Killer Klows from Outer Space

0:00 Lee Good evening and welcome to horror.

0:00 Lee I'm Lee.

0:00 Chris I'm Chris.

0:00 Adam Hey, Adam.

0:00 Lee I can't breathe.

0:00 Chris He's coughing.

0:00 Lee I can't believe it's taken us 200 episodes to get here, but here is where we are, we're going to be discussing 1988's fantastic movie by the Chiodo Brothers, Killer Klowns from Outer Space.

0:00 Chris Yes.

0:00 Adam

0:00 Lee Now, I know this has a particular place in the hearts of myself and Adam.

0:00 Adam So, having not seen it, I would be interesting to hear about.

0:00 Chris I'm assuming.

0:01 Lee I'm assuming.

0:01 Lee Spoiler alert.

0:01 Lee Oh, yes, speaking of which, there will be spoilers and swearing.

0:01 Adam You brick.

0:01 Lee So, on your first watching, Chris.

0:01 Chris They're they're clowns.

0:01 Lee What did you make of Killer Klowns? There are a lot of clowns.

0:01 Chris Beware the Bozos. Killer Klowns are carnival of chaos, crazier than critters, more Ghoulish than Gremlins, and freakier than Freddy, and no, the cops aren't going to be much help.

0:01 Chris Until a bit later on when they they improve a bit.

0:01 Lee Yeah.

0:01 Chris So, yeah, you just said, how have we waited this long to get here?

0:01 Chris Come on, who's who's got a good answer for that?

0:01 Adam No one.

0:01 Lee No, no.

0:01 Lee I I think it it's unfortunately, I think it's one of those ones that is just it's so prevalent that it almost seems daft to cover it a bit like The Exorcist.

0:01 Chris Oh, yeah, yeah.

0:01 Lee It's but it's a very niche film. Everybody who's seen it loves it, but it is a little bit of an odd hard sell, really.

0:02 Chris It's another one where you saw the cover a lot in the.

0:02 Adam Yes, in Blockbuster.

0:02 Adam But it's also one of those, it's on it's on a different list.

0:02 Adam Killer Klowns from Outer Space is never going to be on like.

0:02 Adam I mean, fuck me, I mean, this is shaming me on a Barry Norman list of films. That was the that was literally the first film critic I could think of, which shows goes to prove how up to the fucking minute I am with my.

0:02 Adam with my knowledge on this.

0:02 Adam But no, it's The Exorcist or Night of the Living Dead are always going to be on classic horror movie lists.

0:02 Adam Killer Klowns from Outer Space isn't, but.

0:02 Adam Everyone who's seen it loves it, and everyone everyone who's seen it has an affection for it, which is just as important, I think.

0:02 Chris I could imagine it being a film that almost gets better with age.

0:02 Chris In that you know, it could it's surprising how good it still looks now for what I assume is a fairly budget friendly film.

0:03 Lee Yeah, yeah, definitely.

0:03 Lee but yeah, as you were saying about it being one of those that you always saw in the video shop.

0:03 Lee It that was how I first saw it, so when we were younger, my parents both worked.

0:03 Lee So, a couple of nights a week, my nan would pick us up from school and take us to hers, she had no idea what certificates were.

0:03 Lee So she would take us to the video shop and let us go.

0:03 Adam This little, is this little Geordie nana?

0:03 Lee Little Geordie Nana, yeah, yeah.

0:03 Adam Yeah, yeah.

0:03 Chris God bless her.

0:03 Lee I I don't know how she didn't get ID'd, she's only two and a half foot.

0:03 Lee But we.

0:03 Chris I get it.

0:03 Lee So me and my brother went and hired this out, and then it became one of those staples, every three weeks or so, we'd just hire it out and watch it again, because it's just such a fun film.

0:03 Lee yeah.

0:03 Lee And then it was one of the first things I had to get when I got a DVD player.

0:04 Lee And I've never fallen out of love with this film, it's just so much fun, and so much better than it's got a lot of right to be in some respects.

0:04 Chris Yeah, yeah, I mean it certainly comes across as we've said, I think a few times recently.

0:04 Chris It's a film that knows what it is and it does what it is well, but it's not trying to be something other than that.

0:04 Lee Yeah.

0:04 Adam No.

0:04 Adam And I think weirdly and this is this, I mean, because I'm I'm late I was late to the party on it.

