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0:26 Lee Good evening and welcome to horror. I'm Lee.

0:29 Chris I'm Chris.

0:30 Adam I'm Adam.

0:32 Lee And we are here as a special bonus episode after we were all so cheeky and took the whole of the Christmas and New Year period off. and we've all watched a metric shittonn of stuff. So we've come back to discuss it all now without having to compress it all so it doesn't interfere with the runtime on our normal episodes.

0:54 Lee So, without further ado, Chris, what have you been watching?

0:58 Lee Oh, and before I do, spoilers and swearing as always is a warning. Sorry about that.

1:45 Chris Yeah, that's interesting.

1:46 Chris Right, so, so we normally try not to spoil these films too much because people don't really know.

1:52 Chris So I'm, I'm keeping it a little,

1:56 Chris it depends, older, older stuff, I think, can be spoiled, yeah.

2:00 Chris But newer stuff I'm going to be a bit more careful with, right?

2:02 Chris So I'm starting with the one that really is the new one.

2:06 Chris although all three of mine, I've really enjoyed, obviously that's what I'm talking about, but it's possible to watch some you might not enjoy, but anyway, right.

2:14 Chris So the first one is The Devs mini-series from 2020.

2:19 Chris So I'm only a year, year past this one.

2:21 Chris That's a year and a bit, that's pretty good.

2:23 Chris I think I watched it just before the New Year.

2:27 Chris So, so it's a mini-series, by Alex Garland.

2:32 Chris Famous for Ex Machina, Annihilation, which we covered.

2:39 Adam We've covered.

2:40 Lee We do need to, we do need to.

2:42 Chris we must have talked about it quite a bit.

2:44 Chris Because I watched it, so in my head we've covered it.

2:47 Chris So either you talked about it so much.

2:48 Chris I was like, right, I'm watching that, and we didn't actually end up covering it.

2:52 Chris Okay.

2:52 Chris And but 28 Days Later we did cover.

2:55 Adam Yes, we did, yeah.

2:56 Chris And,

2:57 Chris and also The Beach, which I'm told I should definitely watch.

3:01 Chris But it's been so many years now.

3:04 Chris So one day I guess I will.

3:06 Chris Have you have you seen that?

3:08 Lee No.

3:09 Adam I've not seen The Beach. I again, it's I think that was the point where I sort of drifted away from Danny Boyle's stuff and only previously because up until that point I'd been like, I'd watched everything that had come out because I love Shallow Grave and 28 Days Later and Trainspotting and everything.

3:24 Adam But yeah, I think The Beach was, I think it was also probably because it was like, no watching Leonardo the fucking DiCaprio.

3:29 Lee Fuck up.

3:30 Adam But, interestingly enough, you are ahead of me, Chris.

3:32 Adam Because I started Devs, but I think I either got as far as episode three or four.

3:37 Adam I can't remember.

3:38 Chris Okay.

3:38 Adam I really should have kept going with it, but I, I, I don't know why I did.

3:43 Chris You must have got sidetracked with something else.

3:44 Chris Or, well, you you may you may relate to some of what I say here.

3:47 Chris so so I think I've mentioned it before because we started to watch it and it stood out to me.

3:52 Chris But obviously it took us a while to finish the whole lot.

3:54 Chris But, I would say unless you're really into, you know, current state of computing, it might be a bit of a hard watch potentially.

4:02 Chris And also, you know, so if you enjoy thinking about the nature of reality along with theoretical physics and science and technology, you probably will like it, but it it it does push the boundaries of of disbelief somewhat.

4:19 Chris Now, you I think, I think I would say on the whole, I felt it was worth getting through to the end.

4:24 Chris I loved the way it riffed on the idea of good and evil, because the characters it's it's not obvious who is good and who is evil and yet bad things are happening.

4:32 Chris And it's like, well, why, you know, how can this be going on if no one appears to actually be truly, you know, having a scheme to cause pain on others, and yet pain is happening, and so throughout it's like the circumstances that happen and everyone's roles on how they interact, and it's like, I really don't want to be causing you this amount of pain.

4:50 Chris But because of the information they have, they kind of have to.

4:55 Chris And that's that's the crucial bit, which I don't really want to give away, like it's,

5:01 Chris essentially, I best suppose the best way to say it is it's a bit like time travel.

5:07 Chris Any time you introduce time travel into a film, you kind of makes it really difficult to like if you can either tell what's going to happen in the future or in the past, then

5:15 Chris it's going to change what you do and you might take actions that would otherwise seem really bad and really inciting, when actually you know you have to do them.

5:22 Chris And so it's it's really I found it fascinating.

5:25 Chris And the way it played with that.

5:27 Chris It does also mean it's that pushing the disbelief, because obviously we never experienced that in real life.

5:33 Chris It's like you don't know if that's how it would really happen.

5:35 Chris So you kind of have to say, right, within this framework, it works.

5:39 Chris but yeah, no.

5:41 Chris So I I did really enjoy it all the way to the end.

5:43 Chris it did have, and I might mention this before,

5:46 Chris this really stood out to me a scene in it that I just replayed it over in my head again and again.

5:52 Chris where somebody is in a car crash and it is just like, Hereditary.

5:57 Chris Like it's it had enough of a build up for me that it was like, that's I didn't exactly see that coming quite like that.

6:02 Chris even though you get a sense of something bad is going on.

6:05 Chris yeah, just whenever somebody manages to have that effect in a film.

6:11 Chris Like that just really works for me.

6:12 Chris I love the fact that it it makes you really think.

6:16 Chris You know, almost question your own actions, I find, it's like, yeah, okay, I could see how that could potentially happen to anyone.

6:22 Chris And and yeah, being aware of the consequences.

6:27 Chris you know, it's a difficult thing.

6:29 Chris Hindsight is fantastic.

6:30 Chris But trying to foright.

6:32 Chris That's the thing to do.

6:34 Chris So yeah, so I absolutely recommend it for.

6:37 Chris For dark physics.

6:40 Chris then the other ones I watched a bit more fun.

6:44 Chris Shaun of the Dead.

6:45 Lee Nice.

6:46 Chris I know both of you have seen this.

6:47 Chris Cuz I'm sure we've mentioned it many times and in fact, I think we said we're going to cover it at some point.

6:52 Lee Definitely.

6:53 Chris And I would happily watch it, you know, just like, right.

6:55 Chris Like I, you know, I remembered it being good, just didn't remember how good it was.

6:59 Chris Like it still holds up so well and I mean it's it's and also I I I remember it still was being fairly new.

7:03 Chris Like it feels like a newish comedy horror that was big and it but it's like I think it was 2004 now.

7:09 Adam Yeah, he's ridiculously old now, but yeah.

7:11 Chris but yeah, I mean the comedy is fantastically.

7:15 Adam We all we all have.

7:16 Chris Well, yeah.

7:17 Chris But you know, like some of the scenes, so good and like the one where he's he's just woken up, it's like the next day and obviously you've had hints of it all throughout.

7:24 Chris And that's done really nicely and then he's walking through the streets just not noticing anything and it's like it's just it's so funny to watch him.

