Attack the Block

0:22 Lee Good evening and welcome to Horror, I'm Lee.

0:25 Chris I'm Chris.

0:26 Adam And I'm Adam.

0:28 Lee Yes, and we're here yet again for episode 130 I have no idea.

0:36 Adam I think we're 118th.

0:40 Chris Yes.

0:40 Lee I think you're right.

0:40 Lee I don't even know why I mentioned the number.

0:43 Lee I've literally never done that before apart from on like, you know, important episodes. So,

0:48 Chris Yeah.

0:49 Lee I should have thought about that.

0:50 Chris Every episode's important.

0:52 Lee You're quite right.

0:53 Lee It's almost as if I don't think about this until I switch the mic on and then I suddenly go, oh shit, what am I going to say?

0:59 Lee And I've been doing this for three years and I'm still hanging by the seat of my pants. Um,

1:44 Lee but that's all right, because it's a special celebration because we are here for the birthday of our very own special slave Chris.

1:53 Chris Oh.

1:54 Chris Do I get do I get like special walkies?

1:57 Chris You know.

1:58 Adam You get you get special walkies and we're finally going to change your bucket.

2:02 Chris We.

2:05 Chris So that was the best thing about it, the the disgusting

2:12 Adam Just looking just looking into it and seeing all the patterns that emerge after three sleepless nights and lack of food hallucinations.

2:20 Chris Mmm.

2:23 Lee Speaking of which, that's bit what this film felt like.

2:25 Lee Um, so we are here to watch Chris's choice this week of Attack the Block from 2011.

2:34 Lee Um,

2:35 Lee but before

2:36 Adam In actual fact, in actual fact,

2:39 Adam this month, I think we're recording this on the 15th, um, it 15th of May, it debuted in its premiere was the 13th.

3:30 Lee Oh!

3:31 Adam So it's the this month is the 10 year anniversary.

3:34 Lee That's why we planned it like this.

3:36 Chris It's like we knew it, yeah.

3:38 Adam No, we just the only this is the only thing that makes me think we should keep doing the podcast is the amount of times we stumble on this shit.

3:46 Adam It makes me think that unconsciously we're doing something right.

3:51 Chris Yeah.

3:53 Chris Signs.

3:54 Lee Uh, so yes, so we are covering Attack the Block.

3:58 Lee Uh, but before we get into that,

4:01 Lee Chris, have you watched anything horror related or adjacent?

4:06 Chris We are getting so close, surely so close to finishing the MCU, so close.

4:12 Chris And yet, somehow, still so far.

4:15 Chris But yeah, so we're at Ant-Man and the Wasp.

4:17 Chris Which was good.

4:18 Chris I think it's still funny, um, you know, entertaining.

4:22 Chris Um, maybe I don't know if it was as good as the first Ant-Man,

4:24 Chris but that was so unexpectedly good that, you know, it's hard to live up to that.

4:30 Chris And then, so we finished that and we're now onto.

4:33 Chris And this is where it feels like, you know, we're getting up to date.

4:36 Chris Uh, Avengers Infinity War.

4:38 Chris Which is great because we've now got Guardians of the Galaxy back in it.

4:42 Chris And it's quite funny.

4:43 Chris With, um, uh, when, when what's his, the captain, no, it's not the captain, it's Thor, uh, lands on their ship and then, you know, it's it's quite entertaining between.

4:56 Chris the the two groups.

4:58 Chris Um, so yeah, you know, it's it's good, really.

5:00 Chris It's very entertaining.

5:03 Lee Um,

5:04 Adam You must be on the final leg now.

5:06 Chris Well, so it's this and then End Game.

5:08 Chris It looks like.

5:09 Chris Unless something else does get released.

5:12 Chris Black Widow.

5:14 Chris We would have then been one ahead of Black Widow, apparently.

5:17 Chris But it says not out yet.

5:18 Chris 2021 movie, so I don't know when they release.

5:20 Lee I think it was supposed to come out during during obviously the pandemic, so it's been held back.

5:25 Lee Um, but I was thinking during the week, actually.

5:29 Lee Um, because I'm furlowed, I've got very little else to do than sit around and just ponder random shit.

5:32 Lee Um, but one of the things I was thinking was, um, we've talked about, um, uh, Black Panther, and, uh, and Adam was saying that he enjoyed it.

5:44 Lee And I was saying, I felt because they'd taken the comedy out, it lost a lot.

5:48 Adam I've not seen it.

5:49 Lee Oh, you've not seen.

5:50 Lee Oh, okay.

5:50 Adam No, no, I think it was where Chris Chris enjoys.

5:52 Chris Oh, was it Wes that he liked it?

5:53 Chris I think.

5:54 Adam It may actually, yes.

5:56 Lee Um, but I was thinking when I said about him taking the comedy out and that was what had affected it for me quite a lot.

6:01 Lee But when I thought back during the week, actually, I think what happened was the original ones had some comedy, but not.

6:06 Lee I mean like Iron Man had a lot, but other than that, I think they they only had a smaller amount.

6:11 Lee And then it was the Avengers and Guardians that were particularly funny.

6:15 Lee And then when you went back,

6:16 Chris Guardians especially.

6:18 Chris And Thor Ragnarok as well, I would say, but then it's a bit less.

6:21 Lee Exactly.

