Severance
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It’s the next film in our Countycide season, and today we go down to the woods for a big surprise, with 2006’s “Severance”, from director Christopher Smith. A film in which the arrival of a gang of brutal, sadistic murderers relieves the true horror of an office team-building weekend; Lord Percy steps in something rather nasty; and Danny Dyer provides niche observational humour for all the ‘shroom heads in the audience. Another under appreciated film from the man who brought us high-seas time twister “Triangle”, “Severance”, despite its once ubiquity in secondhand shop DVD racks, seems to have also fallen out of sight, which is a real shame. It has a strong cast portraying believable, genuinely funny, characters (whether the character knows it or not) evoking perfectly that mismatch of work colleagues thrown together outside of office hours. With a genuinely nasty streak and scenes of gore and murder that would be much more gruelling in a straight narrative, and a lovely playful mixing of perspectives; this film should be rightly remembered and embraced by more fans of the fusion of comedy and horror. Watch (or re-watch) to avoid spoilers and join us.
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Lee Good evening and welcome to Horror. I'm Lee.
Chris I'm Chris.
Adam I'm Adam.
Lee And we are here this evening, as promised, as always, to discuss the second part of our countryside.
Adam Countryside.
Lee Yes. Or as Lady Jennifer pointed out at the very first five minutes of this film, what should have been called Kick-Ass Blondes, because this film also starts with two blondes really giving it some heavy stick. We are covering 2006 film Severance.
Lee there will be a lot of swearing, there will be a lot of spoilers. I, I am going to go out on a limb and say, if you haven't seen this film, stop now, crack it down, watch it and return.
Lee Because I am very confident that we all love this movie and we are not alone.
Lee But not enough people have seen it, so it's one that there's a chance you've not seen, I know Chris, you, it took a while for you to track it down.
Chris Absolutely, yeah. I had not heard anything about it. So you mentioned it, it did not stand out to me as, you know, something that I absolutely needed to check out.
Chris And it turns out I should have done.
Lee Yes.
Lee So, on that, let's dive right into it.
Lee So, on your first viewing, Chris, I, just to give you a bit of background, I heard about this from a Canadian podcast, the the godfather of horror podcast, The Horror Etcetera Podcast.
Lee did, an episode on British, fucking Nora.
Adam Horror comedy.
Lee I'm not even drinking.
Adam This is sobriety for you.
Lee British horror comedy, and they covered The Cottage and this, and Shawn of the Dead and a film called Botched, which they were less fans of.
Adam
Chris Oh, okay.
Lee So I tracked it down, watched it in the week, had to have Adam over on Saturday night to rewatch it.
Chris Yeah.
Lee And I think I'll, don't think I've been back to it again since.
Lee But, Chris, what was your?
Chris Yeah, well, that's what's funny, I, as I was watching it, I was thinking, this is definitely something I would be happy to watch again.
Chris And I don't always think that, you know, sometimes it's like, this is an amazing film, but I just don't feel like I want to rush back to it.
Chris Saying that, there's a bit of a a double take here.
Chris So, I just want to start off with my little bit of alliteration, I definitely don't dislike Danny Dyer.
Lee Hnh.
Chris I don't know why it's not like him, like clearly there's something about him that seems to he's had some negative press as far as I gather, but I have completely missed all of that.
Chris The only two things I can think of ever seeing him in is Human Traffic and this.
Lee Amazing in both.
Chris Yeah, right, so he absolutely, it's hard to think of a better actor for these two roles.
Chris But like, I, yeah.
Chris I did not expect this to be anywhere near as funny as it was making me just laugh so much with so like, just overall the dialogue and the characters played together so well.
Chris Especially, I did not realize Captain Darling,
Lee Oh, right.
Adam Oh, Luke Perso.
Lee Yeah.
Chris So Tim McKinlay.
Adam It's.
Chris I always said.
Adam McInerney.
Adam I always said McInerney, but I think it's McEwen.
Lee McEwen, right.
Chris McEwen.
Lee Tim McEwen, that sounds like three people.
Adam Yeah.
Chris Yeah.
Chris But like, so when I saw him, but, you know, you've seen him on the on the coach.
Adam It's a Nicola.
Lee Yeah.
Chris And you're like, okay, he's interesting, this is, they've clearly captured exactly how one of these coach trips plays out.
Chris And I, I saw him leading it and I was like, is that going to be good, and it just absolutely it was just so entertaining.
Chris yeah, but just some of the quotes cracked me up.
Chris But on the whole, the dialogue is amazing.
Chris But it's just things like, I found the pie.
Chris And it's just the way they're all like.
Lee Yeah.
Chris What.
Chris He just like, yeah, these are, these are real characters.
Chris
Adam I cooked, I cooked it for the full hour.
Chris Yeah.
Adam Oh yeah, because every pie takes an hour.
Chris It's so good.
Chris and I'm not, you know, I don't tend to like sexist things.
Chris But when Danny Dyer delivers it, English birds ain't complicated, you buy them a Bacardi Breezer and they ride you like Seabiscuit.
Chris And it's just, he just delivers those sort of lines.
Chris It's.
Chris It's just him.
Chris And you think, I could so imagine him delivering that when he's just out with his mates.
Chris In a casual kind of way.
Adam I believe that's the secret of Danny Dyer in his successful roles is when Danny Dyer is playing Danny Dyer.
Lee He is, he's one of those.
Lee If you put him in the right thing, he's perfect.
