Horror on Sea 2023

0:23 Lee Good evening and welcome to Horror. I'm Lee.

0:25 Chris I'm Chris.

0:27 Adam I'm Adam.

0:29 Jennifer And I'm Lee Jennifer, I believe.

0:31 Lee You are.

0:32 Jennifer It's been a while since I've been on.

0:33 Lee Yeah, it's people have commented.

0:35 Lee and we're here as always for our yearly round-up of our fantastic day and a bit spent at Horror on Sea this year.

0:44 Chris Yeah.

0:45 Lee 10-year anniversary, congratulations to Horror on Sea.

0:48 Chris Excellent, well done.

0:49 Adam They were on BBC East on the local news.

0:54 Lee Yeah, I saw I didn't see the I saw them saying they were going to be there, so I'm definitely going to go and find that and watch it because yeah.

1:40 Adam What was they described them as the the they're sort of becoming the cans of horror.

1:48 Chris Nice.

1:49 Adam And I think it's like, you know, because by by the seaside, although I can't imagine that, you know, being able to grate cheese on your scrotum because it's January.

1:56 Adam It's not as attractive a seaside venue at that point, but yeah.

2:00 Lee Yeah, true.

2:01 Chris But it is we we said it's funny how we forget the weather.

2:05 Chris You you think back to it and you just remember the great films and and.

2:08 Lee And then every year we get out the car, what has happened?

2:13 Chris And then you get nearly blown, you know, halfway across the beach.

2:18 Lee just to let everyone know, there will be spoil there will be swearing, there will be mild spoilers, but as most of these films were only premiered or only just been released and aren't out for wide distribution yet.

2:32 Lee We're going to try and keep it pretty spoiler-free because yeah, a lot of them are worth seeing and we wouldn't want to but I think with a lot of these, as a lot of them were comedy horror, again, it's about the journey rather than the story a lot of the time, so.

3:26 Adam Yeah, very.

3:27 Lee Don't panic if we tell you the story, if we say go and see it, go and see it because yeah, it's still going to keep you entertained and amused.

3:38 Lee so kicking off on Saturday the 14th at 10:00 AM.

3:43 Lee we started the day with The Haunting of Lady Jane.

3:47 Lee Does anyone like to pick up the baton on this one?

3:51 Chris I won't be visiting canals in any time soon.

3:55 Jennifer Yeah, I'm glad I had my canal holiday last year because it was a little bit eerie.

4:00 Jennifer So I won't be going back.

4:03 Chris No wait, so so are we going to mention the shorts afterwards or are we leaving those?

4:08 Jennifer I've made some notes on the shorts that I particularly liked rather than all of them per se, so I guess.

4:14 Chris Yeah.

4:15 Adam So the shorts before this were Gone and Behind You.

4:19 Jennifer Yes.

5:00 Chris Yeah.

5:01 Chris So so it's kind of funny that Gone, and did we we debated this briefly, but and so talking about it without a spoiler, it appeared like there was something dark happened in this which kind of really set, you know, set the scene for what was to come after.

5:18 Chris yeah, I thought both the shorts were were pretty good, they they got to the point quickly.

5:24 Jennifer Think for a three-minute short, you kind of got to get straight in and yeah.

5:28 Lee Yeah.

5:29 Adam Gone was very much a mood piece.

5:32 Lee Yeah.

5:33 Chris Like a fever dream of from lockdown.

5:37 Chris Yeah, I wonder how much of it was based on his experiences that he was going through or or hers.

5:44 Adam Well, well, hopefully not.

5:46 Chris Yeah, not not not literally, hopefully.

5:48 Jennifer Or he wasn't singing about it at the start, so he's not arrested at least, he's not in prison.

5:54 Adam I mean, it'd be a bold fucking move, wouldn't it?

5:57 Adam Not only have I done this, I have made a film on it and presented it at a horror festival.

6:46 Chris yeah, so they were both good fun.

6:48 Lee and then The Haunting of Lady Jane.

6:50 Lee Now you like this one as well, didn't you, Jen?

6:52 Jennifer Oh, I I think I came out of it absolutely like, oh, you know, first one on the day, I thought it started on on a high, I mean, I think later on actually they got better, but you know, for the first film.

