The Tomb of Ligeia
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It’s Poe Time! Join us as we venture out into the daylight and visit “The Tomb of Ligeia”. A film in which Captain Peacock serves the tea, whilst Slartibartfast and Doctor Who’s Nero have dinner; meanwhile Vincent Price auditions as frontman of The Byrds, and attempts to convince us that he could hurt a cat. The last of the Roger Corman / Edgar Allan Poe films finally sees the series move out of the studio for some beautiful location shooting in the English Countryside. A wonderfully distressed and melancholy Price is matched by two excellent performances from Elizabeth Shepherd as both feisty and romantic Rowena, and the foreboding, electrifying will of Ligeia. With support by an excellent cast of familiar British character actors, the film still ties in with the others in the series, with woozy dream (and dream-like) sequences, and the inevitable conflagration of the main setting. Watch (or re-watch) to avoid spoilers and join us.
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LeeGood evening and welcome to horror. I'm Lee.
ChrisI'm Chris.
AdamI'm Adam.
Leeand we're here this evening with spoilers and swearing to cover 1964's The Tomb of Ligeia.
Leea film which I have just seen on the IMDB is apparently X-rated. I have no idea why.
ChrisWell, there is the hottest feline action we may have ever seen in a film that that we've covered.
AdamOh, I don't know, you have to go a long way to beat The Uncanny.
LeeYeah.
ChrisWell, that is true, but especially where this one ended in a huge flames engulfing everything.
ChrisI think literally it was hot as well as figuratively.
ChrisBut I'm sure I'm sure no animals, cats or foxes were harmed for this.
ChrisAlthough it did look like Vincent Price might have might have taken a bit of a swipe.
ChrisI'm I'm guessing it was a stunt double.
ChrisBut it was like it looked like it was still him and he.
LeeYeah, straight in his face.
ChrisYeah, straight in his face.
ChrisAnd I was like, was that him?
ChrisIt did look like it was still him.
ChrisBut I didn't rewind and check or, you know.
AdamNo.
AdamVincent Price was an animal lover, so I'd imagine he didn't have too much worry with that.
LeeWhich.
LeeWhich is what makes me laugh, the the scene in which he's supposed to be strangling the cat and he's got his hand around its throat and the noise is going And that cat couldn't be more chill.
LeeHe was obviously being so kind to that cat.
LeeI was like.
LeeYeah, the sound isn't made.
LeeBut anyway, sorry, we've jumped ahead.
LeeSo,
Leethis, so I've seen this a couple of times, I believe, enough for the to want to go and see the Abbey, which is why we decided to cover it.
LeeI went to the Abbey where it was shot, a couple of weeks ago and checked that out and it was amazing.
LeeAdam, what's your history with this movie?
Adam
AdamThis would have been a, I'm assuming I don't know the history of it, but I'm assuming like, don't have the proper schedule, it feels like I would have seen it as a Friday night double bill, possibly with a universal because this kind of would have been the more color.
LeeYeah.
AdamThis would have.
AdamThis would have fulfilled the Hammer role that those things used to have.
AdamSo, I.
AdamBasically, I was I know I know I saw it, but.
Adamit hadn't been for a long time.
AdamI've got it on Blu-ray, but this is actually the first time watching it on Blu-ray because this was one of those moments a few years back when money was more plentiful.
AdamThat Arrow would do a sale.
AdamAnd it's like, I can get.
AdamApart from Mask of the Red Death, I can get all the Corman Poe Vincent Price films.
AdamSo I bought them up at that point.
AdamAnd, yeah, so this is probably definitely the cleanest I've seen it in a in a long, long time.
LeeYeah, I watched my Midnight Movies Double Bill DVD.
LeeSo it's this on one side and then the other side is an evening with Edgar Allan Poe, which is just Vincent Price reading Poe.
AdamOh, yes.
Leebut yeah, I've got that one.
AdamThat's good.
AdamIs that the one where he keeps saying Bozom?
LeePossibly, I I've only watched it once.
Leebut yeah, I I've got to admit, I think, just before we hand over to Chris, I think this is possibly my least favorite of the Corman Poe films.
LeeIt the end 10 minutes is brilliant, everything running up to that just doesn't grab me.
LeeI must have had to say no out loud to myself.
Leeand put my phone down at least five times before I got to the end of this.
Leeso yeah, that just tells you everything.
LeeBut Chris, as it's your first viewing, why don't you give us your opinions?