6:21 Lee And now it's gone back to how it was, it felt like they'd stripped all the comedy out, so actually, it's they're probably as much in there as there was in the the Thor films and stuff.

6:27 Lee But because I'd been given that little bump of comedy in the middle, it felt like it was starved of comedy.

6:33 Lee So I would just like to correct myself because uh, yeah.

6:38 Lee I was just having a ponder about them and that was a decision I came up with.

6:43 Adam Because I think it's where Josh Weeden comes in on the on the Avengers films.

6:47 Adam And he obviously does tend to be, um, you know, he he tends to have that sort of like snappy sort of comedy thing.

6:57 Adam Uh, going on.

6:59 Adam Uh, who's also apparently an atrocious bully and misogynist as well.

7:04 Chris Yes, I did hear that.

7:05 Chris Yeah.

7:06 Adam Yeah.

7:06 Lee Oh.

7:07 Adam Which seems which seems a shame considering that he created Buffy, which is like one of the most sort of like,

7:16 Chris It's quite progressive at the time, I suppose.

7:18 Adam Yeah.

7:18 Adam But yeah, apparently yeah, just like everyone else in Hollywood, he's just a bit of a fucking fat weirdo.

7:25 Adam So,

7:26 Lee Oh.

7:28 Adam Yeah.

7:28 Adam It was a shame.

7:30 Adam I said,

7:32 Adam Fuck off, I'm not having us cancelled.

7:35 Adam Not before 200 episodes.

7:36 Adam Come on.

7:38 Lee Um,

7:38 Lee so Chris, are you catching up on that, did you catch up on anything else or is that is that it?

7:41 Chris We're all of our

7:41 Chris all of our spare time is spent working our way through those.

7:45 Lee It's a good use of time.

7:46 Chris Not not many to go.

7:48 Lee Adam, what have you been up to, I wonder?

7:51 Adam I was having a ponder and I couldn't really think of much.

7:53 Adam Um, I've started watching, I'm a bit late on this one.

7:59 Adam Uh, I've started watching Devs.

8:02 Adam Um, which is, um, sci-fi, uh, TV show like eight part series from, uh, Alex Garland, who did, who who wrote 28 Days Later,

8:16 Adam but also then did Ex Machina and Annihilation.

8:21 Adam So he's doing quite a lot of thought but it's basically,

8:24 Adam sort of, well, the most reassuring thing I can think about this is that everyone who I heard talking about Devs couldn't describe it.

8:37 Adam And I kind of see that now.

8:40 Adam Having started watching it, I'm like, yeah, I'm not entirely sure.

8:45 Adam I I can see there's a a story happening.

8:49 Adam But equally, I'm not entirely sure what direction it's going in.

8:53 Chris Mmm.

8:54 Adam Um,

8:55 Adam but it's, you know, so so far so interesting.

8:57 Adam But it's definitely it's all to do with, um, quantum computing.

9:03 Adam And, um,

9:04 Chris That sounds great.

9:05 Adam It's it's I think, to tell you the truth, Chris, I think you I think you'll probably dig it because it's really, um, really good, really sort of like smart sci-fi.

9:15 Adam But it's one of those also one of those ones that keeps, um, kicking you in the teeth every sort of like 15 minutes.

9:22 Adam Like you'll be watching it.

9:23 Adam It's like, oh, so they've done that and it's like, oh, no, that was that wasn't happening, that was like that wasn't what that person's motivation was, they were pretending.

9:33 Chris That's interesting.

9:34 Adam Or, you know, it's one of those ones where at various points you'll never quite sure if you're.

9:41 Chris That does remind me of Ex Machina, which was fantastic.

9:44 Lee Yes, that was a good film.

9:46 Chris And in fact, that does spill over into horror.

9:49 Lee Really?

9:50 Adam Oh, definitely.

9:51 Adam I mean, I'd love to cover Annihilation on the show at some point, because again, I think that really.

9:56 Adam Because Alex Garland, it's the weird thing when he because obviously he wrote, um, the Beach, um, like the book of the Beach.

10:05 Adam And it was only when Danny Boyle did that and then got him to write 28 Days Later.

10:13 Adam And basically, yeah, Alex Garland completely changed his career and it was like, oh, I'm going to be a novelist, and then it suddenly, oh, no, I'm actually probably one of the best sci-fi writers and directors of the last 10 years.

10:28 Adam So I'll just bash that out in between like Leonardo DiCaprio pissing off a lot of people in Bali.

10:36 Adam So, yeah.

10:38 Adam Um,

10:39 Adam but yeah, so I've started watching that, but I will I will report further.

10:43 Adam Or at least just give you a yes or no.

10:45 Adam But so far I'm I'm sticking with it, I'm going to watch watch more of it and just catch up when I can.

10:51 Adam Um,

10:52 Adam other than that, the only thing that I have the only thing I've watched and I don't know if you have, Lee, is obviously there's a new series of Inside Number 9.

10:59 Lee I've

11:00 Lee not, I'm waiting, but I am very much going to be, uh, getting involved in that ASAP, really.

11:04 Adam Yeah.

11:05 Adam I won't go I won't go too into detail with it, it's basically.

11:10 Adam The the one thing that I found with it was, I watched it and I watched it and enjoyed it.

11:17 Adam And then the BBC do a BBC Sounds do a podcast called inside Inside Number 9.

11:24 Lee That's right.

