WTE - We Three Kings
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And we’re back like a vertebrae! Two worlds collide and we present “Welcome To Everyone: We Three Kings”. The Not For Everyone and Welcome To Horror podcasts have teamed up again for what the cool kids are definitely still calling the most ambitious crossover event in history. It’s Christmas; so we bring you “We Three Kings”- where we each choose our top 3 Stephen King adaptations. Between double-thinking each other’s lists and a few participants wilfully ignoring the assignment, this is a truly eclectic selection of the King on screen. A Christmas present from the people who brought you the unique podcast idea of squabbling man children talking about films. Enjoy.
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AdamEight martinis are working just fine for warming me up.
ChrisThat does a trick too.
AdamGoddamn right.
AdamAll right, ready?
LeeI thought we were already going.
AdamWhat are we ready for?
LeeAll right, Snobby Bobby.
AdamAll right, it's time for our semi-annual welcome to everyone.
AdamWe've done this probably three or four times now.
ChrisWhat d'you think?
LeeWhat d'you think, Snobby Bobby?
UnknownSnobby Bobby.
Adambut yeah, we, we combined forces yet again for a Christmas holiday special, themed 'We Three Kings'. Is that what we went with?
LeeYeah.
ChrisYeah, yeah, we'll go with that.
LeeYeah, that's a good title.
AdamOkay, well, my name is Snobby Bobby. I got the Crud Rood Dude with me, on his, on his work telemarketing headset.
AdamWhich, is that tax write-offable for the, for the podcast?
LeeMulti-use, multi-function, folks.
AdamAnd then, why don't we go around the old Mulberry Bush here and introduce the, Welcome to Horror guys.
LeeHey, I'm here. I'm Lee from Welcome to Horror. Hey.
ChrisAnd I'm Chris from Welcome to Horror.
UnknownAnd I am Adam from Welcome to Horror.
AdamHe's our, is that resident Vincent Price?
AdamAnd Roger Corman?
ChrisHe hasn't done as many different voices lately.
LeeHe doesn't do that. He doesn't do that shit for us. He pulls out all the stops for you guys.
AdamHe You have to ask.
LeeWell, he doesn't tell us either, so I'm listening to one of your episodes and I'm like, 'Roger... Hang on a minute.'
AdamI don't even tell, I don't even tell Adam or Austin whenever we add those. I just keep it. It's me and Adam's, Adam, not Crud Rood Dude, other Adam's, special little secrets.
LeeThat's how Bobby checks to see if I'm even listening to the episodes, is if I know these things that he sneaks in that I wouldn't have had no prior knowledge to.
AdamIsn't that a really good impression that I did, Adam?
UnknownI'm like, I know this one you, Bobby.
ChrisYou're just going to throw traps straight for you as well.
LeeSay that again?
ChrisJust see if you can catch people out.
AdamYeah, yeah.
AdamAll right, so, tonight, I guess, we're going to just talk about I don't, there's no real rules here. The, the theme is our personal top three Stephen King adaptations, like film or or, or sketch, I guess, or anthology adaptation stories.
AdamCrud Rood Dude, are you still with me? I, I can't tell.
UnknownI'm here.
AdamOkay.
UnknownCrud Rood Dude is here.
AdamFor those of you at home that are just listening, the camera is on the floor and I see this ominous silhouette, blurry silhouette.
UnknownIt's on the counter. It's on my kitchen counter.
AdamI'm just waiting for you to spit on your phone.
ChrisIt does a pretty good job of focusing on you every so often.
AdamYeah. We need to get some, we need some 3D, 3D glasses.
ChrisIt kind of gives you the same look as that view from out of like the trunk of a car.
UnknownYeah, yeah, that's what I'm going for.
LeeI was going to say, for a new.
AdamIt's P.O.V. Goodfellas right here.
UnknownThis is how the ladies look at me.
Adam
UnknownYeah, yeah, so I'm here. I'm here.
UnknownAnd the thing about the Stephen King, like, look, I went through a a list online, I'm like, let me actually like look up all the goddamn adaptations.
UnknownAnd if we're just talking movies, that's like a list as long as your arm.
UnknownAnd then if you start talking about TV movies, not even counting the movies themselves, there's your other arm, you know what I mean?
UnknownThere's just so much media of Stephen King shit.
UnknownAnd it's not all good.
UnknownBut some of it is really, really, really great.
AdamI like to jerk myself off with both arms when it comes to Stephen King.
UnknownAnd you can. You really can.
UnknownYou absolutely have that with Stephen King.
AdamAnd I think he does too, to be honest.
AdamUnless a more talented filmmaker adapts one of his films and then it's like just, you know, he's flaccid.
