WTE - We Three Kings
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And we’re back like a vertebrae! Two worlds collide and we present “Welcome To Everyone: We Three Kings”. The Not For Everyone and Welcome To Horror podcasts have teamed up again for what the cool kids are definitely still calling the most ambitious crossover event in history. It’s Christmas; so we bring you “We Three Kings”- where we each choose our top 3 Stephen King adaptations. Between double-thinking each other’s lists and a few participants wilfully ignoring the assignment, this is a truly eclectic selection of the King on screen. A Christmas present from the people who brought you the unique podcast idea of squabbling man children talking about films. Enjoy.
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Adam Eight martinis are working just fine for warming me up.
Chris That does a trick too.
Adam Goddamn right.
Adam All right, ready?
Lee I thought we were already going.
Adam What are we ready for?
Lee All right, Snobby Bobby.
Adam All right, it's time for our semi-annual welcome to everyone.
Adam We've done this probably three or four times now.
Chris What d'you think?
Lee What d'you think, Snobby Bobby?
Unknown Snobby Bobby.
Adam but yeah, we, we combined forces yet again for a Christmas holiday special, themed 'We Three Kings'. Is that what we went with?
Lee Yeah.
Chris Yeah, yeah, we'll go with that.
Lee Yeah, that's a good title.
Adam Okay, well, my name is Snobby Bobby. I got the Crud Rood Dude with me, on his, on his work telemarketing headset.
Adam Which, is that tax write-offable for the, for the podcast?
Lee Multi-use, multi-function, folks.
Adam And then, why don't we go around the old Mulberry Bush here and introduce the, Welcome to Horror guys.
Lee Hey, I'm here. I'm Lee from Welcome to Horror. Hey.
Chris And I'm Chris from Welcome to Horror.
Unknown And I am Adam from Welcome to Horror.
Adam He's our, is that resident Vincent Price?
Adam And Roger Corman?
Chris He hasn't done as many different voices lately.
Lee He doesn't do that. He doesn't do that shit for us. He pulls out all the stops for you guys.
Adam He You have to ask.
Lee Well, he doesn't tell us either, so I'm listening to one of your episodes and I'm like, 'Roger... Hang on a minute.'
Adam I don't even tell, I don't even tell Adam or Austin whenever we add those. I just keep it. It's me and Adam's, Adam, not Crud Rood Dude, other Adam's, special little secrets.
Lee That's how Bobby checks to see if I'm even listening to the episodes, is if I know these things that he sneaks in that I wouldn't have had no prior knowledge to.
Adam Isn't that a really good impression that I did, Adam?
Unknown I'm like, I know this one you, Bobby.
Chris You're just going to throw traps straight for you as well.
Lee Say that again?
Chris Just see if you can catch people out.
Adam Yeah, yeah.
Adam All right, so, tonight, I guess, we're going to just talk about I don't, there's no real rules here. The, the theme is our personal top three Stephen King adaptations, like film or or, or sketch, I guess, or anthology adaptation stories.
Adam Crud Rood Dude, are you still with me? I, I can't tell.
Unknown I'm here.
Adam Okay.
Unknown Crud Rood Dude is here.
Adam For those of you at home that are just listening, the camera is on the floor and I see this ominous silhouette, blurry silhouette.
Unknown It's on the counter. It's on my kitchen counter.
Adam I'm just waiting for you to spit on your phone.
Chris It does a pretty good job of focusing on you every so often.
Adam Yeah. We need to get some, we need some 3D, 3D glasses.
Chris It kind of gives you the same look as that view from out of like the trunk of a car.
Unknown Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm going for.
Lee I was going to say, for a new.
Adam It's P.O.V. Goodfellas right here.
Unknown This is how the ladies look at me.
Adam
Unknown Yeah, yeah, so I'm here. I'm here.
Unknown And the thing about the Stephen King, like, look, I went through a a list online, I'm like, let me actually like look up all the goddamn adaptations.
Unknown And if we're just talking movies, that's like a list as long as your arm.
Unknown And then if you start talking about TV movies, not even counting the movies themselves, there's your other arm, you know what I mean?
Unknown There's just so much media of Stephen King shit.
Unknown And it's not all good.
Unknown But some of it is really, really, really great.