11:25 Adam Steve and Reese talking about and they've actually done some classic episodes now, I think, because they were heading towards doing series six.

11:35 Adam Um, so they've done 12 Days of Christine, uh, Quiet Night In and the, uh, Riddle of the Sphinx.

11:43 Adam They've done those three.

11:45 Lee The Riddle of the Sphinx is still one of the best pieces of TV, I think, I've ever seen.

11:49 Adam Oh, yeah.

11:50 Adam I mean, I mean, they're all they're all pretty terrific.

11:53 Adam I mean, it's it's also interesting listening to that to hear Reese talking about the 12 Days of Christine, where he's obviously just a bit like, yeah, but it wasn't horrible, was it?

12:07 Adam Quite nice.

12:09 Adam Don't tell people that's your favorite.

12:10 Adam Don't make it the favorite.

12:11 Adam And.

12:14 Adam He's sort of like, I think anyone else it's like sort of like, well, you've made this like genuinely moving Bafta winning piece of TV.

12:22 Adam And I think Reese is like, yeah, but it's not a scary one or a funny one, is it?

12:27 Adam That's what it should be, that's what they should like.

12:29 Lee See, I agree with him on that.

12:31 Lee They're my favorite, I don't like the depressing ones or the thought provoking ones, I like the comedy and the horror.

12:38 Adam I mean, for me, I still Elizabeth Gadj is probably my favorite, the trial of Elizabeth Gadj.

12:43 Adam Like the Witchfinder one, I just fucking adore that.

12:46 Adam But,

12:47 Adam um, but yeah.

12:49 Adam And and but I kind of it's it's a weird one because the episode that was on the other day, it was only by listening to Inside Inside Number 9, where they kind of explained what it's based on.

13:08 Adam Uh, because it's basically, without getting too highfalutin, um, it's based on the, uh, uh,

13:15 Adam Commedia dell'Arte, which is basically the sort of strolling players from the 15 and 1600s.

13:21 Adam And they would have like this basically they had this sort of archetype setup.

13:27 Adam Where you had so many characters and that character always fulfills that role.

13:34 Adam So your comedy troop would kind of put on the plays and they may be similar or kind of similar stories or whatever like that.

13:40 Adam But much more to the point is you have archetypes in there like you have the, um,

13:47 Adam cowardly, vainglorious military guy or you have the Harlequin or things like that.

13:54 Adam And actually, yeah, having then having watched the episode and then heard them talking about it's like, ah, so that's what you're doing.

14:03 Lee Yeah.

14:04 Adam But it was just yeah, it's just something that I've never, you know, I've never studied or, um, I've heard the term.

14:11 Adam But I've never known anything more about it.

14:13 Adam So it's one of those ones because they do sort of like, I think, uh, there is a thing in there where they're like, well, it's one for the.

14:21 Adam It's one for the theater students.

14:27 Adam So.

14:28 Adam And, um, yeah.

14:30 Adam I mean it's like I suppose like they did with like anything.

14:33 Adam It's like with the crossword like with the riddle of the Sphinx like with the crosswords where it's they had someone come in and do like check their cryptic crosswords to see if they followed the rules of cryptic crosswords.

14:44 Adam And, um,

14:44 Adam but yeah, it's, um, but definitely definitely a, um, a bit of a bit of a weird one.

14:52 Adam But still funny and funny in just whole routines of silly fucking jokes.

15:04 Adam Of of of the nature of it's not one that's in there, but very much of the nature of, uh, my wife's gone to the West Indies.

15:13 Lee Jamaica.

15:13 Adam Yeah.

15:14 Adam Yeah, it's very much in that like, in that sort of vein.

15:16 Adam But, um, but yeah, well worth I mean, you know, the good thing is you get a different thing every week.

15:22 Adam But yeah, it's just it's just good to have them back, really.

15:25 Lee Yeah, definitely.

15:27 Lee Excellent, cool.

15:29 Lee Um, I have been very busy since we were last together.

15:34 Lee Um, so first of all, I went back, I realized that Lady Jennifer, I know, I think I think this is something that Adam and I discussed either on or off mic a couple of months ago, which reminded me of it.

15:47 Lee Uh, 1995's Italian horror, The Day of the Beast.

15:52 Adam Oh, yes.

15:53 Lee I realized Jennifer had never seen it.

15:55 Lee Uh, because I watched it while she was at work when I borrowed it off of you, Adam, on VHS.

16:01 Adam Yeah.

16:02 Lee Um, so we went back and rewatched it.

16:03 Lee It was the one that was I'm sure it was on a VHS with Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2 and Spider Baby.

16:09 Adam That there's there was a VHS with that with those two on there, and I think the Day of the Beast was on with something was on another tape with something else.

16:14 Lee Ah.

16:15 Adam I can't for the fucking life of me remember what it was, but yeah.

16:18 Adam Um, but they're from the same batch of VHS's around that sort of time, I think, yeah.

16:24 Lee Um,

16:24 Lee I'd forgotten how funny this film was.

16:26 Lee It's just brilliant.

16:28 Lee It's it's just meant.

16:30 Lee Like I mentioned it to Jennifer.

16:33 Lee I said, oh, we just talking about this.

16:35 Lee I'd like to rewatch it.

16:35 Lee She said, I don't know anything about it.

16:36 Lee And then she read the synopsis.

16:38 Lee And it was just like, what?

