54 Chris Well.

13:02 Adam three or something like that.

13:04 Adam and and again, thank you, Wes, because the only reason I saw it is he taped it off the telly.

13:08 Adam Off of Sky for me, so because I was like, I've got to fucking see it.

13:11 Chris Yeah.

13:12 Adam and, but yeah, it was a very sort of but a lot of the fans didn't like it.

13:15 Adam Because it wasn't the sort of quirky catchphrasy end of Twin Peaks.

13:21 Chris

13:22 Adam It was much more the fucking darkness and the realness underneath it.

13:26 Chris Brutal, dark, yeah.

13:28 Adam And yeah, there's a lot in there that's quite sort of Yeah, it's it's a very fun film.

13:33 Chris It is.

13:33 Chris Yeah, but so it'd be interesting, yeah, to to watch the series again and perhaps if we even cover it then if you're watching it or talk about it again.

13:41 Adam Well, because I I think also what happened was is I I'm not sure quite whether it was always intended to be the the sort of prequel thing, but apparently at the time, Kyle McGlocklin, who plays Dale Cooper in the series, was kind of like, I don't want to just be typecast as Dale Cooper and the show had been quite a success.

13:59 Adam The show had concluded at that point and then it was like a couple of years down the line, do I want to do this again?

14:05 Adam Which, you know, a lot of actors do have have to make that decision of like, do I want to do I want to So, although he agreed to be in it, he wasn't in it as a main character.

14:15 Adam So they couldn't continue the story in that sort of sense because he wasn't in it enough.

14:21 Adam And I think because of that, there was also a thing when you watch Twin Peaks, it's kind of like you realize how many lives Laura's involved with.

14:33 Adam

14:34 Adam But in terms of it being her last few days, she probably wouldn't have made, you know, she it wouldn't show her dealing with everyone.

14:42 Chris No, yeah.

14:42 Adam Or, you know, so you lost a lot of the characters that had become fan favorites, you know, and stuff like that.

14:47 Adam And they're sort of like, you know, so a lot of that there is a version of it though, there is there's a thing called the missing pieces.

14:56 Adam Which is about is round about an hour and a half's worth of stuff that was cut out from the I think the film's nearly two hours long.

15:03 Chris Yeah.

15:04 Adam but yeah, David Lynch had more stuff that was in there with the the locals of Twin Peaks, so there was more to be in there, but obviously you were then talking like a three and a half hour film or whatever.

15:18 Chris Yeah.

15:18 Adam And no, I the studio probably wasn't going to go for that and also, you know, it's it's quite an ask.

15:25 Chris But yeah, that would make for a good mini series on Netflix now.

15:28 Lee Yeah.

15:29 Adam Oh, I mean the the the missing the missing parts is is an is a fascinating thing to watch and it is just great because it's like, great, more Twin Peaks, which is always good.

15:37 Adam but I think, yeah, there was I think they sort of like the decision was right, we're going to focus on this being Laura Palmer's story.

15:49 Adam And in in a curious way.

15:51 Adam I mean, obviously, Cheryl Lee who plays Laura Palmer is an amazing actress.

15:58 Chris Well she's great, yeah, that yeah, seriously, great.

16:00 Adam But it's kind of lucky that basically, she was obviously originally picked as to be someone who looked right and then to be found as a body.

16:11 Adam And then I think they because she turns up she turns up in the series as Laura's cousin Maddi.

16:18 Adam And I think that was almost like they suddenly were like, actually, she's she's a really good actress, so you know, she could do more in this.

16:25 Adam And yeah, it's a real sort of showcase for her and Ray Wise's Leland and Grace Brisky as Sarah like the parents.

16:35 Adam but yeah, it is it's it's a hell of a and it's certainly unlike, say for example, like with Star Wars where it's now you kind of think, oh, well, you should start with the prequels.

16:49 Adam I would argue no, because you get given too much away.

16:53 Chris Yeah.

16:53 Adam But, you know, so it's not really much of a revelation when everyone knows what Empire strikes back, you know, if you if you start if you start in release order then you get you get a much better sort of sense of the surprises that are going to be in there and stuff.

17:02 Adam though obviously if you watch it, if you watch Return of the Jedi before any of the prequels, it's like, well, that's clearly the fucking emperor, and that's still clearly the emperor, just because he's got a hoodie on, it's not changed that.

