My Bloody Banjo
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More Troma goodness for you with 2015’s “My Bloody Banjo”. A film in which we learn that a vape just doesn’t cut it next to a real cigarette in basic torture; judiciously applied piano wire can liven up even the most tedious of corporate events; and that if you believe in paper; say it with your balls! The debut feature from Liam Regan, whose latest film “Eating Miss Campbell” is currently wowing horror festivals. Both films are available for pre-order on limited edition Blu Ray at https://refusefilms.bigcartel.com/ Get in quick! Watch (or re-watch) to avoid spoilers, and join us.
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LeeGood evening and welcome to Horror. I'm Lee.
ChrisI'm Chris.
AdamI'm Adam.
LeeHey! And we're here yet again for the second part of trauma month when we are covering 2015's My Bloody Banjo.
Chris
Leeso right off the bat, we'd like to say thank you very much to Liam Reagan for for the chance to see this movie.
ChrisYeah, absolutely.
LeeWe after eating Miss Campbell, we were very excited all of us to to find out that there was a a prequel to it as it were.
Leeso yeah.
LeeIt's yeah, it's very good. And and he got he heard us talking about it on the episode and got in contact, so yeah, and and just just to be clear, Liam Reagan is the writer and director of My Bloody Banjo and Eating Miss Campbell.
ChrisYeah.
LeeNot just a helpful chap who pointed us in direction.
LeeSo yeah, thanks very much for that.
AdamI I'm going to go further and say he's a gentleman.
LeeHe is a gentleman, I would definitely say.
LeeAnd he's very good to follow on Instagram, I've got to say, he puts up loads of like funny stuff, trauma stuff and yeah.
AdamAnd and a lot of Rick and Ade as well, which is beautiful.
LeeWhich obviously makes us hugely happy.
LeeI see you're wearing a bottom T-shirt today, Adam.
AdamYeah, that's purely by accident, but there we go.
Leeso warning as ever, there will be spoilers and there will be swearing.
Leebut we were just discussing whether to do this spoiler-free, so this movie has been released previously, but heavily edited.
Leethe director's.
AdamThe director's cut is available.
Leedirectly.
AdamDirectly.
LeeFrom the website.
LeeSo if you go to Refuse Films.com, you can pre-order a copy of this. There's only a thousand copies, so it's a get out there and get yourself a copy.
AdamRefuse Films.
LeeEating Miss Campbell is also coming out a limited edition of a thousand copies, which I will certainly be gonna gonna be tracking down.
Lee
LeeAnd although we will be telling the story, those of you who listen every week know, we don't go through the the full film blow by blow, so don't feel that if you've not managed to get hold of it yet and you hear us discussing it, we're not going to have spoiled anything because.
LeeWe were saying, these trauma films are very much in the execution, it's about the performances and the over-the-top gore and the the overall fun of it.
LeeSo don't think just because you've heard this, you go, fuck it, I don't need to see that now.
LeeYou do, you really do, trust me.
ChrisYeah, it's all in the experience.
ChrisI'll just I'll just say get in there, get a director's cut, not too hard if you want to keep your banjo intact.
LeeYeah.
ChrisI had no idea that this was a thing. I did not know what a banjo was before seeing this.
LeeI didn't know going in, I was expecting something to do with an instrument.
LeeSo I loved the fact they put it at the beginning.
ChrisYes, I was like, I was like, why are they telling us? Oh, the second one, okay, I've got some idea now.
LeeOh, you'd have known by the end anyway.
LeeSo those like myself naive idiots unaware.
ChrisYes, you would certainly.
LeeThe banjo is the piece of skin which attaches the foreskin to the helmet.
Leeand it plays a large part of this.
LeeDon't laugh at me, Adam, what's it saying the fucking film?
AdamWell, it's because you started you started I thought you were going to go scientific.
ChrisYeah.
LeeAnd helmet.
ChrisBut I think you're right, I think that was the actual.
LeeThat was the description, I thought I'll go with the description.
ChrisThe exact one.
AdamIt is the, yeah.
AdamWhich which probably gives you a fair indication of the the tone of the piece, if nothing else.
AdamI did find out it's called the actual proper term is a frenulum.
Chris
AdamOh.
ChrisOkay. Yeah.
AdamAnd you've got and you've got one not only on your penis, but also it's the bit of skin that attaches your tongue.
Leethat's why I've heard it before, not about that.
AdamSo, yeah, there we go.
Leeso, yes, let's go in our traditional style.
