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0:22 Lee Good evening and welcome to Horror. I'm Lee.

0:25 Chris I'm Chris.

0:26 Adam I'm Adam for how long?

0:30 Lee and we are here again for a round-up of what we've been watching.

0:34 Lee these are normally spoiler-free, but they'll probably still be swearing, just to make everybody aware.

0:40 Lee and let's begin with Adam. What have you been watching?

0:46 Adam Okay, right, I've got, well actually, this is what I've been listening to.

0:50 Adam there's a podcast called Broken Veil.

0:54 Adam six parts like cereal.

0:59 Adam fucking brilliant. It really is.

1:04 Adam It's basically it's because it's it's Joe Morris, who I know from other podcasts.

1:10 Adam And he presents two really good comedy podcasts.

1:14 Adam Because he writes for like Charlie Brooker.

1:17 Lee Yeah.

1:17 Adam Like what's it called? Like screen wipe and stuff like that.

1:21 Adam And he's one of the he's one of the creators of Philomena Cunk.

1:25 Lee Yes.

1:27 Chris Very good.

1:28 Adam It's yeah, just a really so I know him.

1:31 Adam He's got two podcasts. There was one called The Rule of Three, which was just comedians came on to talk about comedy they liked.

1:39 Adam If they like, you know, someone comes on and talks about Bill Hicks or a Monty Python album or something like that.

1:44 Adam And then they did, then he did a podcast called, or he's doing a podcast called Comfort Blanket.

1:50 Adam Which is again, sort of people coming on and talking about sort of just the things they watch for comfort as it were.

2:00 Adam And but yeah, so he, so I was familiar with him.

2:02 Adam And it's him and a guy called Will Maclean.

2:06 Lee Will Maclean, I wrote a book called The Apparition Phase, which is absolutely brilliant.

2:13 Adam I was going to ask you about this.

2:15 Lee I have, yes, and it's great.

2:19 Adam I've got to get that then. No, that's it.

2:21 Adam I'm going to get I'm getting that because I I bought the fucking soundtrack to the podcast.

2:25 Lee Oh, did you?

2:26 Adam Yeah, limited edition CD. I thought, I'm fucking having that, because I really enjoyed it.

2:30 Adam And it was one of those things where it's like, I can't wait for the DVD to come out almost.

2:36 Adam That's one of the things with podcasts, especially when it's something that's to a certain extent is contained.

2:40 Adam It's a series.

2:43 Lee Yeah.

2:43 Adam So it's a sort of played as real, so it's they are Joe Morris and Will Maclean.

2:51 Adam And they decided to do a paranormal podcast that led them down this weird path.

2:56 Adam there's loads of it was really wonderful being a comedy spotter.

3:03 Adam And it was like, we spoke to our, we spoke to an actor friend of ours called Tony and then he started talking, it was Tony Way.

3:11 Adam It was Hanson's dad.

3:11 Adam So I was immediately Tony Way, I know I know which Tony it is.

3:15 Adam Although because they're sort of doing it in that sort of, we'll call them Kevin.

3:21 Adam You know.

3:21 Adam and then it was another friend, a director called Al.

3:24 Adam Which was Barry Shipley, Al Campbell.

3:28 Lee Hey.

3:28 Adam And and Paul Putnam as well.

3:31 Adam Which is always always wonderful.

3:34 Adam And yeah, so they've got this really great little group of people and they sort of weave a sort of.

3:44 Adam Series of happenings together into some sort of uneasy whole that doesn't have a resolution.

3:54 Adam It's more about the speculation of what is going on.

3:59 Adam But they build this sort of.

4:00 Adam It starts like the first one, they just have it's Tony Way talking about he went for a he accidentally went to the wrong address when he was meant to have a medical for a film.

4:16 Adam and they don't know where he went, he just went somewhere.

4:22 Adam And they sort of did a a medical exam on him and he left, but it wasn't the people that were meant to have done it.

4:30 Adam And it's sort of strange and weird and sort of like, you know, sort of just a weird little anecdote that someone tells you.

4:38 Adam And then other stuff comes into it that's kind of similar, kind of.

4:43 Adam Where you feel there's a connection and seriously, they have just done it so.

4:48 Adam Brilliantly.

4:53 Adam And as I say, the first episode, I wasn't sure.

4:57 Adam It was only when the second episode came in and they were sort of like a similar experience that happened to someone.

5:02 Adam I was like, oh, right.

5:03 Adam So this is a thing.

5:03 Adam But at first, I was just like, is this just a story that Tony Way told them?

5:10 Adam And they're presenting like a real life podcast.

5:13 Adam You know, it really is really effective.

5:17 Adam And funny and yeah, it's just, it's seriously if you've.

5:22 Adam I'm I'm definitely going to buy the book.

5:25 Adam So definitely listen to the show.

5:26 Adam And like I say, the six episodes are up now, so you can do the lot.

5:30 Adam Because I started listening around.

5:34 Adam I think episode three had come out and someone was sort of like had posted about it on Instagram or something like that.

5:39 Adam And I was, oh, okay, what's this?

5:42 Adam Listen to the three episodes.

5:44 Adam And then had to wait for the next bit.

5:48 Adam And you know, and it was like, no, no, I need to hear more.

5:53 Adam And yeah, I'm hoping they'll do like a follow-up series or something similar.

5:57 Lee They are.

5:59 Adam brilliant.

6:00 Lee They are.

6:01 Lee see, I I haven't heard it yet.

6:05 Lee I'm saving it because we're going away this weekend and it's a long drive.

6:08 Lee So my plan is to queue all six episodes up and smash through it.

6:11 Lee Yeah.

6:12 Chris Perfect.

6:13 Lee I heard about it because he guested this week on one of my favorite podcasts, Loremen.

6:18 Lee

6:19 Adam Oh yes, I listen to that. Yeah.

6:21 Lee He talked about it.

6:21 Lee Yeah, and that was that was what wet my appetite and I was like, yeah, I'm definitely definitely interested in this.

6:26 Lee It sounds, I say, just everything they said about it sounded so perfect for me.

6:31 Lee So I'm so glad that you've heard it as well and thought the same.

6:34 Adam Oh, man, it's so it's so fucking good and it's just, it's been a, because.

6:40 Adam I don't know where it is, in sort of in terms of podcasts, there's a sort of, there's people who plod on like our good selves, you know what I mean, and we just release.

6:49 Adam So it's it's weird when you get something that's like a little burst.

6:52 Lee Yeah, contained.

6:53 Adam And and it's like a complete artifact.

6:56 Adam As it were.

6:57 Adam And yeah, so I mean, I think I don't listen to enough fictional podcasts.

7:01 Chris No.

7:02 Lee I definitely don't.

7:04 Lee Because I normally have them on while I'm doing stuff.

7:06 Lee So if you if you miss, you know, if it's people chatting and you miss 30 seconds of it because you're concentrating, it's not the end of the world.

7:11 Lee But if it's a story and you miss something relevant, it can throw the whole thing out of whack.

7:15 Lee Which is why I was like, I'm definitely going to save this until I'm 100% focused and can give it my full attention.

7:20 Lee But yeah.

7:22 Lee Very excited.

7:23 Adam Yes.

7:24 Adam So yeah, that's a absolute fucking complete recommend.

7:28 Adam Because yeah, I've just.

7:30 Adam It it I am genuinely annoyed that I'm not getting another episode.

7:36 Adam Like this week.

7:37 Adam You know, because I feel and it I don't think it it.

7:41 Adam Like I say, it leaves things pretty open-ended.

7:44 Adam So they could go from there, but I don't know whether they'd want to or they'd take something like a different direction or whatever like that.

7:49 Adam But this just as they did it was brilliant.

7:52 Adam You know, really really well done.

7:54 Lee Excellent.