17:22 Adam Yeah.

17:23 Adam but yeah, definitely Twin Fire Walk with Me is definitely.

17:26 Adam I wouldn't say to anyone watch that before you watch.

17:29 Chris Watch that.

17:29 Chris No, yeah, okay.

17:30 Adam Because the series is so, you know, is so driven by the mystery of who did this.

17:39 Adam And, you know, obviously in the film they show you, so you know who killed Laura Palmer, so it becomes.

17:46 Adam yeah, it would it would take it takes away that.

17:50 Adam element that you you wouldn't have the fun of the guessing game that Twin Peaks is or kind of was.

17:57 Chris But it has made me I think I might I'm I'm very tempted to watch some more David Lynch films again.

18:03 Adam Oh, mate.

18:04 Adam Go for it.

18:06 Chris So yeah, so so that was that was a a fun one.

18:10 Adam Oh, and it's also also I mean just the the score for it is fucking awesome.

18:15 Chris It yeah, no, I mean yeah, that stays with you so much.

18:19 Adam It's amazing.

18:20 Adam It's so fucking haunting.

18:21 Adam but yeah, excellent choice, but I yeah, I would say now now go and rewatch the series and just love it again.

18:27 Chris

18:28 Lee Yeah, definitely.

18:31 Lee Adam.

18:32 Lee What did you watch?

18:35 Adam well, I'm going to go, one thing I'm going to mention is I did see Late Night with the Devil at the cinema, like a proper person, went with went with former guest Drew and we both thoroughly enjoyed it, but it's coming on Shutter soon.

18:43 Adam Everyone should get to see it and it's a,

18:49 Adam I frankly, I want to do an episode on it and I think you guys probably will feel similarly.

18:53 Adam Once we've once it's actually out and you've seen it.

18:56 Adam So I won't go into that too much.

18:58 Adam I am going to go very weird here though.

19:00 Adam In that I am gonna the film I've watched, which is a short film from 1983 called possibly in Michigan.

19:07 Adam it's on YouTube, it's about 12 minutes long.

19:12 Adam And basically, my,

19:16 Adam my good lady wife and scientific advisor,

19:19 Adam she watches a lot of TikTok.

19:24 Adam she is far too old for that sort of thing.

19:26 Adam But then so am I.

19:27 Adam So who am I to judge? because she's she's not a she's not a teenager or a predatory male in her 50s.

19:32 Adam So what she's doing on TikTok, we don't know.

19:35 Adam But.

19:37 Adam But a lot of weird stuff comes up on there and basically there was a very strange sound effect that was doing the rounds on there.

19:44 Adam A lot of its sort of sounds and things like that that just go viral or people use and everything else like that and there was this thing where it's a woman sounding slightly deranged going on about she put her poodle in a microwave.

19:52 Adam And we found out what this thing was and it was from a short film called possibly in Michigan directed by,

20:02 Adam oh,

20:04 Adam Cecilia Condit.

20:05 Adam with music by Karen Sladani, who is also one of the three actors in the film.

20:13 Adam And basically, it's a very disjointed little piece of two women being pursued round a shopping mall by a man with a mannequin face.

20:27 Adam And it is very much very much in the sort of sense of the Lynchian end of.

20:34 Chris Yeah.

20:34 Adam This this feels weird, this feels icky and uneasy and just doesn't sit right.

20:42 Adam and,

20:44 Adam yeah, it's very bizarre, the music, which is as I say is done by Karen Sladani,

20:51 Adam who is one of the actors in it,

20:54 Adam is very strange like homemade casio sort of almost like Devo sounding stuff.

21:01 Adam It's.

21:02 Adam Basically, it sounds it sounds a lot like an album that me and Dean would try and force you to listen to, Lee.

21:08 Lee Yeah.

21:08 Adam And you would not be happy about it.

21:11 Adam but it was, but basically, yeah, it's it's a very weird thing and sort of I've started watching some of her other shorts and,

21:22 Adam yeah, it's just this weird little underbelly of these sort of home movie like home video sort of shot films that she made.

21:30 Adam And she's still making films today and, but yeah, it's a very odd little.

21:34 Adam Basically, it's like having a little 12 minute nightmare to yourself.

21:39 Adam but apparently, and this is the thing that sort of interested me as well, is that it's kind of inspired by.