16:41 Lee A priest is trying to commit crimes so that he gets to meet the devil.

16:47 Lee And he gets a man from a black metal band and an online cultist to join.

16:58 Lee Um, yeah.

16:59 Lee And they go on a drug fueled rampage.

17:01 Adam Yeah.

17:02 Adam They have to they have to find they have to find the Antichrist.

17:08 Adam It's

17:09 Adam And not only that, but also because I think, I think when, um, we did our, uh, Christmas crossover with, uh, the not for everyone, uh, boys.

17:24 Lee Yeah.

17:24 Chris Mmm.

17:25 Adam Um, and we were like sort of Christmas films and everything else like that, and just afterwards, I just had that fucking thing where it's like and I do I've done it with both of the ones.

17:39 Adam We've done the crossover where it's like afterwards, like just stopping in the middle of the street going,

17:43 Adam Oh, for fuck sake, I should have said that.

17:46 Adam You know.

17:46 Adam And this was definitely one of them, where it's like because it's at Christmas.

17:50 Lee Yeah.

17:51 Lee What could be more Christmas?

17:52 Adam You know.

17:53 Lee Oh, it's Christmas.

17:54 Adam Yeah.

17:55 Adam So,

17:56 Adam it's, um, yeah, but it's I mean, we should we'll have to cover it at some point.

18:01 Adam Because it's just we'll do it as our Christmas film this year or something, I don't know.

18:06 Lee That's a great idea.

18:07 Lee Yeah, I'd be more than happy to rewatch this again because it's it's just wonderful.

18:14 Lee Um,

18:15 Lee so from there, I rewatched, uh, 2012's The Secret of Crickley Hall.

18:22 Adam Oh, yeah.

18:22 Lee Uh, the made for TV mini series, it was in three episodes, 50 minutes each.

18:29 Lee Um,

18:32 Lee and it's brilliant.

18:33 Lee I I completely forgot that David Walliams is even in it.

18:37 Lee Um,

18:38 Chris Oh, wow.

18:39 Lee But yeah, it's it's uh, it's it's it's James Herbert.

18:44 Lee I've read the book a couple of times.

18:47 Lee Um,

18:48 Lee but this was actually a really good adaptation of it.

18:50 Lee Um,

18:52 Lee yeah, traditional ghost story.

18:53 Lee Uh, couple have lost their.

18:55 Lee child, uh, he's gone missing and it's the one-year anniversary and the husband is worried that the mother is starting to lose her marbles slightly.

19:06 Lee So he decides to take a job out in the Lake District basically.

19:10 Lee And move them into a great big manor house and live there for a couple of months just while the year anniversary blows over to try and keep her mind occupied.

19:15 Lee Um, yeah, and the house they move into used to be a, uh, an orphanage.

19:19 Lee Run by a lunatic and his sister.

19:23 Lee Um, yeah, and now the house is full of ghosts.

19:30 Lee But yeah, absolutely brilliant.

19:31 Lee Really, really good.

19:33 Lee Well worth watching.

19:34 Lee Uh, IMDB writes in a 6.9 to give you an idea of how good it is.

19:37 Lee So, um, yeah.

19:38 Lee Secret of Crickley Hall mini series.

19:42 Lee Winner, winner.

19:43 Lee Uh,

19:44 Chris Excellent.

19:45 Lee And then from then, I, uh, season one of Goosebumps has just appeared on, uh, Netflix.

19:55 Lee Uh, I never saw it the first time round.

19:58 Lee I think.

19:59 Adam Me neither.

20:00 Lee No, I mean, I think it's one of those, I think like my brother and a and his friends got really into it and my cousin Bust, um, were all really into it.

20:10 Lee Because they were that couple of years younger, but I think it it came out in 95, so it came out just at that point where we were too cool to be watching kids' TV shows.

20:20 Chris Yeah.

20:21 Lee Hey, look at me now, I'm 43 years old and I've finally gone back and started watching it.

20:25 Lee Um, but yeah, I thought it was oh no, it's too it's too aimed at kids, I won't watch it and I never did, but where it's turned up on Netflix, it's actually really good.

20:34 Adam I think I think that's the problem.

20:35 Chris I think the puppet looks like it's based on Jimmy Carr.

20:42 Chris It came up, I was like, what was he doing on there?

20:45 Adam I think we were at precisely the wrong age, Lee.

20:49 Lee Yeah.

20:50 Adam Because like, like you say, it's like, oh, I said, I'm a fucking kid.

20:55 Adam Like that and it's like, you know, we were at the we were at how many killings stage.

20:59 Lee Exactly.

21:00 Adam How many killings?

21:01 Adam No.

21:03 Lee But I mean, it's it's really it's, you know, it.

21:06 Lee I'm watching it at the moment in bed because they're like 25 minutes an episode, so as you get into bed, chuck one of those episodes on and by the time it's finished, I'm ready to turn the light out and get some sleep.

21:12 Lee Um,

21:14 Chris So you reckon it would be a good thing for for the age it's aimed at?

21:17 Lee Yeah, definitely.

21:18 Lee I I mean, it's very it is very kid-friendly.

21:22 Chris Yeah.

21:23 Chris But still well written.

21:24 Lee Oh.

21:25 Lee Yes, oh yeah.

21:26 Lee Really good.

21:28 Lee Um,

21:29 Lee yeah.

