Attack the Block

0:22LeeGood evening and welcome to Horror, I'm Lee.

0:25ChrisI'm Chris.

0:26AdamAnd I'm Adam.

0:28LeeYes, and we're here yet again for episode 130 I have no idea.

0:36AdamI think we're 118th.

0:40ChrisYes.

0:40LeeI think you're right.

0:40LeeI don't even know why I mentioned the number.

0:43LeeI've literally never done that before apart from on like, you know, important episodes. So,

0:48ChrisYeah.

0:49LeeI should have thought about that.

0:50ChrisEvery episode's important.

0:52LeeYou're quite right.

0:53LeeIt's almost as if I don't think about this until I switch the mic on and then I suddenly go, oh shit, what am I going to say?

0:59LeeAnd I've been doing this for three years and I'm still hanging by the seat of my pants. Um,

1:44Leebut that's all right, because it's a special celebration because we are here for the birthday of our very own special slave Chris.

1:53ChrisOh.

1:54ChrisDo I get do I get like special walkies?

1:57ChrisYou know.

1:58AdamYou get you get special walkies and we're finally going to change your bucket.

2:02ChrisWe.

2:05ChrisSo that was the best thing about it, the the disgusting

2:12AdamJust looking just looking into it and seeing all the patterns that emerge after three sleepless nights and lack of food hallucinations.

2:20ChrisMmm.

2:23LeeSpeaking of which, that's bit what this film felt like.

2:25LeeUm, so we are here to watch Chris's choice this week of Attack the Block from 2011.

2:34LeeUm,

2:35Leebut before

2:36AdamIn actual fact, in actual fact,

2:39Adamthis month, I think we're recording this on the 15th, um, it 15th of May, it debuted in its premiere was the 13th.

3:30LeeOh!

3:31AdamSo it's the this month is the 10 year anniversary.

3:34LeeThat's why we planned it like this.

3:36ChrisIt's like we knew it, yeah.

3:38AdamNo, we just the only this is the only thing that makes me think we should keep doing the podcast is the amount of times we stumble on this shit.

3:46AdamIt makes me think that unconsciously we're doing something right.

3:51ChrisYeah.

3:53ChrisSigns.

3:54LeeUh, so yes, so we are covering Attack the Block.

3:58LeeUh, but before we get into that,

4:01LeeChris, have you watched anything horror related or adjacent?

4:06ChrisWe are getting so close, surely so close to finishing the MCU, so close.

4:12ChrisAnd yet, somehow, still so far.

4:15ChrisBut yeah, so we're at Ant-Man and the Wasp.

4:17ChrisWhich was good.

4:18ChrisI think it's still funny, um, you know, entertaining.

4:22ChrisUm, maybe I don't know if it was as good as the first Ant-Man,

4:24Chrisbut that was so unexpectedly good that, you know, it's hard to live up to that.

4:30ChrisAnd then, so we finished that and we're now onto.

4:33ChrisAnd this is where it feels like, you know, we're getting up to date.

4:36ChrisUh, Avengers Infinity War.

4:38ChrisWhich is great because we've now got Guardians of the Galaxy back in it.

4:42ChrisAnd it's quite funny.

4:43ChrisWith, um, uh, when, when what's his, the captain, no, it's not the captain, it's Thor, uh, lands on their ship and then, you know, it's it's quite entertaining between.

4:56Christhe the two groups.

4:58ChrisUm, so yeah, you know, it's it's good, really.

5:00ChrisIt's very entertaining.

5:03LeeUm,

5:04AdamYou must be on the final leg now.

5:06ChrisWell, so it's this and then End Game.

5:08ChrisIt looks like.

5:09ChrisUnless something else does get released.

5:12ChrisBlack Widow.

5:14ChrisWe would have then been one ahead of Black Widow, apparently.

5:17ChrisBut it says not out yet.

5:18Chris2021 movie, so I don't know when they release.

5:20LeeI think it was supposed to come out during during obviously the pandemic, so it's been held back.

5:25LeeUm, but I was thinking during the week, actually.

5:29LeeUm, because I'm furlowed, I've got very little else to do than sit around and just ponder random shit.

5:32LeeUm, but one of the things I was thinking was, um, we've talked about, um, uh, Black Panther, and, uh, and Adam was saying that he enjoyed it.

5:44LeeAnd I was saying, I felt because they'd taken the comedy out, it lost a lot.

5:48AdamI've not seen it.

5:49LeeOh, you've not seen.

5:50LeeOh, okay.

5:50AdamNo, no, I think it was where Chris Chris enjoys.

5:52ChrisOh, was it Wes that he liked it?

5:53ChrisI think.

5:54AdamIt may actually, yes.

5:56LeeUm, but I was thinking when I said about him taking the comedy out and that was what had affected it for me quite a lot.

6:01LeeBut when I thought back during the week, actually, I think what happened was the original ones had some comedy, but not.

6:06LeeI mean like Iron Man had a lot, but other than that, I think they they only had a smaller amount.

6:11LeeAnd then it was the Avengers and Guardians that were particularly funny.

6:15LeeAnd then when you went back,

6:16ChrisGuardians especially.

6:18ChrisAnd Thor Ragnarok as well, I would say, but then it's a bit less.

6:21LeeExactly.