UnknownAm I am I correct in assuming that the only movie he directed was 'Maximum Overdrive'?
UnknownI mean, did it?
UnknownDid it do so bad that I mean, it's a great movie.
UnknownMy kid is in, he's enrapt in it right now. He is in this thing. Thumbs up. Give me a thumbs up right now.
UnknownSo he's over there watching this movie because it's badass. I saw it when I was like seven years old. It's great.
ChrisIsn't it like insane?
UnknownIt's insane. It's insane.
ChrisNo, I've I've only seen it once. I did want to watch it for this, but I didn't manage to.
LeeYou should definitely seen it more. It's one of Lady Jennifer's all-time favorite terrible movies.
ChrisThat's it. I seem to remember it was her and Sharon showed it to me. It was like, you've got to watch this.
ChrisBut I I'd no I I did not know it was Stephen King. I did not know that.
AdamUntil until I saw this list that both of you have 'Maximum Overdrive' as their number three.
AdamInteresting.
AdamSo let's start with that as an honorable mention.
ChrisOh.
UnknownHonorable mention, honorable mention.
AdamThat's how segway.
UnknownStephen King's top three. My son's top three, he's definitely screaming that this is an amazing movie. So.
AdamNow, is your child named after Stephen King?
UnknownI tell him he's named after Stephen King. I also tell him he's named after Burger King and the King of Siam and he didn't believe any of it.
Unknownso, yeah, he is. He doesn't believe some of them.
UnknownBut, he is definitely named after Stephen King, 100%. That's it.
AdamSo, real quick, before we jump into our, our picks for this very special Welcome to Everyone episode.
Adamlet's just go around, does everyone here, I mean, are you guys really just what's your kind of relationship with Stephen King as far as his, is everyone read a handful of his books or are we all just kind of exposed to the movies? How does that work?
LeeI have to admit I have never read a Stephen King book.
LeeI've seen quite a lot of his adaptations. I've watched some new stuff, well, not some new, I've watched some stuff I hadn't seen for a very long time for this episode, but in a slightly different way because I knew we were all going to go for the same ones.
LeeI went to the other end of the list, and I went with the worst of his adaptations that I could get my hands on.
ChrisWhich I've come to realize that they're some of those are the best.
UnknownWinning that mentality and like nobody's going to mention the fucking 'Dead Zone', you know?
AdamHere's, this is, I'm going to throw this out there.
AdamMy list is not going to be the seminal classic adaptations of Stephen King.
AdamI went very autobiographical as to what is not necessarily a great film, but something that really means something to me.
AdamSo that's the angle I'm taking.
UnknownSometimes they come back.
AdamYou love that shit.
AdamI love 'Sleepwalkers'.
UnknownYeah, yeah.
UnknownIt means a lot to us.
AdamThat's why I'm a furry today.
ChrisSo that has been one of the big surprises for me, 'Sleepwalkers'.
ChrisI cannot believe that was not mentioned first and foremost of this.
Unknown
AdamThe great Mick Garris, 'Sleepwalkers' where the cat boy fucks his cat mom and,
AdamAll right.
UnknownThat's the one.
AdamThat's the one. Every time I hear that, what is it, Johnny and Santos song, what I forgot, the, the guitar, the sleep, the song 'Sleepwalker'. Every time I hear that now, I just think of cat fucking, and I love that. It's a classic, you know, instrumental guitar piece, but now it's just like, nope, cats having sex, humanoid cats, incestuous humanoid cat sex.
ChrisIt's like, it's like.
UnknownYeah, yeah. What was it? Q Lazarus.
Chris'Goodbye Horses'.
LeeNo, no matter what.
AdamWas was that a song, was that like a popular song before 'Silence of the Lambs'?
UnknownIt was a song before. I don't know if it was a popular song.
AdamOkay, it was a it was out.
AdamI only know it from that. I, I worry that like Johnny and Santo are rolling in their grave because now whenever everybody hears the fucking badass sleepwalking guitar, they think about cat fucking.
AdamNo, not everybody, just me and you and maybe some other people on this call.
AdamNot everybody. We haven't tainted the good name of that, that track.
ChrisYeah.
UnknownYeah, yeah.
ChrisAnyone who's seen that movie.
ChrisThat's the thing. It's it's it's done the Tarantino trick of like just imprinting that on that song. That's what I.
AdamThat's what Mick Garris does. Mick Garris destroys great songs.
UnknownYeah. That movie's fucking terrible.
UnknownHey, I love Mick Garris. I don't love that movie though.
UnknownCome on, Mick. What are you thinking?
UnknownAll right, have we talked about any movies that are on anybody's list yet?
AdamNo, we got to get the, the, intro banter out of the way here.