21:44 Adam Cecilia Condit was dating a man called Ira Einhorn and it turns out that and she freely admits herself that she was on medication that meant that she had no sense of smell.

21:53 Adam While she was dating him.

21:54 Adam he'd killed his ex-girlfriend and had her mummified in the cupboard.

22:00 Lee Oh, shit.

22:02 Adam while she was dating him.

22:05 Adam And, only found out later.

22:08 Adam he apparently is apparently the case is referred to as the unicorn killer.

22:12 Adam Which sounds a lot more interesting than it is because his name's Einhorn, which is like one horn.

22:21 Chris One horn.

22:22 Adam So, so he's only I mean, you know, he one's enough, let's just say, for any killers listening, one's enough.

22:29 Adam Okay.

22:30 Adam You don't have to keep going.

22:33 Adam But, yeah, so it's sort of a sort of almost like a sort of dealing with that or trying to react to that.

22:42 Adam But basically, yeah, so these two girls are pursued round a shop shopping mall by a very strange man, who then follows them to their house and then they exact their revenge upon him.

22:51 Adam And,

22:52 Adam yeah, it's a it's frankly, it'll be the weirdest fucking 10 minutes you spend this week if you go and if you go and look it up.

22:59 Adam And,

23:01 Adam Claire Claire was particularly interested in seeing what you made of it, Chris.

23:06 Adam Because yeah, because it's a yes, very strange little thing.

23:14 Adam And it's one of those lovely things where I sort of we found out what this sound was from, looked it up online and.

23:21 Adam Suddenly there's whole loads of people and hundreds of articles and saying, oh, you're not you know, this and I've discovered this whole new little pool of weird film.

23:29 Adam And I was very sort of, I was very pleased with it.

23:31 Adam So it was a certainly as a gateway drug to that, as well as being just a very entertaining, disorienting little, piece.

23:39 Adam yeah, go and find it.

23:40 Adam It's not it's like I say.

23:42 Adam It's all over YouTube, so it's very easy to find.

23:44 Adam And if any of our if any listeners out there know TikTok, they'll probably be bits of it where you go, oh, yeah, I have heard that before, like overdubbed over someone making a cake or something.

23:52 Adam But yeah.

23:54 Lee Interesting.

23:56 Adam Yeah.

23:58 Lee so I caught up following the review that we heard a couple of months ago from Adam von Art.

24:02 Lee

24:03 Lee I decided to go as soon as I got the opportunity and check out Death Rider in the House of Vampires.

24:10 Lee the Glenn Danzig movie.

24:14 Adam Oh, yes.

24:15 Lee The yeah, the cowboy vampire film.

24:22 Lee I don't disagree with anything Adam said.

24:24 Lee I think that's important to say up front.

24:26 Adam You can't you can't disagree with he's he'll be a counselor soon.

24:32 Lee I know.

24:32 Lee Yeah.

24:33 Lee You can't disagree with someone in parliament.

24:35 Lee

24:36 Adam No.

24:37 Lee But, he's America, though, they don't count over there.

24:40 Lee

24:41 Lee but I yeah, I I I found it.

24:44 Lee More entertaining than I was expecting.

24:47 Lee I think because he'd said how terrible it was, but I I was like, I can't not watch a film with that concept, so I have to go and see it.

24:54 Lee So I did.

24:55 Lee yeah.

24:57 Lee And I I probably won't rewatch it.

25:00 Lee But that being said, I wouldn't be surprised if one night, you know, 1:00 in the morning, drunk.

25:05 Lee Can't get to sleep, I want something stupid.

25:07 Lee If I fall asleep halfway through, I don't give a shit.

25:09 Lee It it worked for that.

25:10 Lee It's and it is fairly slow going.

25:13 Lee

25:15 Lee it's quite a nice looking film.

25:17 Lee I thought it looked really good.

25:18 Lee

25:20 Lee So is it Danzig directed it or or starring or.

25:22 Adam

25:22 Lee Both, both, obviously.

25:25 Lee Yeah.

25:25 Adam Both, he's starring in it.

25:26 Lee Yeah.

25:27 Adam He's written it.

25:27 Lee Yeah.

25:29 Lee but yeah, I mean you can tell it's written by Danzig.

25:33 Lee I mean compared to the last film of what was it his I saw No, no, it's the first one of his I've seen, I think.