Adam I like to jerk myself off with both arms when it comes to Stephen King.
Unknown And you can. You really can.
Unknown You absolutely have that with Stephen King.
Adam And I think he does too, to be honest.
Adam Unless a more talented filmmaker adapts one of his films and then it's like just, you know, he's flaccid.
Unknown Am I am I correct in assuming that the only movie he directed was 'Maximum Overdrive'?
Unknown I mean, did it?
Unknown Did it do so bad that I mean, it's a great movie.
Unknown My kid is in, he's enrapt in it right now. He is in this thing. Thumbs up. Give me a thumbs up right now.
Unknown So he's over there watching this movie because it's badass. I saw it when I was like seven years old. It's great.
Chris Isn't it like insane?
Unknown It's insane. It's insane.
Chris No, I've I've only seen it once. I did want to watch it for this, but I didn't manage to.
Lee You should definitely seen it more. It's one of Lady Jennifer's all-time favorite terrible movies.
Chris That's it. I seem to remember it was her and Sharon showed it to me. It was like, you've got to watch this.
Chris But I I'd no I I did not know it was Stephen King. I did not know that.
Adam Until until I saw this list that both of you have 'Maximum Overdrive' as their number three.
Adam Interesting.
Adam So let's start with that as an honorable mention.
Chris Oh.
Unknown Honorable mention, honorable mention.
Adam That's how segway.
Unknown Stephen King's top three. My son's top three, he's definitely screaming that this is an amazing movie. So.
Adam Now, is your child named after Stephen King?
Unknown I tell him he's named after Stephen King. I also tell him he's named after Burger King and the King of Siam and he didn't believe any of it.
Unknown so, yeah, he is. He doesn't believe some of them.
Unknown But, he is definitely named after Stephen King, 100%. That's it.
Adam So, real quick, before we jump into our, our picks for this very special Welcome to Everyone episode.
Adam let's just go around, does everyone here, I mean, are you guys really just what's your kind of relationship with Stephen King as far as his, is everyone read a handful of his books or are we all just kind of exposed to the movies? How does that work?
Lee I have to admit I have never read a Stephen King book.
Lee I've seen quite a lot of his adaptations. I've watched some new stuff, well, not some new, I've watched some stuff I hadn't seen for a very long time for this episode, but in a slightly different way because I knew we were all going to go for the same ones.
Lee I went to the other end of the list, and I went with the worst of his adaptations that I could get my hands on.
Chris Which I've come to realize that they're some of those are the best.
Unknown Winning that mentality and like nobody's going to mention the fucking 'Dead Zone', you know?
Adam Here's, this is, I'm going to throw this out there.
Adam My list is not going to be the seminal classic adaptations of Stephen King.
Adam I went very autobiographical as to what is not necessarily a great film, but something that really means something to me.
Adam So that's the angle I'm taking.
Unknown Sometimes they come back.
Adam You love that shit.
Adam I love 'Sleepwalkers'.
Unknown Yeah, yeah.
Unknown It means a lot to us.
Adam That's why I'm a furry today.
Chris So that has been one of the big surprises for me, 'Sleepwalkers'.
Chris I cannot believe that was not mentioned first and foremost of this.
Unknown
Adam The great Mick Garris, 'Sleepwalkers' where the cat boy fucks his cat mom and,
Adam All right.
Unknown That's the one.
Adam That's the one. Every time I hear that, what is it, Johnny and Santos song, what I forgot, the, the guitar, the sleep, the song 'Sleepwalker'. Every time I hear that now, I just think of cat fucking, and I love that. It's a classic, you know, instrumental guitar piece, but now it's just like, nope, cats having sex, humanoid cats, incestuous humanoid cat sex.
Chris It's like, it's like.
Unknown Yeah, yeah. What was it? Q Lazarus.
Chris 'Goodbye Horses'.
Lee No, no matter what.
Adam Was was that a song, was that like a popular song before 'Silence of the Lambs'?
Unknown It was a song before. I don't know if it was a popular song.
Adam Okay, it was a it was out.
Adam I only know it from that. I, I worry that like Johnny and Santo are rolling in their grave because now whenever everybody hears the fucking badass sleepwalking guitar, they think about cat fucking.
Adam No, not everybody, just me and you and maybe some other people on this call.