LeeSo, Chris, what did you make of this film?
ChrisSo, we've now watched Miss Campbell, that was my first trauma.
ChrisThen we watched New Class of Newcomb High.
ChrisSo, watching this one, I was sort of I wasn't sure exactly I knew it was connected with Miss Campbell, but I didn't I knew it was older, so I just didn't quite know what to expect.
ChrisThis was almost harder hitting than eating Miss Campbell, I think, there there's something there's something very raw and gritty about it.
ChrisSo it did.
ChrisI say, it grew on me.
ChrisSo it was it was, it felt like a bit much.
AdamI know what you mean.
ChrisTo to begin with and then as it went on, I was getting more and more involved and yeah.
ChrisAnd as the characters developed, I I really started to to sort of.
ChrisIt's like it's it's where you, you know, you start to get used to the character and then you sort of feel for them more and their their arc and their progression and so yeah.
ChrisIt it felt very kind of satisfying at the end and there there is what I was trying to work out is, do I need to be very drunk to fully get appreciate some of the scenes in this because.
ChrisThey're they're they don't hold back, that's that's what I can say.
LeeThat's what I love about independent cinema and and trauma specifically, yeah.
LeeIs that, no, let's not hold back, let's just go full on, bolts to the wall.
LeeAnd yeah, like and this, as you say, this does like right in the first.
LeeWhat, sort of 15 minutes, it goes, well.
LeeEven before that, in the first two minutes, the scene where she empties the condom all over his face.
LeeIt's just hilarious and awesome.
AdamCan I also say that Pelt are a buckle is an extremely fluid man?
LeeYeah.
AdamBecause that is a hell of a load.
LeeI thought that, I was like, oh my God.
LeeIs that a week's worth she's got there?
LeeLike.
ChrisWe both that and and the amount of blood he's got.
AdamThat was the thing.
AdamThe amount of blood that came.
ChrisHe can shoot quite impressively.
AdamI was like, yeah, that's probably.
AdamYeah, that's got to be a trip to A&E.
ChrisYeah.
Leeyeah, it's yeah, it does.
LeeAnd that's what I loved, as you say, is the fact that it doesn't.
LeeLike it kicks straight in this film.
LeeLike you get that, this is what the film is right from the.
ChrisDoes it So if you're prepared for that, but yeah, and and so but the comedy is also kind of gritty.
ChrisAs well, it's like it's a certain type of style of comedy that's not necessarily you're not necessarily laughing out loud as much as you are when we talk about it.
ChrisIt's like, oh, yeah, it's a bit harsh.
ChrisBut and and oh, and and then who's the guy that he gets to he gets him to shoot himself after essentially killing his mom on the phone.
ChrisSo again, there's some really dark kind of bits.
AdamOh, yeah.
ChrisBut yeah, but that's I think as it goes on, it's sort of got more and more entertaining.
ChrisIt's it's well.
ChrisEspecially when when Ronnie turns up really, I guess that's where it it starts to really change and become.
ChrisIt's I guess it's like a horror film of kind of Drop Dead Fred.
AdamWhich apparently was one of the kind of influences on on the character of Ronnie, yeah.
LeeOh, really?
AdamBecause because basically it's based on a short film called Confessions of Peltzer that Liam Regan did as the sort of proof of concept for the film, and Ronnie in that is basically he's Ronald Reagan.
AdamHe's like the former American president and living person, Ronald Reagan.
Adamand
AdamBut there was, do you remember a film called The Tripper?
AdamThat was out.
AdamIt was like, 2006.
AdamAnd basically it was a load of people go out and take a load of mushrooms, but then a guy dressed as Ronald Reagan.
AdamKills them.
LeeI've never.
AdamIt was like a weird slasher movie.
AdamI don't I don't know if it was much cop to be honest.
AdamI don't think I haven't seen it.
AdamBut there was sort of like people, I think when the short came out, people were sort of drawing comparisons between that.
AdamBut in interviews I've read with Mr. Reagan, I haven't met him, I'm going to say Mr. Reagan.
Adam
AdamIt sort of like the character kind of developed outside of that anyway, so it didn't make sense for him to remain as Ronald Reagan.
Adam
AdamAnd actually his inspirations were obviously Freddy Krueger, because you do not create a wise cracking horror monster without being influenced by Freddy Krueger.
ChrisYeah.
AdamIt's just fucking impossible. and but also, interestingly enough, he mentioned Funny Man.
Chrisnice.