6:21LeeAnd now it's gone back to how it was, it felt like they'd stripped all the comedy out, so actually, it's they're probably as much in there as there was in the the Thor films and stuff.

6:27LeeBut because I'd been given that little bump of comedy in the middle, it felt like it was starved of comedy.

6:33LeeSo I would just like to correct myself because uh, yeah.

6:38LeeI was just having a ponder about them and that was a decision I came up with.

6:43AdamBecause I think it's where Josh Weeden comes in on the on the Avengers films.

6:47AdamAnd he obviously does tend to be, um, you know, he he tends to have that sort of like snappy sort of comedy thing.

6:57AdamUh, going on.

6:59AdamUh, who's also apparently an atrocious bully and misogynist as well.

7:04ChrisYes, I did hear that.

7:05ChrisYeah.

7:06AdamYeah.

7:06LeeOh.

7:07AdamWhich seems which seems a shame considering that he created Buffy, which is like one of the most sort of like,

7:16ChrisIt's quite progressive at the time, I suppose.

7:18AdamYeah.

7:18AdamBut yeah, apparently yeah, just like everyone else in Hollywood, he's just a bit of a fucking fat weirdo.

7:25AdamSo,

7:26LeeOh.

7:28AdamYeah.

7:28AdamIt was a shame.

7:30AdamI said,

7:32AdamFuck off, I'm not having us cancelled.

7:35AdamNot before 200 episodes.

7:36AdamCome on.

7:38LeeUm,

7:38Leeso Chris, are you catching up on that, did you catch up on anything else or is that is that it?

7:41ChrisWe're all of our

7:41Chrisall of our spare time is spent working our way through those.

7:45LeeIt's a good use of time.

7:46ChrisNot not many to go.

7:48LeeAdam, what have you been up to, I wonder?

7:51AdamI was having a ponder and I couldn't really think of much.

7:53AdamUm, I've started watching, I'm a bit late on this one.

7:59AdamUh, I've started watching Devs.

8:02AdamUm, which is, um, sci-fi, uh, TV show like eight part series from, uh, Alex Garland, who did, who who wrote 28 Days Later,

8:16Adambut also then did Ex Machina and Annihilation.

8:21AdamSo he's doing quite a lot of thought but it's basically,

8:24Adamsort of, well, the most reassuring thing I can think about this is that everyone who I heard talking about Devs couldn't describe it.

8:37AdamAnd I kind of see that now.

8:40AdamHaving started watching it, I'm like, yeah, I'm not entirely sure.

8:45AdamI I can see there's a a story happening.

8:49AdamBut equally, I'm not entirely sure what direction it's going in.

8:53ChrisMmm.

8:54AdamUm,

8:55Adambut it's, you know, so so far so interesting.

8:57AdamBut it's definitely it's all to do with, um, quantum computing.

9:03AdamAnd, um,

9:04ChrisThat sounds great.

9:05AdamIt's it's I think, to tell you the truth, Chris, I think you I think you'll probably dig it because it's really, um, really good, really sort of like smart sci-fi.

9:15AdamBut it's one of those also one of those ones that keeps, um, kicking you in the teeth every sort of like 15 minutes.

9:22AdamLike you'll be watching it.

9:23AdamIt's like, oh, so they've done that and it's like, oh, no, that was that wasn't happening, that was like that wasn't what that person's motivation was, they were pretending.

9:33ChrisThat's interesting.

9:34AdamOr, you know, it's one of those ones where at various points you'll never quite sure if you're.

9:41ChrisThat does remind me of Ex Machina, which was fantastic.

9:44LeeYes, that was a good film.

9:46ChrisAnd in fact, that does spill over into horror.

9:49LeeReally?

9:50AdamOh, definitely.

9:51AdamI mean, I'd love to cover Annihilation on the show at some point, because again, I think that really.

9:56AdamBecause Alex Garland, it's the weird thing when he because obviously he wrote, um, the Beach, um, like the book of the Beach.

10:05AdamAnd it was only when Danny Boyle did that and then got him to write 28 Days Later.

10:13AdamAnd basically, yeah, Alex Garland completely changed his career and it was like, oh, I'm going to be a novelist, and then it suddenly, oh, no, I'm actually probably one of the best sci-fi writers and directors of the last 10 years.

10:28AdamSo I'll just bash that out in between like Leonardo DiCaprio pissing off a lot of people in Bali.

10:36AdamSo, yeah.

10:38AdamUm,

10:39Adambut yeah, so I've started watching that, but I will I will report further.

10:43AdamOr at least just give you a yes or no.

10:45AdamBut so far I'm I'm sticking with it, I'm going to watch watch more of it and just catch up when I can.

10:51AdamUm,

10:52Adamother than that, the only thing that I have the only thing I've watched and I don't know if you have, Lee, is obviously there's a new series of Inside Number 9.

10:59LeeI've

11:00Leenot, I'm waiting, but I am very much going to be, uh, getting involved in that ASAP, really.

11:04AdamYeah.

11:05AdamI won't go I won't go too into detail with it, it's basically.

11:10AdamThe the one thing that I found with it was, I watched it and I watched it and enjoyed it.

11:17AdamAnd then the BBC do a BBC Sounds do a podcast called inside Inside Number 9.