Adam Not everybody. We haven't tainted the good name of that, that track.
Chris Yeah.
Unknown Yeah, yeah.
Chris Anyone who's seen that movie.
Chris That's the thing. It's it's it's done the Tarantino trick of like just imprinting that on that song. That's what I.
Adam That's what Mick Garris does. Mick Garris destroys great songs.
Unknown Yeah. That movie's fucking terrible.
Unknown Hey, I love Mick Garris. I don't love that movie though.
Unknown Come on, Mick. What are you thinking?
Unknown All right, have we talked about any movies that are on anybody's list yet?
Adam No, we got to get the, the, intro banter out of the way here.
Unknown Okay.
Adam Okay, so, real quick, I, I just want to say, I am not a avid reader of Stephen King.
Adam I've done a lot of his short stories, 'Skeleton Crew' I read when I was a kid, 'The Long Walk' which I highly recommend, 'The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon' which is a book about a girl being lost in the woods, it's about two, 300 pages and it's just like, how does he write entertaining literature just about being lost in the woods and it's fucking incredible.
Adam and then I started listening to 'It', the, the audio book of 'It' when 'It' phenomenon came back a few years ago with the movies.
Adam I was like, I should probably just knock out this book. I've only really seen the Tim Curry version.
Adam and it's just like, did it have to be like 1,600 pages? I don't think it did. I don't think it needed to be that long.
Adam So, I got about maybe two-thirds of the way done, I'm like, I think.
Unknown Well, they got to, they got to fit the child orgy in there somewhere, you know?
Adam Well, that is important. That is an important.
Unknown So, there's nobody, there's nobody knows that that's a huge bit in the fucking book of 'It'?
Adam I think everybody knows that now because they're listening to us.
Unknown Is it time to go after, has it been titled?
Chris So, what, so I thought, like, so I read some of his books, but I was probably 12. And now I'm wondering, did we just skip most of the books because it was like me and a few other friends and just read some of the scenes because there's a lot I don't remember from.
Chris From 'It' and that being one of them.
Chris For, yeah, from 'It', definitely that and, and I'm sure I read 'The Stand' and maybe 'Dark Half' and 'Pet Cemetery'.
Adam I thought you were the guy that would like accuse like noodle horror, but you're the one rattling off like.
Adam Okay.
Chris No, no, but so, so we, we got hold of the books. We were able to read the books, but we couldn't watch the films until later.
Chris So we were all reading the books going like, these are amazing.
Chris And then, yeah, a few years later, like, so 'Pet Cemetery' was one that I did see.
Chris the 'Dark Half'.
Unknown Oh.
Chris
Adam Sorry.
Chris Yeah.
Chris yeah, so so I did, as far as I know, I did read some of them.
Adam You're a bigger reader than you give yourself credit for.
Unknown Yeah, yeah, yeah. I read a lot of Stephen King back in the day.
Unknown mainly the kind of shit you're saying, like, all the short stories and stuff, that's my, that's my jam when you can make a complete story in 20 pages that it keeps my attention, right?
Unknown But I did read, you know, the child orgy 'It' and, 'The Stand' and.
Adam Just that part.
Unknown Yeah, that's just you go to what, what your interests are.
Unknown No, I read some of them back in the day and they were, they were decent.
Unknown I don't read so much anymore.
Unknown I mean, if they were going to make it in like a, put pictures in it, if they're going to make a movie of it, I mean, I'll watch it.
Adam The one one, the one I, that stands out to me, I, I wish there was a at least some sort of 'Creepshow' kind of thing, vignette about it.
Adam But there's one called 'Here There Be Tigers' in, I think, 'The Skeleton Crew' about a boy that wants to go to the bathroom really bad in his elementary school, but there's a actual little, literal tiger inside the bathroom.
Unknown Oh.
Adam It's, very weird.
Unknown Wow. Interesting.
Unknown Well, I'll say this,
Unknown I watched a movie today that, that was a Stephen King adaptation, 'The Dark Half'.
Unknown Which, I will say this, boys, this makes my list, this 100% makes my list of the top Stephen King movies, 'The Dark Half'.
Unknown And at the beginning, the, the main character who's an author is writing a story as a child called 'There Be Tigers' or whatever the name is.