25:40 Lee

25:42 Lee but yeah, I mean I give you an idea of what it is.

25:45 Lee The first 10 minutes is a man leading a topless woman with enormous boobs across a desert on a horse so that she's having to jiggle around a lot.

25:55 Lee And nothing is happening.

25:57 Lee It's just.

25:58 Lee a woman jiggling on top of a horse for about 10 minutes.

26:01 Lee So.

26:02 Chris You sure Patrick wasn't the director?

26:04 Lee It got to the point where even I was like, I'm going to fast forward through this because.

26:08 Chris Yeah.

26:09 Lee I mean.

26:10 Adam Yeah.

26:10 Lee Like it's a nice.

26:12 Lee visual for 30 seconds.

26:13 Lee And then you're like, yeah, I need more than this out of this film really.

26:18 Lee

26:19 Adam Oh, the the other film we did, wasn't it?

26:21 Lee Yeah, that was it.

26:22 Adam That like broke cover for a while and then everyone just went Yes, yeah, yeah.

26:26 Lee Yeah.

26:27 Lee I don't think I got to the end of that one.

26:30 Adam No.

26:31 Lee I did make it to the end of this one.

26:33 Lee It did take me three nights to watch it, but I did make it to the end of it.

26:36 Lee

26:37 Lee So what is the what what's the concept then?

26:39 Lee So basically, it sounds like a spoiler, but it isn't, because you know straight away as soon as basically a guy turns up who is a vampire at a vampire sanctuary in the desert.

26:45 Lee they're all cowboy vampires and he basically turns up and says, I'm seeking sanctuary.

26:50 Lee

26:52 Lee yeah, and it transpires that he's actually, he is a vampire, but he's there to kill all of the other vampires.

26:57 Lee of whom, we, you know, Glenn Danzig, obviously, Eli Roth, oh, crock, what's his name?

27:05 Lee

27:06 Lee Julian Sans is the head of the vampires, so like it's got a really solid cast.

27:10 Lee And it it looks pretty nice.

27:12 Lee some of the.

27:14 Lee Southern accents are so shonky, it's painful.

27:16 Lee But.

27:17 Lee

27:18 Lee Yeah, but I I enjoyed it.

27:21 Lee I thought, you know, it like.

27:24 Lee He went out there, he did it.

27:26 Lee Some of the writing is God awful.

27:29 Lee again, I saw it a couple of weeks ago now, but I seem to remember one line getting repeated ad nauseum or one phrase or something.

27:35 Lee But,

27:36 Lee again, I didn't really take notes and I watched it over three nights because I kept putting it on and getting about half an hour in.

27:42 Lee And being like, I'm definitely going to fall asleep if I leave this on any longer.

27:45 Lee So I'd have to stop it and then the next night came back and did exactly the same thing again.

27:49 Lee So.

27:50 Lee But yeah, it's.

27:51 Lee Don't pay for it, but if you get a chance when it pops up on Amazon or whatever, definitely give it a watch.

27:56 Chris It didn't anger you.

27:58 Lee No.

27:58 Lee No.

27:59 Lee I said, I came away and I was like, I enjoyed my time with it.

28:03 Chris

28:03 Lee And but yeah, it isn't yeah, if I'd squirrelled around and struggled to find it when it was first released and I'd paid over the odds for it, I would have been a bit pissed off.

28:08 Lee But.

28:08 Adam Yeah.

28:09 Lee Yeah, not a terrible film at all.

28:11 Lee So.

28:12 Adam Fair play.

28:13 Lee Chris.

28:15 Chris Right, so, so I watched something that I thought I was like, I'll give it a go, like I'm not sure it it could I could talk about it, and then I started watching it, I was like, no, this is actually amazing, like really good, I just loved watching it.

28:28 Chris Right, so it was on Shudder, it's 101 greatest horror moments.

28:33 Chris But also kind of film.

28:35 Chris So it mentions a few of the moments.

28:35 Chris In the films, right?

28:37 Chris So, so I thought I'll I'll watch the I'll watch the first episode, but then I thought I'll watch the top three, let's see what they are.

28:42 Chris And then I'll talk about those.

28:43 Chris And like and just watching them back again and hearing people talk about them and just seeing the clips at the same time and it's the different directors.

28:50 Chris And it's like it's so brings it back and you realize, as we've said many times,

28:53 Chris like that you remember films in a certain way.