11:24LeeThat's right.

11:25AdamSteve and Reese talking about and they've actually done some classic episodes now, I think, because they were heading towards doing series six.

11:35AdamUm, so they've done 12 Days of Christine, uh, Quiet Night In and the, uh, Riddle of the Sphinx.

11:43AdamThey've done those three.

11:45LeeThe Riddle of the Sphinx is still one of the best pieces of TV, I think, I've ever seen.

11:49AdamOh, yeah.

11:50AdamI mean, I mean, they're all they're all pretty terrific.

11:53AdamI mean, it's it's also interesting listening to that to hear Reese talking about the 12 Days of Christine, where he's obviously just a bit like, yeah, but it wasn't horrible, was it?

12:07AdamQuite nice.

12:09AdamDon't tell people that's your favorite.

12:10AdamDon't make it the favorite.

12:11AdamAnd.

12:14AdamHe's sort of like, I think anyone else it's like sort of like, well, you've made this like genuinely moving Bafta winning piece of TV.

12:22AdamAnd I think Reese is like, yeah, but it's not a scary one or a funny one, is it?

12:27AdamThat's what it should be, that's what they should like.

12:29LeeSee, I agree with him on that.

12:31LeeThey're my favorite, I don't like the depressing ones or the thought provoking ones, I like the comedy and the horror.

12:38AdamI mean, for me, I still Elizabeth Gadj is probably my favorite, the trial of Elizabeth Gadj.

12:43AdamLike the Witchfinder one, I just fucking adore that.

12:46AdamBut,

12:47Adamum, but yeah.

12:49AdamAnd and but I kind of it's it's a weird one because the episode that was on the other day, it was only by listening to Inside Inside Number 9, where they kind of explained what it's based on.

13:08AdamUh, because it's basically, without getting too highfalutin, um, it's based on the, uh, uh,

13:15AdamCommedia dell'Arte, which is basically the sort of strolling players from the 15 and 1600s.

13:21AdamAnd they would have like this basically they had this sort of archetype setup.

13:27AdamWhere you had so many characters and that character always fulfills that role.

13:34AdamSo your comedy troop would kind of put on the plays and they may be similar or kind of similar stories or whatever like that.

13:40AdamBut much more to the point is you have archetypes in there like you have the, um,

13:47Adamcowardly, vainglorious military guy or you have the Harlequin or things like that.

13:54AdamAnd actually, yeah, having then having watched the episode and then heard them talking about it's like, ah, so that's what you're doing.

14:03LeeYeah.

14:04AdamBut it was just yeah, it's just something that I've never, you know, I've never studied or, um, I've heard the term.

14:11AdamBut I've never known anything more about it.

14:13AdamSo it's one of those ones because they do sort of like, I think, uh, there is a thing in there where they're like, well, it's one for the.

14:21AdamIt's one for the theater students.

14:27AdamSo.

14:28AdamAnd, um, yeah.

14:30AdamI mean it's like I suppose like they did with like anything.

14:33AdamIt's like with the crossword like with the riddle of the Sphinx like with the crosswords where it's they had someone come in and do like check their cryptic crosswords to see if they followed the rules of cryptic crosswords.

14:44AdamAnd, um,

14:44Adambut yeah, it's, um, but definitely definitely a, um, a bit of a bit of a weird one.

14:52AdamBut still funny and funny in just whole routines of silly fucking jokes.

15:04AdamOf of of the nature of it's not one that's in there, but very much of the nature of, uh, my wife's gone to the West Indies.

15:13LeeJamaica.

15:13AdamYeah.

15:14AdamYeah, it's very much in that like, in that sort of vein.

15:16AdamBut, um, but yeah, well worth I mean, you know, the good thing is you get a different thing every week.

15:22AdamBut yeah, it's just it's just good to have them back, really.

15:25LeeYeah, definitely.

15:27LeeExcellent, cool.

15:29LeeUm, I have been very busy since we were last together.

15:34LeeUm, so first of all, I went back, I realized that Lady Jennifer, I know, I think I think this is something that Adam and I discussed either on or off mic a couple of months ago, which reminded me of it.

15:47LeeUh, 1995's Italian horror, The Day of the Beast.

15:52AdamOh, yes.

15:53LeeI realized Jennifer had never seen it.

15:55LeeUh, because I watched it while she was at work when I borrowed it off of you, Adam, on VHS.

16:01AdamYeah.

16:02LeeUm, so we went back and rewatched it.

16:03LeeIt was the one that was I'm sure it was on a VHS with Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 and Spider Baby.

16:09AdamThat there's there was a VHS with that with those two on there, and I think the Day of the Beast was on with something was on another tape with something else.

16:14LeeAh.

16:15AdamI can't for the fucking life of me remember what it was, but yeah.

16:18AdamUm, but they're from the same batch of VHS's around that sort of time, I think, yeah.

16:24LeeUm,

16:24LeeI'd forgotten how funny this film was.

16:26LeeIt's just brilliant.

16:28LeeIt's it's just meant.

16:30LeeLike I mentioned it to Jennifer.

16:33LeeI said, oh, we just talking about this.

16:35LeeI'd like to rewatch it.

16:35LeeShe said, I don't know anything about it.

16:36LeeAnd then she read the synopsis.