Adam Oh, yeah, yeah, 'Here There Be Tigers'.
Adam Interesting.
Adam Little, little.
Unknown So that was probably the story that you're talking about.
Adam Interesting.
Adam And then Adam, other Adam, what is your background with Stephen King?
Unknown I've read 'Salem's Lot', which was quite the fucking like brick of a book to get through.
Adam Jeez.
Unknown I was probably, I don't know, probably 11.
Adam Still make sense.
Unknown Maybe 10, when Chris was reading them. Yeah, I was like 11 or 12 or whatever. So I read 'Salem's Lot'.
Unknown And I've read a couple of, I've read a couple of short stories, but that's about it.
Unknown The, the weird thing is, is, I read recently his short story 'The Lawnmower Man' because someone said, 'Oh, yeah, the film's nothing to do with, nothing like it.' If, if, if people haven't read it, it's fucking mad.
Unknown It's wrath.
Unknown It's absolute fucking madness.
Unknown Basically, a guy.
Unknown Yeah, a guy comes around your house and he's possibly Pan and he he he's a landscape gardener and all he does is he just runs around in the nude on all fours.
Adam Why was that not part of the movie?
Adam That is, that is the story of 'The Lawnmower Man'.
Unknown Yeah.
Unknown I mean, I liked the story of, you know, like the character of Job in the movie and stuff, but it's not the book at all.
Adam Certainly not.
Unknown Does it even have Stephen King's name in that one?
Unknown Yeah. Like at the beginning, it's like based on.
Chris So, apparently, they told New Line because he was so not close to the book.
Unknown He was so Steve.
Unknown Did he did he sue Kubrick?
Adam No. We'll talk about that later.
Adam That was a paycheck.
Adam yeah, I mean, if there's any kind of license, like if, if they're going to adapt a Stephen King story in the even the most remote, you know, stretch of a way, they're going to put his name on there to get, get people in the seats, I think.
Unknown Cash. Cash flow.
Adam okay, well, what was the one you just mentioned there, Crud Rood Dude, 'The Dark Half'?
Unknown Yeah, I'll start.
Adam You want to start with that one?
Unknown I'm going to start with 'The Dark Half'.
Unknown I was going to, I was trying to think of like what are the best King movies, and I got to think of like who's made King movies because there are certain guys that have made a few of them, you know?
Unknown most notably Darabont and, George Romero.
Unknown So I was like, I was, I was trying to find 'Needful Things' to watch, but I couldn't find it online, but 'The Dark Half' was online, I was like, 'Oh shit, I should watch that'.
Unknown 'The Dark Half', directed by George A. Romero, 1993, I think, and I did see this shit in the theater when I come out, when it came out.
Unknown So, to kind of give y'all just the recap of what it is, is a writer, and he's going Richard Bachman style, right?
Unknown He has a pseudonym that he writes more graphical content. So he makes a whole to-do to kill off his other writer, right?
Unknown But when he was a kid, he had a brain tumor, but the brain tumor was actually like an absorbed twin.
Unknown So there's a great scene at the beginning where they're like doing brain surgery.
Unknown He's like an eyeball opening up at the kid's brain.
Adam Yeah.
Unknown So that thing comes back.
Adam Very Takashi Miike.
Adam And, you know, Masters of Horror.
Unknown Very George Romero in 1993.
Unknown So, the, the, the evil version of him comes back, starts killing people.
Unknown It's all played by Timothy Hutton, so he's like the main guy, but also the bad guy and the bad guy is so fucking great.
Unknown It ends with a dude getting eaten to death by birds and they're like slowly pecking away his body and it's all just beautiful, graphically horrifying, gory practical effects.
Unknown I almost went with 'Creepshow', you know, but I figured somebody else is going to say 'Creepshow' and people really need to watch 'The Dark Half'.
Unknown Like, this I recommend, Bobby, we need to watch this on the show because it's just that good a fucking movie.
Adam Yeah, I think I saw it probably in the 90s. It's none of this is ringing a bell though, but that sounds very intriguing.
Unknown Spectacular, as they say, somewhere.
Unknown Who has seen 'The Dark Half'?
Unknown Other than me and Bobby, maybe 20 years ago.
Adam nice hipster choice, Adam.