7:31 Chris

7:32 Chris yeah.

7:33 Chris And and and also I'd totally forgotten how brutal some of the killing of the zombies is.

7:39 Chris I'd remembered it as being much more just fun.

7:41 Chris And then the first woman that they kill, when he sort of pushes her back.

7:47 Chris And she falls back on the the the the wire girl post.

7:50 Lee Yeah.

7:50 Lee On the wire, go.

7:52 Chris Yeah, and they're just standing there like,

7:55 Chris okay, this is this has gone, you know, very wrong here.

8:00 Chris yeah, like it's it's fantastic.

8:02 Chris So I really enjoyed that and definitely would like to cover it in more detail.

8:06 Chris now the third one,

8:09 Chris right?

8:10 Chris I'm going to say it.

8:11 Chris Starship Troopers.

8:12 Chris Now,

8:13 Chris have either of you seen this?

8:15 Adam I have not, although I feel I should have done.

8:18 Lee Don't think so.

8:18 Chris That's interesting.

8:20 Chris Okay.

8:21 Chris Well, all right.

8:23 Chris So, in my head, I remember it as a kind of a spoof sci-fi action with horror-ish elements.

8:29 Chris You know, but but mostly it's an Aliens Predator kind of action sci-fi.

8:34 Chris Right, but I always think of it as it's almost like two parts, I feel, like.

8:41 Chris The first part is is a bit more funny, but then it does get deeper towards the end.

8:49 Chris And I just always forget about that.

8:51 Chris And as I'm watching, I'm like, actually, this is getting really good.

8:52 Chris And I just thought it was just going to be a really simple, you know,

8:57 Chris a little bit of entertainment, just to watch in the background.

9:02 Chris and it is it's it's hard to sort of get across exactly how it is a spoof.

9:11 Chris But it's it's definitely like it's it's over the top.

9:16 Chris In in the way it presents.

9:17 Chris Like a lot of the dialogue.

9:20 Chris It's it's a lot of what sound like one liners.

9:22 Chris So it's like, they're not saying anything in depth for a long time.

9:26 Chris But it somehow it still kind of works.

9:29 Chris

9:30 Chris but yeah, it's essentially like the humans are in an existential crisis against aliens.

9:36 Chris But they're essentially viewed as just big bugs.

9:38 Chris So they have weird things like news reports and and again, they're so over the top.

9:43 Chris Like everything feels almost like plastic, sugary reality.

9:47 Adam Is because isn't it isn't isn't it Paul Verhoeven? Like the director.

9:55 Chris I don't know, yeah.

9:58 Adam Because.

9:59 Chris Yes, it is.

10:00 Chris I don't know what else he's done, though.

10:02 Adam Because because he did, Robocop.

10:08 Chris Oh, okay.

10:09 Chris And that's obviously Robocop does have a bit of a.

10:12 Adam Because it has that over the top thing, particularly like the adverts and the.

10:17 Lee Oh, buy that for a dollar.

10:18 Chris Yeah, no, that totally makes sense then.

10:20 Chris Yeah.

10:21 Chris You're right, I'd forgotten about those.

10:22 Lee I need to watch it.

10:23 Adam And that's the that's the terms in which I've had Starship Troopers recommended to me.

10:30 Chris Yeah.

10:30 Adam I when I've sort of read about it online, that's the bit that's interests me.

10:33 Adam They've sort of said it follows in it's in that same sort of.

10:37 Chris Yeah.

10:38 Adam Because like Robocop you can watch as a straight film, but it's also a spoof and a critique, satire, whatever.

10:46 Adam And.

10:47 Chris And of how like future is becoming somewhat dystopian.

10:51 Adam Yeah.

10:52 Chris Because it's essentially I mean it kind of Starship Troopers kind of shows humans in a bad light.

10:56 Chris Like it doesn't show us as wonderful, even though we're fighting against, you know, another race that essentially doesn't want to wipe us out.

11:02 Chris We're kind of also really, really keen and gunned up to to, you know, wipe them out as fast as possible with as many nukes and it's so yeah.

11:09 Chris That's I think that's what gives it that kind of plasticky feel.

11:14 Chris But that's where as the depth starts to come in, you sort of appreciate it or at least appreciate it more.

11:20 Chris completely getting there.

11:22 Chris Yeah, one of the ads it just shows kids stamping on cockroaches.

11:27 Chris As a sort of, you know, a public service announcement to get everyone keen on killing the the the bugs.

11:33 Chris And then there's a woman laughing maniacally in the background of it.

11:36 Chris She's yeah, it is.

11:38 Chris For me, for some some reason, it works really well.

11:41 Chris So it's one of those I just always forget.

11:42 Chris I watch it sort of I think I've seen it four times now.

11:45 Chris And every time kind of forget that it's it's got a bit more to it.

11:49 Chris

11:50 Lee I'm going to have.

11:50 Chris I've never seen.

11:51 Adam I'm going to have to check it out because if you if you've watched it multiple times, so I know that you like it. I really feel I've got to watch it.

11:59 Chris I just I remember it as being fun and forgetting that there is a bit extra there to appreciate, you know, as the film unfolds.

12:06 Adam Which is essentially the what I go to Robocop for.

12:10 Chris Yeah, yeah.

12:11 Chris Nice, yeah.

12:14 Chris So yeah, that's that's my three.

12:17 Lee Excellent, well done, you have been busy.

12:20 Lee Adam, would you like to go next?

12:23 Adam I'll go next, I've got a few.

12:25 Adam first off, I've really got to talk about Woodlands Dark and Days Bewitched, which is is turned up on Shudder now.

12:35 Adam I got the Blu-ray from Severin.

12:38 Adam And it arrived what I think it arrived like Christmas Eve.

12:43 Adam So it was and I'd been shitting myself because obviously it was an import and then it's Christmas post and fucking charges for Brexit and whatever else bullshit they'll give you as a reason not to fucking deliver your parcel.

12:58 Adam so I was very pleased when that sort of turned up.

13:01 Adam when that turned up just in time and I was like, yes.

13:05 Lee Santa works his magic there.

13:07 Adam Santa did, yeah, I've I've clearly I've clearly been an adequate boy this year.

13:13 Adam I would I would last year, I would I would hesitate to use the term good.

13:17 Adam But, and basically it's a documentary on folk horror.

13:26 Adam And it was it it's really, really well done.

13:29 Adam one of my favorite things about it is now, there's a thing, I don't know if you've seen it, quite quite a lot of the times now with people are talking about folk horror online.

13:40 Adam They always say, folk horror, a term first coined by Mark Gatiss in the in his history of horror series.

13:49 Adam And when I first saw that, I was like, oh, that must be true.

13:52 Adam I'm sure I'd heard it before, but maybe I'm, you know, I'm clearly misremembering it.

14:00 Adam You know, I don't want to Mandela effect it and claim that I'm so important that time fucking slipped a groove.

14:04 Adam But only I didn't notice.

14:06 Adam

14:07 Adam sorry, anyway.