16:38LeeAnd it was just like, what?

16:41LeeA priest is trying to commit crimes so that he gets to meet the devil.

16:47LeeAnd he gets a man from a black metal band and an online cultist to join.

16:58LeeUm, yeah.

16:59LeeAnd they go on a drug fueled rampage.

17:01AdamYeah.

17:02AdamThey have to they have to find they have to find the Antichrist.

17:08AdamIt's

17:09AdamAnd not only that, but also because I think, I think when, um, we did our, uh, Christmas crossover with, uh, the not for everyone, uh, boys.

17:24LeeYeah.

17:24ChrisMmm.

17:25AdamUm, and we were like sort of Christmas films and everything else like that, and just afterwards, I just had that fucking thing where it's like and I do I've done it with both of the ones.

17:39AdamWe've done the crossover where it's like afterwards, like just stopping in the middle of the street going,

17:43AdamOh, for fuck sake, I should have said that.

17:46AdamYou know.

17:46AdamAnd this was definitely one of them, where it's like because it's at Christmas.

17:50LeeYeah.

17:51LeeWhat could be more Christmas?

17:52AdamYou know.

17:53LeeOh, it's Christmas.

17:54AdamYeah.

17:55AdamSo,

17:56Adamit's, um, yeah, but it's I mean, we should we'll have to cover it at some point.

18:01AdamBecause it's just we'll do it as our Christmas film this year or something, I don't know.

18:06LeeThat's a great idea.

18:07LeeYeah, I'd be more than happy to rewatch this again because it's it's just wonderful.

18:14LeeUm,

18:15Leeso from there, I rewatched, uh, 2012's The Secret of Crickley Hall.

18:22AdamOh, yeah.

18:22LeeUh, the made for TV mini series, it was in three episodes, 50 minutes each.

18:29LeeUm,

18:32Leeand it's brilliant.

18:33LeeI I completely forgot that David Walliams is even in it.

18:37LeeUm,

18:38ChrisOh, wow.

18:39LeeBut yeah, it's it's uh, it's it's it's James Herbert.

18:44LeeI've read the book a couple of times.

18:47LeeUm,

18:48Leebut this was actually a really good adaptation of it.

18:50LeeUm,

18:52Leeyeah, traditional ghost story.

18:53LeeUh, couple have lost their.

18:55Leechild, uh, he's gone missing and it's the one-year anniversary and the husband is worried that the mother is starting to lose her marbles slightly.

19:06LeeSo he decides to take a job out in the Lake District basically.

19:10LeeAnd move them into a great big manor house and live there for a couple of months just while the year anniversary blows over to try and keep her mind occupied.

19:15LeeUm, yeah, and the house they move into used to be a, uh, an orphanage.

19:19LeeRun by a lunatic and his sister.

19:23LeeUm, yeah, and now the house is full of ghosts.

19:30LeeBut yeah, absolutely brilliant.

19:31LeeReally, really good.

19:33LeeWell worth watching.

19:34LeeUh, IMDB writes in a 6.9 to give you an idea of how good it is.

19:37LeeSo, um, yeah.

19:38LeeSecret of Crickley Hall mini series.

19:42LeeWinner, winner.

19:43LeeUh,

19:44ChrisExcellent.

19:45LeeAnd then from then, I, uh, season one of Goosebumps has just appeared on, uh, Netflix.

19:55LeeUh, I never saw it the first time round.

19:58LeeI think.

19:59AdamMe neither.

20:00LeeNo, I mean, I think it's one of those, I think like my brother and a and his friends got really into it and my cousin Bust, um, were all really into it.

20:10LeeBecause they were that couple of years younger, but I think it it came out in 95, so it came out just at that point where we were too cool to be watching kids' TV shows.

20:20ChrisYeah.

20:21LeeHey, look at me now, I'm 43 years old and I've finally gone back and started watching it.

20:25LeeUm, but yeah, I thought it was oh no, it's too it's too aimed at kids, I won't watch it and I never did, but where it's turned up on Netflix, it's actually really good.

20:34AdamI think I think that's the problem.

20:35ChrisI think the puppet looks like it's based on Jimmy Carr.

20:42ChrisIt came up, I was like, what was he doing on there?

20:45AdamI think we were at precisely the wrong age, Lee.

20:49LeeYeah.

20:50AdamBecause like, like you say, it's like, oh, I said, I'm a fucking kid.

20:55AdamLike that and it's like, you know, we were at the we were at how many killings stage.

20:59LeeExactly.

21:00AdamHow many killings?

21:01AdamNo.

21:03LeeBut I mean, it's it's really it's, you know, it.

21:06LeeI'm watching it at the moment in bed because they're like 25 minutes an episode, so as you get into bed, chuck one of those episodes on and by the time it's finished, I'm ready to turn the light out and get some sleep.

21:12LeeUm,

21:14ChrisSo you reckon it would be a good thing for for the age it's aimed at?

21:17LeeYeah, definitely.

21:18LeeI I mean, it's very it is very kid-friendly.

21:22ChrisYeah.

21:23ChrisBut still well written.

21:24LeeOh.

21:25LeeYes, oh yeah.

21:26LeeReally good.

21:28LeeUm,

21:29Leeyeah.

