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LeeGood evening and welcome to horror. I'm Lee!

ChrisI'm Chris.

AdamNo, I am Adam.

LeeI don't know why, over the last 150 episodes, it almost feels as if every episode I get a little bit more excited by that. You know, kind of I can't believe we're still here!

LeeWho the fuck is still listening?

ChrisSo how's this gonna be in 10 years then? You're just like shoot up through the roof.

Leeit'll hit the moon.

AdamIt's like he's running from the crash.

LeeEvery time. Look, we fucking live.

LeeHow is it still happening?

Leeso good evening. don't forget ladies and gentlemen, this is gonna be there's gonna be a lot of swearing and a lot of spoilers because those are a two favorite things that we like to do.

Leeand we are here for our what we've been watching episode.

Leeit's the run up to Halloween, so there's been lots of new stuff released. and I'm sure we've been slightly leaning towards more horror in our general viewing than usual.

Leeapart from those of us who have been unwell, which is everybody but me.

ChrisOh, you've escaped it, have you?

LeeYou see, this is what happens when you don't fuck around.

ChrisYou got it to come though.

AdamYeah.

LeeLock yourself in your house, you don't catch shit.

AdamI I feel so rough, I've got so many, I had so many one-liners about it, but it's just been like I'm rougher than a sandpaper hand job.

AdamI feel sicker than Prince Andrew's Google history.

ChrisI think you've you've really set the tone for this one.

LeeGoodbye new listeners. We're glad to see you.

Leeyes, so Chris, let's kick off with you.

LeeWhat have you been watching in the horror genre since our last gathering?

ChrisI've got a lovely little kickoff.

ChrisSo you've been recommending it possibly every single episode and every single bonus episode.

Chrisbut after seeing Adam from Not For Everyone started watching Inside Number Nine, I thought I have to. I've got to really get on this, haven't I?

ChrisSo, so I started from, started from the beginning, right. So Inside Number Nine, came out 2014, Reece Shearsmith, Steve Pemberton.

ChrisAnd they, as far as I know, they write it and mostly are the main actors.

ChrisBut you do get a whole cast of all sorts of other fantastic actors as well.

ChrisBut, yeah, so anthology.

ChrisWhat's not to love?

ChrisThat's great.

ChrisAnd it's amazing really. So I've seen the first two series.

ChrisI had seen the first two episodes of series one before, so I didn't watch those again.

Chrisbut yeah, it is amazing how sort of how different they can make them.

ChrisAnd yet all still have a feeling of it's like impeccable dialogue, character development in a pretty short space of time.

ChrisAnd they seem to gel really like, even though they're playing such different characters, it just seems to work so well.

ChrisWhether it's comedy, horror, like

LeeYeah, I I think that's the thing. I think Adam and I obviously were massive fans of those those two guys and, Mark Gatiss when they used to do The League of Gentlemen together.

Leeand they were playing different characters in the same show.

Leebut yeah, it still surprised me just how well they can kind of write these half-hour segments. It'd be absolutely astonishing and then the next week they just do it again.

LeeAnd as you say, I was like they might get a couple, you know, it's like Tales of the Unexpected or something where you've got like two or three good series and then it all started sort of sloping away and it got very samey and very shit.

LeeInside Number Nine just seems to have hit like an eight to nine out of ten and just fucking stuck with it the whole way through and it's still going. It's just astonishing.

AdamIt's a sickening amount of talent, isn't it?

ChrisYeah, really. That that's that's I think they would say it that way.

AdamIt's no, truly, because like you say, they they show. This would be a series,

Adamthis would be an amazing series if you were just the writer or you were just the two actors who appeared in it everyone.

AdamBecause it's like a showcase for them as performers.

Chris

AdamBut it's also their like amazing scripts and their amazing ability of

AdamI mean, obviously there's producers and directors and casting and stuff like that.

AdamThe the music, by the way, all the music is done by the guy who did, the soundtrack to Triangle.

ChrisOh, okay.

AdamChristian Henshaw.

ChrisDon't remember you saying that before.

ChrisOkay.