28:56 Chris And so you watch it again, it's like, no, there is there's a lot more there than you remembered.

29:00 Chris Even though you think you remembered it all.

29:02 Chris But yeah, so so I'll go through the top three fairly quickly.

29:05 Chris And I'll sort of read out what they are and you can see if you appreciate it.

29:07 Chris As much.

29:08 Chris So, and I I just did not expect necessarily what they were going to choose.

29:14 Chris But so third is hereditary.

29:16 Chris And of course it's the decapitation.

29:17 Lee Yeah.

29:19 Chris About the way that it happens and the build up to it.

29:22 Chris And then the fact the camera stays on the brother's face and he's just lying there, motionless through the night.

29:30 Chris And then in the morning, you can hear the parents talking in the background and it's kept in the background.

29:36 Chris Then they start screaming and it and he's just lying there traumatized and you're like, that is a big scene already, and then at the very end of it, where you almost like you're just relieved that it's ending, you suddenly see the decapitated head with ants crawling all over it on the road.

29:45 Lee Yeah.

29:45 Chris And it's like,

29:46 Chris oh, it suddenly hit again.

29:47 Chris And it's just like.

29:48 Adam Yeah, you don't you don't get a let up with it.

29:49 Chris No.

29:50 Chris It is.

29:50 Chris It's unbelievable.

29:51 Adam You sort of think, oh, well, they've done that.

29:54 Adam Oddly, you kind of go, well, that's tastefully done.

29:55 Chris Yes.

29:56 Chris Yeah.

29:57 Adam Absolutely.

29:57 Adam For for a for a roadside beheading.

30:01 Adam And then it's like.

30:02 Adam Oh no, there's another.

30:03 Adam Well done.

30:03 Chris No.

30:04 Lee Well done.

30:04 Chris No.

30:04 Chris It's amazing.

30:05 Chris So yeah.

30:06 Chris I want to watch that film again.

30:07 Chris Then the next one, again, a bit of a surprise, but it was The Thing.

30:11 Chris And again, like in my head, there's no way I would've expected it to be number two.

30:14 Chris I remember it being a fantastic film, really good fun.

30:18 Chris Great action with maybe a few horror bits throughout.

30:22 Chris Right, but it's kind of not.

30:24 Chris When they show it to you and remind you, it's like, so.

30:28 Chris They show you like essentially a few of the scenes, and it's the fact that you're kind of on edge because you don't know what the thing is going to be.

30:35 Chris Is it going to be someone you know or an animal?

30:37 Chris And yeah, and the way it changes and the practical effects, it's like, no, they are really good.

30:42 Chris Like just it is it encapsulates everything you really want.

30:44 Adam Oh, yeah, he's a fucking amazing film.

30:46 Chris He's amazing.

30:46 Chris Yeah.

30:47 Chris So what what bit of The Thing was it?

30:49 Chris Yeah, well, to.

30:50 Chris Yeah, well, so they showed a few different bits of it changing and they showed the dog and and it's like, yeah.

30:54 Chris So just just yeah, overall, it was really good.

30:57 Chris so absolute I want to watch that again.

31:00 Chris And then number one, Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

31:03 Chris Right, and and again, like you remember it amazing, but then they so the clip of a Kirk walk into the house, and the way he just trips over the ram, and then suddenly leather face appears, and just whacked him with a brutal hammer.

31:10 Chris And just from there on, it's like, oh.

31:12 Chris And then then they show the, bit where she's picked up and put on the hook.

31:15 Chris And you don't you don't even see the hook, right?

31:16 Chris You don't see anything almost, and your head, it is awful.

31:19 Chris And it is, it's just so well done.

31:21 Adam You put so much into that film that's not there.

31:23 Chris Yeah.

31:24 Chris Absolutely.

31:24 Adam Yeah.

31:25 Chris It's crazy.

31:26 Adam Which I'm in I'm in.

31:28 Lee It's.

31:29 Adam It's so wonderfully.

31:29 Chris I was like,

31:29 Adam Wonderfully perverse.

31:30 Chris So what.

31:30 Chris what bit of the thing was it?

31:31 Chris Yeah, well,

31:32 Chris So so is is that actually the end is it two parts, there's not a third part.

31:37 Adam It's.

31:37 Adam It's the end of the first book, so it's it is a self-encapsulated story.