21:30LeeReally tongue in cheek, it feels so 90s though.

21:33LeeLike so painfully 90s the film and everything.

21:36LeeUm,

21:37Leebut yeah, I say they're really good and of course the film came out.

21:40LeeA couple of years ago, the two movies they did of Goosebumps, uh, which introduced well sort of hawked back to a lot of the characters from the TV show.

21:47LeeUm,

21:49Leeso yeah, I thought it was worth going back and watching.

21:50LeeAnd I'm glad that I did.

21:52AdamOn.

21:53AdamOn that thing of child sort of child friendly horror or scares or whatever.

22:00AdamI haven't actually started watching it yet, but I have noticed that Round the Twist has turned up on, uh,

22:04AdamI think on Amazon Prime.

22:07AdamAnd.

22:08LeeOh, my God.

22:08AdamYeah.

22:09AdamAnd that is something that I'm definitely going to have to rewatch, I think, because.

22:17AdamIt was again, it's one of those things of being, I was probably just a wee bit too old.

22:23AdamOr sort of like I would have thought I was a wee bit too old to watch it.

22:29LeeYeah.

22:30AdamBut equally, whenever I did watch it, I was like, that's fucking weird, or that's creepy.

22:36LeeYeah.

22:36AdamOr.

22:36AdamYou know what I mean?

22:37AdamIt was it was quite just a very sort of strange show in that sort of.

22:43AdamIt's.

22:44AdamIt also has that sort of lovely feeling to it where you're just like, wow, I can imagine that if you watch this at six, that would fucking that would have just stuck in your mind for years.

22:53LeeYeah.

22:54LeeYeah, exactly the same as Goosebumps.

22:56LeeYeah.

22:57AdamYeah, like living scarecrows and people with bum mouths and things like that.

23:02LeeOh, I think I need to see those as well now that you've mentioned it, I need to go back and rewatch it.

23:11LeeUm,

23:12Leeyeah, so that's all.

23:13LeeOh, and I did, uh, another Jason Buck, who I mentioned on the last episode, yes, uh, I've been and listened to two more of his readings.

23:26LeeSo one of them was the Beryl Cornet, the Sherlock Holmes story.

23:30AdamOh, yes.

23:31LeeUm, he did a reading of that.

23:33LeeAnd then my absolute favorite this week on Wednesday and Thursday over two nights for two hours each night, he read The Shadow Over Innsmouth.

23:42LeeUm,

23:42ChrisOh, nice.

23:43LeeWhich again, I didn't know Jennifer hadn't read.

23:45LeeSo she had no idea about it, so, uh, that was a a rare treat.

23:49LeeSo, uh, yeah, all good.

23:51AdamI had a I had a sudden thing when you because following so many sort of like horror accounts and stuff like that on Instagram.

23:59AdamJust flicking through and then it's just like a clip from Dagon.

24:02AdamAnd I was just like,

24:03Adamshit, I've not watched that for a very, very, very, very long time.

24:08AdamTo the point of almost thinking, did I even remember that film existed?

24:13AdamI think I might have actually just forgotten.

24:14LeeYeah.

24:15LeeWe we're definitely going to rewatch it.

24:16LeeAs I, we would have watched it last night if we didn't have to watch the tech the block for this evening, so, uh.

24:22LeeDagon is very much on the list.

24:25ChrisWas that a little hint, didn't have to watch.

24:30LeeNo, no, it wasn't.

24:31LeeNo, well, maybe, well, I don't know.

24:35LeeLet's get into it and let's discuss it.

24:36LeeSo, uh, yes.

24:37LeeAs we mentioned, we are covering, uh, Attack the Block from 2011.

24:43LeeA film that Adam had seen.

24:44LeeI had never seen, I'd watched the first 10 minutes.

24:47LeeAnd set it off.

24:51LeeUm, yeah, and Chris was keen to see what it was like.

24:55LeeSo Chris, what did you make of Attack the Block?

24:57ChrisWell, as you can see from my background, uh, if if I only took away the awesome teeth glowing as they do, a raver's nightmare.

25:08ChrisLook at those, look at those wonderful glowing things.

25:13ChrisAh, it's killing me, but they're still glowing really nice.

25:16ChrisYou know, like that that's quite a unique aspect to the film.

25:18LeeYeah.

25:19Adamdefinitely the monsters, yeah.

25:21AdamI I do I do think they're um, very well executed.

25:27LeeI was backwards and forwards, I couldn't part of me was like, oh, it's really lazy, it's just a black shaggy outfit with somebody running in it and then part of me was like, yeah, but I did like the idea of it being so black that they were like, I've never seen anything that dark before.

25:43LeeSo I was like, it's kind of cool, but then the other part was like, it's a bit of a cop out, really, but yeah.

25:49AdamI.

25:50AdamI I think also because the because when I was reading about it, Joe I think Joe Cornish said it was, um, the ring rates in the animated Lord of the Rings, like the batch in Lord of the Rings.

26:08ChrisYeah.

26:08AdamUm, but also and this is one where I had to Google it because I was like, what does he mean?

26:16AdamUm, the original arcade cabinet for Space Invaders.

26:22ChrisYeah.

26:23LeeYes.

26:23LeeYeah.