21:30 Lee Really tongue in cheek, it feels so 90s though.

21:33 Lee Like so painfully 90s the film and everything.

21:36 Lee Um,

21:37 Lee but yeah, I say they're really good and of course the film came out.

21:40 Lee A couple of years ago, the two movies they did of Goosebumps, uh, which introduced well sort of hawked back to a lot of the characters from the TV show.

21:47 Lee Um,

21:49 Lee so yeah, I thought it was worth going back and watching.

21:50 Lee And I'm glad that I did.

21:52 Adam On.

21:53 Adam On that thing of child sort of child friendly horror or scares or whatever.

22:00 Adam I haven't actually started watching it yet, but I have noticed that Round the Twist has turned up on, uh,

22:04 Adam I think on Amazon Prime.

22:07 Adam And.

22:08 Lee Oh, my God.

22:08 Adam Yeah.

22:09 Adam And that is something that I'm definitely going to have to rewatch, I think, because.

22:17 Adam It was again, it's one of those things of being, I was probably just a wee bit too old.

22:23 Adam Or sort of like I would have thought I was a wee bit too old to watch it.

22:29 Lee Yeah.

22:30 Adam But equally, whenever I did watch it, I was like, that's fucking weird, or that's creepy.

22:36 Lee Yeah.

22:36 Adam Or.

22:36 Adam You know what I mean?

22:37 Adam It was it was quite just a very sort of strange show in that sort of.

22:43 Adam It's.

22:44 Adam It also has that sort of lovely feeling to it where you're just like, wow, I can imagine that if you watch this at six, that would fucking that would have just stuck in your mind for years.

22:53 Lee Yeah.

22:54 Lee Yeah, exactly the same as Goosebumps.

22:56 Lee Yeah.

22:57 Adam Yeah, like living scarecrows and people with bum mouths and things like that.

23:02 Lee Oh, I think I need to see those as well now that you've mentioned it, I need to go back and rewatch it.

23:11 Lee Um,

23:12 Lee yeah, so that's all.

23:13 Lee Oh, and I did, uh, another Jason Buck, who I mentioned on the last episode, yes, uh, I've been and listened to two more of his readings.

23:26 Lee So one of them was the Beryl Cornet, the Sherlock Holmes story.

23:30 Adam Oh, yes.

23:31 Lee Um, he did a reading of that.

23:33 Lee And then my absolute favorite this week on Wednesday and Thursday over two nights for two hours each night, he read The Shadow Over Innsmouth.

23:42 Lee Um,

23:42 Chris Oh, nice.

23:43 Lee Which again, I didn't know Jennifer hadn't read.

23:45 Lee So she had no idea about it, so, uh, that was a a rare treat.

23:49 Lee So, uh, yeah, all good.

23:51 Adam I had a I had a sudden thing when you because following so many sort of like horror accounts and stuff like that on Instagram.

23:59 Adam Just flicking through and then it's just like a clip from Dagon.

24:02 Adam And I was just like,

24:03 Adam shit, I've not watched that for a very, very, very, very long time.

24:08 Adam To the point of almost thinking, did I even remember that film existed?

24:13 Adam I think I might have actually just forgotten.

24:14 Lee Yeah.

24:15 Lee We we're definitely going to rewatch it.

24:16 Lee As I, we would have watched it last night if we didn't have to watch the tech the block for this evening, so, uh.

24:22 Lee Dagon is very much on the list.

24:25 Chris Was that a little hint, didn't have to watch.

24:30 Lee No, no, it wasn't.

24:31 Lee No, well, maybe, well, I don't know.

24:35 Lee Let's get into it and let's discuss it.

24:36 Lee So, uh, yes.

24:37 Lee As we mentioned, we are covering, uh, Attack the Block from 2011.

24:43 Lee A film that Adam had seen.

24:44 Lee I had never seen, I'd watched the first 10 minutes.

24:47 Lee And set it off.

24:51 Lee Um, yeah, and Chris was keen to see what it was like.

24:55 Lee So Chris, what did you make of Attack the Block?

24:57 Chris Well, as you can see from my background, uh, if if I only took away the awesome teeth glowing as they do, a raver's nightmare.

25:08 Chris Look at those, look at those wonderful glowing things.

25:13 Chris Ah, it's killing me, but they're still glowing really nice.

25:16 Chris You know, like that that's quite a unique aspect to the film.

25:18 Lee Yeah.

25:19 Adam definitely the monsters, yeah.

25:21 Adam I I do I do think they're um, very well executed.

25:27 Lee I was backwards and forwards, I couldn't part of me was like, oh, it's really lazy, it's just a black shaggy outfit with somebody running in it and then part of me was like, yeah, but I did like the idea of it being so black that they were like, I've never seen anything that dark before.

25:43 Lee So I was like, it's kind of cool, but then the other part was like, it's a bit of a cop out, really, but yeah.

25:49 Adam I.

25:50 Adam I I think also because the because when I was reading about it, Joe I think Joe Cornish said it was, um, the ring rates in the animated Lord of the Rings, like the batch in Lord of the Rings.

26:08 Chris Yeah.

26:08 Adam Um, but also and this is one where I had to Google it because I was like, what does he mean?

26:16 Adam Um, the original arcade cabinet for Space Invaders.

26:22 Chris Yeah.

26:23 Lee Yes.

26:23 Lee Yeah.