Unknown Nope.
Unknown It's how does.
Unknown I genuinely think I've seen it, but again, I can't remember it.
Unknown I think it must have looked when it came out.
Adam Yeah.
Unknown But if I know you guys, like I think I know you guys.
Unknown As in like you do a horror podcast, you all going to fucking love 'The Dark Half'.
Unknown Trust me, this is I hope this if nothing else the four other people on this line fucking watch that shit because you'll love it.
Adam And generally I think at least giving, I, I like non-zombie Romero is usually still fucking primo.
Unknown Well.
Unknown I've watched a lot of Romero and the shit that really stands out the most are his original trilogy of zombie movies and, his, his King stuff.
Unknown Like because 'Creepshow' is fucking spectacular, you know, and like 'Dark Half' is Two Evil Eyes is all right, but that's still not even like Romero at his best.
Unknown But when he has King to sink his teeth into, it's, it's some of the best shit that's out there, you know, in terms of King adaptations for sure.
Lee
Chris
Lee Excellent, definitely on my list now to watch.
Lee Although although someone did point out to me that it's the same plot as whichever I can't remember which anthology, 'Amicus Anthology' as you know where it's the Gentlemanlier and he's a writer and he keeps it and you strangle a Dominic in the country.
Unknown Well, some sometimes they come back. Yeah, I'm like, this is like a shittier version of the fucking 'Dark Half'.
Unknown Like I, I, I, King might regurgitate his ideas.
Unknown but you know, I mean, the guy's make a very good living out of it.
Unknown They based 'Satyr Cane' on the guy. You got to give him credit for that, you know.
Adam No, let's not get carried away here, Adam.
Adam You read 'Satyr Cane'.
Unknown Sorry.
Adam Today is Mommy's Day.
Adam
Unknown Who's next? Who's up?
Adam Well, I I was just, yeah, go ahead, Adam.
Unknown I'm I'm I was just going to pause it there.
Unknown Can I just say that your, Adam, your 'You read 'Satyr Cane'' is fantastic.
Unknown Thank you.
Unknown But also listening to the last episode, Bobby, what some two, buddies, the gawk.
Adam Not Sub-Two, buddy.
Unknown It's great.
Unknown We should just, Bobby, what this is telling me is we need to adapt 'The Maste and the Madness' for the stage.
Unknown And we need to start it.
Adam That sounds incredibly work-intensive.
Unknown That's.
Unknown It does seem like a lot, but imagine what you could do with the budget in some like construction paper.
Unknown I don't know how they do theater.
Unknown But we can make some love crappy theater.
Adam Construction paper. Spirit gum and construction paper.
Unknown I've been to a theater production once or twice.
Adam All right, let's get the other Adam out of the way. What's your number three, I guess?
Unknown Well, back to what you were saying about sort of not necessarily nostalgia or something like that, but just the sort of connection of when you saw something.
Unknown So, my first one, and sorry to say, I think it it may not be everyone's favorite, but I think I've got to go with 'The Dead Zone'.
Unknown Because it was the first Stephen King film that I saw.
Adam It was hard for me not to make that my number one because I figured someone would.
Unknown I intentionally kept 'The Shining' and 'The Dead Zone' off of my list because I'm like, they're going to, somebody else is going to bring them up because they're just fucking excellent, excellent film.
Adam And, little teaser for later, remind me guys, I want to hear Lee's, take on 'The Shining'.
Unknown Hey. I'm interested to hear that too.
Unknown You won't, you won't need to remind us.
Unknown Just mention it.
Chris So I I don't think I'll know much about 'The Dead Zone'.
Unknown Well, 'Dead Zone', it might, I'm not sure, I think 'The Fly' was the first David Cronenberg film I saw, but I'm pretty certain this is definitely the first Stephen King film I saw.
Unknown And there was like, I think it was Channel 4 had shown the mini series of 'It'.
Unknown Then they showed the mini series of 'Golden Years' which stuck in my head more because they had the Bowie song on the advert.
Unknown And then they just decided to do some, just show some Stephen King films and everything else like that.
Unknown And I think, I can't remember what it was, but 'The Dead Zone' and then a couple of weeks later was when I first saw 'Carrie'.
Chris
Unknown And, yeah, and, you know, both, both brilliant.