AdamWhich which obviously we covered back in episode 20. So going back some time now.
AdamAnd again.
AdamAnd again, this is the level of ass-backwardness that poor Chris's horror education has come in.
AdamIs that we showed him Funny Man on episode 20 and then, you know, we didn't actually get round to trauma films until 156.
ChrisWho's in charge of this vessel? What is going on here?
LeeIt's almost as if we just drink beer and make it up as we go along, isn't it?
Lee
AdamI think there's also a case of it's also like we go, you know what, I haven't seen in ages, let's put it out.
ChrisYeah, it does seem to be a little bit of that occasion.
AdamYeah.
LeeTalking of the character Ronnie, I've got to put my hands up.
LeeAnd say I was so convinced that actor his mouth, his eyes.
LeeAnd his hair and even the prosthetics, I was like.
LeeIf someone told me that was Christian Bale, I would be in no way surprised.
LeeIt looked exactly like Christian Bale.
ChrisYeah.
AdamHe's like Christian Bale's spitting image puppet.
LeeI was going to, I was going to say like the end of a peer sketch of Christian Bale.
AdamOh, but yeah.
AdamI mean.
AdamWell, that the the guy who plays Ronnie, Damien Mortar, is a director in his own right.
AdamHe did a film called Book of the Dead, the Eschertrilogy.
AdamWhich is apparently an anthology zombie film.
LeeOh.
Adamwhich could be worth checking out.
AdamBut also he's the director of photography and the editor of My Bloody Banjo.
LeeWow.
AdamSo.
LeeYeah.
AdamYeah.
AdamNice.
AdamBut again, I think the because I I'm I kind of know what you mean, Chris.
AdamBecause I think when when I watch this, certainly the first 25 minutes, I was kind of like.
AdamIs this, you know, is this funny?
AdamOr is this just a relentless?
ChrisYeah.
ChrisThat's it, I was yeah, I was like, should they have given me a hint on this one, but but it really does start to either you get used to it and it's like, yeah, no, I see see it now.
AdamI I think it's just it's that it again, it's you have to follow that absurdity of trauma.
AdamWhere it's like.
AdamLiterally this, you know, there's so much laid on with a trail.
AdamIt's like literally every person that he interacts with is a fucking asshole.
ChrisYeah.
Adam
AdamAnd it and to be fair, that's the one thing I did find with the film is that there is that one question that will haunt you all the way through.
AdamIt is, why haven't you just left?
LeeYeah.
AdamBecause he's clearly got money.
AdamBecause they're after his money for like when they do the and and so, do you know what I mean?
AdamSo it's not like he's desperately needs to keep the job.
AdamAnd you think, yeah, that's a rather toxic working environment, I don't think I'd sort of stay there necessarily.
ChrisYeah.
Leeyeah, so we should mention so obviously James Hammond Morton and Danny Thompson.
Lee
Leeactually, as as well as Vigo Trego, were in.
AdamVigo Trego, yeah.
LeeWe're in Eating Miss Campbell.
Leeactually.
AdamAs was as was Lawrence Harvey.
LeeYes, yeah.
LeeOh, yes.
LeeYes, you're right.
AdamBecause.
LeeI definitely need to buy it because it's yeah, it's already disappearing from my memory.
Lee
LeeBut yeah, so I saw Trego and Clay Von Carlowitz last week, in fact.
LeeAgain, because I after we did Class of Nukem High, I watched Return to Nukem High, they were both in that.
LeeSo yeah, it took me a little while, I was like, because you know, it's it's ten years old now, I think.
LeeSo they look slightly different and I was like, yeah, they definitely look familiar and then I was like, oh yeah, of course it is, it's them, but yeah.
AdamWell, well, I mean, like, I'll give you.
AdamI'll give you the background on it, Liam Reagan has always been a trauma fan.
AdamHe said from the age of 11, when he got an X-Rental copy of Toxic Avenger 2 from Blockbuster.
AdamApparently his favorite trauma film is Tromio and Juliet.
LeeYeah.
ChrisDid we did we talk about that one?
AdamWe did, I think we briefly mentioned it as along with all the others that we listed, yeah.
AdamOkay.
AdamBecause Romeo and Juliet was kind of like the nineties, was came out in the nineties.
AdamAnd that was kind of like a resurgence of it for trauma because, you know, it people people were.
ChrisOh, was that.
ChrisThat was the one that was co-written with James Gunn, who obviously now is.
AdamYeah.
AdamYeah.
ChrisI think running he's now running the DC universe, isn't he? Like movie universe.