Lee Because he's timing and he's delivery.
Lee And you were saying about the, you know, not wanting to just, you know, sort of go through all the hilarious lines.
Lee But his line when he's mushroomed out of his tits and he goes, to that bloke, you turn around with that big wide eye.
Lee I literally laughed until I thought I was going to poo.
Adam I, I and I don't, I don't wish to name and shame anyone on the podcast.
Adam So I'll be as abstract as I can in my next statement.
Adam But I recall the main thing that Lee, when Lee said he'd seen it, because weirdly enough,
Adam Sarah, my sister, for listeners, is a massive Danny Dyer fan.
Lee Sarah.
Chris Oh, okay.
Adam And she's a massive Danny Dyer fan, she thinks he's great, I think she went, she went to a book signing where apparently he did his catchphrase, which if you remember from Danny Dyer's deadliest men was, I'm shitting myself.
Lee Oh.
Adam So, but, yeah, he,
Adam I remember you, sort of like, so she, I saw it a few times, like, where she had it as well.
Adam But, yeah, I remember the specific reason when we got round there was Lee and was particularly talking to Dean, his brother.
Adam About a piece of what I'm going to describe as somewhat niche observational comedy in this.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Involving experiences in altered states, so let's just say that.
Lee Yeah.
Lee It, yeah, not to confess to anything on the show, but that, like, that bit when he's going,
Lee I think I, I feel damp, I think I might have pissed myself, can you check?
Lee Like, it, just, like, it just rang so true as the kind of thing that you hear people saying.
Chris Yeah.
Adam On mushrooms.
Lee On mushrooms.
Lee It's, yeah, it's that very, oh, and he just, he plays it.
Lee So well.
Lee Like, he's just.
Adam Everyone fucking does.
Lee Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Chris Yeah.
Adam The cast I know and the cast I don't are all fucking good.
Chris Yeah.
Adam And the, the fact that all the characters are characters and are all humorous.
Adam There's not a straight person, some of them know they're being funny and some of them don't know they're being funny.
Adam But everyone has a comic feel to them.
Lee Yeah.
Chris Yeah.
Adam You know, there's, there's not like.
Adam No one in it is the the nearest, I don't know, it's not, like, the nearest.
Chris I think I think it can be kind of be epitomized by how when the bear trap is is chopping off his leg, it's still, still they're funny in it.
Lee Yeah.
Adam The gore is horrible.
Lee But, but they just do.
Lee I mean.
Chris The fact that they can't hold it open.
Adam It's.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, the fact they can't hold it open is so realistic.
Lee Andy Nyman is and again, another one of the scenes that I particularly liked where they it it felt like a lesser film had show it and they didn't, was him on the diving board.
Lee Yeah, but you keep seeing him and you're waiting for him to fall and you don't see it, you just see the next scene where he's soaking wet and covered in leaves.
Adam Yeah.
Lee And it almost makes it funnier, because if you'd seen it, you know exactly what's coming, the fact that you don't see it somehow is more powerful.
Adam I tell you what, I forgot, the other thing I forget is when you watch it, this this film is so well fucking shot and you know, there's a lot of.
Adam That sounds really basic, but there's a lot of thought in it.
Lee Yes.
Chris Yeah, more than you might think.
Adam It's interesting, you don't, it's also interesting, you don't lose track of a film that has horror elements to, well, three fictionalized flashbacks.
Chris Yeah.
Adam So, you know, when they're telling the story of what the lodge used to be.
Chris That that was, yeah, all in different styles.
Adam Yes.
Adam And someone on hallucinating on mushrooms, and a cheese dream, but you never lose track of.
Adam It's never confusing even though it should be.
Lee Yeah.
Chris On paper it definitely should be.
Adam You can follow, you can follow those.
Adam You you you follow those turns and it never sort of detracts.
Lee Yeah.
Chris And and even within all those moments, like the overall, the overarching story arc is ridiculously, but ridiculously terrible as well.
Chris Because it's it's got a serious element to it all.
Chris And it's like I almost, I got to the point where it was, you know, you could tell it's got that.
Chris Even from the start, because it's like, well, this is clearly a morality situation.
Chris If they were working for an arms manufacturer.
Lee Yeah.
Adam I wonder if it was made now that would have been a different thing in some way or another.
Adam Because I think because I think for a start, you can have a company that has their hands in a lot of different things.
Adam And there's still an argument of culpability if the umbrella corporation, if you're, if the thing that owns your company also owns a company that sells weapons or.
Lee Yeah.
Lee Then you can't really, so you can't differentiate between what you're doing scientifically and how it's being applied into an into an unpleasant use.
Adam Yeah.
Adam But I think nowadays I think they'd make it somewhat less because watching, it's, it's weird because it's not that old a film.
Adam But I just don't think it would be, it's like you say, there's.
Adam They all work for the fucking weapons company.
Chris That's kind of funny.
Chris Like, because that is weird though, so I mean, 2006 is literally quite a few years ago.
Chris But it is of a modern, modern.
Adam Big mess.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah.
Lee It's funny though, Jennifer said the same thing about the the scene with
Lee Neil McInnerny.
Adam Tim McInnerny.
Adam Yeah.
Chris Yeah.
Lee
Lee Yeah, the scene with him where he's talking to that woman and it keeps getting more and more sort of complicated because he's trying to correct himself.
Chris Yes, yeah.