ChrisIt is, and I want to start by saying that, it seems like it's been a long time since we've watched Vincent Price.
ChrisNot for you two.
Adamwe covered him a fortnight ago, didn't we?
ChrisYeah, that's true.
ChrisDid we?
ChrisYeah, yeah.
ChrisYou did.
ChrisBut I was like, have I, have I seen him recently?
ChrisLike.
AdamSo last time would have been episode, so I've just because I've actually written it down.
LeeOh, well done.
AdamEpisode 148, The Pit and the Pendulum was the last time we did.
ChrisNow, 148 sounds like quite high, but what are we on now?
Lee200.
ChrisYeah.
AdamWell done.
ChrisYeah, yeah.
ChrisSo.
ChrisSo I do remember Pit and Pendulum, yep, okay.
ChrisYeah.
AdamBefore that it would have been Raven.
Adam
ChrisYes, yep.
AdamAnd then, which obviously two other from the Poe cycle.
ChrisPoe, yeah.
Adamso that seems to have been the sort of line we've been taking with Vincent.
ChrisSo yeah, like I really like him reading some of what are clearly Poe pieces, you know, it's very obvious.
AdamYeah, you can see what's directly the text and not just.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisAnd and I really like that.
ChrisI suppose it's.
ChrisFor me, I I feel like I'm at the point where I could probably watch Vincent Price in anything.
ChrisNow, I realize you two also still there.
ChrisBut it's like I've reached that point where it's like he's he's just.
ChrisIt's really enjoyable knowing what you're going to get.
ChrisWhereas the first few films, you know, you're getting used to it a little bit, even though you're clearly, you can see how impressive he is.
ChrisIt's like fully appreciate it.
ChrisI did happen to hear Thriller recently and heard his voice and I was like, yes, this great, you know, really like that now.
AdamWhich I think I think probably for me and me and Lee was probably.
AdamOne of the first encounters with Vincent Price.
LeeDefinitely.
ChrisWell, it turns out when that voice was on.
AdamYeah.
ChrisYou hear it.
ChrisYou're like, that's great.
ChrisNow realizing just, you know, who he is.
LeeWho he is.
ChrisHe's yeah, all of his legacy.
ChrisLike it's like, yeah, okay.
ChrisThat's that's really exciting now when that comes on.
ChrisIn fact, that's almost like, you know, that's almost the best bit of the song.
LeeYeah.
AdamYeah.
ChrisBut but yeah.
ChrisSo I think it's going to be hard to separate that from any film that I watch with him.
ChrisSo it's that probably ramps up almost any film.
ChrisSo I I really liked this.
ChrisObviously, I mean.
ChrisI'm assuming Adam does really like this even if it's not your favorite, Lee.
LeeI still enjoy it.
LeeIt's just my least favorite of the.
ChrisNo, that might still be a pretty high bar.
ChrisYou know.
LeeExactly.
AdamCan I just ask at this point, are you including The Premature Burial in that, Lee?
AdamBecause that's the one that he's that Vincent Price isn't in.
AdamAnd I can't for the life of me remember a thing about that film.
LeeNor can I.
LeeIt's on the shelf, I I really need to to go back and re-watch it.
AdamAgain, let's face it, you want to go for the Corman Poe cycle.
AdamNo, that that is the Poe Corman Price cycle.
AdamThat's what it is in your head, even though there's one that doesn't have Vincent Price in it.
AdamNo, that's the criteria I'm heading for that.
ChrisSo what what are the other Corman films we've seen?
Adamso yeah, so we did The Pit and the Pendulum.
ChrisThat that yeah.
AdamAnd we did.
ChrisThe Raven was his as well then or no.
AdamYeah, the Raven the Raven is there.
AdamBecause that's based on the poem.
AdamAnd we did Tales of Terror really early on.
LeeYes.
AdamThat was that was episode 19.
ChrisRemind me.
AdamAnd that is the one that's basically three Poe stories in like an anthology.
AdamAnd you've got the.
ChrisRight.
AdamWhat is it the case of M. Valdemar.
AdamThe Black Cat.
AdamAnd.
ChrisYeah, I was going to say the cat.
ChrisThere was a cat in it.
AdamAnd Lado.
Chris
AdamSo that's where they get the the one where someone they so it's got the three.
ChrisYep.
AdamWhich actually probably makes sense because like this is I read Ligeia this afternoon.
ChrisOh.
AdamAnd.
ChrisI was going to you either you either read.
AdamLike high speed.