14:07 Adam but then Jonathan Rigby, who was one of the consultants on that show who is like, he's, you'd know him if you saw him.

14:17 Adam He's a very stern looking man, bald and

14:23 Adam but he's got just a lovely voice.

14:26 Adam He really and and he's he did like the the good the BFI Rapturey film.

14:33 Adam

14:40 Adam

14:41 Adam and he's done lots of stuff with various members of the league.

14:43 Adam And,

14:44 Adam yeah.

14:45 Adam And he wrote a really good book called, English Gothic, which is like, basically could be a Bible for this show, certainly in terms of British horror.

14:54 Adam It just had that's where I discovered things like mutations and, just loads and loads of stuff and got more of an insight into like the Hammer series and how they actually were supposed to run and things like that.

15:09 Adam But, and but yeah, anyway, Jonathan Rigby's on this documentary.

15:13 Adam And he does mention that it's actually from his own book American Gothic, which was the follow-up, where he first used the term.

15:21 Adam And I kind of feel his whole appearance there is to say, it's not fucking Mark Gatiss, I fucking came up with that, the cheeky bastard.

15:33 Adam Just because he's fucking Mycroft Holmes.

15:35 Adam Doesn't mean that you should believe everything you see on the internet.

15:39 Adam and and then in fairness does mention times earlier when the phrase folk horror has been mentioned, but it still does feel like he's having a dig at his mate.

15:48 Adam That it's like like, fuck you.

15:49 Adam

15:51 Adam You invented folk horror my arse.

15:51 Adam So,

15:52 Adam but besides that.

15:54 Adam I was the director's, I think it's Yunice or Yanish.

16:01 Adam I'm not sure.

16:02 Adam and yeah, basically it's three hours long.

16:05 Adam So set aside.

16:07 Adam You know, set that time aside, get a fucking pen and paper because there is going to be stuff you want to find out more about.

16:14 Lee Yeah, that's what I did. I came away with a huge list of stuff that needs watching.

16:18 Adam Yeah, yeah.

16:20 Adam Oh,

16:20 Adam so you've seen it?

16:21 Lee Yeah, yeah, I saw it.

16:22 Adam What did you think? It's fucking it's great, you know, I was really.

16:26 Lee Yeah, I loved it.

16:27 Lee I mean,

16:28 Lee as you say, you know, the and as they say in the the documentary itself, you know, folk horror is generally mentioned when in conjunction with a handful of films, but actually, if you apply it properly, there's so much more stuff.

16:40 Lee And it goes into all the, you know, the Japanese stuff and all, oh yeah, and I came away with a dirty great list that could definitely bankrupt me if I'm not careful.

16:45 Adam Well, I mean,

16:48 Adam there's a part of me, I mean, particularly a lot of the telly stuff they were talking about, it was really good because I was like, I've seen that, I've got that, I've seen that.

16:57 Adam Then obviously they mentioned Doctor Who and the Demons and I think at that point I'd have to go and change my underwear.

17:02 Adam And but but also, yeah, there was loads of films that I hadn't seen.

17:08 Adam because there's stuff in there like V.

17:09 Adam We need to cover on the show because that is a fucking great film.

17:12 Adam Just because of how strange it is, like the Polish or Russian film.

17:19 Adam

17:21 Adam and but also, yeah, so I I came away, I came away with with the list from that.

17:26 Adam And I've I've always I've been having a sort of oddly Australian Ostion thing in my head lately that I've been sort of like, oh yeah, I must watch Turkey Shoot again and I must do this and I must do that.

17:36 Adam so I watched a film called Allison's Birthday.

17:42 Adam Which is because that's the other great thing is Shudder have put up loads of the films that they mentioned in that in the documentary.

17:53 Adam Yeah.

17:56 Adam So,

17:57 Adam we unfortunately over here we haven't got quite as many as they have in the US, usual story.

18:03 Adam But there's a good 30 odd films that they've got, they either already had or they've put in a folk horror, or they've obtained and put up on this folk horror collection.

18:12 Adam And yeah, I watched Allison's Birthday, which is from 1981, directed by Ian Coughlin.

18:22 Adam and it's got,

18:24 Adam it's got John Bleuthall in it, who you will know from various comedy shows, he's like in the Vicar of Dibley and used to appear with Spike Milligan a lot and stuff like that.

18:34 Adam And he is, yeah, nicely sort of villainous in it.

18:39 Adam Because he sort of comes across a nice genteel old fella, and then the steel comes in and you're like, oh, fuck it hell, yeah, you could be quite a nasty bastard.

18:47 Adam and the main character Allison is played by Mrs. Mad Max.

18:51 Adam The woman who gets the I can't remember Mrs. Mad Max's name.

18:55 Adam But Joanna Samuel, played Mrs. Mad Max, who obviously then dies and changes him from slightly miffed Max to full steaming Mad Max, and yeah, that's when he goes off on one, you know, so any little thing with these people.

19:08 Adam And,

19:10 Adam but Allison's Birthday is.

19:12 Adam I I it's a TV movie, but I think it was one of those things where they saw what they had and someone put a bit more money in and said they could do a theatrical release possibly.

19:20 Adam But it's sort of it's in the same sort of vein as say Hereditary or Rosemary's Baby is that thing of sort of people being used unwittingly by a satanic or a cult cult.

19:34 Adam

19:36 Adam and basically it starts off with Allison and her two friends.

19:38 Adam Doing a Ouija board, one of them gets possessed by the ghost of her dad.

19:42 Adam And tells her to not go home on her 19th birthday.

19:45 Adam And bloody hell.

19:46 Adam Allison goes home on her 19th birthday to her aunt and uncle's place and her aunt and uncle are really nice, but they do have a miniature stone hinge at the bottom of their garden.

19:52 Adam And yeah, it's all,

19:56 Adam there's a weird thing to it because it because it's a bit TV movie, it it oddly creeps it up more, like say with even though I love it, with Hereditary.

20:09 Adam You know, it's obvious from the start that like, this is creepy.

20:14 Adam This is horrible.

20:16 Adam Whereas this is like.

20:17 Adam This is like sort of like.

20:19 Chris You don't.

20:19 Adam I mean.

20:20 Adam Yeah.

20:20 Adam Yeah, this feels more like you.

20:22 Adam You come in in the afternoon and there's an Australian soap.

20:24 Adam And then slowly you go, what's going on?

20:29 Adam And.

20:29 Chris And also don't.

20:30 Adam Tell me.

20:31 Chris

20:31 Chris I'm scared.

20:32 Adam It's.

20:32 Adam No.

20:33 Adam It's not even that.

20:34 Adam It's it's so sort of plain that it oddly makes it creepier because it feels more like it's happening.

20:42 Adam Rather than, well, I don't live in a big nothing house with my wife who makes miniatures of traumatic family events and etc, etc, etc.

20:49 Adam Whereas this is more sort of like, you know, these people just live in ordinary houses, but they also happen to be a satanic cult.

20:55 Adam And, you know, and but yeah, I would and so yeah, because of that, I would recommend it.