0:04 Adam I didn't see it when I was really little when it first came out, but it must have been sort of mid-90s.

0:04 Adam And actually, it was sort of it's weird because you do get a glut of or it's or it's a cyclic thing, you get clown horror movies.

0:04 Adam You know, you obviously had it and then most recently the example would be Terrifier and things like that, so it's but so clowns are a horror staple, and.

0:05 Adam But this I I think the weirdest thing is how well it stands up in terms of its production.

0:05 Chris

0:05 Adam You know, I mean, the the the the sort of character the the human characters and everything else like that is it's clearly the 80s, it's clearly, you know, of it of that time period and everything else like that.

0:05 Adam But actually the effects are fucking great.

0:05 Chris Yeah.

0:05 Adam You know, the the clowns the practical effects, the clowns themselves, the sets, particularly like the big top spaceship.

0:05 Adam I mean, that bit I mean, watched it with Claire, it was Claire's first time ever seeing it, and she genuinely wowed when they go into the room and there's the.

0:05 Adam Like you know, where it's like the sort of mat shot and they've got the power ball thing, like the power coupling thing going off.

0:05 Adam And

0:05 Adam Yeah, it's just it it's remarkable that it still holds, you know, holds up so well.

0:06 Adam That it's like, you you wouldn't have to make allowances showing this to someone.

0:06 Chris

0:06 Adam Do you know what I mean, you don't have to prep someone by saying oh, it's the 80s or oh, well, there is there is this bit that's a bit crap or that looks a bit shoddy or whatever like that.

0:06 Adam Because actually nothing does in it, it's all.

0:06 Adam And and all the the stuff is so you want all the fucking kit.

0:06 Adam Because it's like you want their guns, you want their fucking weird sweeper thing that they use, like a giant Hoover thing that they've got.

0:06 Adam Or the clown car.

0:06 Adam And all that you want the popcorn gun and things like that because everything looks so fucking good.

0:06 Adam And follows the the same like everything looks right, it's like, of course that's what alien clown technology looks like.

0:06 Chris Yeah, exactly.

0:07 Lee Yeah.

0:07 Lee It's it's and that's the thing, it is such a ludicrous idea, it would be a hard sell.

0:07 Lee But you know, that but that's what we've said, you know, if once you've seen it, there's nothing about this film that let that lets it down.

0:07 Lee It's just excellent and it's yeah, it's thoroughly entertaining, it's gorgeous to look at.

0:07 Lee the soundtrack by The Dickies is obviously outstanding.

0:07 Adam Well, it's only the theme tune that's The Dickies.

0:07 Lee And the theme tune, sorry, not the soundtrack.

0:07 Adam Yeah, and but yeah, and but the but the soundtrack is fucking amazing.

0:07 Adam The guy who did the soundtrack John John Massari.

0:07 Adam And he.

0:07 Adam but yeah, The Dickies did the theme song because we were we were listening to some Dickies the other day.

0:07 Adam and yeah, they did release an EP called Killer Klowns from Outer Space, which is the theme tune and four other songs.

0:07 Adam But the four other songs aren't in the film or anything to do with the film, it's just that was yeah.

0:08 Chris But they sound like they could be.

0:08 Adam Oh, they it's well, The Dickies have a particular sort of sound that they it's that very sort of jerky punk sound, kind of like sort of Devo, a bit like Devo, a bit Ramonesy but not too much like that, it's that sort of sound.

0:08 Lee So Cramps sort of.

0:08 Adam Yeah, because they're they're best they're best known song is they did like a really speed freak cover of the theme tune from the Banana Splits, you know.

0:08 Adam They did like a cover that's like twice, I mean that's already quite hyped song, and they did it like twice the fucking speed.

0:08 Adam And they do a lot of really cool covers, they did like Paranoid by Black Sabbath and just.

0:08 Adam Loads of great songs, but they are they're a genuinely great band.

0:08 Adam But apparently they did the they were just told the title and did the song, they didn't see the film or anything.

0:09 Chris It seems no.

0:09 Adam They just did it and got commission for it.

0:09 Adam And yeah, and the guy who the guy who did the score for it, the the he reused a couple of bits because the the actual march when they're going into town, which is one of the best pieces of music well, in the film certainly, but just one of the best pieces of music full stop.