AdamIt's it's 10 pages.
LeeOh, is it?
ChrisYeah.
AdamYeah, it's really, really short.
AdamAnd that's the thing is because literally I because I just in my head.
AdamI was like, right, now I've read it and I know I've seen the film and I know the film's different.
AdamBut I wanted to sort of clear in my head, like just experience the story.
AdamThe story is literally him telling you that.
Adam
AdamIt's like a a reminisce, it's like a sort of a conversational remembrance of someone talking to you about.
Adamhe met this woman Ligeia who was extraordinary, both in appearance and mind and was a fierce, like sort of cultist intellectual.
Adamwho dies.
AdamHe's obviously he then basically does a load of opium.
Adambuys a ruined Abbey.
AdamAnd then somehow, because it's really sort of quickly in the text, you suddenly realize he's remarried.
LeeHuh.
AdamSo, you know, just just like, but.
ChrisJust that yeah, that's that's clearly quite incidental to him.
AdamYeah.
AdamYeah.
AdamAnd.
AdamAnd.
AdamAnd basically.
ChrisWhich it turns out.
ChrisYeah.
AdamAnd then and then she dies.
AdamAnd then basically, yeah, she dies and then the body comes back to life.
AdamBut then she takes like the wrapping.
AdamThe shroud from around her face and it's Ligeia rather than the
AdamOh.
AdamTrevelyan.
ChrisRowena.
AdamI can't think what the name.
AdamTremain.
AdamOh my brain is completely doing.
LeeLady Rowena.
ChrisTrevelion.
AdamTravanian.
AdamYeah, that's it.
AdamYeah, Rowena, yeah.
AdamWhich I thought was just why they kept going in IT Crowd that time.
AdamBut Oh, Black book.
AdamSorry, yes.
LeeBlack books.
AdamBut yeah, so it's.
AdamI
AdamSo yeah, that so literally everything else is built around that.
AdamThere's no.
ChrisExpanded reasonably well then.
AdamThey've expanded it but when you hear the script writer.
Adamtalking about it, he basically is like, oh yes, a man who's been hypnotized into being a necrophiliac.
ChrisYeah.
AdamYou like.
AdamYeah.
AdamWhen you put it like that, it's quite fucking blunt.
AdamYou know.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisHe did seem, you know, reasonably obsessed by by what looked like dead women.
LeeI got that bit dropped me, I had forgotten that bit.
LeeYeah, with a, you know, when they go into the chamber and she's just laying in the bed and I was like, oh.
AdamYeah.
LeeI didn't remember that being a thing.
AdamYou're certainly thinking Trakinko, that's what that.
LeeThat.
AdamBut and but I I think Elizabeth Shepherd who plays Rowena and Ligeia,
ChrisAnd yeah.
AdamShe's really good, but it's the bit where she's hypnotized and she's she's speaking as Ligeia.
AdamAnd you haven't heard Ligeia speak, but you know, oh, no, that's her voice, it's just it's just lower and even and.
LeeYeah.
AdamFucking terrifying, you know.
AdamAnd that little switch there is really really great, I think.
AdamI think this.
AdamYou know.
AdamIt's it's a it's a good cast.
AdamYou know, Vincent Price.
AdamYou know, it's it's you know, there's.
ChrisYeah, I think I do think they work well together.
ChrisAll all three of them in this this weird love triangle of death and cats.
LeeI mean, it's lovely as well.
LeeThat's the other thing, you know, although I say it's possibly my least favorite.
LeeThere's some really weird shots in there.
LeeThe shot where she where they're chasing the fox and it's proper weird shaky cam.
LeeI liked that.
LeeAnd the bit when they do the they do a zoom up to Vincent Price's face when he out.
AdamYeah.
LeeAnd it sort of they they speed up that zoom.
LeeAnd it gives it a really weird sort of jiggle was it, and it just really odd.
LeeLike and I remember that shot.
LeeI said I think I've watched it once, possibly twice, not for at least 15 years, but that is the shot I remember.
LeeIs just that funny hicle pickle zoom into his face.
LeeWhere it just.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisThey they really are trying to accentuate the psychological aspect, I guess.
ChrisIt's another one of those films that what is real and what is all in his mind, what is in in theory, Ligeia's mind, if she is alive or not.
ChrisAnd what is in Rowena's mind.
AdamAnd that's very much the the thing of Poe.
AdamThat's why I think I think they're good adaptions in that sense because Poe is very.