21:01 Adam You know, that's that's definitely one.

21:04 Adam And I'm going to go and.

21:05 Adam Obviously watch more from the the the folk horror stuff on Shutter.

21:09 Adam

21:10 Lee Eye of the Devil is the one that caught my attention.

21:15 Lee Oh.

21:15 Adam Oh, yes.

21:16 Lee And I went and spent a lot of time searching for it and couldn't find it, you know, a reasonable price anywhere that I could justify to myself.

21:22 Lee And then discovered it's on YouTube in its entirety, so yeah, I'll be having that.

21:26 Adam Speaking of on YouTube in its entirety, I cannot ignore the fact that I watched a film called Nomads from 1986.

21:35 Adam with Pierce Brosnan and what can only be described as an outrageous French accent.

21:42 Lee

21:43 Adam Like it's it's like it you're sort of listening to it and you're going, this this is probably racist, but I'm not sure who too.

21:53 Chris It's Monty Python Holy Grail.

21:55 Adam Yeah, it is.

21:58 Adam He manages to insult most of Europe.

22:01 Adam As he sort of struggles to be this.

22:03 Adam

22:05 Adam French anthropologist.

22:07 Adam

22:09 Adam and basically, but here's the weirdest fucking thing.

22:13 Adam Is it's directed by John Mctiernan.

22:15 Adam And this film is the reason that he got to do Predator.

22:22 Adam Like Arnie saw Nomads and was like.

22:24 Adam Right, that's the guy to do Predator.

22:27 Adam Because and it's the weirdest fucking thing.

22:28 Adam Basically, well, it's a doctor who works working in a hospital, surprise, surprise, and Pierce Brosnan's bought brought in, shouting in French.

22:37 Adam And she goes and like talks to him and then he dies.

22:41 Adam And then she's possessed by him probably, and that's it's that sort of a film.

22:48 Adam She's probably possessed by him or something, or his spirit is making her hallucinate the last few weeks of his life.

22:54 Adam In what I can only describe as the most fucking extraneous plot device ever.

23:00 Adam Because just show us what happened to Pierce Brosnan.

23:02 Adam Because.

23:03 Adam Because that's what you're doing.

23:04 Adam But you're doing it through this woman hallucinating what happened, but yeah.

23:11 Adam But there's no sort of mystery to it.

23:13 Adam It's quite straightforward.

23:15 Adam and basically, but he's meant to be an anthropologist who studied Nomads across the globe and things like that and then realizes that there's like a street gang.

23:27 Adam Who ride around in a big black 18 van, one of whom is Adam Ant, so it gives you the level of street punk.

23:34 Adam That we're talking here.

23:35 Adam You know, far far too pretty street punks, but, they,

23:40 Adam but basically yeah, they're like.

23:43 Adam They're.

23:44 Adam They're so they're basically actually what what this would have been is it would have been a brilliant prequel to Near Dark.

23:52 Adam Because they kind of present the Nomads as they're a bit like the vampires in Near Dark.

23:57 Adam They basically just ride around, fuck with people and kill them.

24:00 Adam And yeah.

24:02 Adam But yeah.

24:03 Adam It's but it's a fucking bizarre movie.

24:06 Adam And I'm not going to say it's good, but it's really, really compelling.

24:10 Adam So I think that's the John McTiernan thing.

24:13 Adam He just hasn't he can't shoot a shit film.

24:15 Adam You know, I mean, obviously like he makes he he goes on to make Die Hard and and the Predator, so he knows how to shoot like action and.

24:22 Adam Yeah.

24:22 Adam But yeah, it's just a fucking bizarre one.

24:25 Adam But it's definitely but it's free on YouTube, so go and watch it because.

24:30 Adam It's I just want people to see it because it's just.

24:33 Adam It's it's a proper what the fuck.

24:35 Adam So.

24:39 Adam then I can't think what else.

24:43 Adam There was.

24:45 Adam Obviously we finished what we do in the Shadows.

24:48 Adam series three now.

24:50 Adam And, on a Matt Berry kick, Toast of Tinseltown has started.

24:55 Adam So, which is the follow-up to Toast of London that they're doing on the BBC.

24:59 Adam And, on that subject like with the Matt Berry connection as in, Susan Makoma from Year of the Rabbit.

25:07 Adam

25:08 Adam Netflix have just put up The House.

25:10 Adam Which is like a an an animated anthology film.

25:15 Adam

25:16 Adam like stop motion animation and it's the it's three tales from a house over three different periods of time.

25:20 Adam And it's.

25:24 Adam It's definitely not for kids.

25:25 Adam But not in the sort of it's not like Avenue Q.

25:29 Adam It's not because it's like got knobs and swearing in it.

25:30 Adam Or whatever like that.

25:31 Adam It's just kids probably wouldn't get it is the better way of putting it.

25:35 Adam But I do it does also have that feeling that I'd imagine one day a kid is going to be shown it in the same way that I was shown when the wind blows, like the Raymond Briggs anti-nuclear fucking cartoon.

25:49 Adam On the basis that, it's a cartoon, so it's for kids, isn't it?

25:55 Adam But no, clearly not because they melt at the end.

25:57 Adam In the, you know.

25:58 Adam It's it's tragic.

25:59 Adam But,

26:00 Lee Have we trace back your love of horror.

26:03 Adam Oh, it's definitely it's definitely got to be in there somewhere.

26:06 Adam But,

26:07 Adam yeah, similarly so you've got three stories, you've got the first story is quite sort of, feels like a traditional fairy story.

26:13 Adam It's basically it's a family who, they're, you know, they're sort of hard up and they have a mysterious benefactor who builds a house near them, and what they've got to do is they've got to go and live in the house.

26:25 Adam And food is prepared for them all the time and everything's fine.

26:29 Adam But they can't take any of their previous possessions with them.

26:33 Adam And they've got to and they've got to stay in the house.

26:34 Adam And then slowly it goes madder and madder because the house is being rebuilt and the parents get possessed and the daughter and is looking after like her little baby sister because the parents have basically been drawn into this weird nightmare.

26:44 Adam One of the characters in that is played by Mark Heap.

26:48 Lee Cool.

26:49 Adam And.

26:50 Adam Who.

26:51 Adam You know, just is the modern Donald Pleasence.

26:55 Adam And,

26:57 Adam yeah, but I mean and then you've got the second story is setting the present day and it's a a rat who is a building contractor, who is trying to sort of trying to do up a house to sell it on.

27:14 Adam And.

27:16 Adam basically there's like an infestation of cockroaches, there was and so on and so forth.

27:22 Adam And it's a very weird, creepy little sort of gets under your skin sort of feeling to it.

27:27 Adam and it the rat is voiced by Jarvis Cocker.

27:31 Adam And he's really fucking good.

27:33 Adam And it's it's yeah, just that that one sort of is yeah, as I say, it's because it's an anthropomorphized rat.

27:46 Adam It's suddenly gone a bit weirder and you're sort of, but you just get drawn into the story in the end.

27:53 Adam You're like, oh no, this is just the story of a building contract who's having shit go wrong.