7:55 Lee Yeah, I'm very much looking forward to it.

7:56 Lee As I say, I read The Apparition Phase, about a year, year and a half ago.

8:02 Lee Because actually it's a a friend of mine went to university with Will and said, oh, my my mate wrote this book, you should read it.

8:07 Lee It's pretty good.

8:08 Lee so we got hold of it and it just totally blew me away.

8:12 Lee I was like, oh my God, it's perfect.

8:14 Lee Yeah, so when I heard he'd teamed up with Joe, I was like, well, this this can't go wrong.

8:21 Lee This has got to be absolutely amazing.

8:23 Lee So, yeah.

8:25 Lee Awesome.

8:26 Adam Also.

8:27 Adam Also, I don't know if you I don't know if you know him.

8:30 Adam But Will Will Maclean really sounds like I created a different picture in my head.

8:38 Adam he really sounds like the actor Trevor Cooper.

8:41 Adam But he looks nothing like Trevor Cooper.

8:44 Adam Who is a very lugubrious sort of presence.

8:46 Adam but yeah.

8:48 Adam no, and funnily enough.

8:50 Adam And that's the other thing with it, it's it's sort of Essex centric.

8:54 Lee Yeah.

8:55 Adam because they both grew up around Essex, so again, it that was something that obviously drew me to it.

9:00 Adam Especially when it's like, I sort of know the bits of Essex they're talking about.

9:05 Adam Or I've been through something.

9:07 Chris That's a nice little bonus.

9:08 Adam Yeah.

9:10 Lee Excellent.

9:10 Lee Fantastic. Right, definitely be checking that out.

9:13 Lee Chris, what have you been watching?

9:16 Chris Yeah, so I've had a fun one.

9:17 Chris I seem to have managed to create a bit of a theme out of the films.

9:21 Chris Not intentionally.

9:22 Chris although it may turn out that really a lot of films we watch.

9:26 Lee It's all fucking cars.

9:27 Lee Yeah.

9:28 Chris I should do that one day, marathon Tom Cruise.

9:31 Chris A marathon Tom Cruise experience.

9:35 Chris

9:36 Chris But yeah, so, so I decided just to go for a bit of a random search, tried to go fairly deep.

9:43 Chris Just to find films that either didn't I didn't know a lot about or I didn't know that we'd necessarily spoken about.

9:52 Chris just to see if I could find any gems.

9:54 Chris

9:55 Chris So the first one I went for was Troll Hunter.

9:59 Lee Oh.

9:59 Adam Oh, man.

16:41 Chris Okay.

16:42 Chris So I don't know that we've talked about it.

16:44 Chris It seems like we may have done or talked around.

16:48 Lee I think it would have come up when we covered Rare Exports.

16:51 Chris It could have done. I mean, that's that's that's a good few years ago.

16:55 Adam It has, to be honest, and to be honest, it's probably been on the list since then.

16:59 Chris Yeah.

17:00 Adam I think something that's that's definitely one for the show as well.

17:03 Adam Like.

17:04 Adam Do a main episode on.

17:04 Adam Because.

17:05 Chris Yeah.

17:05 Adam Oh, man.

17:06 Adam It's so is it your first time seeing it?

17:08 Chris It is, yeah.

17:09 Chris And and but but so with a with a title like Troll Hunter.

17:12 Chris I was like, it could be rubbish.

17:13 Chris And I I looked at, you know.

17:15 Chris I looked a little bit of information about it, I saw Norwegian, okay, well that's good.

17:20 Chris and sort of documentary, mockumentary style.

17:25 Chris And subtitles, and I thought.

17:28 Chris I don't know, all right, I'll I'll give it a go.

17:30 Chris But my expectations are not massively high at this point because I didn't think I'd heard of it.

17:36 Chris

17:37 Chris But yeah, and it it turns out it is actually really good and there's a lot of elements in it that yeah, sort of cover all the areas that I like.

17:46 Chris You know, the fact that it's folklore meets bureaucracy.

17:50 Adam Yes.

17:51 Chris Like who you think.

17:53 Chris It's not going to work.

17:54 Chris And yet, somehow, it's it's that.

17:56 Chris I suppose is it, you know, it's like so it's 2010, we were getting things where it's like presenting kind of the mundane.

18:04 Chris And somehow pulling it off in a way that's very entertaining.

18:10 Adam I think I think now you say it, I think it just about pre-empts.

18:13 Chris Yeah.

18:14 Adam Sort of what we do in the shadows.

18:16 Adam Like the future.

18:17 Chris Yeah, exactly.

18:18 Adam And particularly obviously Wellington Paranormal that spins off that.

18:22 Chris

18:23 Adam Like Troll Hunter and Wellington Paranormal have a lot in common.

18:28 Chris

18:29 Adam if you've seen that as well, because it's just, yeah.

18:33 Adam No, it's it's so good and so funny.

18:40 Chris It is, it is very funny.

18:42 Chris And then again, that's like, that could be harder to achieve with subtitles, you know, it's not necessarily always going to work perfectly.

18:48 Chris But it really did.

18:50 Adam Yeah, they really managed to translate, you know, it translates that.

18:55 Chris That.

18:56 Adam Yeah.

18:56 Adam It it's yeah, no, there's some magnificent bits in that.

19:00 Chris Yeah.

19:00 Chris Yeah, it progresses well.

19:01 Chris I mean it's it's it's good to see the trolls, you know, if you like trolls.

19:04 Chris Which.

19:04 Lee Yeah.

19:05 Chris Doesn't really.

19:06 Adam But all the troll law is sort of correct to.

19:11 Chris Yeah, okay.

19:12 Adam Like sort of troll folklore and stuff like that.

19:14 Adam So.

19:15 Adam You know, the the mythology is correct.

19:19 Adam But it's being dealt with by, you know, just a bloke in a Jeep.

19:25 Chris Right, yeah.

19:26 Chris And and then you realize eventually.

19:30 Chris they start to bring in the whole you know, political aspect, social aspect, and so it's like, you know, we're ruining the environment, it's got all that sort of angle, and yeah, conspiracy or possible conspiracy.

19:44 Chris Because you could imagine like, there is what governments tried to do, they're trying to cover things up or deal with things, you know, so it's like it's it's treads the line, I thought very well.

19:55 Chris

19:57 Chris And so yeah, throughout I was I was very entertained and yeah, they they covered covered a lot in that.

20:03 Chris

20:04 Chris So I was kind of surprised. I thought, I'm sure we should have talked about this, but there you go.

20:08 Lee It.

20:09 Lee It it was it was just that point.

20:10 Lee It there was a few years before we started, and I've got to admit, I saw it.

20:14 Lee So so I'd heard about it and discussed it with Adam who had also heard about it.

20:20 Lee And as soon as it got released, I managed to track down a DVD and Adam came over and one Friday night and we watched it and we're blown away.

20:25 Chris Okay.

20:26 Lee And I don't think I've watched it again since, despite the fact I remember loving it.

20:30 Lee It was one of those that for some reason just never pops into my head to re-watch.

20:35 Chris I mean, yeah, you might not necessarily feel like there's a it it may not rise to the top of a, you know, a short list if you like what we're going to watch.

20:46 Chris And yet, I think if I watched it again, I would really enjoy it again.

20:49 Lee Yeah.

20:50 Adam Oh, absolutely.

20:51 Adam I think I think in the after that first time I watched it with you, Lee, I think I saw it.

20:57 Adam I watched it a a good maybe sort of four more times, I think, you know, because I because I.

21:05 Adam I I thought it was fucking brilliant.

21:07 Adam And that so immediately, I bought it so then I had to check that the Blu-ray was working.

21:12 Adam So.

21:12 Chris I watched it.

21:13 Adam I watched it.

21:15 Adam And then and then I took it around Dean's and showed Dean or vice versa, I can't remember.

