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LeeGood evening and welcome to horror. I'm Lee.

ChrisI'm Chris.

AdamI'm Adam.

LeeAnd we are here again for a general roundup of the shit that we've been watching since, well, it's been months since we've done one of these, I think, so,

ChrisYes.

AdamYes.

LeeI have not written half of it down, but let's see how we get on anyway. there will be spoilers, there has been swearing, and there will be more.

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ChrisIt's bad that we've got to that stage.

LeeI know. I know. I can't even get through the welcome sentence without swearing, but never mind, it's, yeah.

AdamWelcome to fucking horror.

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LeeYes. So, thank you Adam for, I'd like to just say a thank you from Welcome to Horror to Welcome to Horror. to Adam for doing the Six Feet Deeper episodes, which everyone seems to be enjoying, and I, I really like because I'm not on 'em, so I get to sit back and listen, which is always nice.

AdamOh, thank you sir. Thanks, thank you folks.

AdamI do, I do like doing 'em in my little vault down the bottom of the bottom of Welcome to Horror Towers.

AdamThat's Welcome to fucking Horror Towers.

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Leeyes. So, we are gonna be rounding up as we say, things we've been watching. So,

LeeChris, I know you've been very busy, but have you managed to squeeze any additional horror in over the last couple of months?

ChrisI have. Hopefully I've got some here that you might find interesting.

ChrisBut I'll start with the failure. So I, I decided to watch Chappie because I've heard a few people say it's worth a watch. And in my head, I was thinking, yeah, it sounds like sort of could be horror.

ChrisTurns out it's not really. I was, I was sort of thinking AI gone wrong, there's gonna be some dark bits in it.

ChrisAnd there is, and in a way it was possibly in its elements where it could, could have been because of how young the robot is portrayed to be and the situations he's put in are pretty awful. If that was actually a child we were watching, it would have felt far worse.

ChrisAnd so the, the concept is fascinating. Like and and, you know, it's still very relevant. I know it's 2015.

ChrisBut anyway, so I was gonna say that was actually my failure, I wasn't gonna cover that.

ChrisIt was, it was still, it was still a good film.

AdamIt's a good film. He's probably, I would agree with you, it's probably not horror. The best way I would always describe that film is, 2000 AD did Short Circuit.

LeeYes, that is a hundred. I was about to say it's Short Circuit with bad language.

AdamYeah, and and Dark Cyberpunks.

LeeAnd De Antwoord.

ChrisYes, yeah, yeah, that was good to hear them again.

AdamOh, and Hugh Jackman as well. He's Hugh Jackman in that, wasn't he? Yeah.

ChrisAnd Sigourney Weaver.

AdamSigourney Weaver as well, surprised at both of those, yeah.

ChrisYeah.

LeeWow.

ChrisNot their biggest parts ever, but, you know.

AdamAnd and and yet De Antwoord had quite the role.

LeeYes.

AdamRegardless of their, regardless of their acting. So,

LeeI need to go back and re-watch that because I do like De Antwoord, it's as much a reason to go back and watch that as any other reason to watch the film.

AdamIt is, yeah, and it's and it's Neill Blomkamp who did, Oh.

ChrisRight, so I, I thought I'd recognize his is.

ChrisRight, okay, okay.

AdamYeah, District 9 and that really good set of short films, again, one with Sigourney Weaver in it, that they the Oats Studios.

ChrisOh, right, was that him? Was okay, yeah.

AdamThat's him as well.

Chrisshould've looked that up really.

ChrisBut anyway, so I wasn't gonna cover that. What I was gonna cover instead was Under the Skin, which is 2013.

Chrisfilm directed by Jonathan Glazer, based on a 2000 novel with the same name by Michael Faber, starring.

ChrisScarlett Johansson, mostly as pretty much the only actor in it, I think.

ChrisYeah. Pretty much everyone else seems to be just real people.

AdamYeah.

LeeThat was a fucking weird movie.

LeeI, I really enjoyed it, and I loved the fact that she made it.

ChrisYeah, yeah.

LeeBecause it was such a weird indie movie that she just, yeah, when it seemed like a strange role for her to do.

AdamI, I remember someone, I remember talking about it to someone at work and their description was, it was weird that Scarlett Johansson did this after she was Scarlett Johansson, the box office name.

ChrisYeah, yeah.