Unknown But yeah, 'The Dead Zone', I rewatched it the other day, it's just so fucking cold, sounds so obvious, but it's clinical.
Adam Oh yeah.
Unknown You know, it's because it's David Cronenberg, but it just is it's like reading the doctor's notes on what happened.
Unknown It just feels like so fucking real, you know?
Unknown It's like you're reading Herbert Lom's journal, you know, when you just fucking hell, this is dispassionate but fucking massive, tragic and horrible thing.
Chris And I'm assuming Christopher Walken is a good choice.
Adam He's never a bad choice.
Unknown Oh, fuck yeah, he's amazing.
Adam He could play Buttercup and he'd be amazing.
Unknown But it also also.
Unknown I'd watch that.
Unknown Yeah, I'd watch that.
Unknown Also Martin Sheen as President Stills.
Adam The president.
Unknown Oh my God, just such just brilliantly a fucker. Just, you know, it's just can't stick the prick and he's like, well done, Martin, because I like you, Martin, but well done because I fucking hate you as this guy.
Unknown And, yeah.
Unknown And I do, I do remember, I mean, a few years back because it's always been a connection of Cronenberg films with, me and, Lee's brother Dean, when when Trump won the election, I did just message him, 'The missiles are flying. Hallelujah'.
Adam He did.
Unknown Because it was just, you know.
Adam And I knew, was that Cronenberg's kind of first big budget property to, oh, trying to. No.
Adam I'm looking at it now.
Chris Yeah, I think I don't know.
Chris I think it was.
Adam Were were they getting, you know, they gave him some like, like a story that has some, you know, budget and actors and, I don't know.
Unknown I mean, he'd already made 'Scanners', you know.
Unknown And.
Adam Yeah.
Adam Okay.
Unknown Yeah, 'Scanners' was before 'Dead Zone'.
Unknown Right.
Unknown I think this was the first he was given money to make stuff.
Adam Yeah.
Unknown I mean, it was a big deal.
Unknown And he did a great job on it.
Unknown But it it it when you what you said there, like, the fact that it feels like the clinical notes of it, that makes total sense.
Unknown That's like totally Cronenberg, like all of it, right? Like, 'The Brood', 'Scanners', 'The Fly', like all of it, you know?
Lee Yeah.
Adam Even that description is body horror, so.
Unknown All of them.
Lee Yeah.
Lee Yeah, that that combination of him and King has just.
Unknown The thing about 'Dead Zone' is like.
Unknown It may it was it was made the same year as 'Videodrome' and 'Videodrome' feels 100% like this is David Cronenberg.
Unknown Where 'The Dead Zone' feels like a totally different movie, totally different vibe of movie, right?
Unknown Which is him taking on King, but it's it's fucking beautiful.
Adam Yeah.
Adam Yeah, yeah.
Adam Because that was like the 'Holy Quadrilogy' or well, what what's five, what's five, what would be that?
Unknown Dude, that's not a thing.
Unknown What are you doing?
Adam No, I'm just saying like, like this is a hell of a a run here, 'The Brood', 'Scanners', 'Videodrome', 'Dead Zone', 'The Fly', like all in a row. Like that's fucking pretty.
Unknown But then he did 'Dead Ringers' and 'Naked Lunch'.
Adam Yeah, yeah.
Unknown I mean, he didn't stop, you know, he kept on going.
Adam He has some.
Unknown He didn't stop.
Unknown He does a lot of book adaptions, you forget it, but it's like, you know, because obviously there's this, 'Naked Lunch' and, yeah, just loads of stuff that is not his necessarily his stories.
Adam Yeah, Cronenberg's very dynamic.
Adam He doesn't he he'd do more than just body horror, but I think that's what he's, yeah.
Unknown So I have a question.
Unknown You made it sound, Adam, as if there was a certain time where all of a sudden in England, they started showing all this Stephen King stuff.
Unknown And like we were spoiled over here with all of it the whole time, like, is that kind of what you're saying?
Unknown Like all of a sudden, like, okay, BBC is going to show all these fucking things now that you'll never get a chance. You Chris said that too, like you never get a chance to see before.
Unknown They were basically Stephen King's following over here was pretty much on video, certainly in like, you know, it was people had read him and, you know, but the videos were what you saw it.