0:09 Adam he originally wrote that for his high school band, but the rest of the band chucked it out because they were like, oh, it sounds a bit jazz.

0:09 Chris All right.

0:09 Adam So,

0:09 Adam And actually the the music when the Clownzilla appears at the end.

0:09 Chris Yeah.

0:09 Adam that was he originally wrote that as trailer music for Friday the 13th Part Six.

0:09 Chris Oh, right.

0:09 Adam but they didn't use it in that trailer, so it was like, well, I've got this, you know, and so he had so, you know, wasn't afraid to keep all these ideas around and use them when they actually were appropriate and could be sort of utilized.

0:09 Adam But yeah, I mean, he's done.

0:09 Adam Like, because he does lots of because so he did.

0:10 Adam Do you remember a film called The Wizard of Speed and Time, Lee?

0:10 Lee No.

0:10 Chris I I definitely remember, I do definitely remember that, yeah.

0:10 Adam Yeah, so he did the music for that, and he did the music for Retro Puppet Master.

0:11 Adam And then lots of his I think he does a lot of library stuff.

0:11 Adam So his stuff's turned up on a lot of TV shows like, like American Pickers, RuPaul's Drag Race, Stranger Things, Key and Peele.

0:12 Chris All right.

0:12 Adam So like his tracks, he hasn't necessarily written them for that, but those tracks have appeared on there.

0:13 Chris Okay.

0:13 Adam Yeah, and like The Ray Bradbury Theatre and Practical Jokers and stuff like that.

0:13 Adam So it's sort of stuff that's around and has been used in all those shows.

0:14 Adam He also did music for a thing called The Heart She Holler, which I'm fucking desperate to see and I've never been able to find it anywhere to watch properly.

0:14 Adam Which is like adult swim did like a comedy version of like a sort of Twin Peaks thing, and it's got Patton Oswalt and, Amy Sedaris in it.

0:15 Adam And it looks it looks brilliant, it looks fucking mental because like people have said, oh, it's like, you know, it's an over it's like Twin Peaks, but way more exaggerated and way more funny and weird.

0:16 Adam Like deliberately funny and weird, not just like awkwardly funny in the way that you do with sort of Lynch or whatever.

0:17 Adam

0:17 Adam But like, yeah, so there's yeah, I mean, the music's fucking fantastic.

0:17 Adam And.

0:17 Adam The I mean, the the acting is the the other great thing is.

0:17 Adam It's everyone's doing a B movie, so all the humans are in a B movie.

0:18 Adam So it's not it's just on the edge of over the top.

0:18 Chris Yeah.

0:18 Adam You know.

0:18 Chris Which fits perfectly.

0:18 Adam Yeah, you don't you don't need a Ken Loach version of Killer Klowns from Outer Space.

0:19 Adam You don't need like, you know, it's like well, it's it's you know, we want naturalistic performances with people mumbling.

0:19 Adam No, you do need people to.

0:20 Lee You need The Terran brothers, like that's what you need to be, that is 100% what you need.

0:20 Lee

0:20 Lee Yeah.

0:20 Adam And Moony.

0:20 Lee And I've got I've got I was about to say I've got to bring it up, my favorite character in it is Moony, he's just absolutely outstanding.

0:21 Lee Yeah.

0:21 Lee He just.

0:21 Adam John Vernon.

0:22 Lee Yeah, again always brings in a stellar performance.

0:22 Lee but he just works so well in this, just his I've had enough of this shit and I'm not taking it anymore.

0:23 Chris It's.

0:23 Chris It's just the it's just the amount of venom that comes out.

0:23 Chris Yeah, his disdain for the entirety of pretty much all humans, but especially the youth of the town.

0:24 Adam Yeah, he's he's coming to work pissed off and he's staying.

0:24 Chris It's.

0:24 Chris It's it's not getting any better.

0:24 Adam And I'll be honest, that's a feeling I know.

0:25 Lee Yeah.

0:25 Adam And just the I mean, just the amount of little prick and just all the stuff that.

0:25 Adam But I'd forgotten we've actually had him on the show before, not not on the show.

0:26 Adam Obviously, and here he is, special guest.

0:26 Adam But because I always forget he's in The Uncanny, the the cat anthology horror film, he's like the Hollywood producer in that.

0:27 Lee Yes.

0:27 Adam And I always forget about that.

0:28 Adam But obviously.