21:22 Adam Anyway.

21:23 Adam And yeah, so I've showing it to people and stuff like that because I'm like, it's fucking film.

21:27 Adam You've got to see it.

21:30 Adam Yeah.

21:31 Adam So.

21:32 Adam I think yeah, I think I've watched it.

21:35 Adam I watched it and I will absolutely revisit it because I yeah, I think it is, you know.

21:43 Adam Just I'm I'm glad that you've watched it now that suggests to me, oh, it still holds up.

21:48 Chris Yeah.

21:50 Adam And everything, you know.

21:51 Adam Because sometimes when you go back to stuff and you're like, am I making allowances for myself at the time?

21:58 Adam Or.

21:59 Chris Well, I was a bit concerned, you know, how far they're going to take the effects, but I mean I still thought yeah, that all works really well.

22:05 Chris

22:06 Chris And those with a found footage sort of view, it doesn't need to be sort of the absolute best production and it still is effective.

22:16 Adam Yeah.

22:17 Adam Oh, I think I think a lot of filmmakers have woken up to that though.

22:21 Adam That it's if you do it.

22:22 Adam Particularly stylized or, you know, like with some found footage or something like that or a particular grain or whatever.

22:29 Adam It it does mean that your effects are going to like any sort of CG effects, they're going to look pretty much of the piece.

22:39 Adam They're not losing that sort of thing.

22:40 Adam Same when you're trying to do with like crystal clear fucking 4K clarity and it's like.

22:45 Lee Yeah.

22:46 Chris Yeah.

22:47 Chris Exactly.

22:48 Chris So yeah, so that was a good one.

22:50 Lee Excellent. Good choice.

22:52 Lee

22:52 Adam Right, we'll have to do it at some point.

22:54 Adam Maybe we'll do we'll do it for Christmas, we'll have a Trolley Christmas.

22:57 Lee That sounds good to me.

22:59 Lee so my.

23:01 Lee Next movie, I, following on from our last episode, Adam, you brought to my attention that there is an Asian remake of.

23:08 Lee Tucker and Dale, so I managed to track down Handsome Guys.

23:12 Lee As it is called.

23:15 Lee

23:18 Lee And yeah, totally loved it.

23:21 Adam Oh, yes.

23:22 Lee Absolutely loved it.

23:23 Lee It was the the thing that made me laugh more than anything was I remember Chris saying on the episode.

23:31 Chris It was as it was sold.

23:33 Lee It well, it was, but on the episode, you said it'd be perfect with Evil Dead and Cabin in the Woods.

23:41 Lee And the remake isn't like a shot for shot remake, it has a lot of the same elements in kills, but it's got a supernatural element, which mimics Evil Dead and Cabin in the Woods.

23:54 Chris

23:56 Lee Oh.

23:57 Adam Oh, okay.

23:57 Lee So I'm sold then.

23:59 Lee Yeah, no, it's absolutely, I can tell you because it's in the first five minutes of the film.

24:02 Lee They buy the cabin and get there and basically, it was owned by a missionary who was out there, who managed to restrain Baphomet and has it trapped in the basement, and Baphomet can return to Earth after five people are killed.

24:19 Lee With the same sort of marks on the ground that filled with blood as they have it.

24:24 Lee

24:25 Lee Yeah.

24:26 Lee And it it just it it takes a really good film and puts all those extra elements in.

24:31 Lee And make something equally as good, totally different, but with that same, their relationship is very similar.

24:38 Lee

24:39 Lee And I say the kills and stuff are pretty much the same.

24:42 Lee But yeah, they're it's all because it's being manipulated by a supernatural force rather than it just being a series of unfortunate events.

24:50 Lee

24:51 Lee But yeah, it's it's absolute, absolutely brilliant.

24:54 Lee I loved every minute of it.

24:56 Adam Oh.

24:57 Lee

24:57 Lee Adam.

24:58 Lee What have you been watching?

25:00 Adam I I nearly forgot to mention this.

25:03 Adam

25:03 Adam And then I remembered, oh.

25:04 Adam This was kind of the thing I specifically watched just in case for we've been watching.

25:09 Adam To make sure I had something properly like horror or whatever, you know.

25:14 Adam so.

25:15 Adam And I've been meaning to give it a go anyway.

25:17 Adam So I watched Hellboy the Crooked Man.

25:20 Lee Oh.

25:20 Lee The one that came out about three years ago?

25:23 Adam No.

25:24 Adam That was the that was the sort of reboot that oh, the guy who direct Neil Marshall, the guy who directed the Descent.

25:33 Lee Yes.

25:34 Adam Dog Soldiers.

25:35 Adam Yeah, he did one.

25:38 Adam I'm still not seeing that.

25:40 Adam but this came out 2024.

25:43 Chris Oh.

25:44 Lee Okay, cool.

25:46 Adam And

25:48 Adam Yeah.

25:49 Adam And I've seen a lot of sort of people slating it, I've seen a lot of people defending it.

25:55 Adam Everyone's very much sort of like, both sides are sort of talking about the fact that, oh, well, you got to make allowances for a low budget.

26:02 Adam And it's like, yeah, it clearly is lower budget, certainly than the Gilmerro del Toro ones.

26:10 Chris

26:11 Adam But if anything, it's made me wish there was a Hellboy TV series.

26:18 Chris

26:19 Adam Because this just feels and which is oddly true to Hellboy.

26:23 Adam Because the comic does have a story arc and it has sort of.

26:30 Adam You learn about Hellboy learns about himself.

26:36 Adam But.

26:38 Chris Can I stop you briefly? I'd like to learn a bit about Hellboy.

26:42 Chris Because all I know is he looks a bit like a demon.

26:46 Adam Yes, oh, so you've not seen the Hellboy film.

26:47 Chris I haven't seen any, no.

26:49 Adam Okay, well, I think Hellboy with I mean the so the two Guillermo del Toro films I'd definitely watch and I'd definitely do on the show at some point.

26:59 Chris I seem to remember one, I didn't know there was two, but it was quite big.

27:02 Chris When it was released.

27:07 Lee Yeah, it was.

27:11 Adam But but yeah, so basically Hellboy started as a comic by Mike Mignola.

27:16 Adam And.

27:17 Adam And it's a got a real sort of noir sort of aesthetic to it, like when you see the like the.

27:26 Chris Okay, yeah.

27:28 Adam Illustrations there, it's got his very sort of distinct look.

27:34 Adam And

27:36 Chris And so is Hellboy good, bad or chaotic neutral?

27:39 Adam So I suppose

27:41 Adam No, he's good.

27:42 Chris Is he?

27:43 Chris Okay.

27:43 Chris So what is.

27:44 Chris What is his.

27:44 Chris What's his purpose?

27:46 Chris He he comes from hell.

27:47 Adam Oh.

27:48 Chris Or.

27:48 Adam Well, that's that sort of does bear into what happened.

27:52 Adam But basically he is found as a baby demon and is looked after by a professor who is played by John Hurt in the Guillermo del Toro films.

28:03 Adam So I feel I could do it in his voice to continue.

28:05 Adam And I raised Hellboy from that tiny imp.

28:09 Adam And basically he runs a place called the Bureau for Paranormal Research and Development.

28:15 Chris Okay.

28:16 Adam I think that's it.

28:17 Adam Yeah.

28:18 Adam And yeah, that they basically investigate, that is the X-Files, so they investigate that sort of but although it's a group like an agency, one of their agents happens to be this Hellspawn.

28:31 Adam Who.

28:32 Adam Obviously has an affinity for the supernatural because he is supernatural.

28:38 Chris Yeah.

28:39 Adam but but the so the comics would sort of like have.

28:43 Adam Like it had origin and sort of explained itself, but then the comic did what comics do of it.