31:41 Chris Right.

31:41 Adam So it's going to continue.

31:42 Adam It's going to.

31:43 Adam from the books.

31:44 Adam Yeah.

31:45 Lee Can't wait for that.

31:46 Lee Because yeah.

31:47 Adam I mean, he's he's got his intention.

31:49 Adam He's his intention is to do three films.

31:52 Chris Oh, yeah.

31:52 Adam As you say, Lee.

31:53 Adam They've he's now completed the first book.

31:54 Adam So they're going to move on to the next.

31:57 Adam I don't know whether it's the next book, the next few books, or.

32:00 Adam You know, how how they're going to work it, to be honest, but apparently he does want to do it as a trilogy.

32:05 Adam So he's going to and it's going to continue from the books.

32:07 Lee Yeah, can't wait for that.

32:08 Lee Because yeah.

32:09 Lee Absolute blast.

32:10 Lee Fantastic film.

32:12 Lee All right.

32:12 Lee We've got that.

32:13 Lee So two.

32:13 Lee All right.

32:14 Lee right, so.

32:15 Lee Thanks very much for listening, everybody.

32:18 Lee Go and check out all the stuff that we've talked about.

32:21 Lee oh, quickly, honorable mentions.

32:24 Lee Chris, have you got any honorable mentions?

32:27 Chris Yes, so I watched something else that's probably not horror unless you turn it off after the first scene, and then it's definitely horror, and you probably won't allow it on on their station.

32:33 Chris It's it's Fallout.

32:35 Chris And it's a dystopian futuristic, based on the game, some nuclear bombs go off and, yeah, all hell breaks loose.

32:43 Chris And then people live in vaults.

32:45 Chris And it's great.

32:45 Chris Like, so it just came out from on Amazon.

32:47 Chris And and it's the reason that I watched Fire Walk with Me because, Kyle.

32:53 Chris Maclachlan.

32:55 Chris is the father in it who gets kidnapped and then his daughter, it's her journey out to the service to try and try and find him.

33:03 Adam That's all.

33:04 Adam That's all over Instagram.

33:04 Adam He's bloody useless.

33:05 Adam I follow him on Instagram, he ain't fucking mentioned it.

33:07 Chris Oh, he's he's not in it a lot, but but he's in it enough that I'm like, yeah, I like you, I'm going to watch Dune, the one that Lee and you hate.

33:13 Adam Of course.

33:14 Chris And then I'm like, oh,

33:15 Chris I'm not going to watch that.

33:16 Chris I'm going to watch Fire Walk with Me instead.

33:17 Chris Okay.

33:18 Adam I love you, I hate you.

33:20 Chris Oh, did you?

33:20 Chris Oh,

33:21 Adam I love.

33:21 Chris That's funny.

33:21 Chris See, now I remember.

33:22 Chris You both hate it.

33:23 Chris That's weird.

33:23 Adam No, no, I I love it.

33:24 Chris I love it.

33:25 Chris I think it's.

33:25 Adam I think it's amazing.

33:26 Adam It's so wonderfully.

33:28 Adam Wonderfully perverse.

33:29 Lee I'm going to give it a second.

33:30 Lee Go now I've seen June part two.

33:32 Lee I think I'm going to.

33:34 Adam Oh, absolutely.

33:35 Adam Yeah, because that's the thing as well.

33:36 Adam The the crippling thing for Dune, like the David Lynch one,

33:40 Adam is the fact that what they've done now as.

33:44 Adam What they did.

33:45 Adam two hour films, two two hour films.

33:46 Chris Yeah.

33:47 Lee Yeah.

33:47 Chris It's good.

33:47 Chris It's good.

33:48 Chris It's good.

33:48 Chris I haven't seen.

33:48 Chris Part two.

33:49 Chris But yeah.

33:49 Chris Yeah.

33:50 Chris I've heard it is good.

33:50 Lee Amazing.

33:51 Adam But basically,

33:51 Adam yeah, part two.

33:52 Adam David Lynch does part two in like.

33:54 Adam 20 minutes.

33:56 Chris Yeah, yeah.

33:56 Adam Having done pretty much nearly two hours worth of the first.

34:01 Adam First half.

34:02 Lee So I'm.

34:03 Lee I'm definitely going to give it.

34:04 Lee I'm definitely going to give it a go.