0:28 Adam Probably, I mean, it's Doctor Stone in Airplane II.

0:28 Lee Yeah.

0:28 Adam Which is just just the pinnacle, one of the pinnacles of the career.

0:29 Adam Where it's is that a good sign?

0:29 Adam Oh, well, it does the trick and you know.

0:30 Adam What's your impression of?

0:30 Adam I'm a psychiatrist, I don't do impressions.

0:30 Adam And and obviously Dean Wormer in Animal House.

0:31 Lee That's good to say, that's what he's always always going to be Dean Wormer for me.

0:31 Lee

0:31 Adam Did you know that there's a spin-off, there was a TV version of Animal House?

0:32 Adam And he's in it as Dean Wormer.

0:32 Lee Oh, I might have to track that down.

0:33 Adam Apparently, it's called Delta House.

0:33 Adam I don't know if anyone I don't think anyone else is in it.

0:34 Adam But,

0:35 Adam Yeah, there is like a spin-off TV series that ran for one series.

0:35 Lee Oh, I'm 100% gonna try and find that.

0:36 Adam Yeah.

0:36 Adam And obviously, and he's brilliant in as the mayor in Dirty Harry.

0:37 Adam And just yeah, he's just a fantastic.

0:38 Adam I also didn't realize this.

0:38 Adam But during the sort of 60s, he was the voice of half of the Marvel cartoons, like half the Marvel superheroes.

0:39 Adam He was Iron Man, the Sub-Mariner.

0:40 Adam in Iron Man, the Sub-Mariner in stuff like Captain America, The Mighty Thor.

0:41 Adam Obviously, Iron Man, The Hulk.

0:42 Adam he was Doctor Strange and General Ross in stuff.

0:43 Adam He was Doctor Doom.

0:43 Adam and he does like he's did voice work in Heavy Metal and Duckman and stuff like that as well.

0:44 Adam Nice.

0:45 Adam And yeah.

0:46 Adam It's just always fucking.

0:46 Adam He's just always great to see.

0:47 Lee I think I I do think that Heavy Metal is something we could possibly.

0:48 Lee shoehorn in as horror, just to cover.

0:49 Lee I don't know if you've ever seen it, Chris.

0:50 Chris No.

0:50 Lee It's it's a strange adult animation.

0:51 Lee It's very fantasy, it's very weird.

0:51 Lee It's kind of awesome.

0:52 Lee yeah.

0:53 Lee But it's one of those I I've seen it about four times.

0:54 Lee And I can only ever remember the kind of initial wrap around bit.

0:55 Lee And every time I watch it, I'm it's like I'm watching it for the first time.

0:56 Lee I think because it always goes on at one o'clock in the morning when I'm pissed.

0:57 Adam Yeah.

0:57 Chris Yeah.

0:58 Adam See I I I I only.

0:59 Adam I remember I remember image-wise, but I only saw it once as a kid because I think there was the mistaken belief that it's oh, it's animation, so kids can watch it.

0:01 Lee No, it's not really.

0:01 Adam And it's like, yeah, it's not really, it's.

0:01 Adam Not not really that sort of thing.

0:01 Adam But but like you said, obviously, and I I'll.

0:01 Adam I only found out that it's the the so the team who made this.

0:01 Adam it's actually The Chiodo Brothers, that's how you pronounce it.

0:01 Adam So I heard an interview with him, but I always thought it was Cheeto to be honest.

0:02 Adam

0:02 Adam And basically, it's three they're three brothers from New York who started an effects started doing effects and stuff like that.

0:02 Adam And Stephen Chiodo is the director and he wrote it with Charles and Edward like his brothers.

0:02 Adam

0:02 Adam And and they're they specialized in creature design, puppeteering, animatronics, claymation and stop motion and it all.

0:02 Adam You can see it all in here.

0:02 Lee Yeah.

0:02 Adam and they designed and puppeteered the critters.

0:02 Chris Yeah, okay.

0:02 Adam in that.

0:02 Adam They did large Marge in Pee-wee's Big Adventure.

0:02 Adam And they also did stuff for

0:02 Adam Oh, what's the what's the short, Victor?

0:02 Adam The the Edward fuck me.

0:02 Adam The Tim Burton short, Vincent.

0:02 Lee Oh, yes.

0:02 Adam They they did they did that as well, and they were meant to do Beetlejuice, but were actually making this.