UnknownOkay.
AdamOkay, so, real quick, I, I just want to say, I am not a avid reader of Stephen King.
AdamI've done a lot of his short stories, 'Skeleton Crew' I read when I was a kid, 'The Long Walk' which I highly recommend, 'The Girl Who Loved Tom Gordon' which is a book about a girl being lost in the woods, it's about two, 300 pages and it's just like, how does he write entertaining literature just about being lost in the woods and it's fucking incredible.
Adamand then I started listening to 'It', the, the audio book of 'It' when 'It' phenomenon came back a few years ago with the movies.
AdamI was like, I should probably just knock out this book. I've only really seen the Tim Curry version.
Adamand it's just like, did it have to be like 1,600 pages? I don't think it did. I don't think it needed to be that long.
AdamSo, I got about maybe two-thirds of the way done, I'm like, I think.
UnknownWell, they got to, they got to fit the child orgy in there somewhere, you know?
AdamWell, that is important. That is an important.
UnknownSo, there's nobody, there's nobody knows that that's a huge bit in the fucking book of 'It'?
AdamI think everybody knows that now because they're listening to us.
UnknownIs it time to go after, has it been titled?
ChrisSo, what, so I thought, like, so I read some of his books, but I was probably 12. And now I'm wondering, did we just skip most of the books because it was like me and a few other friends and just read some of the scenes because there's a lot I don't remember from.
ChrisFrom 'It' and that being one of them.
ChrisFor, yeah, from 'It', definitely that and, and I'm sure I read 'The Stand' and maybe 'Dark Half' and 'Pet Cemetery'.
AdamI thought you were the guy that would like accuse like noodle horror, but you're the one rattling off like.
AdamOkay.
ChrisNo, no, but so, so we, we got hold of the books. We were able to read the books, but we couldn't watch the films until later.
ChrisSo we were all reading the books going like, these are amazing.
ChrisAnd then, yeah, a few years later, like, so 'Pet Cemetery' was one that I did see.
Christhe 'Dark Half'.
UnknownOh.
Chris
AdamSorry.
ChrisYeah.
Chrisyeah, so so I did, as far as I know, I did read some of them.
AdamYou're a bigger reader than you give yourself credit for.
UnknownYeah, yeah, yeah. I read a lot of Stephen King back in the day.
Unknownmainly the kind of shit you're saying, like, all the short stories and stuff, that's my, that's my jam when you can make a complete story in 20 pages that it keeps my attention, right?
UnknownBut I did read, you know, the child orgy 'It' and, 'The Stand' and.
AdamJust that part.
UnknownYeah, that's just you go to what, what your interests are.
UnknownNo, I read some of them back in the day and they were, they were decent.
UnknownI don't read so much anymore.
UnknownI mean, if they were going to make it in like a, put pictures in it, if they're going to make a movie of it, I mean, I'll watch it.
AdamThe one one, the one I, that stands out to me, I, I wish there was a at least some sort of 'Creepshow' kind of thing, vignette about it.
AdamBut there's one called 'Here There Be Tigers' in, I think, 'The Skeleton Crew' about a boy that wants to go to the bathroom really bad in his elementary school, but there's a actual little, literal tiger inside the bathroom.
UnknownOh.
AdamIt's, very weird.
UnknownWow. Interesting.
UnknownWell, I'll say this,
UnknownI watched a movie today that, that was a Stephen King adaptation, 'The Dark Half'.
UnknownWhich, I will say this, boys, this makes my list, this 100% makes my list of the top Stephen King movies, 'The Dark Half'.
UnknownAnd at the beginning, the, the main character who's an author is writing a story as a child called 'There Be Tigers' or whatever the name is.
AdamOh, yeah, yeah, 'Here There Be Tigers'.
AdamInteresting.
AdamLittle, little.
UnknownSo that was probably the story that you're talking about.
AdamInteresting.
AdamAnd then Adam, other Adam, what is your background with Stephen King?
UnknownI've read 'Salem's Lot', which was quite the fucking like brick of a book to get through.
AdamJeez.
UnknownI was probably, I don't know, probably 11.
AdamStill make sense.
UnknownMaybe 10, when Chris was reading them. Yeah, I was like 11 or 12 or whatever. So I read 'Salem's Lot'.
UnknownAnd I've read a couple of, I've read a couple of short stories, but that's about it.
UnknownThe, the weird thing is, is, I read recently his short story 'The Lawnmower Man' because someone said, 'Oh, yeah, the film's nothing to do with, nothing like it.' If, if, if people haven't read it, it's fucking mad.
UnknownIt's wrath.
UnknownIt's absolute fucking madness.
UnknownBasically, a guy.