AdamHallucinatory or sort of, you know, it's one, it's basically like being accosted by someone at the end of their tether.
LeeYeah.
AdamYou know, or I've just been accosted by a sort of mad man in the street who has to tell you his story.
AdamBut it's sort of, you know, and so again that is.
AdamThe best way to do Poe because I know that because that's the thing.
AdamHe's he's.
AdamLike Tales of Terror is probably the best idea because they made an anthology of it rather than because.
AdamExtrapolating from Ligeia the story to Tomb of Ligeia the film.
AdamYeah.
AdamThere's a lot more and it's also there's also a lovely sort of element of.
AdamRight, well we've got to do Poe bingo.
LeeYeah.
AdamYou know.
AdamAnd sort of right, premature burial tick, you know, black cat tick, you know.
AdamIt sort of Vincent Price tick.
AdamIt's.
ChrisNo, so I thought the Mesmer and hypnotism aspect was very interesting.
ChrisThat that made that quite prominent in this.
ChrisAgain.
ChrisWhat.
ChrisYou know, how much of it is true, and you could imagine based on the time that this was sitting.
ChrisI'm assuming that was perhaps the time where it was peak.
ChrisPeople not understanding the power of mesmerization and.
LeeYeah, mesmerism.
LeeYeah.
ChrisYeah.
AdamHypnosis.
ChrisYeah.
AdamI mean, I still think there is a there's a fairly high level of that.
ChrisYeah.
AdamBecause it is.
AdamIt is because it is one of the it's really is one of the tropes.
AdamOf, you know, the someone hypnotic, particularly in horror.
LeeYeah.
AdamYou know.
AdamAnd I still think that there are probably people out there where it's like.
AdamOh, no, that, you know, oh, no, it wasn't.
ChrisBut.
AdamYou know, she genuinely was eating an onion as if it were an apple.
LeeYeah.
ChrisYeah, and I saw her.
ChrisBut then the way that's like, you know, also sort of leading into almost the dark power over someone, witchcraft and, you know.
ChrisBecause you tend to think of hypnosis not as
ChrisEvil.
LeeProbably.
ChrisCult like that, yeah, cult, yeah, like, but.
ChrisYeah, I wonder how people sort of were thinking of it, in comparison to those.
ChrisAnd, yeah, and like Ligeia been able to control people from.
ChrisBeyond the grave, beyond.
AdamYep.
ChrisYeah, then.
ChrisYeah, that's pretty good.
AdamBut because that's the thing is it's all about the the force of will.
AdamWhereas it's in.
ChrisYeah.
AdamYou know.
AdamBut there is the sort of.
AdamThere is the sort of hint that, oh, no, Ligeia Ligeia is in the cat.
Chris
AdamBut her her soul is actually.
LeeThat's how I remembered it it being her soul in the cat and then yeah, so when I watched it and it wasn't that at all.
LeeI was like, oh, it's not what I remember.
LeeBut.
Leebut yeah, it it's good it is a good bit of misdirection.
LeeBecause you think you've got a handle on it from the beginning, so when it when it turns at the end in the last 10 minutes and you realize that isn't the case and you find out where he's really been going and what's been going on.
LeeIt's yeah, it's actually a good twist.
AdamIt's well, I mean, the thing is with it.
AdamAnd I I kind of get where they were coming from, but apparently Roger Corman and Robert Town who the screenwriter, they didn't want to cast Vincent Price.
Chris
AdamBecause they were because they said basically because he was too old.
AdamBecause they the way they saw it was that the character was, who was it they I know they did say a name.
AdamOh, Richard Chamberlin, yeah.
AdamAnd.
AdamYou know, they they basically, they wanted some sort of like dashing sort of 20 to 25 to 30 year old sort of Heathcliff, Mr. Darcy sort of figure.
LeeYeah.
AdamYou know, sort of dashing but troubled, like a Brody sort of, you know, sort of bachelor.
AdamAnd then and at this point Vincent Price is 53 in this.
AdamSo, you know.
AdamBut the but basically it was AIP who said, no, you've got to have Vincent Price in it.
AdamBecause that's what sells these films, you know, it's that.
LeeAbsolutely.
AdamBut I it's it's weird because I kind of get, like you say, there's the element of the twist.
AdamBut because it's Vincent Price, you know that it probably will end, you know.
AdamIt.
LeeIn it's going to end in a dungeon with fire and.
AdamYeah.
AdamHe's not it there's no element of being misunderstood.