Lee And she's like, yeah, that that's having a conversation now, but you didn't think of that as having a conversation in 2006.
Lee Like it's what, and even on the bus at the very beginning, where the the woman suddenly says, you do realize that what you've made is a, you know, a training video for the SS or whatever, like you.
Adam Kill you, I think.
Lee Yeah.
Lee But it is, it's that felt like it was self-aware of itself back then.
Chris Yeah.
Adam Yeah.
Adam It hasn't a, and but also it's that weird thing which highlights that odd juxtaposition of corporate culture versus a weapons manufacturer.
Adam You know, where it's like, well, I don't want to cause offense, and I didn't want to do, you know, I don't want to look like.
Chris Yeah.
Adam I've sexually harassed someone or, you know, or whatever like that.
Adam But we are selling things that kill people.
Chris You sell.
Adam You know.
Adam And it's sort of.
Adam Yeah, but yeah, it's, but like I say, and weirdly enough, I think the thing, the weird thing is with it.
Adam Is it is actually, it's fucking brutal.
Chris Right, so.
Chris This, this was going to be my, this was going to be my negative, right?
Chris And I was trying to figure out, is it one, just my mood, I'm not wasn't quite ready for it, I don't know what it was, right?
Chris But I almost think they did too good a job of it being too funny and too entertaining that I just wanted more of that.
Chris And when it turned, it was like, oh, I sort of want a bit more funny.
Chris But, but I absolutely did did get into it.
Chris And then all the way through to the end, when it starts to get very entertaining again, especially the very last word, I was like, yeah, no, you've done me.
Chris Perfect, perfect ending.
Lee It is, it is very much a, as you say, like, we've said it before, a film of sections.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, where literally, when I rewatched it this time, for the first, from when they're on the bus.
Lee Until he finds the tooth in the thing, I literally giggled the whole way through nonstop.
Lee I was still laughing at previous jokes when the next scene was happening.
Chris Yeah.
Lee And you just laugh and laugh and then all of a sudden, as you say, the bear trap stuff starts happening.
Lee You go, oh fuck yeah, now this is getting really brutal, really over the top.
Chris When they see the coach, it's like, yeah, this is, this is going bad.
Lee And the guy of his guts, his guts dragged out into the walk.
Chris But the but the right, but all of that is after the first scene where the very first scene is the flashback.
Chris To the sort of roughly the end.
Adam Or flash forward, I suppose.
Chris Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chris and but yeah, and so you almost completely forget that, really.
Chris It's like.
Adam Yeah.
Chris It's mad.
Lee It's brilliantly constructed, it's excellently paced, it's got, like, it's got everything, and it is, it's one of those films I'm disappointed in myself for not watching more frequently because no matter what you're in the mood for, this has fucking got it in an abundance and really well done.
Lee It's, as you said, Adam, it's so beautifully shot.
Lee Like all the scenery and stuff is all amazing.
Lee The comedy is exceptional.
Lee The gore.
Adam But also the the sinisterness is in there right from the start.
Adam Because there's bits like where you've obviously had that, the fucking ridiculous scene where he's tripping and having a piss.
Lee Oh.
Adam Yeah.
Adam And then he turns around to finish his piss and no one sees it, but it slowly uncovers a dead body.
Lee Oh.
Adam Like just the slowly uncovers like some someone's face buried under the dirt.
Lee And you're like, oh yeah, that's horrific, I'd forgotten all about that.
Lee That's really horrific.
Adam It's but just it's so, it's, yeah, it's, it's a testament to it.
Adam Because I think because there are bits of it that are, you know, are near torture porn.
Chris So that's yeah, that was it.
Adam In terms of fear.
Adam In terms of characters in fear.
Adam Because I think like particularly, like Andy Nyman and Jill, Clodie Blakeley.
Adam both their deaths, I mean that's fucking horrible.
Chris Yeah.
Adam Because it because it's again, they're not, they're characters you've come to like or come to sort of, or you understand, if nothing else.
Adam And then you sort of, yeah.
Lee Andy Nyman is such a, like he's such a lovable character.
Lee As you say, despite the fact he works for that company, you can see how he doesn't even have that part of his brain switched on, he just does his job, he doesn't think about it, and he's very focused on it, he's very single-minded.
Lee And, oh, and he's just.
Adam Well, he's, he's a typical sort of like, you know, not quite management but, yeah, been with the been with the company for years, like.
Adam And just.
Chris Gets on with his job.
Lee It's just.
Chris Yeah.
Lee He's just very efficient at his job.
Adam And his job is being a pain in the arse.
Lee Chh.
Lee He just excels at it.
Lee As you say, everybody does, and I think that's again, that's another one of the things I love about it.
Lee Is the fact that, I know we say it quite frequently, but there's no weak links in this.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Like, of the main characters, everyone, as you said, Adam, even those who you don't recognize so much.
Lee You know, hold their own people who you see day in and day out in TV and in movies and just.
Lee Yeah, just absolutely sell it 100%.
Adam It's like even the fact that like Harris is likable.
Lee
Adam Even though in other films he would be much more, you know.
Adam You understand him, yes, he does want Tim McInnerny's job.
Chris Yeah.
Adam You know, but he probably is more competent than Tim McInnerny.
Adam You know what I mean, it's not, it's not hard to be better.
Chris Almost anyone.
Adam Because he's a fucking idiot.
Lee He's just a shitting idiot.
Lee That's how they are.