26:24AdamAnd it's got that sort of like fuzzy, shaggy sort of outline where it's just a set of eyes.

26:29AdamAnd, um, yeah.

26:31AdamAnd I.

26:31AdamBut I think I think the good thing is is that they they kind of make a virtue of the fact that they don't have.

26:40Adamsort of concentrate on the monsters that much.

26:41LeeYeah.

26:42AdamWhere it's like, right, so the monsters are there and they're doing their thing.

26:45AdamAnd that's it.

26:46AdamThey don't have like, you know, if if this was if this was 19 1982 in Antarctica, there'd be an autopsy sequence or something like that.

26:54AdamBut they just.

26:55AdamThey just get on with it, where it's like, right, it's monsters run.

27:01ChrisYeah.

27:04AdamI like.

27:05AdamI like them when they're when they're peering in through the window, though.

27:10AdamAnd you can just see the because it's the weird because the teeth look like eyes at first.

27:15LeeYeah.

27:15AdamUntil the mouth opens.

27:17AdamAnd I quite like that, especially because people are just it's that thing of people peering to try and get a grasp on what it looks like.

27:08ChrisYeah.

27:10ChrisYeah.

27:10ChrisYeah.

27:10ChrisYeah.

27:24ChrisBut yeah, no, I I thought it was it was entertaining.

27:30ChrisUm,

27:30ChrisI was pleased to see John John Boyega.

27:33ChrisUm.

27:35Chrisbecause obviously we're going to be watching him again soon and I hadn't seen him in anything else.

27:42ChrisSo, yeah, he was completely unknown to me when I saw the Force Awakens.

27:45ChrisAnd so.

27:47ChrisI don't know.

27:48AdamThis this was his first film.

27:50ChrisIt was, okay.

27:51ChrisSo this was 2011.

27:53ChrisUm, I'm trying to remember now, Force Awakens.

27:55ChrisThat was probably a few years ago now.

27:56ChrisThis is kind of worrying.

27:57AdamBut 2015, I think.

27:59Chris15.

27:59ChrisMmm, okay.

28:00AdamBecause I'm pretty sure yeah, because it came because we had that then it Rogue One.

28:04ChrisMmm.

28:05AdamAnd I think Rogue One's 2016 because they were sort of doing.

28:08ChrisOkay.

28:09AdamThey were sort of alternating saga versus spin-off stuff.

28:13ChrisThat's right.

28:14ChrisYeah.

28:14AdamSo yeah, so I think it's.

28:15AdamI think it's 2015.

28:19ChrisMmm.

28:19ChrisOkay.

28:20AdamSo it was only only a few years old.

28:21AdamI mean.

28:22AdamThis this is the the curious thing about Attack the Block is that it does predict English sci-fi for the next fucking decade.

28:30AdamBecause you've got like John Boyega, who obviously is one of the sort of.

28:33AdamWell, certainly certainly the Force Awakens is one of the major stars of the series.

28:39ChrisYeah.

28:40AdamYeah.

28:41AdamAnd one of the only non-Jedi characters to ever wield a lightsaber.

28:48LeeIndeed.

28:48AdamUm, and obviously Jodie Whittaker who is now the doctor.

28:52AdamIn Dr.

28:52LeeWho.

28:53AdamIn Dr. Who.

28:54AdamAnd the but the weird thing is is.

28:56ChrisOh, wait, so

28:57Chriswait, she must be the first female doctor then.

28:59AdamShe is the first female doctor.

29:00AdamAnd that's the that's the weird thing is a lot of the time as a Doctor Who fan.

29:04AdamYou watch stuff and there'll be a performance in it or something like that where you're like,

29:11Adamoh, that person would make quite a good doctor or whatever like that.

29:15AdamAnd but I remember sort of like looking back now, when I watched this, that wasn't a thing.

29:21AdamThere was no sort of, you know, there wasn't a you didn't even have.

29:27AdamBecause obviously because in they they change they changed the the master first.

29:30AdamFirst came back as a woman.

29:32ChrisMmm.

29:33ChrisBut does that mean the assistant became a man?

29:35AdamUh.

29:36AdamNo.

29:36AdamJodie Whittaker's got three assistants.

29:40AdamOne of whom is Bradley Walsh.

29:41AdamAnd he's frankly fucking brilliant.

29:43ChrisYeah.

29:44AdamHe really, really is.

29:47AdamAnd it's still.

29:48AdamBut, um,

29:49Adambut they've they've they have done it.

29:52AdamIn a couple of episodes where people who know the doctor have turned up and assumed that Bradley Walsh is the doctor.

29:56ChrisThat's right.

29:56ChrisYeah.

29:56AdamBecause they didn't.

29:58AdamBut similarly,

29:58Adamyou know, I'm I'm looking back at this now and it's like, there was no way in my brain that I would have been like.

30:05AdamOh, that Jodie Whittaker would have made a very good doctor because it's just not.

30:09AdamYou know, 10 years ago there was definitely not a thing where it's like, oh yeah, well, obviously anyone could, you know, any gender can play the doctor.

30:20AdamAlthough that has opened it up now.

30:22AdamBecause at the moment my, um, mostly due to my own obsession anyway, but I think that fucking I always thought Maxine Peak would be a fucking great doctor.