LeeYeah.
AdamYou know.
AdamHe's like, well, what's he doing, I'll tell you what he's doing, he's creeping out at night and he's digging out bodies.
AdamThat's what he's doing.
AdamYou know, it's.
ChrisHe did seem to play a more subtle role in this.
AdamHe's the burbs.
LeeYeah, he's the burbs.
AdamYeah.
LeeYeah, he did again, this reminds me more of like The Pit and the Pendulum, which again is a very similar sort of story-wise, but yeah, he does play a much more subdued character in this.
LeeWhich I think works well, I mean, it's.
ChrisIt does do it well.
LeeYeah.
AdamI think he plays fucking anguish and sort of, you know, losing your bloody mind really rather well and rather poignantly.
AdamI think, you know, that's that's the key is it's actually is, I think he's a lot better than they probably gave him credit for.
LeeYeah.
LeeOh, yeah, yeah.
AdamYou know, he is really, you know, it's a very pained existence thing, you know.
AdamThere's no, it's not like a sort of.
AdamYou know, it's there's there's no winner or no sort of like, you know.
AdamIt's just, oh, here's suffering and here's some more suffering.
LeeAnd it's all.
ChrisPsychological power of grief.
LeeIt's a very unusual relationship as well, isn't it, because obviously she turns up, he immediately grabs her and starts shaking her, never turn up here unannounced, and then two minutes later, he's trying to kiss her in the pantry.
AdamI didn't I didn't see him touch your pantry.
LeeBut yeah, so it is a slightly.
LeeAnd again, it's her statement when she first leaves with the other guy, with Christopher, and he says, well, what did you think of him, and she said, well, I don't like him much, but it doesn't mean I don't love him, and I was like, literally, you just met him two minutes ago and he scared you so badly, you fainted immediately.
AdamI think I think she said fascinated or something like that.
AdamIt's like, yeah, sort of who who want is drawn to.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd it's like, yeah.
AdamBut that, I mean, chatting cabbages and everything else like that, you know, it ain't gonna work.
AdamIt's sort of you know, it's.
Leeone of my favorite things about this film, it's got to be said, the opening title sequence, those three drawings that keep coming up again and again.
LeeIt look like a Slayer album.
LeeIt's fantastic, I love those.
AdamYeah.
Adamand and the the poster for it is fucking brilliant.
LeeYeah.
AdamJust that giant angular cat head.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd it's just again, and he's got the, he's got the small faces glasses on as well.
AdamSo it feels quite.
LeeYeah.
AdamFeels quite swinging.
AdamYou know.
AdamSo.
Adam
AdamI got to we got to the end and I was like, I fucking know this.
AdamIt's just a particular bit shot of the flames with the masked fig the shrouded figure coming out towards Vincent Price and a bit of Vincent Price.
Adamand I was like, I bloody know that.
AdamAnd I had a look and it's it's in Mean Streets.
AdamScorcese film they all go to the cinema at one point and that's what they're watching.
Lee
AdamAnd but the weird thing is it was like, right, I've clearly not seen fucking Mean Streets.
LeeOh.
AdamRecently enough either, because, you know, there would have been a time I would have just been like, oh, Mean Streets.
LeeStraight off.
AdamYeah.
Adamand the other thing was is.
Adamthat it is also what's it called Elvira's Haunted Hills, there is a another Elvira movie.
LeeThere is, yes.
AdamAnd which is basically the Tomb of Ligeia with Richard O'Brien playing the Vincent Price role.
AdamHe's even got the glasses.
LeeYeah.
AdamSo.
ChrisAnd that's good.
LeeYeah, I I like it, I I think it's a a good fun movie.
Lee
LeeBut yeah, I just like a comedy.
LeeIt it's very much it is, but you can feel it's very much lower budget than the first one.
LeeBut it was made a long time after, so I think
LeeYeah, I don't think she was quite the commodity that she had been, obviously, when she was, you know, still running her horror nights and stuff.
Lee
LeeBut yeah.
AdamI think I.
AdamI think in in fairness, I also think it's like they've done a genuine attempt to make an Elvira horror comedy.
AdamBecause Elvira Mistress of the Dark is a horror comedy, but it's it it's not done like a horror film, if you see what I mean.
AdamWhereas that feels much more like they've right right, it's like how Young Frankenstein is universal, they've kind of gone, right, we're doing the Corman Poe films.
LeeYeah.
Chris
AdamAnd if and if you pick up on it, you get it, but it's like it's not.