28:49 Adam It just would you had an issue or a couple of issues of just a storyline.

28:56 Adam And basically, the reason there should be a Hellboy TV series is because it's the classic.

29:03 Adam Like Hellboy turns up in a town, meets someone who's got a supernatural problem and it gets solved.

29:10 Chris Oh.

29:11 Chris Okay.

29:12 Adam So it's like, you know, he's it's like the sort of X-Files agent.

29:18 Chris Is it, yeah.

29:19 Adam Do you know what I mean?

29:22 Adam It doesn't need, it doesn't need like a big fucking over-arching plot and this this is what this feels like.

29:30 Adam Like this is because it is based on one of the comics, I think it's like three issues or something called The Crooked Man.

29:36 Adam And.

29:38 Adam It's yeah, so a lot a lot of it is pretty much close to that.

29:42 Adam But that is one of those sort of Hellboy where it's just, oh, this is the current story, not some sort of like, you know, it's not a sort of.

29:49 Adam Progression or a character arc or anything like that, you know.

29:53 Adam And

29:55 Adam Yeah, and I think this was just rather fucking well done.

30:01 Adam And.

30:01 Adam It was so I didn't I didn't know anyone.

30:04 Adam In it, oh, apart from Joseph Marcel turns up.

30:07 Adam Who was Jeffrey, the butler in The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.

30:13 Adam And he's in Remembrance of the Daleks.

30:15 Adam Which matters to me.

30:16 Adam And

30:18 Adam but the guy playing Hellboy is a guy called Jack Casey who's apparently apparently was in The Strain, the del Toro Vampire series.

30:27 Adam And.

30:28 Adam He's in Deadpool 2.

30:30 Chris Okay.

30:31 Adam which I'm still not seeing.

30:33 Adam But he's Black Tom in.

30:34 Adam Deadpool 2.

30:36 Lee What, you haven't seen Deadpool 2 yet?

30:38 Adam No.

30:39 Lee Oh, dude.

30:40 Lee You're missing out.

30:41 Adam I know.

30:41 Adam I know.

30:41 Adam I'm behind.

30:42 Chris That's that's another one of the franchises.

30:45 Chris That's there was one, another one we mentioned the other day.

30:47 Adam Oh, I'm just not up to date on anything, mate.

30:49 Chris No, you're on Hellboy.

30:50 Adam You know.

30:51 Adam Except for Hellboy, which everyone else seems to be sort of, but yeah, and it was just

30:57 Adam Yeah, it was kind of like, it just felt like it was.

31:00 Adam Maybe like it was the Christmas special from a couple of years back because it was longer.

31:05 Adam Do you know what I mean?

31:06 Adam Like you know like when you'd get like the adventures of Sherlock Holmes and then they'd do, they'd do and the Basks or sign of the four at Christmas.

31:12 Adam So they'd have a longer.

31:13 Adam Like movie version of it.

31:14 Adam And that's what this felt like.

31:15 Adam And it.

31:16 Adam Yeah, everyone's fucking great in it. I think it really it really feels like reading the comic Hellboy.

31:21 Adam More so than anything else because it does have that sort of, it's not a it's not blankness.

31:26 Adam But it's like, no, this is just an adventure that's happening.

31:29 Adam Do you know what I mean?

31:33 Adam Not everything has to lead to profundity or anything like that.

31:37 Adam You know, it's just it's story of the week, monster of the week.

31:40 Chris Yeah.

31:40 Adam With a monster.

31:42 Adam So.

31:43 Adam Yeah.

31:44 Adam but and no.

31:45 Adam I just thought and but the.

31:47 Adam And it was directed by Brian Taylor, who did The Crank films, which I should not like.

31:52 Chris Oh.

31:53 Adam Those films.

31:55 Adam I fucking think they're brilliant.

31:56 Adam They're just both of them are fucking mental.

31:59 Adam Which.

32:00 Chris I've only seen the first one, but I didn't like it way more than I thought I should as well.

32:05 Adam Yeah, yeah, and and pretty much you get exactly the same with the second one.

32:09 Adam Like I I can't believe that Jason Statham has hoodwinked me.

32:13 Adam Into enjoying one of his films.

32:14 Adam The cheeky bastard.

32:15 Adam You know.

32:16 Adam It's sort of.

32:17 Adam Yeah.

32:18 Adam It's yeah, anyway, but it so and the other film he did was Mom and Dad.

32:23 Adam The Nicholas Cage film.

32:25 Lee Oh, that.

32:26 Lee Great.

32:27 Chris All right.

32:28 Adam But but that's the thing.

32:29 Adam Is this doesn't feel like that at all.

32:32 Adam It's very it's quite.

32:33 Adam The other thing that it sort of sits with the the like the comics are quite stark and they're quite sort of almost expressionistic in places and stuff like that.

32:43 Adam And this is this is very moody.

32:45 Adam And it has action sequences.

32:48 Adam And I've seen a lot of people, I'll get it over with now, a lot of people have said that the spider at the start is shit.

32:52 Adam Yeah, the spider at the start is shit.

32:53 Adam But the spider in anything that CG is shit.

32:55 Chris Yeah.

32:56 Adam Yeah.

32:57 Adam They're all it's always shit, so, you know, they could why blow their fucking money?

33:00 Adam And it it fulfills its function.

33:03 Adam But and it's over with at the start, basically.

33:05 Adam That's just.

33:06 Adam And then the rest of it is kind of a lot more eerie and a lot more sort of, but and you get the lovely thing of because that's the best bit about Hellboy.

33:11 Adam It's probably I've missed the whole point when I'm explaining to you the draw of the character, is Hellboy really doesn't give a fuck.

33:19 Adam He finds it all annoying and sort of just, oh, for fuck's sake, this happened.

33:25 Chris I think I think that's that's me like every day really, with a lot of things that I I think I'd quite like the sound of this.

33:29 Adam He treats the supernatural like plumbing.

33:32 Chris

33:33 Adam Do you know what I mean?

33:38 Adam Yes, it is a pain in the arse.

33:39 Adam Yes, it is a disaster.

33:41 Adam And yes, we are going to have to do something about it.

33:42 Adam But for fuck's sake.

33:43 Adam You know.

33:44 Adam So, yeah, I think it's sort of like I think the yeah, like I say, this Jack Casey is I think he does really well as Hellboy.

33:53 Adam And like I say, I'm just like pissed off that this isn't, oh, I caught that and I can now go back and watch the first series.

33:57 Adam And then slowly become disappointed by series four or you know, whatever.

34:02 Lee Excellent.

34:03 Lee I'll have to check it out.

34:04 Lee I didn't realize there was another one.

34:06 Lee I say, the one that came out a couple of years ago, I tried.

34:09 Lee I loved the first two films, so I was really excited when they were going to reboot it.

34:13 Lee And then I don't I think I got about half an hour in and was like, this is awful.

34:17 Adam Yeah.

34:17 Lee

34:18 Lee It was fantastic cost, but it just didn't gel at all.

34:19 Lee So.

34:20 Adam Yeah.

34:21 Adam Whereas I think.

34:22 Adam That and that's the thing that because I haven't.

34:24 Adam I haven't seen that.

34:26 Adam but this so Crooked Man is nothing to do with that either.

34:31 Adam It's do you know what I mean?

34:33 Adam This is this is essentially reboot 2.

34:35 Adam Yeah.

34:36 Adam and I would as I say.

34:38 Adam I think, yeah, just yeah, make some more.

34:42 Adam This is.

34:43 Adam Just make episodes.

34:45 Adam I like films as episodes in this, you know.

34:47 Lee Excellent. I'll definitely have to be checking that out.

34:49 Lee

34:50 Lee Chris, what did you watch next?

34:52 Chris Yeah, so for this one.