Lee Like, nobody does anything of noxious or, you know, that you'd be like, oh, yeah, what a prick move, like the majority of people just are, they just live for a position, but they're doing it in a realistic and believable fashion.
Adam I said.
Lee
Adam Yeah.
Lee And especially on one of these kind of team-building weekend exercise things where you, you know, you know you are being judged, but it's supposed to be a relaxed atmosphere, but nobody's relaxed because you all know.
Lee Apart from obviously Danny Dyer, who's just like, it's a weekend abroad, I'm going to get out my fucking nut and have sex with some prostitutes.
Lee And he's quite happy with that.
Lee He's, he's not trying to get up the ladder, so he doesn't give a shit.
Adam But that, but that's the thing, is it's it's that proper thing of it's a workplace thing.
Adam In as much as sometimes when you're at work, you do meet people who become friends.
Adam You might hang around with them outside of work or whatever like that.
Adam But in the main, you're with a group of people that you would not.
Adam You don't have much in common with other than you all work there.
Chris Aside from working, yeah.
Adam And so when you go away on this, as you say, like, supposed holiday.
Adam It's still fucking work.
Chris Yeah.
Chris It is a bit of an.
Adam And it's still sort of, there's still the hierarchy there.
Adam And there's still.
Lee And it takes us back to that that same scene, the Danny Dyer bit with that guy, when he's, you know, obviously tripping pretty hard, and he says, I know we're mates and everything, but if you look at my cock one more time, I'm going to proper fucking kick your ass.
Lee Laughs.
Lee Like it's, it's that like proximity thing of people who you work with, who you wouldn't.
Adam You wouldn't kick.
Lee Laughs.
Lee Oh, I just love it.
Lee I've got to say actually, I know that obviously we're selling this and 100% recommending it, but I can't think of a better recommend right now than to, bring up the quote that Jennifer sent.
Lee Now, Lady Jennifer, frequent guest on the show.
Adam Contributor.
Lee Yes.
Adam Team member.
Lee Yes.
Adam She's like the Jeremy Dyson of Welcome to Horror.
Lee Yeah.
Lee Who doesn't swear and generally will only watch films once, and then once she's seen them, she doesn't have to return.
Lee So we watched this and while the closing, the closing titles were still coming up.
Lee She sent to the group, Danny Fucking Dyer, I forgot he even did anything good, loved rewatching this film.
Chris Yeah.
Adam Yeah.
Chris Yeah, that does sum it up pretty good.
Adam The weird thing is as well, is because I had to, so I had to track it down.
Adam That's the weird thing, I get the impression this was something we were talking about like on the WhatsApp.
Adam Is I get the impression that this is something that's fallen between the cracks of streaming and physical media.
Adam In that this was, Danny Dyer did a lot of films that did that sold a lot of DVDs.
Adam And then ended up in cash converters or charity shops and things like that.
Adam So it's.
Chris Is it is it like the people that own the licenses to this just haven't answered some of their emails and like streamers trying to get it and it's like, you know.
Adam Then who knows, there could be some mad rights issue in it, I don't.
Adam Nothing I could see online, it was just, I think.
Chris But sure, it would surely be fine, you know, you'd just thought it would be valuable to have on there.
Lee I don't know who's in it who wouldn't want it to be out there.
Lee Like, anything in it that you'd look back on and go, oh shit, yeah, no, that was a bit.
Chris Oh no, I don't think I'd love to know what it was.
Adam Ability, you know what I mean, I don't know if that would even be a thing they would have any say in.
Adam in terms of the film.
Adam I think it, but like I say, I think it was just one of those things that when people like.
Adam This sounds terrible, but like, everyday people still bought DVDs.
Lee
Adam Everyday people now stream everything.
Adam No one bothers buying DVDs, it's a dying me.
Adam I do.
Adam But, you know, I'm twisted and obsessed and.
Lee Me too.
Adam You know.
Adam It's, so, I'm still buying the bloody things.
Adam Because I like having.
Lee Yeah, the extras.
Adam Yeah, I want the extras, I like having the thing, I like having a little thing that says, look, I've seen that.
Lee That's good.
Adam And.
Adam So, but it's weird, when so I had got this, I think I got it like secondhand off of Music Magpie or something like that.
Adam And it came through and the cover is just bright red with the characters in like black and white sort of monochrome over the top of that red.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Is that not just the same cover that was like The Football Factory, Rise of the Foot Soldier?
Adam There was a lot of DVDs that looked like that that all were very much cash converter classics.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And, and Danny Dyer's in a lot of them.
Adam I think I don't know whether it's like, but also when I when I was looking at the DVD, it was really clear as well that it all come from Shaun of the Dead as well.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Like the the artwork of the Shaun of the Dead, it was the same, you know, and everything.
Adam So I think.
Lee I think they tried to tie into that UK-based horror comedy thing, yeah, and maybe just looked at, as you say, Shaun of the Dead and gone, let's make something that looks a little bit similarish.
Adam It's, it's so, it's so the cover identifies it to people.
Adam It's like, you haven't got a trailer in front of you, but it's that, it's that, oh, well that looks a bit like Shaun of the Dead, I'll buy that.
Lee You know.
Lee It's like we said before with the, was it when we covered Near Dark.
Lee And we were saying, oh yeah, when Twilight came out, they did a new release of Near Dark and made it look a bit Twilight.
Lee And I was like.
Adam It was just May's face in close up, quite sparkly, sort of yeah.