30:28AdamBut now, the trouble is, it does mean that everything is laid wide open.

30:32AdamWhere you can just watch stuff and it's like, oh, that doctor's very good.

30:36LeeYeah.

30:37AdamYou know.

30:38AdamMaybe he could be the doctor.

30:39AdamI don't know.

30:40AdamSo.

30:41AdamBecause if because I mean, I suppose if I was if I was taking anything from this, it would have probably been, you know, I would have thought, oh, maybe John Boyega or something like that.

30:58AdamBut yeah, so it's.

31:00Adamquite an interesting.

31:02AdamUh, thing when, you know, that.

31:05AdamEspecially because I mean, I don't think Jodie Whittaker had done that much then because she did she the reason she got the reason she got the part of the doctor is she did, uh, Broadchurch.

31:16AdamAnd the guy who's producing Doctor Who now or show running Doctor Who now,

31:20Adamum, created Broadchurch, like the ITV crime series.

31:24AdamAnd, um,

31:26Adamyeah, so that's that's the reason that's like the main reason that she's she got cast as the doctor.

31:30AdamBut yeah, so it's just a very weird sort of.

31:34Adamthing there.

31:34AdamAnd obviously you've got Nick Frost who.

31:36ChrisYeah.

31:37Adamwho.

31:38AdamI mean, he was a very good Santa Claus in Doctor Who, it has to be said.

31:41AdamSo.

31:43LeeUh,

31:43LeeI was just looking.

31:45LeeI'd forgotten, yeah, so, uh, she was also in Marchlands, which I'd forgotten about entirely.

31:47LeeNow that's a fantastic supernatural mini series.

31:50LeeOh no, it's a full series, I think.

31:50LeeFive episodes.

31:51LeeUm,

31:53Leeyeah, that's outstanding.

31:55LeeI'd forgotten she was in that as well.

31:56ChrisMmm.

31:57LeeBut yeah.

31:58LeeI think you're right, I think the takeaway thing from this film, uh, although I I took very little away from it, what I did take away was at least John Boyega got out there and got seen and then at least it was a stepping stone for him to be in Star Wars, because he's fantastic in Star Wars.

32:12AdamYeah.

32:13LeeI mean,

32:14AdamI thought.

32:14AdamI thought he was good in this.

32:15LeeHe is great in this.

32:16LeeBecause I.

32:16AdamHe is great in this.

32:17AdamBecause I I I think he does manage to be, um,

32:21Adambecause I mean that that the whole sort of opening sequence.

32:25AdamAnd I know that this is I know because, um,

32:27Adamme and Lee were talking beforehand and I know that the main, um, or one of the main issues that Lee has with it is obviously is you've got characters who start off doing something horrible.

32:35ChrisYeah.

32:37AdamAnd I think the film doesn't the film doesn't really pull away from it, it never tries to sort of say that that was anything other than horrible. Um, and but I think that that's I think that's the thing is because and interestingly enough, this is something that I was like reading about and I don't and this I don't think this is where I certainly don't think this is where you are, Lee, but there was a thing where they said like when it came out because we were talking to, um, Bobby from not for everyone who really likes who loves attack the block, and it's got like a weird it has like quite an unusually for what you'd think is a very English centric film, has quite a following in the states, but but the interesting thing was is that it sort of it did kind of tank over here.

33:25AdamIt wasn't like a big smash or anything else like that.

33:26AdamI mean, half of that, I think is a lot of people were like, oh, it's just like Sean of the Dead, no, it's fucking not.

33:32AdamIt's different, it's funny.

33:34LeeIt's not.

33:34AdamYeah.

33:35AdamBut it's a totally different thing.

33:36AdamThis is more like Assault on Precinct 13 or something like that.

33:41AdamYou know.

33:42AdamIt's an action film with funny bits, not a comedy action film.

33:44ChrisI I I I'd say the more entertaining lines, it's not not not comedy.

33:49AdamYeah.

33:49AdamIt's not gag.

33:50LeeAnd that was the thing.

33:50LeeLike I only got two legitimate laughs for the entire film.

33:52LeeSo.

33:53ChrisBut I I was constantly amused by it.

33:54ChrisRather than, yeah, just the unfolding of the story.

33:57LeeThat's true.

33:57LeeI don't.

33:58LeeI don't I have to be on somebody's side.

34:01AdamI I'd say it's the more entertaining lines.

34:05AdamNot not.

34:05LeeOh, they just fo.

34:06ChrisYou had it with Psycho Gorman as well.

34:08LeeI have I have to like the characters enough to care what happens to them.

34:09LeeOr.

34:10ChrisI suppose it's the opposite, right, like um, Shaun of the Dead, everyone had high expectations but didn't really think it would necessarily be as great as it managed to be.

34:14LeeOh, I still.

34:15LeeI just yeah, I didn't get that.

34:17LeeNo, you're not.

34:18AdamYou're not.

34:18AdamYou're not.

34:19AdamYou're not.

34:19AdamAnd I think again, I think that's the thing, I think people as I think you're quite right, I think people saw Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz and then saw this come out and were like, right, this is the next big comedy and as Adam said, it is actually not a big it with some funny scenes in it, or it's funny lines, but ultimately, if you're going in expecting Hot Fuzz and just like wall to wall nonsense and hilarity, that's not what you're going to get. You're going to come away with flat.