AdamI I think I can't remember, but I because the weird thing was is when I was watching Triangle, I looked him up and I was like, I'm already following him. And then it was like, oh, yeah. I've I've put the two together.

ChrisYeah.

AdamBut the they're also when you when you get towards the end, Chris, there's a very good podcast on BBC Sounds called Inside Number Nine. Inside, inside Number Nine.

ChrisOkay.

ChrisYeah.

AdamAnd it's presented by Reece and Steve. I think they started doing it when during lockdown because it was like a way of continuing to produce stuff around it.

AdamBut yeah, they basically did they did like sort of a best-of series and then every series they've made subsequent to that, I think the last two.

ChrisSo that's interesting. So best of, they choose their their best episodes to discuss.

AdamThey show they chose like, I think like they basically made a series, but I think it was voted for.

Chris

ChrisOkay.

AdamI think it was actually voted for online but, because I know,

Adamhave you seen, Chris, have you seen the 12 Days of Christine?

ChrisYeah, well so that's what I was gonna say out of the two series, I was thinking, can I choose a favorite? And and that absolutely stands out and it's like, how can this be standing out against what was so amazing already?

LeeWait, sorry, I just I'm just gonna have to cut through you there. Is that the fucking horrible Christmasy one?

AdamYeah, it's the one with, oh,

ChrisIt is.

LeeWhat is wrong with you, Adam?

AdamHis favorite film,

LeeDon't worry, Chris, they have one of those every two seasons or so. One of the ones where I go, yep, I won't be talking to anybody for the next four days having watched that and,

ChrisBut but it's just the way they mix the twists with still elements of comedy and darkness. And, you know, the psychological surreal experience and you're just thinking, look, they have captured something there that I could really imagine that's almost exactly how something could transpire and you'd just be like, yeah, this is the reality.

LeeBut it's the why they keep throwing a spanner in their own works with the, let's make a completely silent episode. Let's make an episode that's entirely iambic pentameter. Let's do an episode where where it's all done in one shot.

LeeLike, like they just keep saying, we've got the best show on TV.

LeeHow could we possibly try and trip ourselves over? And they just keep and they they still pull it off every.

ChrisBut is that that might be, yeah, that's a bit like though creating certain constraints somehow can propel you to create some of your best work.

AdamI think it's also there's such a melting pot of like they admit themselves of influences, but they've got such a wide range.

ChrisYeah.

AdamIt's not just it's not just gonna be like here's 12 Hammer movies. Or, but they also have this sort of lovely thing of how far or how how far do you go as comedy or not.

AdamBecause there are certain ones that sort of get they there's some fucking dark shit in some of these. And and done really well.

AdamBecause I don't think it's ever done I don't think it's ever done in a way that people would find too repellent, just sort of that's horrible. Yeah.

LeeThere's lots of episodes that I watched and then said, I will definitely never watch that again, but I've never said I didn't enjoy it. I've just said I enjoyed it as a journey, but I couldn't possibly ever put myself through it a second time.

ChrisYeah, that is interesting.

ChrisWell, I I've got a lot to look forward to.

AdamYou have. You really have, man.

LeeI'm just looking. So you've watched the first two seasons, is that what you said?

ChrisYeah, yeah, that's it.

LeeOh, God. See, that's the funny because I thought you'd seen a lot, I thought there was a lot of the like the stand-out episodes you'd already seen, but now I'm looking back through them as we talk. I'm like, yeah, he hasn't seen that one, he hasn't seen that one, he hasn't seen Oh.

LeeYeah. No, it it's it it just keeps getting better and better. It really does. It's the show that just keeps giving.

ChrisYeah, and how it goes from being comedy to being dark in each different one. And it's like, yeah, now I'm into this now. This is you've you've just set my mood perfectly for.

LeeEvery episode has both. Every episode is funny and sinister, but to varying degrees.

LeeLike, a lot of the time they're kind of half and half, but yeah, sometimes they go wildly to one end or the other.