LeeYeah, you don't miss out.
AdamYes, exactly, yeah.
AdamIt's just an added like layer into it.
LeeYeah, it's a it's a shame when I went to to visit the Abbey, it's a shame I hadn't seen this for such a long time.
LeeBecause I remembered the look of it very clearly, which is why I went when we were sort of looking up places to go, as soon as I saw the Abbey, I was like, that's the one from the Tomb of Ligeia, it's got to be, so I went and Googled it and double checked and it was.
Lee
AdamHalter Lake a Priory.
LeeIt is, yes, yes.
Leeoh yeah, it's a great day out.
Leeyeah, we really enjoyed it.
LeeBut I wish I'd seen the film and maybe taken a few sort of screenshots from it and tried to replicate them more when I was there, but yeah.
AdamIt's by the way, it was also the ruins of Dungarth in Nightmare, you know the kids TV show where you they put a helmet on a kid and he comes to his screen and they send him around a warehouse.
LeeYeah.
AdamGreat them blue screen as he would have been then a load of puppets on the walls.
LeeYeah.
AdamIt's it's for so it was using that.
ChrisDid anyone ever complete that?
LeeI didn't.
ChrisI can't remember.
AdamDid you?
AdamOnly only when they did a like they did a marathon on Challenge one weekend and I was like.
AdamI fuck it, I I've got a weekend, I'm watching that.
ChrisI'm here, I'm in for this.
AdamYeah.
AdamAnd yeah, no.
AdamA few people won, but fuck me, most most did not, I don't think.
ChrisIt was funny, how futuristic that was at the time.
LeeIt was, yeah.
LeeIt was so chunky now.
LeeI need to go back and re-watch it, I'm sure they're all on, you know, YouTube or whatever.
AdamOh, they they must be and they they're always.
AdamIt's it's there's I don't the good thing is is having grown up with it, you don't feel like you're shouting at children, you're shouting at people your own age and.
ChrisOh.
AdamSay turn left, you fucking idiot.
ChrisIt was it was frustrating.
AdamAnd obviously they go to Stonehenge.
LeeYes.
AdamIt was well.
AdamAnd that's like, oh, yeah, when you could.
LeeYeah.
ChrisYeah.
AdamYou know, they just they just rocked that one up one evening with with the cameras and just and wondering.
LeeYeah.
AdamWander around starting.
AdamI do want I I do have to oh, yes, I do have to read this quote.
AdamSo, like I was saying about like they didn't want Vincent Price to be to be in it.
AdamAnd this is what the the script writer said, I think it would have been better if it had been with a man who didn't look like a necrophiliac to begin with.
LeeYeah.
AdamI love Vincent, he's very sweet, but going in, you suspect that Vincent can bank cats, chickens, girls, dogs, everything.
AdamYou just feel necrophilia might be one of his basic things.
AdamI'd felt for the role called for an almost unnaturally handsome guy who the second wife could easily fall in love with.
AdamSo, yeah, that was but yeah.
AdamI mean, a lovely way to talk about.
AdamTalk about yeah, talk about your star, isn't it, you know.
AdamThere's I was I was really pleased to say though, because this was filmed over here.
Adamthere's lots of there's lots of British people in there.
AdamAnd you've got the Captain Peacock turns up as one of the servants at the Travanian house.
LeeYes.
Adamthere's the doctor who is Slasty Bartfast from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy and the radio.
AdamAnd and he was in Village of the Damned.
LeeNo.
Adamand actually Captain Peacock was in Carry on Screaming.
AdamSo, you know, they're all these weird people that are actually returning.
LeeYeah, he's in Carry On Films, wasn't he?
AdamYeah, yes he is.
AdamYeah.
AdamThat's it.
AdamAnd but yeah, and we're watching it.
AdamBecause Lord Travanian is fucking fantastic, he's just such a sort of like.
AdamHe is me and Claire were trying to work out what we'd seen him in.
AdamAnd we were like, is it Black Adder?
AdamIt was like the he was that right level of sort of, you know, sort of comedically upper class prat.
AdamYou know, that it would be, you know, he would have been.
AdamAnd
AdamAnd actually, I've got a hand in I've got to hand in my notice as at a Doctor Who fan because it was Claire who realized we'd watched him in Doctor Who, a story called The Romans.
AdamIn which he plays Nero and he's an absolute fucking awful bastard.
AdamHe's just he is exactly the same thing, he plays it like a fucking toddler.