Lee That's going to fuck everybody up who sees this and thinks that looks a bit like it and it's another vampire movie and then watches it.
Lee But hopefully, it does the job.
Lee But unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have worked for this because nobody talks about this film anywhere near as much as they should.
Lee It's an absolute.
Lee Like.
Lee Like we've said, it's literally got everything.
Lee It's fantastically made.
Lee It's brilliant.
Lee It it just, yeah, it it just isn't as well recognized as it should be.
Adam It's, it's weird as well because it's that.
Adam Like The Cottage.
Chris Yeah.
Adam Like on our previous episode, like you pointed out, Lee, you've got that thing of you've got like Andy Nyman representing the.
Adam And Danny Dyer representing comedy at that point.
Adam And Tim McInnerny in there as like representing the previous generation.
Adam Much like when we had Stephen O'Donnell and Reece Shearsmith in The Cottage.
Adam And they all sort of come about at this same sort of time.
Adam And I think even something like, I definitely would include Dog Soldiers in British Horror Comedy.
Lee Yes.
Lee Yeah, 100%.
Adam You know, I think there was like the 2000s, like that that sort of had a really good fucking hit of these things.
Adam And rightly or wrongly, I think they've all sort of gone a bit by the wayside.
Adam It's, I mean like Dog Soldiers.
Adam There's now started getting a a much more higher profile, but then that's because it's like the 25th anniversary or something like that.
Adam So it's like.
Lee Critically.
Adam Or 20th, sorry, I don't I didn't want to worry you that much.
Adam But it's yeah, it's like 20th anniversary, I think.
Lee We're old.
Lee But.
Adam Yeah, I think it's, yeah, I think it was last year.
Adam I think it's 2023.
Lee Dog Soldiers would have been a perfect, if we'd done this as a triple bill rather than a, you know, a a two-episode monthly thing.
Lee Yeah, Dog Soldiers I think would have been the perfect accompaniment to this.
Chris Yeah.
Lee
Lee Yeah, because it's got that same perfect balance, like super gore, good high production values.
Lee Really funny and then you think back of it as.
Lee Oh that was funny and horrific, and then when you watch it back, you go, yeah, no, both of those are ramped up to 10.
Lee And it's in perfect.
Lee Have you not seen Dog Soldiers, Chris?
Chris No.
Adam We cover.
Chris We covered it, yeah.
Lee We did, yeah, yeah.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Thank fuck for that.
Chris But but I'm no, but I could totally understand.
Chris Because I'm trying to think back to the scenes in it and it's like.
Chris Yeah, no, it's it's become murky.
Chris I bet if I did watch it again, like this, I'm sure this will have exactly the same thing, I'll remember it as being funny and dark, but it's like watching it again, I'll be blown away just how good it is.
Adam It's all the Landis and Carpenter fans all suddenly got old enough to make films.
Lee Chh.
Adam I think that's what happened.
Adam And you get, so you get this stuff that is, it's, because it's in that same sort of thing with American Werewolf.
Adam Of having genuine horror and genuinely funny comedy.
Chris Like I still can't get my head around American Werewolf being funny.
Adam On purpose, you know.
Chris Because in my head it it was always that terrifying film that I'm almost never going to be old enough to watch.
Chris But I'd heard about it for so long.
Chris It's like it's so weird when I found out it was funny.
Adam I think most people knew it from the video, the making of Michael Jackson's Thriller.
Chris Yeah, well, yeah.
Adam That's what they knew of, you know, the bit with, there's a disturbance in Piccadilly Circus with some sort of mad dog.
Adam David, all right.
Adam And that was the clip they showed to say why John Landis got the kick.
Lee But it absolutely is, like American Werewolf launched all of these films.
Lee Like being able to perfectly blend that came came from that.
Lee From that one film, I think really.
Lee I mean, there was a lot of horror comedies before, but they were mainly, correct me if I'm wrong, Adam, but I feel that before that, a lot of it was comedy based on the monsters or whatever.
Adam Yeah.
Lee Whereas, yeah, American Werewolf was a perfect blend of the two.
Lee And then all of these films, and don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's plagiarism or whatever.
Lee But like, it's created my favorite genre, if I'm honest, yeah, is the horror comedy where both are, both are equal and fantastically done.
Adam Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and it's been done so fucking well over the last few decades.
Adam Now, the interesting thing is, and I don't know, did you guys realize, you know who the director of this is?
Lee -
Adam It's, so it's.
Adam Christopher Smith, who also directed Triangle.
Lee Oh.
Adam Which we obviously fucking love.
Lee Holy shit.
Lee How did I not know that.
Adam But also is another film that has sort of doesn't seem to get its due, it's starting to get it, you know, like I said with Dog Soldiers, it's starting to get its due now.
Adam Even though that's like 20 years ago.
Lee Critically.
Adam Or 20th, sorry, I don't I didn't want to worry you that much.
Adam But it's yeah, it's like 20th anniversary.
Adam I think.
Lee We're old.
Lee But.
Adam Yeah, I think it's, yeah, I think it was last year.
Adam I think it's 2023.
Lee Dog Soldiers would have been a perfect, if we'd done this as a triple bill rather than a, you know, a a two-episode monthly thing.
Lee Yeah, Dog Soldiers I think would have been the perfect accompaniment to this.
Lee
Lee Yeah, because it's got that same perfect balance, like super gore, good high production values.
Lee Really funny and then you think back of it as.