34:54 Chris As I was looking through the titles of slightly unusual esoteric horror films.

35:01 Chris I saw Slumber Party Massacre.

35:03 Chris And I thought that sounds terrible, I don't want to watch that at all.

35:06 Chris And but of course it it triggered a little, yeah, but there was Dude Bro Party Massacre 3.

35:10 Chris

35:12 Chris And I thought, well, let me just read.

35:13 Chris Just read a little bit about it, so I saw it.

35:18 Chris I saw because.

35:19 Chris I normally don't like to read too much or know too much.

35:23 Chris Although I do like to know if they're comedies.

35:24 Chris But.

35:25 Chris And it turns out, in fact, for this one, that was both useful and bad, but anyway, all right.

35:32 Chris So have either of you heard of this?

35:34 Lee Yes.

35:36 Adam I've heard of it, I haven't seen it.

35:37 Chris Aha, all right, well, so 1982.

35:39 Chris Year of the spectrum for any nerds listening, that's just that's how that is in my head.

35:44 Chris

35:44 Chris Directed by Amy Holden Jones, don't know.

35:47 Chris Written by, and this was the bit I thought, what, feminist author Rita Mae Brown.

35:52 Chris And I thought, there's a film called Slumber Party Massacre.

35:55 Chris It's a slasher film and it's written by a feminist author.

35:59 Chris That's very confusing.

36:02 Chris So I thought, I'm going to have to give this one a go.

36:04 Chris Yeah.

36:06 Chris Turned out it was written as a parody, however, the studio filmed it as a straight film.

36:11 Adam Yeah, didn't get it.

36:12 Chris No.

36:12 Lee No.

36:13 Chris But what's interesting is that doesn't seem to have ruined it and you still are able to see everything that the author was getting across.

36:22 Chris And I would say, and I did read a little bit about it.

36:26 Chris I think it did achieve it in my mind, so it turned out another one.

36:31 Chris Another social commentary film, which horror seems to do so well and we seem to cover a lot of.

36:36 Chris

36:38 Chris Similar to Troll Hunter in that sort of sense.

36:41 Chris Or ruining the world.

36:42 Chris But yeah, so you know.

36:43 Chris The fact that how do you turn a slasher and a very like in the sense it's not trying to be too clever.

36:48 Chris It's not trying to do anything too weird horror style.

36:52 Chris It is a very straight forward slasher.

36:54 Chris

36:55 Chris How do you present everything that you get in a typical slasher, such as Friday 13th?

37:01 Chris All of the elements and still make it so that you're like.

37:04 Chris Yeah, that's not actually misogynistic in its presentation.

37:07 Chris

37:08 Chris So yeah, I think I think she pretty much managed it.

37:10 Chris

37:11 Chris And it was it was definitely better than I expected.

37:16 Chris

37:17 Chris It does have funny bits, maybe not because the way it's shot, not as obvious as it could have been.

37:22 Chris

37:23 Chris But yeah, you still get lots of women getting naked at points as you'd expect.

37:27 Chris That's not the reason I watched it.

37:29 Chris But.

37:30 Chris Yeah.

37:31 Chris you get a male killer with a very phallic looking weapon.

37:33 Chris

37:34 Chris But yeah, there there's a few nice bits in it.

37:36 Chris So.

37:37 Chris It it did progress well and even to the end, I thought, okay, yeah, this this is all right.

37:42 Chris This is keeping my attention and

37:45 Chris That was fun.

37:45 Adam I was surprised you.

37:47 Chris Yeah.

37:47 Chris Because like so we we haven't watched a massive amount of slasher.

37:50 Chris You know, I know we've all said it's not the one, it's not the category that we would tend to go for.

37:55 Chris But it is interesting that there have been people, I mean like the Tucker and Dale.

38:02 Chris You know.

38:03 Chris Like there's been quite a few where they have managed to do a twist that makes a slasher type film far more interesting.

38:09 Chris So I was kind of fascinated to see one that doesn't try to twist it too much.

38:11 Chris Still achieve something like this.

38:15 Adam Yeah.

38:16 Adam Still at the sort of same.

38:17 Adam You're still at the period where it is enough to do a slasher film straight.

38:21 Chris Yeah.

38:21 Lee Well.

38:22 Chris So.

38:22 Adam You know, that's all you need is someone goes around and kills a lot of people.

38:28 Chris Yeah.

38:28 Adam You know, it hasn't got, it hasn't because 82 you sort of hasn't got to the sort of more inventive phases.

38:32 Chris I mean, I think that that is still pretty early.

38:33 Chris Is it?

38:34 Chris Yeah.

38:34 Adam Yeah.

38:35 Lee I think that's why we don't cover so many slashers.

38:38 Lee Not because we don't because we particularly dislike them.

38:41 Lee But because they don't leave a lot to talk about, it is just about seeing the kills.

38:44 Lee The majority of the time.

38:46 Chris Yeah, right.

38:47 Chris Right.

38:48 Lee So.

38:48 Lee

38:51 Chris It feels like that's fun for the first few times of that sort of film.

38:53 Chris And then you're like, yeah, you know, I've seen it.

38:56 Lee Any.

38:57 Lee And again, they're they're good to see because of the inventive kills.

38:59 Lee But they're not as exciting to talk about, which is why we don't generally bring them up quite so often, I think.

39:06 Chris Yeah.

39:06 Chris You don't really get a deep satisfaction afterwards.

39:09 Chris Even if it was kind of fun, you know.

39:11 Chris And and some of them could be in the background, you know, maybe that's fine.

39:15 Chris But yeah.

39:16 Chris So.

39:17 Chris

39:19 Chris It would have been interesting to see if it had been shot as a parody and kept to the original idea.

39:24 Lee I believe the sequels do more.

39:27 Chris Oh, that's interesting.

39:28 Chris So I did notice there were sequels, so yeah, okay, well I'd be quite happy to check them out then.

39:31 Adam Continue the voyage, sir.

39:32 Adam Let us know.

39:33 Chris Yeah.

39:34 Chris Yeah.

39:35 Adam Explore.

39:36 Adam I'm.

39:39 Lee Yeah.

39:40 Lee Well done.

39:41 Lee my next movie, I'm not sure if it's one Adam has seen or not.

39:44 Lee I'd never heard of it.

39:45 Lee Somebody posted some images on Instagram.

39:51 Adam It was a filthy lie, whatever those images were.

39:54 Lee And I saw them and immediately went, why have I never seen this film?

39:59 Lee

40:00 Lee It's very strange, it's a film called V Viy.

40:04 Adam Yes.

40:05 Lee It's made in the Soviet Union in 1967.

40:10 Lee

40:12 Lee And I thought it's one of those, I looked at the images and I was like, it's one of those too good to be true, it looks too cool.

40:20 Lee The film isn't going to be anything like that.

40:22 Lee And I couldn't have been more wrong, it was absolutely dynamite.

40:25 Lee The score is a little strange on it in places.

40:27 Lee But.

40:29 Lee Oh, it was outstanding, so the story, very quickly.

40:33 Lee a group of young men who are to become monks, basically get a summer holiday and go on a rampage.

40:45 Lee And end up sleeping in the barn of an old woman who one of them discovers is a witch.

40:52 Lee And he inadvertently injures her and she dies.

40:55 Lee but it turns out that she isn't the old crone that he's seen, but in fact it's a young lady and he is called by the village to be the, basically the overseer.

41:05 Lee So he has to stay with her for three nights from sundown from sundown till sunset.

41:12 Lee In order to.

41:14 Lee basically make sure that she makes it to heaven, but what actually happens is every night things get worse and worse and the supernatural occurrences get more and more out of hand.

41:21 Lee It's.

41:23 Lee It's fairly, it's not a comedy, but it's got a lot of comedy elements to it.