AdamHe's brilliant in it.
AdamAnd
LeeI.
AdamBut yeah, and he's in like loads of hammers and carry-ons and stuff like that.
LeeThat's why as soon as I saw him, I was like, I'm sure I know him from a carry on, but I can't remember.
LeeIt might be carry on camping, is he the father with the shotgun, possibly.
AdamHe is.
AdamYes, he's the farmer.
AdamYeah.
LeeYeah.
AdamYeah.
AdamHe's in Carry On Henry and Carry On Matron as well.
AdamOh, and Carry On Doctor.
AdamAnd he's in Jabberwocky, which I've got to fucking watch again soon.
AdamI just feel a re-watch of Jabberwocky coming on.
LeeOh, I've only seen that the once with you and that was a very long time, that was well before we moved here, so it was over 16 years ago now.
AdamYeah, I'm just yeah, just just feeling the Gilliam itch, I think.
AdamWhich does sound like a terrible medical problem.
LeeYeah, I I the thing is.
LeeI say this is my as I said, I think this is possibly my least favorite, but.
LeeThe whole time I was watching it, I was thinking, I need to dig the rest of this collection out.
LeeBecause I've got them all scattered around on shelves.
Lee
LeeAnd I I do need to go back and rewatch it.
LeeBecause they are so rewatchable.
LeeThey're nice and short and.
LeeYeah, just, you know, generally pretty well paced and, you know, get to the considering they're very, very loosely based on stories that sometimes, you know, are four or five pages long and they manage to get an hour and 20 minute film out of it.
Lee
LeeBut yeah, I I just I always find them enjoyable, they're great for watching in bed at night because they're interesting, but they're subdued enough that it's not going to suddenly, you know, wake you up and upset your sleep.
AdamYeah, they're also that's the good thing they're also that's sort of they're lovely and and sort of woozy.
LeeYeah.
AdamBut don't tend to break that.
AdamThey just sort of, oh, that was another thing.
AdamApparently, you know, there is the the dream sequence in this.
Lee
Adamapparently that's not in slow motion, they just told them to move slowly.
LeeOh, really?
ChrisAnd then I suppose the effect they apply gives it they give it shimmering soft dream, yeah, soft sort of edges effect, don't they.
Adamsoft focus and then yeah, and they just get everyone to move slowly.
AdamBut that did sort of feel like an inverse of Garmarera and Giga.
AdamThey can't afford slow mo, so you'll just have to move slowly, guys, come on.
AdamDon't add the crank this camera, you know.
LeeYeah, it's it's I just I love the all the interior stuff as well.
LeeI don't obviously, I'm assuming that was all sound stage.
AdamYeah, I think so.
AdamIt's only it's only but that's the thing is I think this is the only one that's got any location shooting at all.
LeeYeah.
LeeI think it is.
AdamThe rest of them are all entirely studio bound, aren't they.
LeeYeah, and then I think they're all like matte paintings for the external stuff.
LeeSo yeah, I think this is the only one that's shot outside.
LeeSo it does look very different.
LeeBut I I thought it did a really good job of it and yeah, I mean, such a great location to use.
LeeSo the so the Abbey itself is obviously ancient ruins.
LeeBut then the Tudor bit that's on it, when he carries her through that massive arch into the new, that's actually there.
LeeThey did just kind of.
AdamOh.
LeeBuild a Tudor building on the side of the Abbey that's still it's not used now.
AdamOh, well.
Leebut yeah, it's that's I mean, that's hundreds of years old now as well.
LeeBut yeah, it it's really strange that they've got this, you know, 800 year old Abbey or whatever.
LeeAnd then after it crumbled down, I'm assuming, they just suddenly tacked this Tudor building on 400 years later.
LeeBut yeah, it's it is very cool to walk around, so if you ever get the chance, do go and see it.
AdamI think I have to because it looks it looks bloody amazing.
LeeYeah.
AdamIt weirdly enough, I think it's one of those things where I'm like, why haven't I seen more shot here?
AdamThat's why because that's why I looked it up.
AdamBecause I was like, well, if Jim Lair's done it, you know, there's probably a few more and I said Nightmare was the only thing I could find particularly.
AdamSo, yeah.
LeeYeah, it's a shame because yeah, it's a fantastic location.
LeeIt's again, it's one of those, it's like a Grimdyke Manor or Oakley.
LeeWhere you just assume it's in almost anything that you watch, you know, horror related, but yeah, it doesn't doesn't show up as much as it deserves.