Unknown And in that initial eight years, I was probably too young to get any of that access to any of those.
Unknown And then, yeah, it would have been sort of late.
Unknown It was it was basically, it was like I say, it was definitely when they'd done 'It' and 'Golden Years' and they were like, oh, these are these are really successful.
Unknown So we'll import them over and then we're like, and we could show loads of his films as like films and was like, and they just, yeah, suddenly it was like, oh, we're doing a Stephen King season.
Unknown And, and yeah, I mean, and the thing what I think there was, you know, there there was loads of stuff in there, you know, there was, that was that the first time I saw 'The Shining'?
Unknown Probably.
Unknown So it was just this weird, but the weird thing was, I hadn't watched 'It'.
Unknown Because 'It' was kind of like, as I'm sitting there, I'm like.
Adam Yeah, you know.
Adam Okay.
Unknown Yeah.
Unknown And you were.
Unknown Yeah, and then somehow, I think it was it was obviously just like, maybe it was a year later or whatever like that.
Unknown But then it was like, oh, great, they're showing all these. They didn't repeat 'It'.
Unknown I probably would have watched it then, but yeah.
Unknown But there are still, I've so it was from that little season, but I've still got like 'Sleepwalkers' and 'Pet Cemetery'.
Adam Oh, the movie?
Chris The original.
Adam Oh, wow.
Unknown In any any version of 'Pet Cemetery'.
Adam Hey, what did the guy say about him?
Adam He's really getting up there.
Adam It's, what's his name from 'The Munsters',
Adam I almost said Fred Ward, but that would work too for some reason.
Unknown Fred Gwynn.
Unknown Fred Ward's, yeah.
Unknown It's.
Unknown It's Herman Munster.
Adam He's really getting up there and then it's just an innocent old man making the observation that a kite is really getting up there and then a child, the child from 'Kindergarten Cop' gets hit by an 18-wheeler big rig on a, on a country road.
Adam That is 'Pet', that's the story of 'Pet Cemetery'.
Adam it's a good one, it's a good one.
Adam I got a,
Adam I got my first contrarian unpopular opinion pick of the episode.
Unknown You mean all?
Adam I feel like I'm in safe company already to bring this up.
Adam Again, this these are more autobiographical than they are quality.
Adam but this was one of the first times I got over the self-consciousness of going to the movies by myself and not feeling like I need to, you know, have a friend with me or something.
Adam I'm just like, whatever, I don't care, you know, I'm just going to go to a movie.
Unknown You need to have friends to do that in the first place, Bobby.
Adam I know, right?
Adam The internet wasn't around yet.
Adam
Adam But actually it was, it was 2003, Lawrence Kasdan directed, hell of a cast, 'Dreamcatcher'.
Adam Okay?
Unknown 'Dreamcatcher'. Wow. Interesting choice.
Adam This movie is panned by most people.
Chris Yeah.
Adam Understandably, mind you.
Adam Okay, it's not a quality film.
Adam However, it has.
Unknown But it makes your list.
Adam It has the, the sum of its parts are not quality, but the parts are quality, okay, if that makes sense.
Adam Okay.
Chris No, this doesn't say this, but I've never heard of this.
Unknown Okay.
Adam Don't go bad.
Adam I am 50. It's got Tom Sizemore in it.
Unknown It's got Tom Sizemore, right?
Adam Tom Sizemore, listen to this cast.
Adam Lawrence Kasdan directed, first off.
Adam The cast is.
Adam Tom Sizemore.
Adam Morgan Freeman.
Adam Stephen King regular, Thomas Motherfucking Jane.
Adam 2003 era, Jason Lee.
Adam the fake, who I call him the fake Bill Paxton, Timothy Olyphant.
Adam and, and not Mark, but Donnie Wahlberg as in the New Kids on the Block, playing a bald, retarded boy alien with psychic abilities.
Adam Now.
Unknown Whoa.
Adam Now, this all sounds bad on paper.
Unknown No, it does.
Adam No, it does.
Adam No, here's the thing with 'Dreamcatcher'.
Adam I, I am 50% convinced that Stephen King had access to AI before anyone else and they just shoved all Stephen King's stories into an AI and it spit out 'Dreamcatcher'.