Chris
AdamYeah.
Adamyeah.
AdamBut
AdamAnd so in 2002, Liam Reagan went to a Trauma Convention in the UK.
Adam
AdamDressed as Sergeant Kabuki Man, and he met Lloyd Kaufman, and basically sort of like they sort of stayed in contact.
AdamAnd he sent back like they would sort of email back and forth and stuff like that, and when he heard that Kaufman was making Return to Nukem High.
AdamHe flew himself out to Buffalo to offer to work as a production assistant on the film.
LeeWow.
AdamAnd apparently slept on the floor of a disused funeral home with most of the rest of the cast as well.
AdamSo.
AdamYou, you know, huge sort of trauma, you know, level of luxury, I would say.
Adam
AdamAnd that's where he met Vigo Trigo and Clevon Karlowitz.
AdamOn that film and that's why they're in this.
AdamSo, yeah.
AdamIt does all sort of, yeah.
Adam
AdamAnd apparently he he did he came back for return to Return to Nukem High, and also he's in.
AdamHe's in Shakespeare's Sh*tstorm, but I think he's just like a crowd like in in a crowd character sort of thing.
AdamLike a background character.
Adam
Adam
AdamAnd
AdamBut yeah, it's so that's the sort of.
AdamThat's the pedigree behind it and and obviously Lawrence Harvey is probably the biggest horror name.
AdamKnown here mostly for the human Centipede 2.
Adam
AdamBut also we what was it called, psychopath?
AdamDo you remember we again this he seems to be in a lot of
AdamHorror on seas.
Adamstuff.
AdamBecause he was in I've got it written down, I can't remember it, it's.
AdamEagermaniac.
AdamWhich was, do you remember the one it was about the film director?
LeeYes, that's right.
Adamand she was doing eventually she was doing snuff movies.
AdamBut he was in that and again.
AdamBecause.
AdamThe thing is, obviously Human Centipede 2, like one of the sort of harshest things out there.
Adambut just proves.
ChrisWait, more more than Human Centipede 1?
AdamPretty much.
AdamBecause basically it's because obviously you got Human Centipede 1, excuse me.
AdamAnd.
AdamThen Human Centipede 2, but the story of Human Centipede 2 is that there is a bloke who works in a car park in England who's obsessed with the human Centipede and dreams of making his own human Centipede.
AdamAnd he's played by.
AdamLawrence Harvey, who's Clive Too Long in this.
ChrisYeah, okay.
AdamAnd basically, yeah, he.
Adamthere's.
AdamPeople getting raped with barbed wire, he builds a human Centipede, include and it's but it's kind of a a meta thing whereby it's meant to be that he's been he's seen the film and been influenced by it and he's like a.
AdamAnd so.
AdamBut it's done kind of like black and white seventies gritty sort of looking thing, so it kind of in a weird way is meant to be like the true life thing that was inspired by the movie.
AdamIt's an interesting.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisOkay.
AdamInteresting.
ChrisYeah.
AdamInteresting thing.
ChrisI'm assuming Lee hasn't seen this.
LeeI've not seen either of them.
LeeI mean.
LeeI would.
Leeand they're definitely both on my list, I just haven't ever quite been in.
ChrisThere's always something else that might just.
AdamThe little bit.
AdamBut.
AdamI I think I think the trouble is is that I think it's one of those things where the longer that.
AdamTom Six, the director goes on, the more you feel that it's like.
AdamYeah, you are just trying to shock, aren't you?
LeeYeah.
ChrisYeah.
AdamBecause.
AdamBecause I think you can because I because I remember when we first heard about the human Centipede when we went to Fright Fest, and I was just fucking mortified that we had watched it.
AdamBecause I was looking through the like the prospectus or the the brochure, what's the word you were trying to program that we'd got.
LeeThat's it.
AdamAnd it was like.
AdamHave you seen this? Human Centipede, a man stitches three people together, asked to mouth and like to make them his pet Centipede.
AdamAnd I was like, that sounds fucking amazing. It was all right.
AdamYou know.
AdamAnd but also, if you haven't seen the human Centipede, just watch the human Cent iPad, the South Park episode.
AdamAnd you pretty much get you get all the beats and all the jokes that you will make about watching the film.
Adam
AdamBut yeah, so number two's kind of like, but Tom.
AdamBecause then they did a third one, in which a whole prison is stitched arse to mouth.
Adam
AdamAnd apparently and Lawrence Harvey's in that playing a different character.