7:04 Adam Oh, definitely, yeah.

7:06 Jennifer Yeah, I thought, I mean, I I quite liked the kind of slow burn, which I think Lee when we came out, you're a bit like, oh, that took forever to get going.

7:13 Lee I I like the thing is, there was a lot of stuff about it I did like, but yeah, I just felt that it could have been like 45 minutes to an hour long.

7:24 Chris And you would still get all of the positives.

7:27 Lee Yeah, and it would have been punchier.

7:28 Lee So yeah, I didn't dislike it, but yeah, it's to be fair, it was 10 o'clock on a Saturday morning as well, so I was still kind of waking up.

7:38 Chris I there were a few like it was dramatic and dark, you know, definitely darker points, but there were a few lighthearted moments throughout which which kept it, you know.

8:30 Adam To give listeners an idea, basically it's a a writer, journalist hooks up with this Instagram or TikTok influ like online influencer.

8:47 Chris She's becoming sort of a, you know, more prominent influencer, yeah, but still kind of at the early stages it it seemed.

8:55 Adam And at a loss for anything to do, they see a a notice in Camden about someone who's taking a canal boat to Birmingham and there's two free spaces on the boat.

9:07 Adam so they go to the boat, which is the Lady Jane, and meet the captain of the boat or owner of the boat.

9:16 Adam And yeah, from there it's sort of just a kind of like a a bit like a sort of Heart of Darkness journey up river as you go into the minds of people, but also the thing I quite liked about it is it was basically folk horror for the waterways.

10:15 Adam So rather than being the lore of a particular region or whatever like that, it was all the superstitions and stories and ghost stories associated with like British waterways and stuff like that.

10:30 Adam And yeah, from that from that perspective, I really enjoyed it.

10:35 Adam and yeah, I I liked the slow burn, I think it need it it it sort of required it, but probably could have been a touch shorter, I think it was I mean, it was an hour and 40, so I mean, it wasn't it wasn't a a big, you know, it wasn't a real dragger.

10:50 Adam But yeah, possibly could have been just slightly slightly truncated.

10:54 Lee Yeah.

10:55 Lee I I thought the end was fantastic though, like it it went like when it finally kicked off at the end, it really kicked off and I I did like that.

11:44 Lee so yeah, I was definitely pleased I saw it, but yeah, I just felt it would have yeah, possibly done better from some more heavy editing.

11:53 Lee But yeah, I I did enjoy it.

11:55 Jennifer Yeah, but then they'd have had to get the runtime up, lots of slow motion, as we know currently at the moment, just to get a lot of slow-mo in there.

12:04 Adam In fact, any any sequence without dialogue was proposed to have slow motion.

12:11 Lee Exactly.

12:12 Lee so after that, we we then had some lovely lunch and then we returned at 3:00 for End of Term.

12:19 Chris

12:21 Adam Which which was preceded by the short film Malevolent, and I, for the life of me, cannot remember what Malevolent was.

12:30 Jennifer Yeah, I didn't write that one down, so I'm guessing when we've just looked at them, that didn't jump out particularly.

12:35 Chris Well, there's a woman who'd finished a day of work, she seemed a bit not necessarily the best place, and a husband sort of follows her a bit through the.

13:25 Lee Oh, yes!

13:26 Jennifer Scary underpass, isn't it?

13:28 Lee Scary blanket.

13:29 Jennifer Yes, you're right.

13:31 Adam Yeah, had a sort of yeah, just a nice sort of spooky touch, but.

13:37 Chris Clearly I think it may need a better a different title.

13:42 Adam Because I clearly don't remember you've had to remind me, I couldn't remember just looking at Malevolent, I was like, I don't know what that was.

13:49 Lee But then you said, oh, yeah, no, it's that one.

13:52 Jennifer Much better title, I'll just recommend that.

13:55 Chris Yeah, one of those where you're not entirely sure how supernatural it is or exactly what's happening. seemed like some twists at the very end you see something, but.

14:08 Chris It's still perhaps, yeah, left up to the viewer to decide exactly what they think.

14:13 Adam Well, it was it was interesting actually, Lee, you did and obviously do go and listen to it, but Lee recently interviewed Tommy Wash for for the podcast of Scotchworthy and bloody disgusting.