ChrisIt's like Nanna's Party just because do you remember where he's got his head up in the cake and you're like, because they're setting you up and you're like, I know you're setting me up for for what's obviously going to happen and then it still twists enough that you're like, no, I didn't I did not see that coming.

AdamThere are there are certain ones where you do feel they've gone, right, what's the most Tales of the Unexpected episode we can do? And how can we basically, how can we show, like how can we do Roald Dahl now?

AdamBecause it's not, you know, it just doesn't cut it anymore.

LeeYeah, so so for any of our listeners, that is probably possibly the hottest take from this episode is if you haven't seen Inside Number Nine, 100% go out and get stuck in because you've got seven series of absolute gold there.

ChrisStop listening to us whatever you do and just go and press play.

LeeSome of them will make you want to shut yourself in a dark room away from your family for a couple of days, but you'll still feel enriched for it, so it's all good.

ChrisAbsolutely.

LeeAdam, would you like to tell us what you've been watching?

Adamyeah.

AdamI've I well, I'll kick off with because it's now so long ago that I watched it that I could be losing memories as we speak. So, but I watched, Men,

Adamwhich the 2022 film which is the new one, what the the latest one from Alex Garland.

ChrisOh.

AdamWho yeah, who did Annihilation and Ex Machina and

ChrisYeah.

Adamand what was the, yeah, but a lot a lot of movies for Chris.

ChrisYep.

Adamand, and Devs, that was the other thing I was trying.

ChrisOh, Devs, the series. Yeah, that was really good.

Adam

AdamAnd basically it's I definitely, Lee, it will do nothing for you because I think you would just be annoyed at the lack of because there is it's like, you've there is a message, isn't there?

AdamBut I'm not entirely sure how what's what you've fallen down on with it, or sort of which side you're on.

AdamIt's yeah, it's it's a very but it's a very strange film.

AdamIt they sort of bung in a bit of folk horror but that's not really important at all as far as I can sort of say with the film.

Adambut basically so there's this there's a woman played by Jessie Buckley who's basically you find out fairly early on that her husband has possibly slipped, possibly killed himself by jumping off of a building.

Adamand you get drip-fed basically quite early on that you realize that they're in the process of breaking up and he was just a fucking prick.

AdamSo you're not really that fucking bothered. you just think, well, out of it.

Adamand then but she goes on holiday, obviously, like to try and sort of you know, get her head back together.

AdamAnd ends up in this village where she is basically constantly sort of given examples of very toxic masculinity of sort of like just blokes being blokes.

Adambut they're all played by Rory Kinnear.

Adamwhich is so it's kind of is it that they are it's like there's one man.

ChrisYeah.

AdamAnd it's it and it doesn't make itself particularly clear in either camp.

ChrisSo does she not she responds to them as if they're different, right?

AdamYeah, she never registers that they are the same person, but we the audience see this. To the point where there is a bit where she there's a there's even like a 14-year-old schoolboy who's a little prick.

AdamAnd he's got Rory Kinnear's face.

AdamSo it all goes a bit fucking Aphex Twin and a bit.

ChrisYeah.

AdamWell, to be fair, it also goes a bit Alan Partridge because there's a bit in an Alan Partridge where they on a schoolboy.

LeeDo you know what? I'll fucking take it. I'm not fussed.

AdamBut yeah, it's.

AdamIt's very good, definitely worth checking it out. And like I say, just prove to yourself Roger Moore's a fucking good actor.

AdamBecause the cliché is there. He actually mentions James Bond in it as well.

AdamThey say about industrial espionage.

LeeIt's got to be said that literally all I know him for.

ChrisYeah, yeah. Was he in Cannonball Run?

AdamHe was in Cannonball Run, yes. Playing playing the the son of a wealthy Jewish woman who's had plastic surgery to look like Roger Moore.

LeeDo you know what? Cannonball Run is another one of those.

LeeI I he's only every three or four years, I think, I'm gonna watch that. And I always watch it and go, that was fucked. I need to watch the second one. And I always watch them back to back because I'm always like, I seem to remember the second one being more mental, but I can't see how it possibly could be and then I watch it and go, oh yeah, it is. Yeah. What the fuck?