27:56 Adam Not.

27:57 Lee This is a real who's a rat.

27:59 Adam Yeah.

28:00 Adam And.

28:00 Adam So.

28:00 Adam And similarly and the full story and the third story rather is set in the future and it's similar, but it's all anthropomorphized cats.

28:08 Adam And basically it's one of them owns the house and rents it out to two other cats, but neither of them can pay the rent and one of them, one of them just, oh yeah, and this is set in the future where the world is drowned.

28:20 Adam And the house is one of the few things high enough that it's not in the in the water.

28:25 Adam and yeah, one of the tenants catches fish, that's how he pays his rent.

28:31 Adam And the other one is an old hippie cat, played by Helen Bonham Carter, who just hands over like.

28:38 Adam precious stones, you know, sort of like.

28:42 Adam Oh, this this this will improve your chakras and etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.

28:49 Adam And basically yeah, it's the sort of that getting all wound up.

28:51 Adam And then.

28:53 Adam her hippie boyfriend turns up, voiced by Paul Kay, and it's.

28:59 Adam Again.

29:00 Adam The best way I can describe it is it feels like all those roll like the recent roll doll stuff.

29:06 Adam Like Fantastic Mr. Fox and Coraline, well, that's Neil Gaiman.

29:09 Adam But yeah, Coraline and, James and the Giant Peach, it's in that sort of animation sort of feel to it.

29:15 Adam

29:17 Adam but it's kind of like Roll Doll's Tales of the Unexpected as the plot drivers.

29:25 Adam So yeah.

29:26 Adam It's a really weird combo and it but it's really, really, really worth checking out.

29:29 Lee I also got that recommendation from a previous guest on the show Dave.

29:33 Lee Chris and I spent the weekend with him at Horror on Sea, which we will mention at a later date.

29:40 Lee yeah, and in the foyer while we were waiting to go into the first film, he was saying he'd watched it and yeah, same as you, Adam, he was saying it's really strange, but really worth watching.

29:48 Lee So.

29:49 Lee Yeah, it's definitely on my my to watch list, once we finish all of the Hound of the Baskervilles that there are.

29:55 Adam

29:57 Adam other other bits I watched.

30:00 Adam

30:01 Adam Oh, I watched, I rewatched the documentary because I'd watched Allison's Birthday, I was then on an Oz kick, so I rewatched the documentary Not Quite Hollywood.

30:10 Adam I think I've talked about it before.

30:12 Adam But it's basically about the sort of 70s, 80s explosion of Australian cinema and you've got stuff in there like Mad Max and Turkey Shoot and,

30:20 Adam But also Howling Three the Marsupials.

30:23 Adam And you know.

30:25 Adam Some right classics.

30:27 Adam

30:28 Adam but on that there was a film called Next of Kin.

30:32 Adam Directed by Tony Williams from 1982.

30:36 Adam and bless her Claire got it for me on Blu-ray.

30:40 Adam Because I was watching it.

30:42 Adam And I was like, oh, that does look good.

30:43 Adam Didn't it?

30:43 Adam That one.

30:44 Adam And yeah, she chaffed off and ordered it for me, bless her.

30:47 Lee Oh.

30:48 Adam

30:48 Adam So I so I've watched that.

30:49 Adam And that's that's really good.

30:51 Adam It's.

30:52 Adam It's kind of because it was they said the bloke who directed it was basically he was obsessed with Hitchcock.

30:59 Adam And it's like.

31:00 Adam yeah, I can really see that.

31:02 Adam Because there's so many it just it's shot amazing.

31:05 Adam But basically it's kind of a bit Allison's Birthday.

31:08 Adam It's another thing where it's a girl returning home after her mother dies, she has inherited this old folk home.

31:15 Adam And yeah, just strange shit goes down.

31:18 Adam And it has even down to that that it's like the sort of thing of locked away mental relatives and things like that.

31:23 Adam That feels a bit Hitchcockian as well.

31:25 Adam

31:26 Adam But yeah, that's that's definitely worth checking out.

31:29 Adam If only for the scene when someone's looking through the bathroom door keyhole.

31:34 Adam I will say no more than that, but fuck me when you see it.

31:37 Adam You're like.

31:38 Adam Oh, yeah.

31:39 Lee Bastard.

31:40 Adam So.

31:42 Adam

31:43 Adam And.

31:43 Adam yeah, I think, I think that's pretty much I think that's pretty much covered everything.

31:49 Adam Apart from and I know this is something that you watched as well, Lee, Mark Gatiss's The Mistletoe or Misotin over Christmas.

31:58 Lee

31:58 Lee Yes, I was going to say, I think that's probably a good crossover one, yes.

32:02 Lee So, did you see it as well, Chris?

32:06 Chris I didn't.

32:07 Lee No.

32:08 Lee Well, you have got a treat in store.

32:10 Lee What did you make of it?

32:11 Lee Adam?

32:11 Chris Oh.

32:12 Adam I.

32:13 Adam I mean, compared to the last two sort of ghost stories for Christmas that we've had from Mark Gatiss and, you know, we, let's face it, we know this show loves Mark Gatiss, but yeah, the the modern day one he did with Simon Callow, I can't remember the Dead Room.

32:28 Lee Yeah.

32:29 Adam That that was I just didn't rate that much, if I'm honest.

32:32 Adam And then.

32:33 Adam They did Martin's Close, which was okay.

32:36 Adam But it just.

32:36 Lee It didn't talk, did it?

32:38 Lee There was nothing.

32:39 Lee I mean, especially seeing as the one before when it had done the Tractate Middoth, that was so good.

32:44 Lee I was I was kind of hoping to get back into that, which I mean, I think he did with this one, definitely.

32:49 Lee Yeah.

32:50 Lee But yeah, it left those other two as you say, just wanting something really, but we definitely got it this year.

32:56 Adam Course.

32:56 Lee Yeah.

32:56 Adam And I was and I know it's your favorite MR James story.

33:00 Adam So I was just so pleased because I was like.

33:02 Adam There was a part of me that was like, I don't want this to be whack, but equally I was like, and don't fuck up Lee's favorite.

33:07 Adam You know, I was I had a sense of propriety on your behalf.

33:10 Adam I was like, yes.

33:12 Adam So.

33:13 Adam But,

33:14 Adam no, I was I I thought that was, I thought they and also I just think.

33:20 Adam It was done much like how the Tractate Middoth was, it was just done so accurately to literally translating how the story go makes you feel to the screen of how the story should creep you out and everything else like that.

33:37 Adam Because I think because that's the thing I like with it is the fact that it's not just one person.

33:42 Adam And another person going, what, you talking about this, you know, it's that sort of thing where, you know, you have multiple witness.

33:51 Adam Which is actually quite rare with MR James.

33:58 Adam You know, you get people who you usually get the person who's affected by the madness or what the effect is on the or the the chosen victim, I suppose.

34:05 Adam Or whatever like that, or the,

34:09 Adam But yeah, it's rare in that sense that it's a few more people are joined into the psychosis, if you like.