26:24 Adam And it's got that sort of like fuzzy, shaggy sort of outline where it's just a set of eyes.

26:29 Adam And, um, yeah.

26:31 Adam And I.

26:31 Adam But I think I think the good thing is is that they they kind of make a virtue of the fact that they don't have.

26:40 Adam sort of concentrate on the monsters that much.

26:41 Lee Yeah.

26:42 Adam Where it's like, right, so the monsters are there and they're doing their thing.

26:45 Adam And that's it.

26:46 Adam They don't have like, you know, if if this was if this was 19 1982 in Antarctica, there'd be an autopsy sequence or something like that.

26:54 Adam But they just.

26:55 Adam They just get on with it, where it's like, right, it's monsters run.

27:01 Chris Yeah.

27:04 Adam I like.

27:05 Adam I like them when they're when they're peering in through the window, though.

27:10 Adam And you can just see the because it's the weird because the teeth look like eyes at first.

27:15 Lee Yeah.

27:15 Adam Until the mouth opens.

27:17 Adam And I quite like that, especially because people are just it's that thing of people peering to try and get a grasp on what it looks like.

27:08 Chris Yeah.

27:10 Chris Yeah.

27:10 Chris Yeah.

27:10 Chris Yeah.

27:24 Chris But yeah, no, I I thought it was it was entertaining.

27:30 Chris Um,

27:30 Chris I was pleased to see John John Boyega.

27:33 Chris Um.

27:35 Chris because obviously we're going to be watching him again soon and I hadn't seen him in anything else.

27:42 Chris So, yeah, he was completely unknown to me when I saw the Force Awakens.

27:45 Chris And so.

27:47 Chris I don't know.

27:48 Adam This this was his first film.

27:50 Chris It was, okay.

27:51 Chris So this was 2011.

27:53 Chris Um, I'm trying to remember now, Force Awakens.

27:55 Chris That was probably a few years ago now.

27:56 Chris This is kind of worrying.

27:57 Adam But 2015, I think.

27:59 Chris 15.

27:59 Chris Mmm, okay.

28:00 Adam Because I'm pretty sure yeah, because it came because we had that then it Rogue One.

28:04 Chris Mmm.

28:05 Adam And I think Rogue One's 2016 because they were sort of doing.

28:08 Chris Okay.

28:09 Adam They were sort of alternating saga versus spin-off stuff.

28:13 Chris That's right.

28:14 Chris Yeah.

28:14 Adam So yeah, so I think it's.

28:15 Adam I think it's 2015.

28:19 Chris Mmm.

28:19 Chris Okay.

28:20 Adam So it was only only a few years old.

28:21 Adam I mean.

28:22 Adam This this is the the curious thing about Attack the Block is that it does predict English sci-fi for the next fucking decade.

28:30 Adam Because you've got like John Boyega, who obviously is one of the sort of.

28:33 Adam Well, certainly certainly the Force Awakens is one of the major stars of the series.

28:39 Chris Yeah.

28:40 Adam Yeah.

28:41 Adam And one of the only non-Jedi characters to ever wield a lightsaber.

28:48 Lee Indeed.

28:48 Adam Um, and obviously Jodie Whittaker who is now the doctor.

28:52 Adam In Dr.

28:52 Lee Who.

28:53 Adam In Dr. Who.

28:54 Adam And the but the weird thing is is.

28:56 Chris Oh, wait, so

28:57 Chris wait, she must be the first female doctor then.

28:59 Adam She is the first female doctor.

29:00 Adam And that's the that's the weird thing is a lot of the time as a Doctor Who fan.

29:04 Adam You watch stuff and there'll be a performance in it or something like that where you're like,

29:11 Adam oh, that person would make quite a good doctor or whatever like that.

29:15 Adam And but I remember sort of like looking back now, when I watched this, that wasn't a thing.

29:21 Adam There was no sort of, you know, there wasn't a you didn't even have.

29:27 Adam Because obviously because in they they change they changed the the master first.

29:30 Adam First came back as a woman.

29:32 Chris Mmm.

29:33 Chris But does that mean the assistant became a man?

29:35 Adam Uh.

29:36 Adam No.

29:36 Adam Jodie Whittaker's got three assistants.

29:40 Adam One of whom is Bradley Walsh.

29:41 Adam And he's frankly fucking brilliant.

29:43 Chris Yeah.

29:44 Adam He really, really is.

29:47 Adam And it's still.

29:48 Adam But, um,

29:49 Adam but they've they've they have done it.

29:52 Adam In a couple of episodes where people who know the doctor have turned up and assumed that Bradley Walsh is the doctor.

29:56 Chris That's right.

29:56 Chris Yeah.

29:56 Adam Because they didn't.

29:58 Adam But similarly,

29:58 Adam you know, I'm I'm looking back at this now and it's like, there was no way in my brain that I would have been like.

30:05 Adam Oh, that Jodie Whittaker would have made a very good doctor because it's just not.

30:09 Adam You know, 10 years ago there was definitely not a thing where it's like, oh yeah, well, obviously anyone could, you know, any gender can play the doctor.

30:20 Adam Although that has opened it up now.

30:22 Adam Because at the moment my, um, mostly due to my own obsession anyway, but I think that fucking I always thought Maxine Peak would be a fucking great doctor.

30:28 Adam But now, the trouble is, it does mean that everything is laid wide open.