LeeBut yeah, I mean.

LeeCool.

Leeso I have finally gotten around to watching a TV show that I've heard of loads of times but I've only just managed to actually sit down and watch it.

LeeReason being, I signed up for Disney Plus this No this October, sorry, ready for Hocus Pocus 2, which I did watch and I'll cover if we have time, but it's not quite as horror as this.

Leeso I finally watched 2015 Scream Queens, the TV show.

Chris

LeeDid you see it, Adam?

AdamI've not seen it.

AdamNo.

LeeOh.

LeeSo it's Emma Roberts, and Billie Lourd, obviously who you'll know from American Horror Story.

Leeit's Abigail Breslin, who is the young girl from Zombieland, and Keke Palmer, who you've also just watched in Nope.

LeeAnd basically they are the main characters in a slasher mystery horror about a sorority house set in 2000, well, set in 2015 when it was made.

Lee

LeeYeah, but yeah, it's it's utterly fantastic.

LeeI was expecting it to be entertaining, when I saw the cast, but actually it's so much better than I expected.

LeeIt's that.

AdamSee, I think I I think I got it confused because I thought it was a reality show.

LeeOh.

AdamOkay.

AdamWas there a reality show or something of a similar thing?

ChrisYou could think with a name like that, there could be, yeah.

LeeYeah, I was gonna say, I didn't watch it for I don't know why I didn't watch it.

LeeAnd it was only when I saw it on, as I say, when I got Disney Plus about two weeks.

ChrisYeah, they seem to be bringing quite a few horror because because that was it was obviously the aimed at kids and Star Wars stuff.

ChrisMandalorian when it first released.

ChrisBut yeah, they seem to be adding a lot on.

AdamWell, that's a lot of Hulu stuff gets released on there.

AdamSo I'm hoping they're gonna do the, the new Hellraiser.

LeeI'm very much actually just before we started recording this evening, I just re-watched, Hellraiser Bloodline.

AdamOh, cool.

LeeWhich you know, a lot of people talk shit about, but I just.

AdamCome and fuck off.

LeeWell, I'd love to see the original cut.

LeeBecause apparently the original cut was 25 minutes longer and was all that backstory setting France when the box was made, which was the bit of the film that I really, so that half an hour of the film, I really liked and the rest of it was terrible, really.

Lee

LeeBut yes, I could definitely have done a full hour of that and then put up with the nonsense.

AdamBecause I think the original originally because there is also you can get you can get they've published the script.

AdamLike Martin Atkins's original script, which has a lot more in it.

LeeOkay.

Adam

AdamBut also I think I'm I'm I think I'm remembering this correctly is originally it was just gonna be linear.

AdamSo you wouldn't get the flashbacks to because obviously it starts on the space station and then it's like, oh, here's the history of it. And so on and yeah, they go back and they go to various times and stuff like that.

AdamBut I think originally it was just meant to be you saw it pass through time.

LeeYes, I you are correct.

LeeI think because, so another podcast that I listened to just covered it this weekend, which is what reminded me and I was like, oh, I'm gonna listen to that.

LeeYeah. And that's what they said. It was it was supposed to be,

Leeyou know, it was it was gonna show that and basically jump the bits we'd already seen.

Leebut yeah, I mean, yeah, but yeah, it it was it was a it was a good enough film. I quite liked it. It didn't feel too pandery. Yeah, it it it kind of ticked all the boxes had a nice time for an hour and a half. But anyway, we have on quite long enough.

LeeSo,

Leewe shall be back with our next full episode, in two weeks time which will be,

LeeReturn of the Living Dead.

ChrisOh.

Leewhich will be part of our punk rock horror month.

Leebut in the meantime, we are gonna try and squeeze it in.

LeeI'm only mentioning it because it will mean that we definitely have to do it.

Leewe we all have seen Nope and wanted to discuss it, but we decided that we didn't want to squeeze it in here and and have to either cut other stuff out or give it the short shrift because.

LeeNope.

LeeWe'll.

LeeWill.

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