34:15 Adam Or the, the supernatural event. Absolutely.

34:25 Lee Absolutely.

34:28 Lee It was and on such a small cast as well, I'm just looking at IMDB, there's only seven people in it.

34:34 Lee but yeah, just such a an amazing cast as well, it was just, oh, it was fantastic.

34:42 Lee It was really, really good.

34:44 Lee I say, I watched it as it went out.

34:47 Lee As I said before, this is the first thing I've watched live on TV, I think since I think we said inside number nine.

34:56 Adam Oh yeah, the Halloween the the live Halloween one.

34:58 Lee Yeah.

34:59 Lee Which was a few years ago.

35:01 Lee But I I had to see this as it went out, and I'm so glad I did it, it was absolutely fantastic, so, so good.

35:08 Lee It made my Christmas.

35:11 Chris Yeah, I like I like what Mark Gatiss says about it.

35:14 Chris It's delightful to be bringing a little seasonal unease to the nation once again.

35:18 Lee Well.

35:19 Adam I think.

35:20 Adam Well.

35:21 Adam Funnily enough, that's that is something that, I mean, again of what we watched over Christmas, I did basically churn through the ghost stories of Christmas, but I added in like Shout the Painter and ITB Cast and the Ruins and stuff where it was all like, these were these are kind of ghost stories for Christmas.

35:35 Adam Yeah.

35:35 Adam And and the Stone Tape, I just yeah, I just chewed through those and the the Lawrence Golden Clark ones and everything and it's yeah, it was.

35:47 Lee I just need to I do need to rewatch Calen the Painter.

35:51 Lee I've only seen it twice, but my God, it's good.

35:54 Adam Yeah.

35:55 Adam It's it's I think the thing again, it's that much the same as like with the the or I come to you, the Jonathan Miller one.

36:07 Adam Because it's because it's kind of a documentary or purporting to be a like a documentary, it it sort of has a different, slightly different feel to it.

36:16 Adam To the usual.

36:17 Adam Sort of.

36:18 Adam Because it's basically, this is the life story of a painter.

36:22 Adam Oh, and by the way, this happened.

36:24 Adam So it was.

36:25 Adam Yeah.

36:25 Lee Yeah.

36:26 Lee The only thing I did find was I recognized Francis Barber and I couldn't work out what I knew her from, and I still haven't quite worked it out. I think it's because it feels like I was saying to Chris just before we started recording.

36:39 Lee Every time she came on, I was like, I definitely have seen her in something, but I think I've seen her in the same thing a lot, and I couldn't for the life of me work it out, but when I went back through her back catalog, it's all like Midsummer Murders.

36:50 Lee So it I think it's that I see her on a regular basis.

36:52 Lee But as bit parts in loads of different stuff, and she's phenomenal.

36:56 Lee So.

36:56 Adam Yeah, no.

36:57 Adam She's brilliant.

36:58 Adam You might she was in, she was in the Red Dwarf episode Polymorph.

37:04 Lee

37:04 Lee Yes.

37:05 Adam And which is where I I think the first time I ever saw her.

37:10 Adam But yeah, she's.

37:11 Adam you also because I know you said you've been watching bits and pieces of psycho bitches and she turns up on that as well.

37:24 Adam Yeah.

37:24 Adam her, oh, fucking hell, her Queen, her Queen Mary is it was it no, it's not Queen Mary, it's, Queen Elizabeth is fucking terrifying.

37:36 Adam Where it's just her, what it's just,

37:42 Adam No.

37:43 Adam Things are meant to go in your fanny, they're not meant to come out.

37:50 Adam

37:54 Lee Oh, Claire's just said that she she remembers her mostly for seducing Moss in the IT Crow.

37:56 Adam Yeah.

37:57 Lee Yeah.

37:57 Lee Yes, I remember that as well, again, as I say, one of those she probably comes on my TV every year or so, but in something different.

38:04 Lee In a kind of small part.

38:05 Lee So it feels like I see her very regularly, but it's normally yeah.

38:08 Lee In very different cars.

38:11 Lee So.

38:13 Lee so following that, the next thing that I watched isn't exactly horror, but I think it definitely falls into that, into that catchment.

38:24 Lee we watched the 2020 TV show Dead Still.

38:29 Adam Oh, yes.

38:30 Lee Oh, yeah.

38:31 Adam So, how was that? Because I hadn't heard of it. Yeah.

38:35 Adam I hadn't heard of it. I googled it, and then I was like.

38:38 Adam There's a fucking show with Michael Smiley.

38:42 Adam I don't know about it.

38:43 Lee It's very, very good.

38:44 Lee So, Michael Smiley is, so it's all set in Ireland, sort of just for the turn of the century, I believe, and he's a photographer of the dead, so back when people didn't have photographs taken a lot, when somebody died, you would get a photographer in to come and take a photograph of that person often posed with the family so that you have something.

39:01 Adam That's sadly often usually children.

39:03 Lee Yes.

39:05 Lee but as the series progresses, there is a murderer who is murdering people and posing them and taking their photographs.

39:13 Lee So obviously the head of the local constabulary goes to Michael Smiley as the expert.

39:18 Lee And sort of says to him, you know, this is very much in your field.

39:22 Lee I want you to help me catch this person, and then it gets wrapped up in his story as well.

39:26 Lee So it turns out there's something between possibly him and the killer.

39:28 Lee That you don't quite know, and he's being very cagey, yeah, it was a fantastic series.

39:32 Lee Really, really, really good, so definitely get that on your watch list, Adam.

39:37 Adam is it still?

39:38 Lee Dead Still.

39:38 Lee Yeah.

39:39 Adam Dead Still, yeah.

39:41 Lee I also caught up with Ghostbusters Afterlife.

39:44 Adam Oh, yeah.

39:45 Lee Oh, yeah.

39:46 Lee

39:47 Lee So I thought that would be worth mentioning.

39:50 Lee I like, I liked it.

39:51 Chris The trailer looked pretty good.

39:53 Chris Okay.

39:54 Lee Yeah.

39:55 Lee I I I liked it.

39:57 Lee It was, I was worried that it was either going to be a terrible grab at nostalgia for the old, you know, for the original fans.

40:05 Lee and the trailer did look like it might just be sort of fan service.

40:10 Lee But I I totally enjoyed it. Now the story is far from original, I won't go any more into it than that, but once you've seen it, you'll you'll get what I mean.

40:17 Lee

40:19 Lee but I I thought they did a really good job.

40:22 Lee And it's Paul Rudd as well, who I always find entertaining and charismatic and amusing.

40:26 Lee

40:28 Lee yeah, so I don't want to go too much into that because it's new and spoilers and whatnot.

40:33 Lee But yeah, it's if you're a fan of the original, I don't think you'd be upset.

40:38 Lee But I I would definitely go back to this before I'd go back to the reimagining that came out a couple of years ago.

40:42 Adam Right.

40:43 Lee which I was desperate to enjoy. I was like, it's a fantastic idea, it's a kind of, you know, like the idea of a parallel universe almost where it's a group of women who find themselves in the same position.