Adam
AdamAnd.
Adambut his latest film, which I I still think has not been ba has still not come out.
AdamAnd it's basically a club of middle-aged white women who masturbate over videos of 9/11.
AdamAnd at that point it's like, he's just trying to be a hard mate.
LeeYeah.
LeeAnd that's what I that's what I like about this.
LeeAnd and trauma in general, is it it never it never feels like it's trying too hard.
LeeIt's like.
LeeWe've got these wacky ideas and we're going to make them as over the top as humanly possible.
LeeBut yeah.
LeeIt never feels like they're just trying to shock you for the sake of trying to shock you.
LeeIt's always.
AdamYeah.
AdamIsn't it.
AdamIt's almost like it's a byproduct of it rather than.
AdamAs a sort of the the whole reason for it.
AdamSo.
AdamBut.
LeeAnd and mentioning him and again.
LeeAnd James Hammer Morton and stuff, like the I I just love the performances in this.
LeeIt they were they were that perfect level of over the top, but without becoming annoying, which sometimes characters can do when they when they try too hard.
LeeWith stuff like Die Zombie Bastards and stuff where they try and act wacky and it goes so over the top.
LeeThat it kind of grates on you and it's quite difficult to get into, whereas this, everyone's felt like they hit a balance of being.
LeeOver the top or an annoying dickhead, but not to the point where you're like, oh, this is annoying me, I don't want to watch it, like it was just right.
AdamEveryone's everyone's in the right.
AdamSort of frame of like, you know, it's it's cartoonish.
AdamYeah, so all the ways in which people are vile to Pelt are ludicrously over the top and, you know, cartoonish and everything.
AdamAnd I have to say.
AdamClayvon Karlowitz, fucking magnificent bastard.
AdamYou know, because you know, he he's so bo-hish.
LeeYeah.
AdamYou know, he really is, you know.
AdamAnd.
ChrisI did I did get a little little Tom Cruise from him.
AdamYeah.
AdamI got a Tom Cruise sense from him, apart from the fact that he never at any point seem to be standing on a box.
ChrisYeah.
AdamI'm also, you know, you know the old, you know, actually I think we need to institute this as a thing, by the way.
AdamBecause obviously you've heard the, you know, when people was like, like I I will hopefully I'm not overstepping the mark, but by saying, you know, friend of the podcast, Liam Reagan.
Adam
AdamYou know, or friend of the podcast, who, whomsoever.
AdamI think we should also institute enemy of the podcast, Tom Cruise.
AdamWas lost.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, if anyone's in any doubt, listen to our Room 101 episode.
ChrisYeah.
LeeWhere Tom Cruise is mentioned once or twice.
AdamYep.
Leeand that was the other thing with this.
Lee
LeeThere was so much going on, which I love, like there's there's so much story in it.
Lee
LeeCrammed in but but without again, you know, like we've said before.
LeeIt felt really well paced.
LeeIt was although you, as you mentioned, Adam Chris, it's kind of it's kind of all the gritty unpleasantness is front loaded.
LeeSo you get all of that.
LeeAnd then then the the second two thirds of the film is just the absolute lunacy once Ronnie steps into the really.
LeeAnd it just goes absolutely ape shit.
AdamAnd actually and actually the film kind of does go ape shit with Ronnie, it feels like a psychotic break because Pelt's has pretty much wandering through.
AdamLike the bit where he goes in and they're going, oh, you've got dates pregnant.
AdamRight, you're going to have to get married.
AdamAnd then they're in the church getting married.
LeeAnd it's like.
AdamYeah.
AdamThis this this is this is quick.
AdamYou know, but it does feel almost like that sort of fugue state of.
ChrisYeah.
AdamYou know, or or dreamlike sort of thing where it's like, you know, have you just completely lost it at this point?
AdamYou know.
AdamBut I think yeah, because at first I yeah, at first I think I was the same as Chris.
AdamAs I think it was a because at that point.
AdamYou like, oh, just, you know.
AdamYou're going to be much more.
AdamAnd I think it.
AdamI think it also doesn't help how sort of adorable Lawrence Harvey is.
LeeYeah.
AdamIn that it's like, how can you be doing this to this poor man?
AdamYou know.
AdamLook at him.
Adam
AdamBut yeah, it's.
AdamSort of.
AdamAnd actually.
AdamI mean, that's the thing is I would say, I think that Eating Miss Campbell has improved the formula.
AdamBecause I think there.