41:29 Adam It's yes, exactly like House of, yes.

41:31 Lee And it's just as bats it as House of as well.

41:34 Adam Oh, right.

41:35 Lee Yeah.

41:35 Lee but yeah, it's it's absolute gem.

41:38 Lee I don't know why I've never stumbled across this before.

41:41 Lee

41:41 Lee It's really good, so it so it is obviously in Russian, I believe, is the language.

41:46 Lee So.

41:47 Lee It is subtitled, but it it's it's just.

41:49 Lee It's a really good, really creepy, it goes a bit bat shit in the last three minutes.

41:56 Lee But the film prepares you for the fact that it's going to go nuts and you have to be ready to ride it, a bit like House of again.

42:04 Lee yeah, it's it's really good fun.

42:05 Lee It's a really well put together film.

42:07 Lee It's a really well-paced film.

42:09 Lee As it's only an hour and 15 or what, but it it feels it feels like it's as long as it needs to be.

42:14 Lee You know, it doesn't doesn't feel like you don't get enough character development, but at the same time, it doesn't feel like they've tried to stretch it out and it should be a 40-minute, you know, 45-minute movie or whatever.

42:25 Lee yeah, it's it's just absolutely brilliant, so I can't wait to see what they do next.

42:29 Lee Because.

42:31 Lee Yeah.

42:32 Lee Really, really good.

42:33 Lee So I heartily recommend everyone.

42:35 Lee Go and check out, it's it's available for free online and.

42:38 Lee Yeah.

42:39 Lee It's absolutely brilliant.

42:40 Lee Really, really good.

42:42 Lee

42:42 Lee Chris.

42:43 Lee You are up next, I believe.

42:45 Chris Yep.

42:46 Chris So this one I have mentioned before, I don't remember what either of you said about it.

42:52 Chris this is probably my favorite overall.

42:53 Chris Didn't necessarily expect to like it as much as I did.

42:55 Chris Didn't know a lot about it except what the reason I had mentioned it previously.

42:59 Chris Was it was on like the top 100 horror scenes from horror films, I think.

43:05 Chris Something like that.

43:07 Chris And it is called Train to Busan.

43:11 Lee I still haven't seen it.

43:12 Chris You still haven't seen it.

43:13 Chris Right.

43:14 Chris Okay.

43:14 Chris You're right.

43:16 Chris Okay.

43:16 Chris Well.

43:17 Chris So I assume you, Lee, haven't rushed to watch it because it's zombie.

43:23 Lee I think it I think it came out at the tail end at the point where I'd got so sick of zombies.

43:29 Lee Despite the fact it came out and everyone went, this is the best zombie film that's come out since 2008 later.

43:36 Lee I was already picked out with them even more than usual.

43:37 Lee So I just couldn't.

43:38 Chris Well, so that is it.

43:39 Chris So they use so the zombies in it are the 28 Day Later.

43:43 Chris Speedy type zombie, rather than the Romero, yeah, shambling ones.

43:52 Chris but yeah, so I didn't realize it was as recent as it was.

43:54 Chris I didn't pick that up when I'd heard of it previously.

43:55 Chris 2016, which as you just mentioned.

43:59 Chris

44:00 Chris Yeah, and again, it's got quite a social commentary, political, corporate.

44:06 Chris

44:07 Chris But what I do like, it's essentially it's core themes.

44:09 Chris Humanity versus selfishness.

44:10 Chris It's got a whole part of, you know, how do you act in these situations?

44:16 Chris Which.

44:17 Chris I think we did say the zombie films have been used for, you know, the whole human dynamic when you're all in this situation together.

44:23 Chris So I but I think it does that very well.

44:24 Chris

44:25 Chris Yeah, it's got some great archetypes in there.

44:26 Chris

44:27 Chris The it is subtitled again, so, you know, I still always wonder how how much can you enjoy a horror action film when you're having to read subtitles?

44:33 Chris Totally not a problem at all, worked really well.

44:35 Chris

44:36 Chris Also it is set on trains, and I thought, can that work very well with zombies?

44:42 Chris You know.

44:43 Chris You're thinking how are they going to explain this and again, the the ways that they did, I was like, okay, yeah, that's pretty good.

44:48 Chris That that works for me.

44:50 Chris

44:51 Chris It is a bit claustrophobic, but not too claustrophobic, it's definitely paced well.

44:56 Chris

44:57 Chris And the scenes change enough.

44:59 Chris So I was like, yeah, no.

45:01 Chris You really are managing to do this in a way that I would not have expected would be that easy.

45:07 Chris

45:08 Chris I liked the actors, I did recognise the main actor from Squid Game.

45:13 Adam Oh, okay.

45:14 Chris Yeah.

45:14 Adam

45:15 Chris I can't remember who he was in.

45:17 Chris He was in.

45:17 Adam I'm still not seeing.

45:18 Chris season 2 of Squid Game, if I remember if he was in it or not.

45:24 Chris Okay.

45:25 Chris Well.

45:25 Chris So.

45:25 Chris Yeah.

45:26 Chris You know, I mean, he he is very effective, I would say.

45:28 Chris Getting across the emotion and his his selfishness.

45:32 Chris So.

45:33 Chris

45:34 Chris Yeah, and then what I was looking forward to mostly, until I realized actually this is a really good film, was the scene where it's like so many zombies on screen at once.

45:41 Chris All running like crazy, and and again, it works.

45:46 Chris It's it's a great scene.

45:47 Chris It is quite a unique, yeah, you know, because it's that is it could just going to get too ridiculous.

45:53 Chris Right.

45:54 Chris But you know, great when someone manages to to deal with that.

45:55 Chris And.

45:57 Chris Yeah.

45:57 Chris So for me, it is now.

45:59 Chris It's definitely a zombie film, I'd watch again.

46:00 Chris It's definitely film, I'd watch again.

46:02 Chris and it's got some unique aspects that definitely make it stand out.

46:07 Chris So.

46:07 Chris Yeah.

46:08 Chris I'd absolutely.

46:09 Chris I'd definitely recommend this.

46:11 Chris Yeah.

46:12 Adam So maybe I do.

46:13 Adam Maybe I do need to check it out.

46:13 Adam Because I mean, this is I'm the same as you, Lee, I think I'd just got so tired of zombies.

46:16 Adam But when it came out, even though I heard so many people going, this is fucking great.

46:19 Adam Yeah.

46:20 Adam I was like, I just can't.

46:22 Lee Everybody was on side for it.

46:23 Lee Everybody was talking about this when it came out.

46:26 Lee But yeah, as you say, I was just like, no, no, nothing could bring me back to zombies.

46:31 Lee They they are one of my least favorite and I have been burnt out with them even more than usual.

46:35 Lee So I just couldn't.

46:36 Chris It definitely doesn't, you know, like it is a zombie film, but really does have enough of the elements.

46:40 Chris Where it's like.

46:41 Chris No, I'm enjoying this as a film whether there's zombies in it or not.

46:44 Chris Really.

46:45 Adam That's the best thing where zombies are incidental almost, you know.

46:48 Chris Really.

46:49 Chris So.

46:50 Chris Yeah.

46:51 Chris I would.

46:51 Chris Absolutely.

46:52 Chris I'd definitely recommend this.

46:53 Chris It's.

46:55 Lee Good.

46:56 Lee I'm glad you have because I think Adam and I have just added it to our watch lists.

46:59 Lee so for my next movie, or final movie, should I say?

47:02 Lee I watched a film from last year, an independent movie called The Book of the Witch.

47:07 Adam

47:09 Lee so there's nobody in it, you'll know.

47:12 Lee It's a story of a young lady who is.

47:14 Lee She's a security guard by night, and she's so terrified of the idea of death.

47:22 Lee That she's basically heard of a legend of a witch who survived since the Salem witch trials by reading a spell from her book and drawing the life out of young men.