30:32 Adam Where you can just watch stuff and it's like, oh, that doctor's very good.

30:36 Lee Yeah.

30:37 Adam You know.

30:38 Adam Maybe he could be the doctor.

30:39 Adam I don't know.

30:40 Adam So.

30:41 Adam Because if because I mean, I suppose if I was if I was taking anything from this, it would have probably been, you know, I would have thought, oh, maybe John Boyega or something like that.

30:58 Adam But yeah, so it's.

31:00 Adam quite an interesting.

31:02 Adam Uh, thing when, you know, that.

31:05 Adam Especially because I mean, I don't think Jodie Whittaker had done that much then because she did she the reason she got the reason she got the part of the doctor is she did, uh, Broadchurch.

31:16 Adam And the guy who's producing Doctor Who now or show running Doctor Who now,

31:20 Adam um, created Broadchurch, like the ITV crime series.

31:24 Adam And, um,

31:26 Adam yeah, so that's that's the reason that's like the main reason that she's she got cast as the doctor.

31:30 Adam But yeah, so it's just a very weird sort of.

31:34 Adam thing there.

31:34 Adam And obviously you've got Nick Frost who.

31:36 Chris Yeah.

31:37 Adam who.

31:38 Adam I mean, he was a very good Santa Claus in Doctor Who, it has to be said.

31:41 Adam So.

31:43 Lee Uh,

31:43 Lee I was just looking.

31:45 Lee I'd forgotten, yeah, so, uh, she was also in Marchlands, which I'd forgotten about entirely.

31:47 Lee Now that's a fantastic supernatural mini series.

31:50 Lee Oh no, it's a full series, I think.

31:50 Lee Five episodes.

31:51 Lee Um,

31:53 Lee yeah, that's outstanding.

31:55 Lee I'd forgotten she was in that as well.

31:56 Chris Mmm.

31:57 Lee But yeah.

31:58 Lee I think you're right, I think the takeaway thing from this film, uh, although I I took very little away from it, what I did take away was at least John Boyega got out there and got seen and then at least it was a stepping stone for him to be in Star Wars, because he's fantastic in Star Wars.

32:12 Adam Yeah.

32:13 Lee I mean,

32:14 Adam I thought.

32:14 Adam I thought he was good in this.

32:15 Lee He is great in this.

32:16 Lee Because I.

32:16 Adam He is great in this.

32:17 Adam Because I I I think he does manage to be, um,

32:21 Adam because I mean that that the whole sort of opening sequence.

32:25 Adam And I know that this is I know because, um,

32:27 Adam me and Lee were talking beforehand and I know that the main, um, or one of the main issues that Lee has with it is obviously is you've got characters who start off doing something horrible.

32:35 Chris Yeah.

32:37 Adam And I think the film doesn't the film doesn't really pull away from it, it never tries to sort of say that that was anything other than horrible. Um, and but I think that that's I think that's the thing is because and interestingly enough, this is something that I was like reading about and I don't and this I don't think this is where I certainly don't think this is where you are, Lee, but there was a thing where they said like when it came out because we were talking to, um, Bobby from not for everyone who really likes who loves attack the block, and it's got like a weird it has like quite an unusually for what you'd think is a very English centric film, has quite a following in the states, but but the interesting thing was is that it sort of it did kind of tank over here.

33:25 Adam It wasn't like a big smash or anything else like that.

33:26 Adam I mean, half of that, I think is a lot of people were like, oh, it's just like Sean of the Dead, no, it's fucking not.

33:32 Adam It's different, it's funny.

33:34 Lee It's not.

33:34 Adam Yeah.

33:35 Adam But it's a totally different thing.

33:36 Adam This is more like Assault on Precinct 13 or something like that.

33:41 Adam You know.

33:42 Adam It's an action film with funny bits, not a comedy action film.

33:44 Chris I I I I'd say the more entertaining lines, it's not not not comedy.

33:49 Adam Yeah.

33:49 Adam It's not gag.

33:50 Lee And that was the thing.

33:50 Lee Like I only got two legitimate laughs for the entire film.

33:52 Lee So.

33:53 Chris But I I was constantly amused by it.

33:54 Chris Rather than, yeah, just the unfolding of the story.

33:57 Lee That's true.

33:57 Lee I don't.

33:58 Lee I don't I have to be on somebody's side.

34:01 Adam I I'd say it's the more entertaining lines.

34:05 Adam Not not.

34:05 Lee Oh, they just fo.

34:06 Chris You had it with Psycho Gorman as well.

34:08 Lee I have I have to like the characters enough to care what happens to them.

34:09 Lee Or.

34:10 Chris I suppose it's the opposite, right, like um, Shaun of the Dead, everyone had high expectations but didn't really think it would necessarily be as great as it managed to be.

34:14 Lee Oh, I still.

34:15 Lee I just yeah, I didn't get that.

34:17 Lee No, you're not.

34:18 Adam You're not.

34:18 Adam You're not.

34:19 Adam You're not.

34:19 Adam And I think again, I think that's the thing, I think people as I think you're quite right, I think people saw Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz and then saw this come out and were like, right, this is the next big comedy and as Adam said, it is actually not a big it with some funny scenes in it, or it's funny lines, but ultimately, if you're going in expecting Hot Fuzz and just like wall to wall nonsense and hilarity, that's not what you're going to get. You're going to come away with flat.