AdamI think there's harsher things done said in Eating Miss Campbell.
ChrisYeah, I was trying to remember.
ChrisYeah.
AdamYeah.
AdamTo various characters, including the main character.
AdamBut I think they managed to you're already on board with the absurdity of it from the start and it's sort of works that way.
AdamAlso.
AdamI think the thing is by having it in school, you again that you don't have that thing of, well, why don't they just leave.
AdamAnd it's like, well, because you're stuck there, it's fucking school.
AdamYou all got to go.
LeeYeah.
LeeYeah.
LeeBut that's it, I mean, because I watched this with Lady Jennifer.
LeeAnd yeah, I sort of said to her the same as you guys, I was like, well, they keep saying, you know, he's got this lovely house and stuff, why is he keep going to this job?
LeeThey can't possibly pay him a decent wage, why does he keep going?
LeeAnd she was like, yeah, just because you got a nice house.
LeeDoesn't mean you got loads of money in the bank and a nice house always costs you an absolute fucking fortune.
ChrisThat's true.
LeeYeah, yeah, she's got a point, yeah.
ChrisI suppose he's he's pretty broken as well, he probably doesn't have any confidence in going doing anything else.
ChrisSo he's just that's it.
AdamYeah.
LeeAnd Danny's waiting for him at home.
LeeSo like.
LeeWe've all been in that relationship where you take a massive amount of abuse because you're like, well, yeah, but they're hot, aren't they?
AdamYeah.
LeeWe've done it.
AdamYou will be.
AdamYeah.
AdamStill doing it, mate, you know, not that not that.
AdamShe'd knock the fuck out of me.
Leeyeah, I loved the the end of this film as well.
LeeThe whole time I was just like, where is this.
LeeI couldn't work out how it was going to end up wrapping up.
Leeyeah, so the the final scene that when it goes down.
LeeWith but because you start to get an idea of where it's going with the kitchen scene with Ronnie, but then that turns into what looks like the best night out ever.
LeeAnd you kind of forget about it.
ChrisForget what's yeah, what the plan is, yeah.
LeeWhich is which is great, it kind of misdirects you away from it.
LeeWhen they just go out on this lunatic drunken night of just getting on it and getting tattooed and juggling eggs and God knows.
LeeAnd it yeah.
LeeIt was just.
LeeIt was such a such a great montage of like a night out and I was like, yeah, that's I've had nights out that feel like a five minute montage.
LeeLike.
AdamYeah.
AdamBut I I think also you've got because.
AdamI I like the thing as well because it was it reminded me a bit of American Werewolf, where.
Chris
AdamHe starts also hallucinating the victims like, you know, we say victims, he starts hallucinating the people who get killed because they're fucking asking for it.
LeeYeah.
AdamYeah.
AdamSo.
AdamLet's just put that out there.
AdamBut
AdamBut yeah, and but obviously because he's already got Ronnie's his is acknowledged all the way through.
AdamRonnie is his imagination, Ronnie is that, you know.
AdamAnd
AdamSo, yeah, I liked that when they started bringing them in as well, because it just sort of like.
AdamAgain, and like I say, just a vote.
AdamAmerican Werewolf for me as well.
ChrisYeah, yeah, definitely.
AdamOh, it's good.
AdamBut.
AdamBut I have to say.
AdamI mean.
AdamAnd also like Vigo Trego or Trego, fucking hell, you know.
AdamI can see.
AdamI can see why they wanted to bring back Mr. Sawyer and they wanted to bring back Deeds for Eating Miss Campbell, and even even though he's still called Clive Too Long.
Adam
AdamIt was a much.
AdamIt was a much different relationship in Eating Miss Campbell, because.
ChrisYeah.
AdamYeah, reading about it whether it was a sequel or not, or you know, whether this because that was the other thing that threw me as well.
AdamBecause I was like, I thought to myself, oh.
AdamWell, I know these characters in my head, I was like, oh, well, these characters will all go on to be in the next film.
AdamBut it's not really a sequel, it's a sort of I think he described it as how like.
AdamHe said Mallrats to Clerks.
ChrisOh, okay.
AdamYou know where it's like, you've got same characters in there, but it's a different feel.
AdamIt's a different sort of way of doing it.
Adam
AdamSo, yeah, so when Clyde dies, I was sort of, oh, so maybe we're not.
AdamYou know.
AdamIt doesn't link that way then or anything else like that.
AdamSo.
AdamAnd also.
AdamThe I mean, that was just if you want a sort of incapsulated trauma moment, it's definitely got to be the face melting.