15:05 Adam And it's bloody disgusting, isn't it?

15:08 Lee Yeah.

15:09 Lee It is bloody disgusting.

15:10 Chris Sorry, I was just like.

15:11 Lee Not not the interview, the interview was was bloody excellent.

15:14 Chris I just assume.

15:16 Adam I didn't mean the interview, the interview was very very nice.

15:18 Adam but yeah, and and one of the things he was talking about was when he looks at short films, it was about production design, set design and things like that.

15:29 Adam And now I think back to it, Malevolent, the one thing was is it was like, this doesn't feel like this is this woman's house.

15:37 Chris

15:38 Adam Because it was like, there's a spooky blanket.

15:41 Adam Yeah.

15:41 Adam But it's a PlayStation.

15:42 Chris That so that did throw me, like design blanket.

15:46 Chris I didn't quite get that, I mean, she had a daughter, but it still.

15:49 Adam Oh, she did have a daughter, right, okay.

15:51 Chris Yeah, yeah, so her daughter turned up sort of at the end, creepily, but.

15:55 Jennifer Oh, yes.

15:55 Chris Yeah, no, I I guess there were a few bits that it's it's hard to be sure if you've if it's deliberate or just a slightly odd choice or.

16:44 Adam It was just what was available.

16:45 Chris Yeah, well that it did look like that.

16:48 Chris Yeah.

16:50 Lee yes, so then the main feature after that was End of Term.

16:55 Lee I was I I I think I watched the trailer for this, but I didn't realize the people who were going to be in it.

17:02 Lee So Peter Davison was in it, David Bamber was in it, Julie Graham was in it.

17:08 Lee It was like everybody you came on set, I was like, I know them, I know them, I know.

17:12 Adam A lot of picked up it was, yeah, there was quite a few big names involved, definitely.

17:16 Adam Or like proper.

17:19 Adam You know, proper acting actors who you've seen in on Telly.

17:24 Chris Definitely, yeah, they I mean, there was decent acting throughout, yeah.

17:30 Lee yeah, I quite enjoyed this, again, it was a bit of a slow burn, you didn't you couldn't quite get a handle on where it was going.

17:36 Jennifer No.

17:38 Lee yeah, good twist at the end.

17:39 Lee Yeah, I enjoyed it, it it went quite it moved quite quickly as well considering.

18:24 Adam Yeah, I do I do remember finding it confusing in places, and I don't know whether that was me or.

18:30 Chris There was quite a lot happening, and I think we were we were sort of saying potentially some of the actors looking a bit similar and necessarily you haven't necessarily spent enough time with each of them to really get used to them before it starts to kick off, but.

18:45 Chris I I for me, that didn't detract from it, I sort of felt like I was following enough to appreciate sort of the arc and the end.

18:55 Chris So it's yeah, I guess it could have been done slightly differently, but yeah, overall.

19:00 Chris I still found it really quite clever finish, yeah, it's.

19:05 Jennifer It made you want to know what was going on, didn't it?

19:08 Jennifer Because of course, the way they're interviewing the girl and you just you know something was a really good way, yeah exactly, and that draws you in, I think, because you're kind of waiting for it.

19:16 Jennifer And maybe because it had lots going on, you weren't exactly sure where it was going to finish up, but as you say, equally, there was a lot going on and you're like, who, what, when?

20:06 Chris That's got to be really difficult though where you don't you want there to be a twist and so you are trying to throw people off the scent, so it's like how much do you do that you want to confuse people but not so much that they really feel like you've just done it badly, yeah, that is such a hot hard balance to get, I think.

20:24 Adam Because I think there was there were certain points where people were saying, you know, there was a whole group of people together and they were missing, you know, people were missing or they're trying to like, but they weren't necessarily mentioning everyone who was missing.

20:38 Lee Yeah.

20:39 Adam And it was almost like, you know, from from a from our point of view, we knew that characters had been killed by that point.

20:46 Chris But they're still piecing things together.

20:48 Adam Exactly, yeah, so it was sort of there's just little touches like that.

20:52 Adam And like you say, I think it's the difficulty is trying to lay a breadcrumb trail.