Lee Oh that was funny and horrific, and then when you watch it back, you go, yeah, no, both of those are ramped up to 10.
Lee And it's in perfect.
Lee Have you not seen Dog Soldiers, Chris?
Chris No.
Adam We covered.
Chris We covered it, yeah.
Lee We did, yeah, yeah.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Thank fuck for that.
Chris But but I'm no, but I could totally understand.
Chris Because I'm trying to think back to the scenes in it and it's like.
Chris Yeah, no, it's it's become murky.
Chris I bet if I did watch it again, like this, I'm sure this will have exactly the same thing, I'll remember it as being funny and dark, but it's like watching it again, I'll be blown away just how good it is.
Adam It's all the Landis and Carpenter fans all suddenly got old enough to make films.
Lee Chh.
Adam I think that's what happened.
Adam And you get, so you get this stuff that is, it's, because it's in that same sort of thing with American Werewolf.
Adam Of having genuine horror and genuinely funny comedy.
Chris Like I still can't get my head around American Werewolf being funny.
Adam On purpose, you know.
Chris Because in my head it it was always that terrifying film that I'm almost never going to be old enough to watch.
Chris But I'd heard about it for so long.
Chris It's like it's so weird when I found out it was funny.
Adam I think most people knew it from the video, the making of Michael Jackson's Thriller.
Chris Yeah, well, yeah.
Adam That's what they knew of, you know, the bit with, there's a disturbance in Piccadilly Circus with some sort of mad dog.
Adam David, all right.
Adam And that was the clip they showed to say why John Landis got the kick.
Lee But it absolutely is, like American Werewolf launched all of these films.
Lee Like being able to perfectly blend that came came from that.
Lee From that one film, I think really.
Lee I mean, there was a lot of horror comedies before, but they were mainly, correct me if I'm wrong, Adam, but I feel that before that, a lot of it was comedy based on the monsters or whatever.
Adam Yeah.
Lee Whereas, yeah, American Werewolf was a perfect blend of the two.
Lee And then all of these films, and don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's plagiarism or whatever.
Lee But like, it's created my favorite genre, if I'm honest, yeah, is the horror comedy where both are, both are equal and fantastically done.
Adam Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and it's been done so fucking well over the last few decades.
Adam Now, the interesting thing is, and I don't know, did you guys realize, you know who the director of this is?
Lee -
Adam It's, so it's Christopher Smith, who also directed Triangle.
Lee Oh.
Adam Which we obviously fucking love.
Lee Holy shit.
Lee How did I not know that.
Adam But also is another film that has sort of doesn't seem to get its due, it's starting to get it, you know, like I said with Dog Soldiers, it's starting to get its due now.
Adam Even though that's like 20 years ago.
Lee Critically.
Adam Or 20th, sorry, I don't I didn't want to worry you that much.
Adam But it's yeah, it's like 20th anniversary.
Adam I think.
Lee We're old.
Lee But.
Adam Yeah, I think it's, yeah, I think it was last year.
Adam I think it's 2023.
Lee Dog Soldiers would have been a perfect, if we'd done this as a triple bill rather than a, you know, a a two-episode monthly thing.
Lee Yeah, Dog Soldiers I think would have been the perfect accompaniment to this.
Lee
Lee Yeah, because it's got that same perfect balance, like super gore, good high production values.
Lee Really funny and then you think back of it as.
Lee Oh that was funny and horrific, and then when you watch it back, you go, yeah, no, both of those are ramped up to 10.
Lee And it's in perfect.
Lee Have you not seen Dog Soldiers, Chris?
Chris No.
Adam We covered.
Chris We covered it, yeah.
Lee We did, yeah, yeah.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Thank fuck for that.
Chris But but I'm no, but I could totally understand.
Chris Because I'm trying to think back to the scenes in it and it's like.
Chris Yeah, no, it's it's become murky.
Chris I bet if I did watch it again, like this, I'm sure this will have exactly the same thing, I'll remember it as being funny and dark, but it's like watching it again, I'll be blown away just how good it is.
Adam It's all the Landis and Carpenter fans all suddenly got old enough to make films.
Lee Chh.
Adam I think that's what happened.
Adam And you get, so you get this stuff that is, it's, because it's in that same sort of thing with American Werewolf.
Adam Of having genuine horror and genuinely funny comedy.
Chris Like I still can't get my head around American Werewolf being funny.
Adam On purpose, you know.
Chris Because in my head it it was always that terrifying film that I'm almost never going to be old enough to watch.
Chris But I'd heard about it for so long.
Chris It's like it's so weird when I found out it was funny.
Adam I think most people knew it from the video, the making of Michael Jackson's Thriller.
Chris Yeah, well, yeah.
Adam That's what they knew of, you know, the bit with, there's a disturbance in Piccadilly Circus with some sort of mad dog.
Adam David, all right.
Adam And that was the clip they showed to say why John Landis got the kick.
Lee But it absolutely is, like American Werewolf launched all of these films.
Lee Like being able to perfectly blend that came came from that.
Lee From that one film, I think really.
Lee I mean, there was a lot of horror comedies before, but they were mainly, correct me if I'm wrong, Adam, but I feel that before that, a lot of it was comedy based on the monsters or whatever.
Adam Yeah.
Lee Whereas, yeah, American Werewolf was a perfect blend of the two.
Lee And then all of these films, and don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's plagiarism or whatever.
Lee But like, it's created my favorite genre, if I'm honest, yeah, is the horror comedy where both are, both are equal and fantastically done.