AdamYeah.
AdamDefinitely.
LeeYeah.
AdamFace melting at the end with the eye popping out and everything, that was just.
AdamThat was, you know, that's your trailer moment and everything.
AdamBut it's
AdamBut yeah.
AdamAnd
AdamAlso, just a couple of references, Han and Lotta is the reference to Frank Han and Lotta.
AdamThe guy who did Frankenhooker, Basket Case trilogy, Bad Biology and Brain Damage.
LeeOh.
AdamSo and that's where that comes from.
AdamAnd the stuck on you T-shirt that he's wearing through a lot of it, that's a that's one of Troma's early films.
AdamLike one of their sex comedies from about 82, I think it is.
AdamSo that's like that technically vintage.
LeeYeah.
LeeActually you're saying about references.
LeeI did keep thinking that with Clive Too Long, I was like, is that a reference to Too Long from Puppet Master?
AdamIt is.
LeeOh it is.
AdamIt is.
LeeYeah.
AdamI did I did see that as well, yeah.
AdamSo.
LeeThat's it.
LeeOh, that's serious.
AdamYeah.
LeeBut yeah.
LeeAgain, you can see that you can see that sort of crossover as well, that world, again, it's it's it's a different type of.
LeeCrazy idea, but yeah, it's it could almost like the the full moon and.
LeeTrauma of almost got a crossover.
LeeNot quite, they're they're very different.
LeeBut you can see how the two of them are quite similar in their production style.
LeeAnd.
AdamAnd obviously you've got Lloyd Kaufman's cameo in this, he's the doctor.
Lee
Adamwhich apparently was he, you know.
AdamLiam Reagan said, oh, you know, do you want to appear in it.
AdamAnd he just came over.
AdamDid it in a day, went on.
LeeYeah.
Adam
LeeOh.
AdamOh, that's great.
AdamYeah.
AdamYeah.
AdamYeah.
Adam
AdamYeah.
AdamYeah.
Adam
AdamBut yeah.
LeeGreat to see him.
AdamBut I think you know, that's always good to see.
AdamBut also I just yeah, and taking them as sort of two together.
Adamyou know, like the two films together, I just want to see the continuing adventures of Deeds Montgomery and Mr. Sawyer.
ChrisYeah.
AdamBecause I think.
ChrisYeah, they are some couple of characters certainly.
LeeOh, man.
LeeYeah, I definitely watch a third one of them without a shadow of a doubt.
LeeSo, yeah, yeah.
Lee
LeeYeah, I just, yeah.
LeeThere was.
LeeSo you mentioned earlier as well, Chris, about the music being quite upbeat and getting you.
LeeYeah, I loved that.
LeeI thought that really.
Adam
AdamBut again, it's that it's that trauma thing of just sort of like.
AdamEverything's sort of everything's energy and it doesn't stop.
AdamBecause if there's one, there's one thing.
AdamI think actually that might be probably why to the effect at the start.
AdamIs that it doesn't give you any breathing space.
AdamSo you just go from bullying to bullying, to bullying, to bullying.
ChrisTo to some serious Gore, to a bit more bullying.
AdamAlso, you know, top marks, this is clearly
AdamClearly prosthetic penises are.
LeeYes.
AdamPart of Mr. Reagan's uvre.
LeeYes.
AdamSo I'll be looking forward to whichever prosthetic penis appears in the third film that he does.
LeeYeah.
Lee
LeeYeah, just to go back to something you said earlier.
LeeChris, as well, you were like, oh, maybe I should have a few beers.
Leeand you know, I'd enjoy it even more.
LeeAnd I think that's, you know, I know I know we mentioned.
LeeIt a bit with the the Class of Nukem High.
ChrisYeah.
LeeBut but as Adam just said, like the music and everything is such high energy and that's why these films are great, for getting a load of people and sitting around, drinking and chatting and having a laugh.
LeeBecause they are high energy.
LeeSo you don't get that like, you know, three or four beers in, you start getting that lethargic slump, like with something like this running in the background.
LeeThat you will keep training your attention back to.
LeeIt just keeps goosing you and waking you back up.
ChrisWell, that's what yeah, I definitely thought this built really well.
ChrisIt yeah.
ChrisIt just kept getting better all the way through to the end.
LeeYeah, we should definitely do that one night actually, is get a film like this on and get the three of us together.
LeeMaybe turn the mic on and have it running and just.
LeeSee what happens.
AdamYeah.