20:58 Chris

20:59 Adam That works, but also throws you off, you know, it's the sort of what Agatha Christie excelled at of, you know, you you you build this you build this thing, but you've also got to have the points in there where, oh, so it's this that's going on or or maybe that isn't what I thought.

21:47 Lee Yeah.

21:47 Adam And.

21:58 Lee Yeah, and he did that, but as you say, it was quite a large cast, so it was a lot of people to remember, yeah, and some of them did look very similar.

22:06 Lee So you were like, is that actually her or is that the other girl who looks a bit like her and yeah, but yeah.

22:12 Lee Not much you can do, I'm sure it's

22:15 Chris Overall I I did really enjoy it.

22:17 Jennifer Yeah, absolutely.

22:20 Lee then so the next movie before we get onto the next movie, what were the oh, we haven't written the shorts for this.

22:28 Adam The shorts.

22:28 Adam The shorts were Room 4 and Karen's Room.

22:31 Lee Yes.

22:34 Chris They well, Room 4 was very funny.

22:38 Jennifer

22:39 Adam I loved I loved both of them.

23:21 Chris Yeah, both excellent.

23:22 Jennifer Oh, for the

23:24 Lee Yeah, for the sound.

23:27 Adam Yeah.

23:28 Adam as as the director of both, because it was the same director across both.

23:33 Adam and as he said, Room 4 is basically based on a dirty joke he was told as a child.

23:39 Adam And Karen's Room, a woman wakes up to find a mysterious man sitting at the end of her bed.

23:47 Adam At first she thinks he's robbing the place and then it goes even weirder than that.

23:52 Adam And I just like, I liked how that played out.

23:54 Adam I think that was just a nice little sequence and yeah.

24:00 Lee Yeah, they were good.

24:01 Adam And again.

24:02 Adam And again, Room 4 was the same sort of thing, it had a nice you enjoyed the cast and you enjoyed the journey to the the payoff.

24:11 Chris The, yeah.

24:15 Adam Nicely done.

24:16 Chris It was.

24:17 Jennifer Yeah.

24:18 Chris Yeah, it seemed like they they really got the timing just so perfect for those, they told enough story, it didn't drag on at all, it was like, yeah, perfect.

25:07 Chris So really well done.

25:10 Lee and then the main feature for the third one was eating Miss Campbell.

25:14 Chris

25:15 Lee so this was a this was a true trauma film through and through, but British.

25:21 Chris Have we seen another Troma?

25:23 Adam We haven't.

25:23 Lee Oh.

25:24 Adam We really need we need to correct this.

25:26 Lee Oh yeah, oh yeah, we have there.

25:28 Adam Because Lloyd Kaufman is likes the sort of missing link between Roger Corman and John Waters.

25:36 Chris

25:36 Adam Of like this a a like powerhouse of low-budget independent filmmaking, but with a deliberate trash element rather than just, you know, a budgetary trash element as it were.

25:53 Lee And to be fair, we have put Class of Nuke 'Em High on our list of stuff about three times and then it's fallen off the bottom of the list.

25:59 Jennifer I was just going to ask what some classic trauma films for people out there that might not know.

26:43 Lee Toxic Avenger, Sergeant Kabuki Man.

26:47 Chris I think I've mentioned Toxic Avenger before.

26:50 Adam You've seen Toxic Avenger?

26:51 Chris No, but I'm I'm sure I remember Lee talking about it.

26:54 Lee I know Toxic Avenger.

26:55 Adam I mean, that that again, I mean, pretty much any Troma film kind of works on this show.

27:02 Adam Frankly.

27:03 Adam They're always in that sort of they're always in that area of intersection to horror, even if it's not quite.

27:10 Adam I mean, Toxic Avenger's basically a superhero movie, but yeah, just a very fucking trash one.

27:18 Lee Yeah.

27:19 Adam as is Sergeant Kabuki Man.

27:21 Adam And Tromio and Juliet.

27:24 Lee Yes.

27:25 Adam That was the one, wasn't it?

27:26 Adam And

27:27 Adam But yeah, they've.

27:28 Adam But Lloyd Kaufman actually obviously had to make an appearance in the film.