35:09 Lee No.

35:10 Lee No.

35:10 Chris In comparison, no.

35:11 Lee You're not going to get it.

35:13 Adam You're going to get far more, well, weirdly enough, I think also you're just going to get a far more realistic portrayal of,

35:14 Adam uh,

35:15 Adam of people.

35:15 Adam They're not really characters, they are actually they're characters in the sense of they're fictional.

35:17 Adam But they're not like played to a time to a sort of thing.

35:21 Adam Or I think I've just rambled now.

35:23 Lee No, no.

35:23 Chris I may have had a stroke.

35:24 Adam I may.

35:25 Adam I may.

35:25 Chris I may have had a stroke.

35:27 Adam I may have had a stroke.

35:28 Adam But that's only because.

35:29 Chris Claire could reach.

35:30 Adam No.

35:31 Adam Yeah.

35:32 Chris They didn't they didn't have many jokes like that.

35:34 Adam Exactly.

35:35 Adam You know, and and that is clearly box office gold, which is why I, you know, that is that is why they get me in as a script doctor.

35:42 Adam Um,

35:42 Adam or was it a rug doctor?

35:43 Adam I can't remember.

35:44 Adam It was one, one or the other.

35:45 Adam Involved a lot of foam, I know that.

35:47 Adam Right.

35:47 Lee So, uh, let's wrap it up there.

35:51 Lee So, uh, don't forget everybody, next week, uh, the gentleman will be back with Wes.

35:57 Lee And what will you be covering next week?

35:59 Adam We should be covering Star Wars episode 7, The Force Awakens, starring a little known guy called John Boyega.

36:09 Adam Keep an eye out for that guy.

36:11 Adam Because I think big things are in the pipeline.

36:13 Adam I don't mean he's having a shit.

36:16 Lee Um,

36:17 Lee excellent, and the following week, the three of us will be back.

36:22 Lee For my birthday selection this time, when we will be covering The Wolf of Snow Hollow.

36:25 Lee Oh, I'm very excited to see this for the fourth time in about six months.

36:29 Lee Because it's bloody brilliant.

36:32 Adam So I.

36:33 Adam I.

36:33 Adam I've built this up a lot.

36:36 Lee Well, yeah.

36:37 Lee Don't don't let me overhype it.

36:41 Adam Well, what what what as long as we won't be able to say that we've seen the graphic everywhere.

36:44 Lee You're not.

36:45 Adam You're not.

36:46 Adam Yeah.

36:47 Adam You haven't attacked our block with it.

36:49 Adam But.

36:49 Adam No, I'm I'm looking forward to this because it's one of those ones that's just sort of cropped up in the periphery.

36:52 Adam When I've been reading about like films coming out and stuff like that, that's one that's always got mentioned.

36:57 Adam And then not really heard actually much about it.

36:59 Adam So.

36:59 Adam Yeah, I'm looking forward to this.

37:01 Adam Yeah.

37:01 Lee I'm keen to see what you what you both make of it.

37:04 Lee Um,

37:05 Lee excellent.

37:06 Lee So, thank you ever so much for listening, everybody, uh, don't forget to come back next week for Mos Eisley and the following week for Welcome to Horror again.

37:16 Lee Uh, don't I'm saying I'm slurring my words, I'm not even drinking.

37:20 Lee Uh, don't forget to check out the, uh, not for everyone podcast.

37:25 Lee Adam has got his hand up in the air.

37:28 Adam Uh, I was also just going to remind people that we have coming up as yet unknown from uh, Wes and Mosley's background, which should be coming out.

37:35 Adam By the time this goes out, I think it should be coming out the following week.

37:38 Adam So,

37:38 Adam yeah, just find them through our Instagram, subscribe and uh, you'll be kept updated on that one.

37:44 Lee I'm very excited about that.

37:46 Lee I Wes has always been, I've known Wes since school and that was used to be our math lessons was.

37:52 Lee We'd get into math, we would they'd give us like a test or whatever.

37:54 Lee Wes and I were quite good at it, so we'd smash out the whole lessons test in 15 minutes and then sit and talk about ghost and UFOs for the rest of the lesson.

38:01 Lee So I'm very keen to hear what he's he's boiled down to his top six.

38:05 Adam I think he will have done his homework for it, certainly.

38:09 Lee Yeah.

38:10 Adam Don't don't let me over hype it.

38:11 Lee Uh.

38:12 Lee Uh.

38:13 Adam Well, what what what as long as we won't be able to say that we've seen the graphic everywhere.

38:17 Lee You're not.

38:18 Adam You're not you haven't attacked our block with it.

38:20 Adam But no, I'm I'm looking forward to this.

38:22 Adam Because it's one of those ones that's just sort of cropped up in the periphery when I've been reading about like films coming out and stuff like that.

38:28 Adam That's one that's always got mentioned.

38:30 Adam And then not really heard actually much about it.

38:32 Adam So, yeah, I'm looking forward to this.

38:33 Adam Yeah.

38:34 Lee I'm keen to see what you what you both make of it.

38:36 Lee Um,

38:37 Lee excellent.

38:38 Lee Right, yes, so go and check out all that good stuff.

38:41 Lee And we will see you all back here in a fortnight's time for The Wolf of Snow Hollow.

38:48 Lee Thanks very much, good night.

38:53 Adam Good night.