AdamHe said, this feels like the film you do earlier in your career before you've got before you're a movie.

ChrisYeah. Like, you know, versions of the, versions of the.

ChrisThat me up for thinking, yeah, fair play to her, that is like, yeah, absolutely.

LeeI loved that when people do that.

LeeI, similarly, I went back this week because, Chris and I are off shortly to Fright Fest, and we're gonna be watching the film starring Elijah Wood, written by the guy who did Come to Daddy. So I re-watched Come to Daddy, and it's got the same vibes as that. It's like, it's someone who's made it all the way to the top of the tree in Hollywood and then goes, I'm gonna do a really, really weird indie movie effectively.

AdamYeah, he does a lot of, well, what's his name? Daniel Radcliffe does seem to do a lot of.

ChrisThat's interesting, yeah.

AdamLike what was the Swiss Army Man where he's basically a corpse that someone uses to get off an island?

ChrisOh, yeah.

AdamThat's a good film.

ChrisI think I need to watch that.

LeeI've not seen that, but I've seen the one, I can't remember what it was called, the one where it's a basically it's an internet show, and he wakes up one morning and someone has bolted guns to his hands.

AdamOh, no, I can't think what that's called.

LeeThat was a weird, but again, like, really good fun, but just a mental movie. Like, he doesn't need to be doing it, but I'm so glad that he did. And I love, I love that. I think it's giving back, isn't it?

LeeIt's, it's putting your name to something that nobody would have seen if you hadn't gone on board and been part of it. It would have just been a weird, you know, sort of somewhere something that like The Prince's Trust might show, but wouldn't get a massive release.

LeeAnd suddenly they put their name behind it and it gives people this big springboard into making big movies. And I think it's a really good way of giving back. I think it's a lovely thing.

ChrisYeah, yeah, it really is.

AdamBut no, it's it's, no, it is a, the soundtrack is fucking incredible, the imagery of it. And not only that, but Jonathan Glazer, I really like as a director because the film he did before that was Sexy Beast.

ChrisOh! Yeah, yeah, I haven't watched that in a long, long time.

AdamMemorably, yeah, memorably reviewed by my father to me as, I have not heard the word cunt that many times in my life. And coming from him, that was saying a lot, yeah.

LeeAnd he's Ben Kingsley, wasn't it?

AdamHe kept shouting it for. Yeah, he plays his like of, his mate, but yeah, that's.

AdamBut again, they feel utterly divorced from each other. They don't feel like it's the same person, but that is the beauty of it. And and they're both films I really like, you know, but totally different ways.

AdamIt's not like I'm watching, you know, like it's, oh, you watch a Tarantino film, or you watch a direct like a Jim Jarmusch film. You always kind of know where you're.

AdamWhereas with that, it's like, no, these are two cracking films, but I would not have said it was the same guy if I did not know.

LeeNo.

ChrisAnd I might have to end this short review of the film by, saying we've mentioned before about old white man penis from that film in.

ChrisCram, no, they were the Expelz. They were the Expelz. That's it. That's it. That was quite a lot of old man cox.

ChrisThis, this one has younger men.

AdamYeah, it's a lot of young men.

ChrisBut I was surprised at the, the extreme portrayal.

AdamWell, it is very explicit and, you know, made it even more real, like, in that.

AdamIn fairness, Scarlett Johansson is full frontal nude in it, so everyone else is.

ChrisOh, it's also true.

AdamYou know, it sort of, yeah.

ChrisThat guy wasn't shy about it.

AdamWell, I don't think you can be at that point, can you?

AdamDo you know what I mean? It's like that, that's like, that's like don't put on your CV you can ride a horse if you can't. Do you know what I mean? If you're an actor, you don't wanna get there on day one, shit yourself and break your leg.

AdamYou know, it's like, just don't, you, you might want the job, but don't tell them and then get all coy.

AdamYou know, just say, don't. Yeah, happy to show bits. Can do Welsh accent and South American, I don't know.

ChrisSo yeah, so I recommend that.

LeeGood call, very good call.

LeeAdam, what about you?

Adamwell I've, I've gone with, first of all, well, I, I think I might actually veer because I was, I had, I had it in sections.

AdamSo in line with Sightseers, I re-watched The Ghoul. Not the 1933 one with Boris Karloff, not the 1975 one with Peter Cushing. The 2006 one, produced by Ben Wheatley, directed by Gareth Tunley, who is in Sightseers. He doesn't get run over in Sightseers, but he is in Sightseers.