27:32 Adam and in this, again, slight spoiler, but it's literally his only moment, is he appears with a gun shoved up his nostril and shouts Alec Baldwin at the screen, which is kind of the pitch level of taste for this film.

28:24 Lee Yeah.

28:24 Adam You know, it's.

28:31 Chris So I'd I'd love to hear him talk about the film or or perhaps some of the actors even explaining more of it.

28:36 Chris Because it's it was so hard for me to know if I felt like they'd crossed any lines because they were clearly trying to be edgy about some stuff.

28:47 Chris And and like the presentation was fantastic, like the style so good.

28:52 Lee but yeah, it's just a beautiful looking film as well.

28:55 Lee Like it really was absolutely pristine.

28:58 Chris and the acting I really liked.

28:59 Chris Yeah, really good.

29:01 Chris So so much about it was great, it's just it was hard to know exactly what their target or their aim.

29:06 Chris Because there was clearly some, I mean, she was a human cannibal vegan.

29:14 Lee Yeah.

29:15 Chris So I mean, already it's like, well, what what is their aim there, it's just fascinating to know.

30:00 Jennifer Like, eating cannibals or vegans, I mean?

30:02 Chris No, but there's it's not just silliness, is it? There there must they've got some thought to what they're trying to get across.

30:07 Adam Absolutely.

30:07 Chris But.

30:08 Adam There's distinctly a point.

30:09 Adam I mean, it's like you've got in this, the head of the it's like because it's although it's it was a British production and obviously filmed over here, but it had a lot of American actors in it and and followed much more the tropes of a high US high school movie than like a college film here or something like that.

30:33 Adam But the fact that like the main like the big jock heartthrob that all the girls love is basically called the Chief rapist and worships the Weinstein brothers.

30:45 Lee Yeah.

30:46 Adam Sort of gives you it's like, yeah, we're going to rub your nose in it, but this is the fucking point.

30:51 Lee Yeah.

30:51 Adam That these horrible pricks do exist and they just get away with shit.

30:57 Adam you know, when when he when he is murdered and then all the women are mourning the fact that they won't be touched up or date raped again, you know, it's Yeah, it's

31:50 Chris Yeah, it's it's it's very distasteful, but the target is aimed at the horrible people in the world.

31:56 Lee Yes.

31:58 Jennifer It's distasteful, shouldn't we, really.

32:00 Chris Well, yeah.

32:01 Adam But strangely enough, and I because the the director Liam Reagan, I was looking up on just looking up online sort of other stuff, I get the impression that this is a semi-sequel to another film he's done because you've got it's some of the same characters follow over, like the headmaster, you know, the ridiculous fucking guy with the beard who's probably my favorite character.

32:26 Chris He was he was really good.

32:28 Adam Because he was it was that pure sort of it was that rich culture Henry Zabrawski sort of energy of like this fucking shaman loon.

33:22 Adam but yeah, so he's done a film before and it also had, you know, the the wrestler who turned up at the end to judge the all you can eat school massacre probably.

33:31 Chris Wow.

33:33 Adam I mean, there's there's another point as well is that they were having a competition for who gets to have a gun so they can have a high school massacre.

33:41 Adam You know, and again, yes, that would be to most, but you understood where they were coming from with the film.

33:49 Lee Yeah.

33:50 Adam It was but yeah, this this other film and I can't think what it's called, but if someone IMD B's it, but yeah, it's yeah, it looks like there is a kind of a prequel to it or kind of original film that some of these characters have transferred across from.

34:07 Adam I don't think it it wasn't like the main character, I don't think like Miss Campbell was in that or.

34:13 Chris So he's produced Eating Miss Campbell, Kevin Walters, Troma behind the making of Banjo, My Bloody Banjo, Dan got to The Way of the Union.

35:01 Lee My Bloody Banjo.

35:02 Adam Okay.

35:02 Lee My Bloody Banjo, that's the one.

35:04 Lee And it's got like the rest the guy who turns up at the end, the wrestler, he's in that, and yeah, the headmaster guy and some of the sort of head of the schools and stuff like that.

35:14 Lee So.

35:16 Lee I think I'm going to have to look this up.