Adam Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and it's been done so fucking well over the last few decades.
Adam Now, the interesting thing is, and I don't know, did you guys realize, you know who the director of this is?
Lee -
Adam It's, so it's.
Adam Christopher Smith, who also directed Triangle.
Lee Oh.
Adam Which we obviously fucking love.
Lee Holy shit.
Lee How did I not know that.
Adam But also is another film that has sort of doesn't seem to get its due, it's starting to get it, you know, like I said with Dog Soldiers, it's starting to get its due now.
Adam Even though that's like 20 years ago.
Lee Critically.
Adam Or 20th, sorry, I don't I didn't want to worry you that much.
Adam But it's yeah, it's like 20th anniversary.
Adam I think.
Lee We're old.
Lee But.
Adam Yeah, I think it's, yeah, I think it was last year.
Adam I think it's 2023.
Lee Dog Soldiers would have been a perfect, if we'd done this as a triple bill rather than a, you know, a a two-episode monthly thing.
Lee Yeah, Dog Soldiers I think would have been the perfect accompaniment to this.
Lee
Lee Yeah, because it's got that same perfect balance, like super gore, good high production values.
Lee Really funny and then you think back of it as.
Lee Oh that was funny and horrific, and then when you watch it back, you go, yeah, no, both of those are ramped up to 10.
Lee And it's in perfect.
Lee Have you not seen Dog Soldiers, Chris?
Chris No.
Adam We covered.
Chris We covered it, yeah.
Lee We did, yeah, yeah.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Thank fuck for that.
Chris But but I'm no, but I could totally understand.
Chris Because I'm trying to think back to the scenes in it and it's like.
Chris Yeah, no, it's it's become murky.
Chris I bet if I did watch it again, like this, I'm sure this will have exactly the same thing, I'll remember it as being funny and dark, but it's like watching it again, I'll be blown away just how good it is.
Adam It's all the Landis and Carpenter fans all suddenly got old enough to make films.
Lee Chh.
Adam I think that's what happened.
Adam And you get, so you get this stuff that is, it's, because it's in that same sort of thing with American Werewolf.
Adam Of having genuine horror and genuinely funny comedy.
Chris Like I still can't get my head around American Werewolf being funny.
Adam On purpose, you know.
Chris Because in my head it it was always that terrifying film that I'm almost never going to be old enough to watch.
Chris But I'd heard about it for so long.
Chris It's like it's so weird when I found out it was funny.
Adam I think most people knew it from the video, the making of Michael Jackson's Thriller.
Chris Yeah, well, yeah.
Adam That's what they knew of, you know, the bit with, there's a disturbance in Piccadilly Circus with some sort of mad dog.
Adam David, all right.
Adam And that was the clip they showed to say why John Landis got the kick.
Lee But it absolutely is, like American Werewolf launched all of these films.
Lee Like being able to perfectly blend that came came from that.
Lee From that one film, I think really.
Lee I mean, there was a lot of horror comedies before, but they were mainly, correct me if I'm wrong, Adam, but I feel that before that, a lot of it was comedy based on the monsters or whatever.
Adam Yeah.
Lee Whereas, yeah, American Werewolf was a perfect blend of the two.
Lee And then all of these films, and don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's plagiarism or whatever.
Lee But like, it's created my favorite genre, if I'm honest, yeah, is the horror comedy where both are, both are equal and fantastically done.
Adam Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and it's been done so fucking well over the last few decades.
Adam Now, the interesting thing is, and I don't know, did you guys realize, you know who the director of this is?
Lee -
Adam It's, so it's.
Adam Christopher Smith, who also directed Triangle.
Lee Oh.
Adam Which we obviously fucking love.
Lee Holy shit.
Lee How did I not know that.
Adam But also is another film that has sort of doesn't seem to get its due, it's starting to get it, you know, like I said with Dog Soldiers, it's starting to get its due now.
Adam Even though that's like 20 years ago.
Lee Critically.
Adam Or 20th, sorry, I don't I didn't want to worry you that much.
Adam But it's yeah, it's like 20th anniversary.
Adam I think.
Lee We're old.
Lee But.
Adam Yeah, I think it's, yeah, I think it was last year.
Adam I think it's 2023.
Lee Dog Soldiers would have been a perfect, if we'd done this as a triple bill rather than a, you know, a a two-episode monthly thing.
Lee Yeah, Dog Soldiers I think would have been the perfect accompaniment to this.
Lee
Lee Yeah, because it's got that same perfect balance, like super gore, good high production values.
Lee Really funny and then you think back of it as.
Lee Oh that was funny and horrific, and then when you watch it back, you go, yeah, no, both of those are ramped up to 10.
Lee And it's in perfect.
Lee Have you not seen Dog Soldiers, Chris?
Chris No.
Adam We covered.
Chris We covered it, yeah.
Lee We did, yeah, yeah.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Thank fuck for that.
Chris But but I'm no, but I could totally understand.
Chris Because I'm trying to think back to the scenes in it and it's like.
Chris Yeah, no, it's it's become murky.
Chris I bet if I did watch it again, like this, I'm sure this will have exactly the same thing, I'll remember it as being funny and dark, but it's like watching it again, I'll be blown away just how good it is.
Adam It's all the Landis and Carpenter fans all suddenly got old enough to make films.
Lee Chh.
Adam I think that's what happened.