40:51 Lee And are trying to have ghosts taken seriously and save New York and everything, and amazing cast, I was like, this can't possibly go wrong.

40:59 Lee but it was just.

41:01 Lee Too Disney for me and it just fell down on that unfortunately.

41:05 Lee But this one, yeah.

41:06 Lee

41:06 Lee Is definitely well worth your time.

41:10 Adam The one.

41:10 Adam The one question.

41:10 Adam I have though is I have I have seen a lot of things where people are saying it's not.

41:16 Adam it's not a comedy per se.

41:19 Adam It's a bit, you know, it's not quite as sort of caper setup sort of thing as as Ghostbusters.

41:24 Adam Exactly.

41:25 Lee Yeah.

41:25 Adam Yeah.

41:26 Chris Just missing.

41:27 Chris Bill Murray.

41:29 Lee What.

41:30 Lee You never know, Bill Murray may be in it.

41:32 Chris Oh, okay.

41:32 Lee You never know.

41:33 Lee He's still around, so it is it is possible that he could pop up.

41:36 Lee but yeah, no, I totally get what you mean. It was more it felt more like the kind of more like the sort of MCU stuff where it's.

41:45 Lee It is action primarily, it's definitely got some good laugh out loud moments in it and yeah, but yeah, it it's not an all out comedy.

41:54 Lee It is more of an action movie with comedic elements, yeah, it was a good balance.

42:02 Lee It was a good balance, so I was quite quite surprised with that.

42:08 Lee And finally, after way too many years.

42:10 Lee Oh God, 2006, I am behind the curve on this one.

42:15 Lee I've finally started Masters of Horror.

42:22 Lee it came out at a time when.

42:26 Lee What was I? Oh, do you know what it was? I was really into gaming at the time and coming away from my computer, which was Chris's fault, to be fair, so coming away from my computer for even an evening a week to watch this was torture.

42:35 Lee So I I didn't get around to it. But it's great now that I've got this massive back catalog to go through.

42:43 Lee So I've finally started and as you would expect, it's a very mixed bag.

42:49 Adam Oh, yeah, yeah, they are.

42:52 Lee so we started off the very first episode, which is incident on and off the mountain road.

42:58 Adam Yeah, the Don Coscarelli one.

43:01 Lee Don Coscarelli one.

43:02 Lee Which, yeah, I mean, I quite enjoyed.

43:05 Lee It was a good opener.

43:07 Lee A five out of ten, I'd say.

43:10 Adam Yeah, it's it's okay, it's because this is the thing, because because obviously like the setup of it was it's.

43:16 Adam all classic horror movie directors and I just don't think that it's I don't think it's just it's not up to those sort of it's you know, it's good, but it's not.

43:25 Adam Yeah, it doesn't have that sort of same it well it doesn't it's not as fucking mental as Phantasm or as just brilliantly funny and creative as Bubba Ho-Tep.

43:31 Adam So it's yeah.

43:32 Adam Because I think it's adapted from a story by the guy who wrote Bubba Ho-Tep, so, yeah, I think they're still sort of like that connection there, but yeah, I just it's it's like you say, it's okay, it's not.

43:49 Adam It's not bad in any way, it's just not a shout from the rooftops job.

43:54 Lee Yeah, absolutely.

43:57 Lee unlike the next episode which followed that.

44:01 Lee which was Stuart Gordon's, Dreams in the Witch House.

44:05 Adam Oh, yeah, that's.

44:07 Lee Which was amazingly good.

44:09 Adam Oh, yeah.

44:10 Adam That's.

44:10 Adam That's one of his best Lovecraft adaptations.

44:14 Adam I think.

44:15 Adam And probably because he hasn't had to do a movie.

44:19 Lee Yeah.

44:20 Adam Because because they're all they're all roughly an hour on.

44:21 Adam I think.

44:22 Lee Yeah, so it's a nice length.

44:24 Adam So presumably with adverts it would have felt like a movie because it'd been like an hour and a half when it was on telly.

44:30 Adam But,

44:31 Adam but yeah, no, that's that's probably.

44:34 Adam I think.

44:34 Adam I think one of his best Lovecraft adaptations, especially because it's still modern as he always does the Lovecraft adaptations pretty much modern, doesn't he?

44:46 Lee It does.

44:46 Lee And the main actor in it is the guy who was in Dagon as well.

44:51 Adam Yes, of course.

44:51 Lee

44:52 Lee Yeah.

44:52 Lee So I was impressed with that.

44:54 Lee And actually, funnily enough, I I don't normally listen back to our to our own back episodes.

44:59 Lee But recently I saw,

45:03 Lee nuts, Curse of the Crimson Altar on the shelf, and I thought, oh, we must cover that, and I was like, I'm sure we did cover that. So I went back and listened to the episode, and because it's very loosely based on Dreams in the Witch House.

45:12 Lee you did mention this, actually.

45:14 Lee I think you'd not long seen it.

45:15 Lee And you did say about you need to watch it, even if it's just for the rat with a human face, which was absolutely horrific.

45:20 Lee So.

45:21 Adam And it's and it's that weird fucking thing that Master of Horror, I don't know again, I don't know whether it's that time restriction means that it's like if you give them the budget.

45:29 Adam It's getting used better or they've just got better people in or whatever like that.

45:32 Adam But that's actually genuinely good effect, it's not the dog in a mask at the end of invasion of the body snatchers.

45:39 Lee Exactly.

45:40 Adam It looks really fucking good.

45:41 Lee Yeah.

45:42 Lee Oh.

45:43 Lee That's fantastic.

45:45 Lee which was good because I probably wouldn't have gone back.

45:47 Lee If the second episode was episode three, which was Tobe Hooper's, yeah.

45:55 Lee Yeah, so the dead.

45:58 Lee What a shit show.

45:59 Lee That one.

46:00 Lee And the thing was.

46:01 Lee Every time I a name came up, you know, like the music and everything, I was like, oh my God, this is going to be amazing, Robert England's in it.

46:07 Lee How can this possibly go wrong?

46:09 Lee Well, it did, it was an absolute, it was horrible, even sitting through it for an hour, I felt like torture.

46:15 Adam It's Tush.

46:16 Adam It's.

46:16 Adam It really is.

46:17 Adam It's absolute Tle.

46:18 Adam It especially because like you say.

46:21 Adam I was watching them when I was watching them where I think it's the first or second series.

46:26 Adam But there's one, there's one he does where it's zombie like soldiers coming back from Afghanistan.

46:32 Adam Oh, yeah.

46:33 Adam And there's.

46:33 Adam And then there's.

46:34 Adam And then there's another one he does which I'm sure I think that's the second series one, which is really creepy where it's basically.

46:42 Adam all the women have been wiped out and it's just but it's set sort of like five years after this has happened.

46:48 Adam And it's like this family trying to protect like trying to protect themselves and it's this basically it's a world without kindness.

46:56 Lee So.

46:57 Lee Yeah.

46:57 Adam Because we're not going to fucking buy each other cards, come on.