35:19 Jennifer I mean five films it's not bad, is it for a, you know?

35:23 Lee I think I'm going to have to track it down.

35:25 Jennifer Yeah.

35:26 Lee Yeah, and I really like the cast as well, I thought it had a really strong a really strong cast.

35:30 Lee So yeah, it it yeah, this is this one was definitely a recommend for me, I really enjoyed it.

35:36 Adam Everyone was bang on, everyone knew where where it was pitched.

35:40 Adam You know, it's fucking up to 11.

35:43 Lee Oh.

35:44 Adam But you know, but you don't get no one was no one was letting the side down or doing a wrong note for it, I think everyone was it was the right energy, the right level, they knew what they were doing.

35:56 Lee Yeah.

35:57 Adam So.

35:57 Lee Yeah, absolutely, it was and I was really excited, so oh, I forgot to tell you because you guys weren't there the following weekend, so the couple, so basically, Beth's mum and dad, the two who just kept launching at each other constantly for now pound raise, they were also in the film that Jennifer and I went back for on the Sunday and they were standing outside the door handing people flyers as we were going in.

36:42 Lee And I was like, I'm sure that was the two from eating his camp.

36:46 Lee But yeah.

36:47 Lee So that was nice to see them.

36:49 Adam And obviously Daniel Thompson was there who was in Eating Miss Campbell as well.

36:53 Adam So yeah, I think she was there for like the whole like six days.

36:59 Lee Yeah, and she was in the one the following day as well, so yeah.

37:03 Lee That was good.

37:05 Lee So that was fantastic.

37:07 Lee And then the last film of the day, which I won't be able to speak about because unfortunately, I didn't make it into this film.

37:14 Chris And that this is a treat that you've still got to come.

37:17 Lee I am.

37:18 Lee I was so gutted that I missed it that I came home on Sunday night and watched The Snarling again.

37:24 Chris Oh, that's that's a good call.

37:26 Adam I watched The Snarling the next day, to be honest.

37:30 Lee I also bought a coffee for Dave because he loved this film and hadn't seen it.

37:34 Lee So I was like, I've got to send him home a copy of that, otherwise he might not get around to it.

37:39 Lee So yes, The Last Twitch.

37:41 Jennifer Yes.

37:42 Jennifer It was indeed.

37:44 Jennifer It was, yeah.

37:45 Adam So as as you say, Pablo Raible's follow-up to his werewolf movie The Snarling.

37:52 Adam That we I think we saw that the first time we went to Horror on Sea, didn't we?

37:55 Jennifer I think it was probably years ago now, wasn't it?

37:58 Adam I think it was 2018.

38:01 Jennifer No, it could have been, yeah.

38:02 Lee God, yeah.

38:04 Adam yeah, that was

38:08 Adam Yeah, so it's the follow-up to that, and you've got basically the trio of guys from the pub come back.

38:14 Adam and magnificently, the detective inspector and Haskins come back because they are, one big name star, you did have Mark Williams in this.

38:24 Chris Yeah.

38:24 Adam For upwards of 30 seconds.

38:31 Lee Yeah.

38:32 Adam I quite like the idea that if they keep doing sort of follow-ons to The Snarling, is that they could be a bit like police squad and have like, this week, this film's special guest victim, you know, just get just get the biggest name in and kill them off, so, you know.

38:50 Chris But it is, I mean, they essentially have got a formula that really works well with this.

38:56 Chris Yeah.

38:57 Adam They basically just keep doing silly jokes until you crack.

39:01 Chris It keeps getting almost gets better and better throughout the whole film.

39:05 Chris You just, yeah, really so good.

39:08 Adam I actually have to say, having rewatched The Snarling, I think The Last Twitch actually is probably funnier.

39:16 Chris Oh, that's interesting.

39:17 Jennifer Really?

39:17 Adam Actually, yeah.

39:18 Adam I think I think they've maybe it's just because I'm obviously I'm familiar with the characters.

39:23 Lee Yeah.

39:24 Adam You know, when I saw The Last Twitch, so.

39:27 Adam You've already got that established idea of who everyone is.

39:32 Chris That's why for the first for the first, you know, 10, 20 minutes I was like, oh, is it just going to be a bit too much, just too similar.