Adam And you get, so you get this stuff that is, it's, because it's in that same sort of thing with American Werewolf.
Adam Of having genuine horror and genuinely funny comedy.
Chris Like I still can't get my head around American Werewolf being funny.
Adam On purpose, you know.
Chris Because in my head it it was always that terrifying film that I'm almost never going to be old enough to watch.
Chris But I'd heard about it for so long.
Chris It's like it's so weird when I found out it was funny.
Adam I think most people knew it from the video, the making of Michael Jackson's Thriller.
Chris Yeah, well, yeah.
Adam That's what they knew of, you know, the bit with, there's a disturbance in Piccadilly Circus with some sort of mad dog.
Adam David, all right.
Adam And that was the clip they showed to say why John Landis got the kick.
Lee But it absolutely is, like American Werewolf launched all of these films.
Lee Like being able to perfectly blend that came came from that.
Lee From that one film, I think really.
Lee I mean, there was a lot of horror comedies before, but they were mainly, correct me if I'm wrong, Adam, but I feel that before that, a lot of it was comedy based on the monsters or whatever.
Adam Yeah.
Lee Whereas, yeah, American Werewolf was a perfect blend of the two.
Lee And then all of these films, and don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's plagiarism or whatever.
Lee But like, it's created my favorite genre, if I'm honest, yeah, is the horror comedy where both are, both are equal and fantastically done.
Adam Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and it's been done so fucking well over the last few decades.
Adam Now, the interesting thing is, and I don't know, did you guys realize, you know who the director of this is?
Lee -
Adam It's, so it's.
Adam Christopher Smith, who also directed Triangle.
Lee Oh.
Adam Which we obviously fucking love.
Lee Holy shit.
Lee How did I not know that.
Adam But also is another film that has sort of doesn't seem to get its due, it's starting to get it, you know, like I said with Dog Soldiers, it's starting to get its due now.
Adam Even though that's like 20 years ago.
Lee Critically.
Adam Or 20th, sorry, I don't I didn't want to worry you that much.
Adam But it's yeah, it's like 20th anniversary.
Adam I think.
Lee We're old.
Lee But.
Adam Yeah, I think it's, yeah, I think it was last year.
Adam I think it's 2023.
Lee Dog Soldiers would have been a perfect, if we'd done this as a triple bill rather than a, you know, a a two-episode monthly thing.
Lee Yeah, Dog Soldiers I think would have been the perfect accompaniment to this.
Lee
Lee Yeah, because it's got that same perfect balance, like super gore, good high production values.
Lee Really funny and then you think back of it as.
Lee Oh that was funny and horrific, and then when you watch it back, you go, yeah, no, both of those are ramped up to 10.
Lee And it's in perfect.
Lee Have you not seen Dog Soldiers, Chris?
Chris No.
Adam We covered.
Chris We covered it, yeah.
Lee We did, yeah, yeah.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Thank fuck for that.
Chris But but I'm no, but I could totally understand.
Chris Because I'm trying to think back to the scenes in it and it's like.
Chris Yeah, no, it's it's become murky.
Chris I bet if I did watch it again, like this, I'm sure this will have exactly the same thing, I'll remember it as being funny and dark, but it's like watching it again, I'll be blown away just how good it is.
Adam It's all the Landis and Carpenter fans all suddenly got old enough to make films.
Lee Chh.
Adam I think that's what happened.
Adam And you get, so you get this stuff that is, it's, because it's in that same sort of thing with American Werewolf.
Adam Of having genuine horror and genuinely funny comedy.
Chris Like I still can't get my head around American Werewolf being funny.
Adam On purpose, you know.
Chris Because in my head it it was always that terrifying film that I'm almost never going to be old enough to watch.
Chris But I'd heard about it for so long.
Chris It's like it's so weird when I found out it was funny.
Adam I think most people knew it from the video, the making of Michael Jackson's Thriller.
Chris Yeah, well, yeah.
Adam That's what they knew of, you know, the bit with, there's a disturbance in Piccadilly Circus with some sort of mad dog.
Adam David, all right.
Adam And that was the clip they showed to say why John Landis got the kick.
Lee But it absolutely is, like American Werewolf launched all of these films.
Lee Like being able to perfectly blend that came came from that.
Lee From that one film, I think really.
Lee I mean, there was a lot of horror comedies before, but they were mainly, correct me if I'm wrong, Adam, but I feel that before that, a lot of it was comedy based on the monsters or whatever.
Adam Yeah.
Lee Whereas, yeah, American Werewolf was a perfect blend of the two.
Lee And then all of these films, and don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's plagiarism or whatever.
Lee But like, it's created my favorite genre, if I'm honest, yeah, is the horror comedy where both are, both are equal and fantastically done.
Adam Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and it's been done so fucking well over the last few decades.
Adam Now, the interesting thing is, and I don't know, did you guys realize, you know who the director of this is?
Lee -
Adam It's, so it's.
Adam Christopher Smith, who also directed Triangle.
Lee Oh.
Adam Which we obviously fucking love.
Lee Holy shit.
Lee How did I not know that.
Adam But also is another film that has sort of doesn't seem to get its due, it's starting to get it, you know, like I said with Dog Soldiers, it's starting to get its due now.
Adam Even though that's like 20 years ago.
Lee Critically.
Adam Or 20th, sorry, I don't I didn't want to worry you that much.
Adam But it's yeah, it's like 20th anniversary.
Adam I think.
Lee We're old.
Lee But.