47:02 Lee No.

47:03 Adam So.

47:05 Adam But, so but I can't but yeah.

47:07 Adam You've got you've got two John Carpenters.

47:11 Adam There's dear woman.

47:14 Lee I was going to say, dear woman is the only one I'd seen, I think.

47:17 Lee Because when it when it aired, you brought it around and said, you need to watch this.

47:20 Lee It's John Landis, it's ridiculous.

47:22 Lee It's absolutely brilliant.

47:23 Lee yeah, and I've got very fond memories of sitting around drinking and watching that.

47:27 Lee So I'm looking forward to that.

47:28 Lee Coming up.

47:29 Adam Yeah.

47:29 Adam Dear Woman's fucking fantastic. Also when you're watching Dear Woman, the main actor in it is Brian Benben.

47:36 Adam Which is.

47:37 Adam An amazing name as it is, you will try and work out who he sounds like.

47:42 Adam He sounds like Tom Hanks.

47:43 Lee All right, excellent.

47:45 Lee Thank you.

47:46 Lee That draws me mad.

47:46 Adam Because because me and Claire watched it and we were both like, he really sounds like someone we couldn't.

47:52 Adam And then eventually, I googled it and the first third or fourth thing that came up was, why does Brian Benben sound like Tom Hanks?

47:56 Adam And of course.

47:57 Lee Yeah.

47:58 Lee Yeah.

47:59 Adam but yeah.

48:01 Adam So there's there's there's some really good stuff in there.

48:02 Adam And actually when they showed it over here.

48:04 Adam We got an episode they didn't show in America because there's a Takeshi Mitzu Takeshi episode.

48:12 Adam And basically the act like.

48:13 Adam No, I'll be honest.

48:15 Adam I can honestly say it's got it's got one of the harshest things I've ever seen on television.

48:19 Adam And I'm like, wow, yeah.

48:21 Adam I can I can see why they didn't, but I was also I was so pleased.

48:24 Adam That I had it.

48:25 Adam I had it on video.

48:26 Adam I took it around to Deans.

48:28 Adam Because I was like, there's the Miki one, the one they've banned.

48:31 Adam We have literally got the only copy in the universe.

48:35 Adam

48:36 Adam But.

48:37 Adam Yeah.

48:37 Adam Then they came out with DVD.

48:38 Lee Oh.

48:38 Lee You go, shit.

48:39 Lee Yeah.

48:40 Adam Then they came out on DVD.

48:40 Adam And I'll go shit.

48:41 Lee Yeah.

48:42 Adam But yeah, so I shall be looking I shall be watching that again and reporting back.

48:46 Lee

48:47 Lee So, thanks ever so much for listening, everybody.

48:49 Lee thanks very much for bearing with us.

48:52 Lee I say we were hoping to get this episode out earlier than we did, that's my fault, we were supposed to record on Saturday so that we could post it on the Sunday between our other two Sherlock Holmes episodes, and I had a terrible migraine and lost an entire day to lying on the sofa feeling like I had a head full of concrete.

49:07 Lee So, that wasn't much fun.

49:09 Adam It's all them poppers you've been doing.

49:12 Lee Yeah.

49:12 Lee Yeah.

49:13 Adam Solid gold blow your tits off.

49:15 Lee Yeah.

49:16 Chris Yeah, decompression after, you know, Christmas stress.

49:19 Lee Yeah.

49:20 Lee I don't know.

49:21 Adam It's got Christmas pence.

49:22 Lee Yeah.

49:23 Lee Yeah.

49:23 Adam Yeah.

49:25 Adam Yeah.

49:26 Chris Yeah.

49:27 Adam Unbelievable.

49:28 Lee Yeah.

49:29 Lee Yeah.

49:30 Lee but yeah, so as we mentioned.

49:32 Lee Chris and I went to Horror on Sea, we are going to try and get Dave and Jennifer who are also there together.

49:36 Lee and just do a little short, you know, 45 minutes or whatever, just to run down what we saw in that day, which was fantastic.

49:41 Lee and as well as being an amazing day, I also came away, as I sent a photograph to Adam, with the Arrow release, the Yokai Monsters box set.

49:49 Adam Yeah.

49:49 Lee That I've been looking at and kept thinking, I really, I really do need that.

49:53 Lee and then I got it there sort of half price, so, I can't wait to watch that.

49:58 Adam Nice.

49:59 Lee I'll I'll make Jennifer watch it.

50:00 Lee And see what she makes of it, because it's pretty random.

50:03 Lee So.

50:04 Adam Oh, yeah.

50:05 Adam I mean, this is.

50:06 Adam This is the thing.

50:07 Adam It's, you know, you're sitting there going.

50:11 Adam So he's an umbrella with one leg, and a licky tongue.

50:15 Adam And one eye.

50:16 Adam Okay.

50:16 Adam Suddenly hopping vampires don't seem so weird.

50:20 Adam Well, yeah.

50:21 Lee Yeah.

50:21 Adam Yeah.

50:22 Lee Yeah.

50:23 Adam But yeah.

50:24 Lee So.

50:25 Lee I should be.

50:25 Lee Looking.

50:26 Lee I should be watching that again.

50:27 Lee And reporting back.

50:28 Lee so, thanks ever so much for listening, everybody, apologize again for the fact we were off for a month over Christmas and New Year.

50:36 Lee But we have trouble getting together once a fortnight as it is, so that was pretty much a right off that period, so it's good that we've we've got an extra episode out for you now.

50:48 Lee and we shall return I will try and get this episode up possibly Saturday, so we will return tomorrow, hopefully, with the next three episodes.

50:56 Lee Well the next episode covering the next three of the Hound of the Baskervilles.

50:59 Adam Yeah.

51:00 Adam Yeah.

51:00 Chris Yeah.

51:01 Lee I've got to say, I know how one of the podcast, Adam and I listen to.

51:03 Lee Last podcast on the left, sometimes they cover stuff and go, oh my God, I can't wait to have this out of my head.

51:07 Lee I'm getting to that point now. I've now watched four versions, I've read the entire novel.

51:13 Lee And I'm trying desperately to get through the War Look Holmes version of the Hound of the Baskervilles as well.

51:19 Lee So four films and two novels of the same thing in a two-week period is making my eyes bleed.

51:25 Lee But,

51:26 Lee but yeah, always entertaining and very different.

51:30 Lee It's great to get a perspective on how you can take a take a text and make it so completely different in three in so many different ways.

51:34 Lee So.

51:35 Lee Excellent.

51:36 Lee So, right, thanks ever so much for listening, everybody, go and check out Not For Everyone podcast.

51:42 Lee And, oh, go and listen to Eerie Essex.

51:43 Lee That's also a fantastic podcast we've been listening to.

51:45 Lee Big fans of that.

51:47 Lee And we will return.

51:49 Lee I will try and get this episode up.

51:50 Lee Possibly Saturday.

51:52 Lee So we will return tomorrow, hopefully, with the next three episodes, well, the next episode covering the next three of the Hound of the Baskervilles.

51:56 Lee Good night.