39:40 Chris And yeah, it's like, no, you're still getting this right, like you are building on it and it's working and it's still so funny.

39:46 Chris Even though you kind of know what to expect.

39:51 Chris Even to yeah, till the end of the film, it really was those characters just worked so well together.

39:57 Adam Well, I think I think because they said that they're they said that it was basically they finished editing it like a couple of days before.

40:07 Lee Wow.

40:07 Jennifer Oh, wow.

40:08 Adam And I think, I don't know, because it was two hours, now The Snarling was an hour and a half, and I wonder if there's going to be some further editing, I think they've put together like their final sort of with everything in there.

40:22 Adam Cut and maybe they'll sort of trim that down, I don't know, because that was.

40:31 Jennifer Oh, well, they cut it out, I don't know.

40:33 Adam I don't know, I think there's a few bits and pieces where they could maybe shorten things or just, you know, there are a few scenes that were maybe a bit long, but I think it's it's that thing as well that because obviously there's a improvisation element to it.

40:45 Adam I'm assuming as well.

40:50 Adam I wonder if it's that thing where you're like, right, every every line is fucking funny.

40:56 Jennifer

40:57 Adam So we don't want to lose anything.

40:59 Adam But I was reading sort of interviews back with the director from The Snarling, and he was talking about stuff that did get cut out of The Snarling that was sort of like gags or whatever like that.

41:07 Adam So maybe.

41:10 Adam Maybe they'll shorten it down just because I think two hours versus an hour and a half is a bit of a.

41:19 Chris I can imagine that could put people off.

41:24 Lee I hope they don't.

41:25 Chris But it didn't feel long at all.

41:26 Lee That'd be terrible.

41:27 Lee If I'd have seen it on the night and then I get to.

41:31 Jennifer But we could make the most of that for the next, you know, several years.

41:34 Lee Oh, yeah, you can see the good version.

41:36 Jennifer Oh, no.

41:37 Lee So you're all referencing back to Joking, and oh, you didn't see it, you're like, that did you.

41:43 Jennifer No.

41:43 Jennifer I liked they did the you know, Maximum Overdrive bit as well.

41:46 Jennifer At that where they put the name of the film into the.

41:47 Lee Oh, of course.

41:48 Jennifer Yes, that always makes me laugh, so that was great.

41:51 Adam On a completely unrelated note, I have now shown Claire Maximum Overdrive.

41:55 Lee Great.

41:55 Jennifer Great.

41:57 Lee What was the

41:58 Lee Yeah, was she impressed?

41:58 Adam What did you think?

42:02 Lee Crazy what it was.

42:02 Adam It's the one with Emilio Estevez and living trucks.

42:06 Jennifer Big green faces on trucks.

42:09 Lee She said, it was good.

42:10 Chris She goes.

42:10 Adam Fucking mad, it was good.

42:12 Adam I liked it.

42:13 Jennifer It's great.

42:14 Adam It's also great because the DVD I've got has got the Stephen King trailer where you're like Steve have a sit down.

42:21 Lee Yeah.

42:22 Adam Have a sit down and a drink.

42:25 Adam Not that.

42:25 Lee No.

42:26 Adam Drink no, water.

42:27 Adam That's what you need.

42:28 Adam He's not a calm man at that point.

42:31 Adam So.

42:32 Jennifer Nice.

42:34 Lee yes, and then Lady Jennifer and I and Dave returned on the Sunday, as we said for power tool cheerleaders versus the boy band of the screeching dead.

42:45 Jennifer Perfect time for the weekend.

42:48 Chris Yeah, it's good.

42:49 Lee I I've got to say when it first started, so we saw the actors who we'd seen from the previous day's films, and I was like, oh, excellent, they're in it, that's that's a good sign already, I'm definitely down for this.

43:12 Lee and then it was like the Troma logo as well, so I was like, yep, right, that's it, I'm dialed in, this is where I want to be.

43:19 Lee And then I discovered it's a musical.

43:23 Chris Oh.

43:25 Lee But I I've got to say, I I yeah, despite the fact I cringe so badly at musicals, I can't be in the same room as them normally, I did stay all the way to the end and thoroughly enjoyed it.