0:03 Adam But you can so see that that following the same and everything else like that.

0:03 Chris It would yeah.

0:03 Adam but they also did the stop motion stuff in Elf.

0:03 Adam You know where it's like him recalling the north like talking about the North Pole.

0:03 Lee Oh, yeah, yeah.

0:03 Adam That's The Chiodo Brothers, the commercial for the 6000 X in Robo Cop.

0:04 Adam Marcel the Shell with Shoes On.

0:04 Adam Team America World Police, Monsters in Stupid and

0:04 Adam Alien Abduction and The Monsters TV series, Beastmaster 3, Screamers.

0:04 Adam and they also did a puppet segment and five claymation segments for various episodes of The Simpsons.

0:04 Lee

0:04 Lee Nice.

0:04 Adam So, you know, they they do a lot, and you know, and that was the thing, they just started off like together like just as kids.

0:05 Adam And that was what they like I listened to this interview and they were like.

0:05 Adam Yeah, other kids were out playing ball and we were indoors like making sort of trying to make Ray Harryhausen films and sort of do stuff like that.

0:05 Adam Or building monster heads and things like that.

0:05 Adam And

0:05 Lee Well, yeah, they're clowns in this, I love it is that balance of they are every clown in it is very different.

0:05 Lee They've all got a.

0:05 Chris Yeah, yeah.

0:05 Lee They've got their own style, which I love.

0:05 Lee

0:05 Adam They've all got names as well, did you know that?

0:05 Lee I didn't know that.

0:05 Adam No, they obviously, obviously you don't hear them on the thing, but yeah, they they have all got individual names as well, so.

0:05 Adam It's really, include what I wrote down a couple of them.

0:05 Adam There's McGorey, Jumbo, Shorty, Slim, Rudy, and Clownzilla, obviously.

0:05 Adam But yeah.

0:05 Chris That makes it a bit easier to refer to them while you're.

0:05 Adam Exactly, yeah.

0:05 Lee They just managed to be creepy and sinister.

0:05 Lee And just, oh, they just look filthy as well, like I love that, they look dirty, like they're just, oh, they're so.

0:06 Lee I wonder how much this led to people's fear of clowns as much as, you know, possibly Pennywise did.

0:06 Lee Because they're.

0:06 Adam Yeah.

0:06 Adam Well, that that was the one thing we were debating because like having watched it with Claire, we were like.

0:06 Adam That would be the only thing, because we were kind of like, you know, Ted could possibly watch it.

0:06 Adam Because it's not extreme, it's silly.

0:06 Chris Yeah.

0:06 Adam There's not.

0:06 Adam But equally, the clowns are scary enough that that would be the thing.

0:06 Adam You take away the and she do we do we want to give him what is it, or I can't remember, but.

0:06 Lee Yeah.

0:06 Lee Oh, I don't know the name.

0:06 Adam Do we want to make him afraid of clowns yet?

0:06 Adam So, so instead, we just put on a documentary about John Wayne Gacy.

0:06 Lee That's a good idea.

0:06 Chris That's good.

0:06 Adam How many your back.

0:06 Chris I I introduced Toby to

0:06 Chris I've just completely forgotten his name.

0:06 Chris It's in Rick and Morty.

0:07 Chris Oh, what is he called? Cronenberg, there you go.

0:07 Adam Oh, really?

0:07 Chris The Cronenberg episode, which it's funny.

0:07 Adam Oh, right.

0:07 Chris But he's got the concept of what a Cronenberg type thing is, and yeah, that's it's gone a bit too a bit too real in his mind.

0:07 Adam Yeah.

0:07 Adam Well, well, I.

0:07 Chris So, I won't be rushing to show him Cronenberg films just yet.

0:07 Adam For a second there, I thought you were actually showing him like The Brood or The Fly or something.

0:07 Adam It was like, that's a bit much, Chris.

0:07 Chris Not not quite there.

0:07 Chris I mean, we'll start with Rick and Morty cartoon, but yeah, you know.

0:07 Chris I was going to make this I was going to make this slightly more serious in that another horror film that I think is possibly ahead of its time.

0:08 Chris In that it presented the female character, Debbie.

0:08 Chris As being very logical, very like cautious.

0:08 Chris But also, this is probably not a cotton candy factory.

0:08 Chris Like, have you ever seen this before?

0:08 Chris And the guy's like typical overconfident, just rushing in.