AdamYeah.
ChrisI've got a few, few nearly final thoughts as to why I like this, dual identity, Gothic realism, will over death, pure willpower can possibly transcend mortality.
ChrisPsychological possession, cat as mesmeric familiar, romantic horror and death as seduction.
LeeNice.
LeeI mean, they are all selling points.
AdamAre they are they are you just trying out like names for perfumes?
LeeYeah.
LeeOr taglines for Columbo episodes.
AdamOh, yeah.
Lee
AdamDeath of seduction is that that would frankly be any any I think.
ChrisCould add the the love triangle part, but we won't go too far back down that route.
LeeYeah.
ChrisWith with possibly litigated ourselves.
AdamThat's is that Vincent Price state.
AdamIs is that the tagline of the film then, is it?
Chrisit's love triangle of death.
AdamIt's a love triangle, but one of the corners is dead.
AdamIt's it's there we go.
AdamIt's a dry run weekend at Bernie's.
LeeYeah.
AdamSo.
Leeso for our next episode.
LeeWe don't have anything penciled in, I just realized.
AdamOh, shit.
ChrisRight, there you go.
ChrisThere's there's the challenge for this.
ChrisThis one, which one of you is going to be the first to come up with the thing we watch next.
ChrisRight, you got you got like one minute left, go.
AdamOh, shit.
LeeWe have four minutes until the timer ends.
ChrisI'm sure you mentioned something earlier and I thought, oh, that sounds like something we could watch.
ChrisAnd now I have no idea what it was.
ChrisI think it was no, it was something that you both said, I think.
ChrisNeither of you've seen or you possibly don't like.
ChrisAnd it's like, well, maybe we should watch something that.
AdamOh.
AdamOh, the premature burial, the only Corman
ChrisSo neither of us like.
Chris
AdamWhat was it?
AdamThe Premature Burial, the only Corman Poe said.
ChrisOh, yes, yes.
ChrisThere you go.
ChrisYeah.
AdamShould we?
LeeYeah, Lee doesn't look too excited about that.
LeeHe's like, I just watched one that I'm not that keen on, now you're making me watch another one that I'm not that keen on.
LeeWhat's what's the point of this?
AdamSee, I'm I'm wondering, do we need to step away or, you know.
AdamBreak break the Post.
ChrisGo go for.
AdamYeah.
AdamWe need to sort of like anti-Poe.
LeeAnti-Poe.
ChrisThat's another fragrance name, isn't it?
LeeYeah.
Lee
LeeYeah.
LeeI'm trying to find some.
ChrisI'm sure you.
LeeYes.
AdamWell, we haven't done the mummy.
LeeOh.
LeeWe haven't.
LeeAnd we've been saying we need to do that for ages.
AdamWe haven't done the mummy, we've had the mummy.
ChrisOh, oh.
LeeYeah.
LeeAdam's excited.
LeeLee's excited.
LeeIt's it's all happening.
AdamOh, it's just we haven't done a mummy.
LeeIt's kicking off in these last few minutes.
LeeWe were going to do it.
LeeWait, wait.
LeeNo.
LeeSomething came up.
ChrisDoes it.
ChrisDoes it include my my most loved actor of all time.
LeeOh, no, we're going back to the original Boris Karloff.
ChrisThis this is right back.
LeeYeah, yeah, we're not going with the terrible Tom Cruise.
ChrisThe modern remakes.
AdamI'd forgotten that happened.
LeeYeah.
LeeYou know.
ChrisDo you only do the one?
LeeYes.
ChrisDoes it.
LeeYes.
LeeI think it was supposed to be the beginning of the new dark.
LeeWhat do they call it?
ChrisAll right.
ChrisIt was so bad.
LeeYeah.
LeeThey just they tried twice, two different movies and just couldn't get it.
ChrisI had forgotten that happened.
LeeYeah.
AdamThere we go, folks.
AdamWe'll be back with you in a Fortnight's time for The Mummy.
LeeYeah.
AdamFrom 1930, whatever, Mummy with Boris Karloff, all right.
LeeUniversal.
ChrisYou can do the rest.
LeeYeah.
LeePerfect.
LeeRight, thanks ever so much for listening, everybody, have a have fun, go and check out all of the Corman Poe Price films.
LeeGo and check out, The Mummy and we will see you in a Fortnight's time.
LeeGood night.
AdamGood night.
ChrisGood night.