43:38 Chris Oh, well done.

43:39 Lee Yeah, it they were good, they were funny songs.

43:42 Lee and it was played up like intentionally over the top.

43:49 Lee but yeah, I mean this film would have been a perfect double header with Eating Miss Campbell, I think.

43:54 Jennifer See, I preferred this one, I don't know if it's because it was not quite as over the top, I mean obviously it was, but yeah, I don't know, I like this one, I like the story of this one as well, I suppose, it made a bit more sense perhaps to me, a bit more coherent, but still with all the craziness in it.

44:10 Lee Yes.

44:11 Lee Yeah, so as we say, so it was the couple from Eating Miss Campbell, so it's James and Malton and Charlie Bond.

44:17 Lee were the who were the main characters.

44:20 Lee yeah, and I I yeah, I really enjoyed it.

44:22 Lee It was really funny, it was over the top, gory and ludicrous.

44:27 Jennifer And of course, filmed in South End.

44:30 Lee Oh yeah.

44:31 Jennifer Oh, so on the way home, Dave said, oh, do you want to have a little detour and we'll drive past the sort of American style diner where the the the the film opens.

44:40 Lee And they do their first singing number.

44:45 Lee So we stopped outside there on the way back and we're definitely going to go back and have a meal in there.

44:50 Lee Just to soak up the atmosphere from the film.

44:53 Chris Yeah, excellent.

44:54 Lee So yeah.

44:55 Lee but yeah, it was again, it was just an absolute laugh riot, it was really good, it was really well paced and hilarious.

45:07 Lee there weren't too many songs and as I say, a lot of the time they were kind of in there intentionally hammy and stuff.

45:12 Jennifer I think they just actually they moved the narrative on as well, which so in a way, it wasn't like they were stuck in and you felt it was slowing it down.

45:19 Jennifer It was like, right, this is covered this bit now, yeah, and then.

45:22 Lee Okay, yeah.

45:22 Jennifer Which I think, you know, worked well, really.

45:25 Lee Yeah, it was like an exposition tool rather than let's just stick a random song in here for three minutes for no reason whatsoever, which is what pisses me off with musicals.

45:32 Lee So yeah, I think when it works as part of the story.

45:35 Lee It yeah, it it works.

45:39 Lee So yeah, I totally enjoyed this and it was another definite recommend for me.

45:43 Chris

45:43 Chris Great.

45:44 Lee Definitely go.

45:45 Lee I actually there was another actor in there as well who was in the first film, oh, Annabella Rich as well, who was in the first one who played the over the top, over excitable American

45:53 Jennifer Teacher, wasn't she?

45:54 Lee No, she wasn't a teacher.

45:55 Lee She was like the PA or something.

45:57 Jennifer Oh, yes, that's right, they were sleeping with the head.

45:58 Lee That's right, yeah.

45:59 Lee And ended up in a body bag.

46:01 Lee yeah.

46:02 Lee So she was in this as well.

46:04 Lee yeah, I just absolutely.

46:05 Lee Yeah.

46:06 Jennifer Yeah.

46:06 Jennifer Yeah, and of course this was Pat Higgins, who every year at Horror on Sea.

46:12 Jennifer there's always Pat Higgins' masterclass, which we never go to because we don't want to learn how to make horror films, but I feel like, you know, finally seen.

46:19 Lee What he can do.

46:20 Jennifer I'd been more tempted to go to the class just because he was hilarious.

46:22 Lee Absolutely.

46:23 Lee In himself.

46:24 Lee Oh and he the final scene of the show of the movie, he is wearing a horror on C t-shirt as well.

46:29 Lee So I really like that.

46:30 Chris Yeah.

46:31 Lee Yeah.

46:31 Jennifer Yeah.

46:32 Jennifer Yeah, more of that please next year.

46:34 Jennifer More free things.

46:37 Adam We are not above bribery.

46:39 Jennifer Absolutely, definitely.

46:42 Lee Anyway, right, thanks ever so much for listening, everybody, and we'll see you next week.

46:45 Lee Good night.

46:46 Chris Thank you.

46:46 Chris Good night.

46:47 Jennifer Bye.

46:48 Adam Bye.