0:08 Lee Like, to back a clueless thing.

0:08 Adam Which is a fantastic fucking night.

0:08 Chris Yeah, yeah.

0:08 Adam But also, yeah, that was kind of what they said they wanted to do is they kind of wanted to invert it.

0:08 Adam That he was the dumb blonde sort of character that you would usually get in a horror film.

0:08 Adam And she was like the smart one.

0:09 Chris But it's funny how a lot of horrors do flip it, so like we do get the typical, but then yeah, we also get the very progressive.

0:09 Lee Very opposite, yeah.

0:09 Chris That's not how it always is.

0:09 Chris Yeah, often the men are very stupid.

0:09 Adam Horror as as a trope, there is the final girl.

0:09 Adam You know, it's it's the woman who survives by actually working shit out.

0:09 Adam And actually, you know, either through sense or strength or whatever manages to come out on top.

0:09 Adam You know.

0:09 Chris Mike does have a redeeming quality.

0:09 Chris Of he does want to do good.

0:09 Chris He's just slightly.

0:09 Adam Oh, yeah, he's just a bit he's just a bit fucking thing.

0:09 Adam You know, he's just And similarly, they actually, there was like the original ending of it.

0:09 Adam Apparently, they were going to kill Dave off.

0:09 Chris Oh, okay.

0:10 Adam

0:10 Adam And then they basically, they showed it to a test audience.

0:10 Adam And the test audience were like, oh, we wanted to have a bit of a happier ending.

0:10 Adam And so they refilmed it so that Dave survived.

0:10 Adam but apparently when like the producers went to them and said, oh, you know.

0:10 Adam They've said about that and they were like, yeah, but come on, we want to make it realistic.

0:10 Adam And they were like, it's a film about clowns from outer space.

0:11 Chris Yeah.

0:11 Adam Yes, fair point, okay, we'll go and.

0:11 Chris I like the fact I've learned how to.

0:11 Adam to suddenly go, no, we want this to be for real.

0:11 Adam You know, we don't want this to be.

0:11 Chris How how to survive a huge explosion in an ice cream truck?

0:11 Chris Hide in the freezer, of course.

0:12 Adam Exactly.

0:12 Chris And don't worry about gravity, how far they fell, that's that's fine.

0:12 Chris That's fine.

0:12 Lee Yeah.

0:12 Chris I did like the very end, the pies on their face.

0:12 Lee Yeah.

0:12 Adam Well, not only that, but also everyone knows that an old fridge can survive anything.

0:12 Adam That's why they used to put public information films about not locking your mate in a fridge.

0:12 Adam Because even with like diamond tip drills.

0:12 Lee Yeah.

0:12 Chris You ain't getting them out.

0:12 Adam Yeah, that was it.

0:12 Adam They they were trapped forever, mummified.

0:13 Lee Yeah.

0:13 Lee What again Dave is a very similar character.

0:13 Lee In that he is trying to do the right thing, but he's just fairly ineffectual, really.

0:13 Adam Yeah.

0:13 Adam Although at least I think obviously.

0:13 Adam Because obviously Moony is definitely part of the list of funny coppers of Film Land.

0:14 Adam because for a start he he makes the film in, you know, he is the most entertaining.

0:14 Adam He's the most entertaining human.

0:15 Lee Yeah.

0:15 Adam but it's also it's also that sort of thing of being yet another in a long line of American films.

0:16 Adam Particularly came out in the 80s, I don't know whether it was well, I do, I kind of get what it was, but of a small town in America.

0:17 Adam And chaos turns up to actually sort of.

0:17 Adam You know, basically a gang.

0:18 Chris They are not prepared to deal with any of this.

0:18 Adam No.

0:18 Adam It's like.

0:18 Adam No, but it's like Gremlins.

0:18 Adam It's like Critters.

0:18 Adam You know, it's just like this.

0:18 Adam Basically, it it's the same thing as all that.

0:18 Adam Panic, it's almost the same as the panic about.

0:18 Adam Oh, bikers are going to turn up and fuck everything up.

0:19 Lee Yeah.

0:19 Adam You know.

0:19 Lee Yeah.

0:19 Adam That is actually one of my favorite sequences as well.

0:19 Adam It's just outside the biker club.

0:19 Lee Yeah.

0:19 Adam Where they smash his bike up, and then he just punches his face off.