AdamI got that wrong.

AdamAnd, starring, Tom Meeten, who is the shaman in Sightseers and Alice Lowe, Dan Skinner, or Angelos, as you may know him, like does a lot of stuff with Vic and Bob. Rufus Jones. Niamh Cusack and Geoffrey McGivern. Now Geoffrey McGivern's one of those people who is just, it's Crimewatch. If you know him, you'll recognize him. It's because he is one, he's like, he's like the, he's like the sort of pre-Kevin Eldon, Kevin Eldon. One of those guys who's just in, he's, for example, he is either Biggum from the, standing at the back dressed stupidly and looking stupid party. Oh yeah. In Blackadder the Third. Yes, yes. Oh, I know him. Yeah, him. And he's in Chellmswood 123 and Frying LoRry and loads and loads of shit. And he's, he was in that thing that, Mitchell and Webb did after Peep Show. He was the disreputable grandfather in that or uncle or something like that. But anyway, so The Ghoul is, despite all those names in it, The Ghoul is serious, it's not a comedy film, it's just a straight, well, it starts off as a straight thriller where, it's a detective. He's being called in for an unusual murder that has maybe has some sort of weird properties to it. Like, how does this murder take place, you know, without a supernatural element, shall we suggest? I don't know. and then to sort of find out more about it, he goes undercover with, a psychiatrist. Who is, the psychiatrist to one of their leads. and starts telling her the and goes undercover as a depressed person to try and get more facts and more sort of like info on this other guy. and then possibly the film reveals to you that actually he is going to see a psychotherapist. And he is really depressed and the whole, detective thing might be a fantasy. Or it might not be. I remember you raving about this at the time, and I still haven't gotten round to seeing it, but I definitely. Yeah, it does sound interesting. Yeah. It, it sits under my thing, I've now decided that there might be others out there, but as far as I'm concerned, a hard and fast rule is if a film is called The Ghoul, it's fucking awesome. Yes. Because because the Boris Karloff one's fucking great. The one with Peter Cushing and John Hurt's fucking amazing, I love that film. And this again, I just really. And again, like I say, it's a lot of, you know, it's mostly people from that sort of Mighty Boosh kind of era of comedy, like say it's like Alice Lowe, so it's like Sightseers, you got those same sort of people in there. Deadly serious and you're like, oh, actually this is they're really good fucking actors and it's not a, you know what I mean? I mean it is the classic thing that you have to be a great actor to do comedy. but yeah, they're they're just like everyone in it's fantastic. And as I say, it's sort of vies each way because then he goes to. He first goes to a psychiatrist, gets referred to another psychiatrist, but that psychiatrist is into, occultism and esoterica. And starts talking about like loops, time loops and things like that. And it all sort of feeds together, plus the guy's that, you know, so. Is he a detective pretending to have depression or is he a guy with depression who pretends he's a detective to try and get through his day because it's a fantasy? But also is there possibly something actually supernatural occurring in so much as occult practical magic, basically, you know, could that be in the key and it's like, yeah. It sounds awesome. But it's a great film and I will say this, this is, I don't feel I've spoilt it because I don't think it gives you a clear answer. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah. You get to the end of it and it's like that could this could go either way, you know, is this which is the fantasy could go either way if you see what I mean? Yeah. So, you know, because he's talking to the psychiatrist, the depressed person, it's like, oh, so what do you do? Well, I just walk around the streets and what do you do? sort of pretend I'm investigating things like I'm a policeman or something like that. And it sort of, yeah, sort of snowballs from there that you're suddenly like, yeah, shit, which way round is this now? And it's, yeah, and it's really, yeah, and it was you saying about Under the Skin, it's that same sort of vibe, you know, where it's like very sort of, very sort of like a lot of mood and sort of an overall feeling to it, you know, a sort of like a sort of darkness or sinisterness and everything. But yeah, so yeah, that's my, my first recommendation is The Ghoul. Sounds amazing. From 2016, but also any other film called The Ghoul is good. Is probably worth watching. Yes.

LeeOh.

AdamI know him.

LeeYeah.

LeeYes.

LeeOh.

LeeReally?

ChrisYeah.

LeeOh.

LeeOkay. Yeah.

LeeYeah.

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