Adam Because it has your, it has kind of your ensemble, it's, and then you have Lawrence Kasdan who wrote 'The Big Chill', I believe.
Adam It feels like 'The Big Chill' meets 'The Blob' meets, there was something else I thought of earlier, anyway.
Adam It's a weird fucking movie and it's about a group of guys getting the band back together, getting the old crew back together, they go on their yearly vacation.
Adam Turns out their childhood friend who turned out to be an alien, played by Donnie Wahlberg, gave them special psychic powers when they were children.
Adam Not knowing why, they just kind of used it.
Adam They just kind of used it to their advantage through life and then all of a sudden they're at this cabin in the woods and, and there's an evil alien presence that has, kind of taken over the vicinity of those woods.
Adam And it is not good.
Adam But.
Unknown Why, why, how did this make the list?
Adam Because I love.
Adam Damian Lewis playing Jonesy in this movie is incredible.
Adam All the flashback scenes with the, I call him Kiefer Sutherland bully scenes, even though Kiefer Sutherland's not in this movie.
Adam Kiefer Sutherland Stephen King bully scenes, you got that in there.
Adam and then you have like Morgan Freeman playing the kind of like government agent that's blocking off the corridor of the area so that the alien presence doesn't escape, but he's he's doing his job, but it's also like, we're Americans, you can't do this to us.
Adam It's that whole thing.
Adam it's.
Adam It's definitely worth watching.
Adam Not a great movie, but my top, in my top three.
Adam Thank you.
Lee I enjoy it. I feel exactly the same, like it it.
Lee It's too weird and there's too much crammed in and it's very much a film of two halves, but it's a great hangover movie.
Lee If you want something to just put and just occasionally you sort of nod off and you wake up.
Adam Let me put it.
Lee What the fuck is happening.
Adam I saw it in the theater by myself, had a great time alone.
Adam One of the best times I've had alone in a long time watching.
Unknown How was this before, this was before you could drink.
Adam Yeah, yeah, I was like, I was like 20.
Adam but and then here's what it is, it's the perfect, we used to have, they don't really sell DVDs anymore, but at Walmart they have this big giant bin of unorganized DVDs.
Adam That go for $5 back in 2003 and 'Dreamcatcher' was always in there and, I was like, I saw this in the theater, I enjoyed what I saw and I still have the, the $5.
Adam It's the, the cardboard opening box, shitty.
Lee Yeah, yeah.
Lee I've got that version too.
Lee I don't I don't think they ever made it on a proper. No one was asking for it.
Adam No one.
Lee It was always just been an A4 paper envelope.
Adam But I I just think I mean, as as not great as it is, it's weird that it exists and it's not as bad as people say it is, so I will double down on the hipster contrarian bullshit.
Unknown Yeah, yeah, yeah. You won, Bobby. You won. Well, let's see what Lee and Chris have to say, but I think you won on shitty.
Unknown Fucking random.
Adam Don't talk to me until you've seen it, Adam.
Unknown I'll watch 'The Dark Half'. I'll watch the fucking 'Crow' again.
Adam No, it has Jason Lee.
Adam Yeah.
Adam It has.
Adam No, it has Jason Lee.
Adam In, in the era of 'My Name is Earl'.
Unknown Isn't Damian Lewis basically just like Richard Atherton or that other guy?
Adam You shut your goddamn mouth right now.
Unknown He's like the same guy.
Unknown It's the same fucking guy.
Adam Damian Lewis in this movie does the whole skitzo thing where someone, he's having a conversation with the alien possessed in his own head while he's riding a motorcycle and it was that scene where I was like, or not a motorcycle, a snowmobile.
Adam He's on a snowmobile and he's going crazy and talking back and forth to himself on a snowmobile.
Adam One, two different characters, one actor.
Adam It's, it's fucking wonderful cinema.
Unknown All right, all right.
Unknown I'll watch it.
Unknown I'll watch it.
Adam Well, don't, if you're disappointed, don't come after me.
Unknown No.
Lee Sounds like.
Unknown No.
Lee It's what.
Adam I think Lee put it perfectly, it's a good hangover movie.
Adam You don't really have to pay attention to it, but it's very.
Adam Oh, we're real quick, while we're on the topic, it has shitworms in it.
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