0:20 Lee He's clean off.

0:20 Chris You're going to knock my block off.

0:20 Adam Apparently, yeah.

0:20 Adam Yeah, well, because there's lots.

0:20 Adam There's lots of bits in that.

0:20 Adam It's like Moony saying, you're not going to make a dummy of me.

0:21 Adam And then obviously they go.

0:21 Adam So.

0:21 Lee He's he's a very slapstick humor.

0:21 Lee But a lot like it never, I say it never gets silly.

0:21 Lee Of course, it is fairly, but like it's yeah.

0:22 Lee There's something about it that isn't too slapstick, cuz I can find slapstick sometimes just tedious.

0:23 Lee but yeah.

0:23 Lee But this walks a really nice line of keeping it sort of not too ridiculous.

0:24 Lee And you know, the gore and stuff is good as well.

0:24 Lee Which again sort of helps keep it less daft in a funny way.

0:25 Chris Well, balanced.

0:25 Adam Claire referred to it as Looney Tunes.

0:25 Lee Yeah.

0:25 Adam And it is that because that's kind of what clowns you need that.

0:26 Adam It's clowns, they kind of have to be all sort of over the top and sound effects and sort of ridiculousness.

0:26 Adam You know, lots of and that kind of everything has to be sort of that cartoonish level of sort of violence or whatever.

0:27 Adam You know.

0:27 Adam And and actually and The Terranzy brothers.

0:28 Adam They're actually that's a they're a double act or were a double act.

0:28 Lee Okay.

0:29 Adam Called and they did they like used to do like a comedy show.

0:29 Adam Something called a TV sketch film called Cheeseball Presents.

0:30 Adam But I don't know if you remember this, do you remember Packing Them In, which was like a variety comedy show that used to be on Channel 4?

0:31 Adam And it was Jenny and Frank Skinner played two people who were running a theater.

0:32 Lee Oh.

0:32 Lee I remember that.

0:32 Adam Yeah, and they used to just put acts on but it would be like English, American acts.

0:32 Adam And apparently they ran an episode of that, and they did The Paul Daniels Magic Show and shit.

0:33 Adam

0:34 Adam And

0:34 Adam Michael Sieger who played Rich moved to the UK in the 90s and he's now he just now crops up in all the usual places that acts have appeared in Britain.

0:35 Adam Like Midsomer Murders and casually and things like that.

0:35 Adam And, whereas Peter unfortunately,

0:36 Adam He unfortunately took his own life in 2020 because apparently he'd had suffered from depression for years.

0:37 Adam So which is which is sad.

0:37 Adam And what way went this jolly movie that we've been talking about.

0:38 Chris Yes.

0:38 Adam Here here I come, here I come with the mallet behind my back of that sad news.

0:38 Adam But forever immortalized as The Terranzy brothers, you know, they they.

0:39 Adam Again, although Claire was very disappointed that any teenager would not want an ice cream van around.

0:40 Lee Yeah.

0:41 Lee Yeah.

0:41 Lee Like, yeah, I mean, it's a crazy idea.

0:41 Lee But it does make me laugh, yeah, that they just start throwing beer cans at you.

0:42 Lee You just ignore them, surely, you've got better things to but, you know.

0:43 Adam I I've worked it out though is because obviously, whenever there's a makeout point, it's always a thing for the police come.

0:43 Adam Right, all of you breaking up everything.

0:44 Adam So maybe it was just like, we don't need a fucking set of chimes and a screaming megaphone while we're trying to do this.

0:45 Adam You know.

0:46 Lee

0:46 Lee But yeah, it's it's just one of those great fun classic, it's a great late night film.

0:47 Lee It's one of those that's great if you've got people over and you need something mental on in the background.

0:48 Lee It it's yeah, it's ideal, really.

0:49 Lee I've definitely.

0:49 Adam It would be ideal to stick on a Halloween party.

0:50 Adam It's just a visual.

0:50 Chris Yeah, definitely.

0:50 Adam And and actually the weirdest thing is because they did a they had a themed Killer Klowns from Outer Space zone at the Halloween Horror Night at Universal Orlando in 2018.

0:51 Adam and they've turned they turned it into a full haunted house in 2019 and then they recreated it in 2022.

0:53 Adam at Universal Hollywood.

0:53 Adam And as long as I mean, they've obviously always talked about sequel.