47:31 Lee

47:33 Lee And basically lives off of that, and she decides that she's going to find this witch and steal her book so that she never dies.

47:39 Lee

47:41 Lee And it's one of those, somebody I follow on Instagram, who does a lot of indie stuff, put it up and said, I've just watched this, I've really enjoyed it.

47:48 Lee So I was like, eh, I'll have a look.

47:49 Lee Managed to find it for free online legally.

47:51 Lee Watched it.

47:52 Lee It's amazing.

47:53 Lee It was really, really good.

47:55 Lee It's one of those fantastic jobs where they've taken they've taken a great story, they've allowed it to play out in its own time.

48:03 Lee It's only an hour and 13 minutes long.

48:04 Lee But it's exactly as long as it needs to be.

48:05 Chris Yeah.

48:06 Lee

48:07 Lee But the.

48:08 Lee despite the budgetary constraints.

48:12 Lee

48:14 Lee

48:15 Lee the budget tree constraint.

48:18 Chris As as we are experiencing now.

48:21 Lee Yeah, yes.

48:22 Lee So.

48:23 Lee They managed to, they don't overstretch themselves with the effects and things and with the.

48:26 Lee The locations and stuff.

48:27 Lee So despite the fact it's very low budget, they make it look amazing and nothing looks shonky because they don't try anything that they can't they can't they can't do.

48:33 Chris Yeah, that's good.

48:34 Lee But it doesn't feel like.

48:35 Lee It doesn't feel like the story's been reined in in order to allow for the budget.

48:38 Lee It just it's yeah, it was an excellent film.

48:40 Lee It was one of those.

48:42 Lee It was on a whim.

48:44 Lee I had a night with nothing on.

48:45 Lee And I thought it's online for free, it's an independent movie, I'll give it a go.

48:49 Lee Yeah, and it's just absolutely amazed by.

48:51 Lee So it's Joshua Sudan is the name.

48:54 Lee I'm saying that correctly, Sudan or Sodan.

48:56 Lee

48:58 Lee But yeah, I I don't know what else they have done, but I will definitely be looking out.

49:02 Lee In fact, I mean, I could just click on the IMDB.

49:03 Lee I mean, it's a look.

49:06 Lee

49:06 Lee Yeah, so they have done a few other films.

49:08 Lee mainly as a director, oh, a director and writer.

49:10 Lee But yeah, I will be working through that back catalog to see if there's any more horror in there.

49:14 Lee Because.

49:15 Lee Yeah, I was really surprised with this.

49:18 Lee It's yeah, it's really good fun.

49:19 Lee It's a really well put together film.

49:22 Lee It's a really well-paced film.

49:23 Lee As it's only an hour and 15 or what, but it it feels it feels like it's as long as it needs to be.

49:27 Lee You know, it doesn't doesn't feel like you don't get enough character development, but at the same time, it doesn't feel like they've tried to stretch it out and it should be a 14-minute, you know, 45-minute movie or whatever.

49:35 Lee

49:36 Lee Yeah, it's it's just absolutely brilliant.

49:39 Lee So I can't wait to see what they do next.

49:41 Lee Because.

49:42 Lee Yeah, really, really good.

49:45 Lee So I heartily recommend everyone go and check it out.

49:47 Lee It's it's available for free online and.

49:50 Lee Yeah.

49:51 Lee It's.

49:52 Lee Absolutely brilliant.

49:53 Lee Really, really good.

49:55 Lee so we should probably wrap it up there.

49:56 Lee So, honorable mentions, has anyone got any honorable mentions they'd like to drop in quickly?

50:01 Adam Well.

50:01 Adam I've I've got one, but I'll also drop in Joe Watson's been in touch.

50:04 Adam Hi, Joe.

50:05 Lee Hey.

50:06 Adam Hey, Joe.

50:07 Adam Thank you for your continued support, especially if you've made it this far into the show.

50:12 Adam

50:13 Adam yes.

50:14 Adam And he's been he's been recommending a few, I was hoping that I might actually fit one in to sort of before the show, before we recorded.

50:20 Adam

50:21 Adam But just didn't get the chance.

50:22 Adam But he's

50:24 Adam He's recommended, Ready or Not.

50:28 Lee Yes, I've seen it.

50:30 Lee It's great.

50:31 Adam Oh, nice.

50:31 Adam Okay.

50:32 Lee I double checked, I could be wrong.

50:34 Adam Shit.

50:36 Adam he also recommended the Varium, which I know Bobby from not for everyone has.

50:40 Adam Also, I'm sure has told me to watch that, so that's definitely going higher up the list.

50:45 Adam Joe said it left him feeling disjointed.

50:46 Adam Which.

50:47 Adam I that that is you know, that's that's me sold.

50:49 Adam You know, he also recommend, Oddity.

50:51 Adam I think I think a lot I think I think a lot of these are on Shudder actually, so that's.

50:53 Adam That's why.

50:55 Adam but yes, he recommended Oddity.

50:57 Adam And just just the other day he recommended the Rule of Jenny Pen, which is a film I've sort of had my eye on anyway.

51:04 Adam That's with John Lithgow and Jeffrey Rush.

51:08 Lee Oh, nice.

51:09 Adam Oh, nice.

51:10 Adam That's quite.

51:12 Adam Yeah.

51:13 Adam And basically.

51:14 Adam Jeffrey Rush is a judge who has a stroke and ends up in an old folks home and John Lithgow is one of the other patients who after dark just runs a fucking brutal regime of humiliation and weirdness and yeah.

51:24 Lee Interesting.

51:25 Adam So yeah.

51:26 Adam which.

51:26 Adam Joe also said.

51:28 Adam but if you have got any parents in an old folks home at the moment, you might want to give her.

51:34 Lee Yes, I've just checked.

51:35 Lee Ready or Not, yes, I have watched it, it was fucking brilliant.

51:38 Lee Absolutely loved that.

51:41 Adam Oh, fantastic.

51:42 Adam my and my honorable mention is a weird one.

51:44 Adam It's more just to say it's been it's been just over a year since we lost our good friend Westley.

51:50 Adam Yeah.

51:51 Adam

51:52 Adam And I watched because if if we'd have continued doing Mos Eisley Happy Hour.

51:58 Adam What I what my thought was is, we'll go off and just do films that start were rip rip offs of Star Wars.

52:05 Adam And.

52:06 Adam Films that Star Wars was influenced by.

52:09 Adam So you do like you do like Hidden Fortress one week.

52:11 Adam And then do Flash Golden the next week.

52:13 Lee Oh, Hidden Fortress.

52:14 Adam Yeah.

52:16 Adam And.

52:17 Adam

52:18 Adam And yeah.

52:18 Adam One of the films that I always thought would be.

52:20 Adam Would be Battle Beyond the Stars.

52:23 Adam And I don't know if anyone remembers it, it's 1980, but this is one of a a huge long list of things that I thought were all one thing as a kid.

52:28 Adam So it's like.

52:29 Adam This, Flash Gordon, Battlestar Galactica, just loads of stuff all rammed in my but Buck Rogers, it's all in there somehow.

52:34 Adam

52:35 Adam You know, it was as I got older, I was like, oh, I can distinguish what the difference is.

52:38 Adam But Battle Beyond the Stars.

52:39 Adam Yeah, just watching it the other day and it was like, do you know what?

52:44 Adam This ain't off bad.

52:46 Adam You know.

52:47 Adam It's the James Cameron's doing the effects, so they're not too bad.

52:51 Adam You know.

52:51 Adam Not too bad.

52:53 Adam James Cameron's doing the effects.

52:54 Adam So they are, okay, they're not up to industrial light and magic, but they're pretty damn fucking good.

52:58 Adam It's so clearly a rip off of Star Wars.