35:09LeeNo.

35:10LeeNo.

35:10ChrisIn comparison, no.

35:11LeeYou're not going to get it.

35:13AdamYou're going to get far more, well, weirdly enough, I think also you're just going to get a far more realistic portrayal of,

35:14Adamuh,

35:15Adamof people.

35:15AdamThey're not really characters, they are actually they're characters in the sense of they're fictional.

35:17AdamBut they're not like played to a time to a sort of thing.

35:21AdamOr I think I've just rambled now.

35:23LeeNo, no.

35:23ChrisI may have had a stroke.

35:24AdamI may.

35:25AdamI may.

35:25ChrisI may have had a stroke.

35:27AdamI may have had a stroke.

35:28AdamBut that's only because.

35:29ChrisClaire could reach.

35:30AdamNo.

35:31AdamYeah.

35:32ChrisThey didn't they didn't have many jokes like that.

35:34AdamExactly.

35:35AdamYou know, and and that is clearly box office gold, which is why I, you know, that is that is why they get me in as a script doctor.

35:42AdamUm,

35:42Adamor was it a rug doctor?

35:43AdamI can't remember.

35:44AdamIt was one, one or the other.

35:45AdamInvolved a lot of foam, I know that.

35:47AdamRight.

35:47LeeSo, uh, let's wrap it up there.

35:51LeeSo, uh, don't forget everybody, next week, uh, the gentleman will be back with Wes.

35:57LeeAnd what will you be covering next week?

35:59AdamWe should be covering Star Wars episode 7, The Force Awakens, starring a little known guy called John Boyega.

36:09AdamKeep an eye out for that guy.

36:11AdamBecause I think big things are in the pipeline.

36:13AdamI don't mean he's having a shit.

36:16LeeUm,

36:17Leeexcellent, and the following week, the three of us will be back.

36:22LeeFor my birthday selection this time, when we will be covering The Wolf of Snow Hollow.

36:25LeeOh, I'm very excited to see this for the fourth time in about six months.

36:29LeeBecause it's bloody brilliant.

36:32AdamSo I.

36:33AdamI.

36:33AdamI've built this up a lot.

36:36LeeWell, yeah.

36:37LeeDon't don't let me overhype it.

36:41AdamWell, what what what as long as we won't be able to say that we've seen the graphic everywhere.

36:44LeeYou're not.

36:45AdamYou're not.

36:46AdamYeah.

36:47AdamYou haven't attacked our block with it.

36:49AdamBut.

36:49AdamNo, I'm I'm looking forward to this because it's one of those ones that's just sort of cropped up in the periphery.

36:52AdamWhen I've been reading about like films coming out and stuff like that, that's one that's always got mentioned.

36:57AdamAnd then not really heard actually much about it.

36:59AdamSo.

36:59AdamYeah, I'm looking forward to this.

37:01AdamYeah.

37:01LeeI'm keen to see what you what you both make of it.

37:04LeeUm,

37:05Leeexcellent.

37:06LeeSo, thank you ever so much for listening, everybody, uh, don't forget to come back next week for Mos Eisley and the following week for Welcome to Horror again.

37:16LeeUh, don't I'm saying I'm slurring my words, I'm not even drinking.

37:20LeeUh, don't forget to check out the, uh, not for everyone podcast.

37:25LeeAdam has got his hand up in the air.

37:28AdamUh, I was also just going to remind people that we have coming up as yet unknown from uh, Wes and Mosley's background, which should be coming out.

37:35AdamBy the time this goes out, I think it should be coming out the following week.

37:38AdamSo,

37:38Adamyeah, just find them through our Instagram, subscribe and uh, you'll be kept updated on that one.

37:44LeeI'm very excited about that.

37:46LeeI Wes has always been, I've known Wes since school and that was used to be our math lessons was.

37:52LeeWe'd get into math, we would they'd give us like a test or whatever.

37:54LeeWes and I were quite good at it, so we'd smash out the whole lessons test in 15 minutes and then sit and talk about ghost and UFOs for the rest of the lesson.

38:01LeeSo I'm very keen to hear what he's he's boiled down to his top six.

38:05AdamI think he will have done his homework for it, certainly.

38:09LeeYeah.

38:10AdamDon't don't let me over hype it.

38:11LeeUh.

38:12LeeUh.

38:13AdamWell, what what what as long as we won't be able to say that we've seen the graphic everywhere.

38:17LeeYou're not.

38:18AdamYou're not you haven't attacked our block with it.

38:20AdamBut no, I'm I'm looking forward to this.

38:22AdamBecause it's one of those ones that's just sort of cropped up in the periphery when I've been reading about like films coming out and stuff like that.

38:28AdamThat's one that's always got mentioned.

38:30AdamAnd then not really heard actually much about it.

38:32AdamSo, yeah, I'm looking forward to this.

38:33AdamYeah.

38:34LeeI'm keen to see what you what you both make of it.

38:36LeeUm,

38:37Leeexcellent.

38:38LeeRight, yes, so go and check out all that good stuff.

38:41LeeAnd we will see you all back here in a fortnight's time for The Wolf of Snow Hollow.

38:48LeeThanks very much, good night.

38:53AdamGood night.