0:54 Adam But obviously, there's a game coming out fairly soon.

0:55 Lee Yeah.

0:55 Lee That looks that looks I've not really a fan of online co-op games.

0:56 Lee Unfortunately, otherwise, I would 100% be behind that, because it looks stunning.

0:57 Lee So.

0:57 Adam And you get to be the clowns, which is which let's face it is the only way that you want a horror adaption.

0:58 Adam Yeah, you know, if there if there's a I don't know if there is one, there probably is, but if there's a computer game of Nightmare on Elm Street, you want to be Freddy.

0:59 Adam You don't want to be.

0:01 Lee Yeah, you don't want to be one of the victims.

0:01 Lee No, yeah.

0:01 Adam You just.

0:01 Adam So, so they've got it the right way around, yeah.

0:01 Lee Definitely.

0:01 Lee And again, I'm kind of glad they didn't do a sequel, because it works perfectly on its own, and it would be one of those that just gets watered down and messed about with.

0:01 Lee So I yeah, I think they made the right call.

0:01 Adam Yeah, although apparently Grant Kramer who plays Mike and Suzanne Snyder who played Debbie are back for the game.

0:01 Lee Oh, cool.

0:01 Adam Which is pretty cool, so yeah.

0:01 Lee Excellent.

0:01 Lee so as we mentioned, we are not doing this film in conjunction with another in a themed month.

0:01 Lee because we've got something rather exciting for our next episode, we are very lucky to have been given the opportunity.

0:01 Lee We're going to be covering Burnt Flowers, which is Michael Fousty's new movie.

0:01 Chris Oh, excellent.

0:01 Lee he's worked on a few films that we've been watching recently, lower budget stuff, so the video shop tales of Taro, which we've been discussing.

0:01 Adam And he was the.

0:01 Lee Cover at some point.

0:01 Adam And and he was the captain, who has to speak to.

0:01 Adam in Tales from the Great War.

0:01 Lee Yes.

0:01 Adam He was the captain who's on the phone to and then he just cheats him.

0:01 Lee Yeah.

0:01 Lee yes, so we're going to be covering that next, we are covering a lot more of these independent movies recently, I'm sure you've all noticed.

0:02 Lee it's we've found.

0:02 Lee we it's one of those things we've gotten into a vein and realized how much of this and once you start discovering it and then following it down the rabbit hole.

0:02 Lee So we're taking you all with us on this, and, you know, as we've said before.

0:02 Lee The beauty of independent film as it is, is that there's no studio interference, you've got no one dicking about telling you, oh, well, if you change this, you'll get a bigger audience.

0:02 Lee So it's a much more pure vision of the filmmakers idea, really.

0:02 Lee yeah, which is something that really appeals to us.

0:02 Lee So we are yeah, following this current trend that we're on at the moment of these lower budget films and this circle of filmmakers who are doing stuff.

0:02 Adam And and they've just been very generous to let us have the opportunity to see him, so, you know, we want to.

0:02 Adam We want to see him spread the word, you know, and yeah, and and not only that, but also we've had a pretty good hit rate so far with a lot of these.

0:03 Adam You know, we've we've enjoyed we've enjoyed the the stuff that we've given.

0:03 Adam So, you know, hoping the trend continues.

0:03 Chris Yeah.

0:03 Lee Fingers crossed.

0:03 Adam Right, but rest assured, we will also do stuff that you can pick up in a bargain bin for 5 quid as well.

0:03 Adam Or or or shit that you've seen a billion times before.

0:03 Adam So.

0:03 Lee Yeah, that's what it.

0:03 Lee Yeah.

0:03 Lee Films that are so old, they're on YouTube and nobody cares.

0:03 Adam Yeah, because everyone involved is dead.

0:03 Lee Just put your hammer away.

0:03 Adam Sorry.

0:03 Lee Thanks for listening, everybody.

0:03 Lee Go and check out Kill Klowns from Outer Space, if you haven't seen it, or if you just haven't seen it for a long time.

0:03 Lee It's a good one to remind yourself on.

0:03 Adam Yeah, always always a great rewatch.

0:03 Lee Yeah, and we'll be back in a fortnight's time with Burnt Flowers.

0:03 Lee Thanks very much for listening.

0:03 Lee Good night.

0:03 Chris Good night.

0:03 Adam Yeah, night.