53:00 Adam But it's also so clearly a rip off of the Magnificent Seven.

53:04 Lee Oh.

53:05 Adam Which which was a rip off of Seven Samurai, so it's sort of it's lovely that it's it's come kind of feels like it's come from the same space as Star Wars.

53:12 Adam You know.

53:13 Adam And you know, it's sort of like, oh, it's Samurai films via Westerns.

53:16 Adam You know.

53:18 Adam It's sort of and but yeah.

53:20 Adam And you got Robert Vaughn and George Peppard, Sybil Danning and John Saxon.

53:22 Adam John Saxon as the villain, the sort of.

53:25 Adam But yeah, and it's just one of those things that I watched and there are a few quite disturbing sequences in it.

53:29 Adam Or disturbing enough when I was like watching it when I was like seven or whatever.

53:33 Adam Like.

53:34 Adam Actually, you know, that's that's just not on.

53:38 Adam Won't show that to my son, that's the image that's going to stay in the child's mind for a whole week.

53:42 Adam

53:43 Adam Yeah, and it's just sort of like, there's a there's a weird little grimness to it.

53:47 Adam That I quite like.

53:47 Adam And yeah, just.

53:49 Adam So if you've got fuckle better.

53:50 Adam And James Horner does the music, and so it's very much sort of, yeah, it's.

53:55 Adam Like, you know, it's a dry run for when he does Star Trek and stuff like that.

53:57 Adam So it's like.

53:59 Adam yeah.

54:01 Adam So watch Battle Beyond the Stars.

54:03 Adam Good evening.

54:04 Lee Sounds good.

54:05 Adam Good evening.

54:06 Lee

54:06 Lee So we should probably wrap it up there.

54:07 Lee So, honorable mentions, has anyone got any honorable mentions they'd like to drop in quickly?

54:12 Adam Well, I've got one, but I'll also drop in.

54:14 Adam Joe Watson's been in touch.

54:17 Adam Hi, Joe.

54:18 Lee Hey.

54:19 Adam Hey, Joe.

54:19 Adam Thank you for your continued support, especially if you've made it this far into the show.

54:25 Adam

54:26 Adam yes.

54:26 Adam And he's been he's been recommending a few, I was hoping that I might actually fit one in to sort of before the show, before we recorded.

54:32 Adam

54:33 Adam But just didn't get the chance.

54:35 Adam But he's

54:36 Adam He's recommended, Ready or Not.

54:41 Lee Yes, I've seen it.

54:42 Lee It's great.

54:43 Adam Oh, nice.

54:44 Adam Okay.

54:44 Lee I double checked, I could be wrong.

54:47 Adam Shit.

54:49 Adam he also recommended the Varium, which I know Bobby from not for everyone has.

54:53 Adam Also, I'm sure has told me to watch that, so that's definitely going higher up the list.

54:57 Adam Joe said it left him feeling disjointed.

55:00 Adam Which.

55:01 Adam I that that is you know, that's that's me sold.

55:03 Adam You know.

55:04 Adam he also recommend Oddity.

55:07 Adam I think I think a lot I think I think a lot of these are on Shudder actually, so that's.

55:11 Adam That's why.

55:12 Adam but yes, he recommended Oddity.

55:14 Adam And just just the other day he recommended the Rule of Jenny Penn.

55:20 Adam Which is a film I've sort of had my eye on anyway, that's with John Lithgow and Jeffrey Rush.

55:25 Lee Oh, nice.

55:26 Adam Oh, nice.

55:27 Adam That's.

55:27 Adam Quite.

55:28 Adam Yeah.

55:29 Adam And basically.

55:30 Adam Jeffrey Rush is a judge who has a stroke and ends up in an old folks home and John Lithgow is one of the other patients who after dark just runs a fucking brutal regime of humiliation and weirdness.

55:39 Adam And yeah.

55:40 Lee Interesting.

55:41 Adam So, yeah.

55:42 Adam

55:43 Adam Yeah.

55:44 Adam I'm sure Joe also said, but if you have got any parents in an old folks home at the moment.

55:48 Adam You might want to care.

55:51 Lee Yes, I've just checked.

55:52 Lee Ready or Not, yes, I have watched it, it was fucking brilliant.

55:55 Lee Absolutely loved that.

55:58 Adam Oh, fantastic.

55:59 Adam my.

56:00 Adam And my honorable mention is a weird one.

56:02 Adam It's more just to say it's been it's been just over a year since we lost our good friend Westley.

56:08 Adam Yeah.

56:08 Adam

56:09 Adam And I watched because if if we'd have continued doing Mos Eisley Happy Hour.

56:14 Adam What I what my thought was is, we'll go off and just do films that start were rip rip offs of Star Wars.

56:21 Adam And.

56:22 Adam Films that Star Wars was influenced by.

56:26 Adam So you do like you do like Hidden Fortress one week.

56:28 Adam And then do Flash Golden the next week.

56:30 Lee Oh, Hidden Fortress.

56:31 Adam Yeah.

56:33 Adam And.

56:34 Adam

56:34 Adam And yeah.

56:35 Adam One of the films that I always thought would be.

56:37 Adam Would be Battle Beyond the Stars.

56:39 Adam And I don't know if anyone remembers it, it's 1980, but this is one of a a huge long list of things that I thought were all one thing as a kid.

56:44 Adam So it's like.

56:45 Adam This, Flash Gordon, Battlestar Galactica, just loads of stuff all rammed in my but Buck Rogers, it's all in there somehow.

56:51 Adam

56:52 Adam You know, it was as I got older, I was like, oh, I can distinguish what the difference is.

56:55 Adam But Battle Beyond the Stars.

56:57 Adam Yeah, just watching it the other day and it was like, do you know what?

57:02 Adam This ain't off bad.

57:03 Adam You know.

57:04 Adam It's the James Cameron's doing the effects, so they're not too bad.

57:08 Adam You know.

57:08 Adam Not too bad.

57:09 Adam James Cameron's doing the effects, so they are, okay, they're not up to Industrial Light and Magic, but they're pretty damn fucking good.

57:18 Adam It's so clearly a rip off of Star Wars.

57:20 Adam But it's also so clearly a rip off of the Magnificent Seven.

57:24 Lee Oh.

57:25 Adam Which which was a rip off of Seven Samurai, so it's sort of it's lovely that it's it's come kind of feels like it's come from the same space as Star Wars.

57:32 Adam You know.

57:33 Adam And you know, it's sort of like, oh, it's Samurai films via Westerns.

57:37 Adam You know.

57:38 Adam It's sort of and

57:38 Adam But yeah.

57:39 Adam And you got Robert Von and George Peppard, Sybil Danning and John Saxon.

57:42 Adam John Saxon as the villain, the sort of.

57:45 Adam But yeah, and it's just one of those things that I watched and there are a few quite disturbing sequences in it.

57:50 Adam Or disturbing enough when I was like watching it when I was like seven or whatever.

57:54 Adam Like.

57:55 Adam Actually, you know, that's that's just not on.

57:58 Adam Won't show that to my son, that's the image that's going to stay in the child's mind for a whole week.

58:02 Adam

58:03 Adam Yeah, and it's just sort of like, there's a there's a weird little grimness to it.

58:06 Adam That I quite like.

58:07 Adam And yeah, just.

58:09 Adam So if you've got fuckle better.

58:10 Adam And James Horner does the music, and so it's very much sort of, yeah, it's.

58:14 Adam Like, you know, it's a dry run for when he does Star Trek and stuff like that.

58:17 Adam So it's like.

58:19 Adam yeah.

9:35:01 Adam So, watch Better Be on the Stars.

9:35:02 Adam Good evening.

9:35:03 Lee Sounds good. I listened to a podcast recently with Joe Cornish of Attack the Block who we've covered previously.