LeeBut.
AdamWell, if if any if people out there would be interested in hearing that.
AdamJust let us know at Instagram and places.
LeeAnd all the other stuff.
AdamYeah, the other the other places where we will ignore you.
AdamAnd I'm sorry about that.
Leeyes.
LeeSo I mean.
LeeThis is definitely a recommend from me.
LeeAs I said before, you can go and pick it up at refusefilms.com.
LeeYou can pre-order your.
AdamCopy.
LeeThere's only.
LeeThere's only a thousand.
LeeSo don't hang around, get stuck in.
AdamIt's it's Blu-ray, it's it's any region and loads of extras on both of them, Eating Miss Campbell and My Bloody Banjo.
LeeYeah, you'll definitely get your money's worth.
LeeAnd again, as we said before, these films have got such a rewatchability because there's so much going on and then it is a film you'd watch with one group of friends.
ChrisYeah.
LeeAnd then you can watch it six months later with a different group of friends.
LeeSo you'll you'll keep pulling it off the shelf, I think.
LeeSo yeah, definitely a recommend from us.
Leethanks again to Liam Reagan for allowing us to see this.
ChrisYeah, absolutely.
Lee
LeeAlso.
LeeWe would like to give a massive thanks as well to Nicholas Tomnay.
Chris
LeeWho we mentioned, he's the writer and director of The Perfect Host.
LeeThe film we covered a few weeks back.
Leehe got in contact with us randomly.
ChrisYeah.
Leeyeah.
LeeAnd gave me the buzz of the weekend.
LeeIt was awesome.
Lee
AdamYeah.
AdamAnd he's got he's got a new film coming out.
AdamWell, he's currently sort of I believe he's submitting it to festivals and everything.
AdamSo.
AdamYeah.
AdamI'll be absolutely.
ChrisYeah, really excited to.
AdamYeah.
AdamI really.
AdamI really, really would like to.
ChrisIt still seems mad that that the perfect host was his debut film.
AdamOh, yeah.
AdamWell, I I to be honest, it's still fucking mad.
AdamThat no bugger's seen it.
ChrisWell, yeah, yeah.
ChrisMake sure to change that.
AdamWe've had some we've had some lovely feedback from a few listeners who have.
Chris
Adamchecked it out now, and yeah.
AdamAgain, pretty much the same universal thing.
AdamIt's like, that's fucking brilliant.
AdamWhy I've never heard of it.
Leefunnily enough, just last night, Lady Jennifer and myself went to visit previous guest show on the guest on the show, Chris.
Leeyes.
LeeTo show him the perfect host, he'd never seen it and we discussed it, yeah.
LeeAnd without spoilers, and he was already sold on it.
LeeSo
LeeYeah.
AdamNice.
LeeSo very excited for that.
LeeWhat You Wish For is the new film that Nicholas Tomnay is working on.
LeeSo yeah, keep an eye out for that and if you get the opportunity, I'm sure it'll be great to see.
AdamI believe I believe that there is I believe there's an Instagram account for that, certainly that we are following.
LeeI'll be jumping on that as soon as we get on.
AdamYeah.
Leejust very quickly, to wrap up.
LeeNext week we are going to be doing something completely different.
Leewe thought we'd mix it up a bit, so next week instead of what we've been watching and not just because I've got into It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia for the first time and have not watched anything apart from that for the last month.
Leewe are going to be doing in the horror theme, we are going to be covering our own brushes with things that could be considered supernatural, so the three of us will be bringing our own stories of the super, not not stories of.
LeeYeah, not stories of supernatural, but stories of yeah.
ChrisThe paranormal and the weird.
Leethe unexplained, yes, and we've never really addressed our opinions on this particularly.
LeeObviously, the supernatural and the unexplained is a massive part of a lot of the films that we cover.
LeeSo we thought it had just be nice to kind of have a an open roundtable discussion of the three of us about the subject in general.
LeeAnd yeah, our brushes with it and how convincing or not they've been.
Chris
LeeSo, yeah.
LeeSo that's something a bit different.
LeeSo spooky stories ready for you next time.
Leego and check out My Bloody Banjo.
LeeGo and check out Eating Miss Campbell.
ChrisPrepare yourself.
LeePrepare yourself.
LeeGo and watch the perfect host again.
ChrisAgain.
Leeand we will see you all in a fortnight's time with some spooky shit.
LeeThanks very much, ladies and gentlemen.
LeeGood night.
ChrisGood night.
AdamGood night.