UnknownYeah, a guy comes around your house and he's possibly Pan and he he he's a landscape gardener and all he does is he just runs around in the nude on all fours.
AdamWhy was that not part of the movie?
AdamThat is, that is the story of 'The Lawnmower Man'.
UnknownYeah.
UnknownI mean, I liked the story of, you know, like the character of Job in the movie and stuff, but it's not the book at all.
AdamCertainly not.
UnknownDoes it even have Stephen King's name in that one?
UnknownYeah. Like at the beginning, it's like based on.
ChrisSo, apparently, they told New Line because he was so not close to the book.
UnknownHe was so Steve.
UnknownDid he did he sue Kubrick?
AdamNo. We'll talk about that later.
AdamThat was a paycheck.
Adamyeah, I mean, if there's any kind of license, like if, if they're going to adapt a Stephen King story in the even the most remote, you know, stretch of a way, they're going to put his name on there to get, get people in the seats, I think.
UnknownCash. Cash flow.
Adamokay, well, what was the one you just mentioned there, Crud Rood Dude, 'The Dark Half'?
UnknownYeah, I'll start.
AdamYou want to start with that one?
UnknownI'm going to start with 'The Dark Half'.
UnknownI was going to, I was trying to think of like what are the best King movies, and I got to think of like who's made King movies because there are certain guys that have made a few of them, you know?
Unknownmost notably Darabont and, George Romero.
UnknownSo I was like, I was, I was trying to find 'Needful Things' to watch, but I couldn't find it online, but 'The Dark Half' was online, I was like, 'Oh shit, I should watch that'.
Unknown'The Dark Half', directed by George A. Romero, 1993, I think, and I did see this shit in the theater when I come out, when it came out.
UnknownSo, to kind of give y'all just the recap of what it is, is a writer, and he's going Richard Bachman style, right?
UnknownHe has a pseudonym that he writes more graphical content. So he makes a whole to-do to kill off his other writer, right?
UnknownBut when he was a kid, he had a brain tumor, but the brain tumor was actually like an absorbed twin.
UnknownSo there's a great scene at the beginning where they're like doing brain surgery.
UnknownHe's like an eyeball opening up at the kid's brain.
AdamYeah.
UnknownSo that thing comes back.
AdamVery Takashi Miike.
AdamAnd, you know, Masters of Horror.
UnknownVery George Romero in 1993.
UnknownSo, the, the, the evil version of him comes back, starts killing people.
UnknownIt's all played by Timothy Hutton, so he's like the main guy, but also the bad guy and the bad guy is so fucking great.
UnknownIt ends with a dude getting eaten to death by birds and they're like slowly pecking away his body and it's all just beautiful, graphically horrifying, gory practical effects.
UnknownI almost went with 'Creepshow', you know, but I figured somebody else is going to say 'Creepshow' and people really need to watch 'The Dark Half'.
UnknownLike, this I recommend, Bobby, we need to watch this on the show because it's just that good a fucking movie.
AdamYeah, I think I saw it probably in the 90s. It's none of this is ringing a bell though, but that sounds very intriguing.
UnknownSpectacular, as they say, somewhere.
UnknownWho has seen 'The Dark Half'?
UnknownOther than me and Bobby, maybe 20 years ago.
Adamnice hipster choice, Adam.
UnknownNope.
UnknownIt's how does.
UnknownI genuinely think I've seen it, but again, I can't remember it.
UnknownI think it must have looked when it came out.
AdamYeah.
UnknownBut if I know you guys, like I think I know you guys.
UnknownAs in like you do a horror podcast, you all going to fucking love 'The Dark Half'.
UnknownTrust me, this is I hope this if nothing else the four other people on this line fucking watch that shit because you'll love it.
AdamAnd generally I think at least giving, I, I like non-zombie Romero is usually still fucking primo.
UnknownWell.
UnknownI've watched a lot of Romero and the shit that really stands out the most are his original trilogy of zombie movies and, his, his King stuff.
UnknownLike because 'Creepshow' is fucking spectacular, you know, and like 'Dark Half' is Two Evil Eyes is all right, but that's still not even like Romero at his best.
UnknownBut when he has King to sink his teeth into, it's, it's some of the best shit that's out there, you know, in terms of King adaptations for sure.
Lee
Chris
LeeExcellent, definitely on my list now to watch.
LeeAlthough although someone did point out to me that it's the same plot as whichever I can't remember which anthology, 'Amicus Anthology' as you know where it's the Gentlemanlier and he's a writer and he keeps it and you strangle a Dominic in the country.
UnknownWell, some sometimes they come back. Yeah, I'm like, this is like a shittier version of the fucking 'Dark Half'.
UnknownLike I, I, I, King might regurgitate his ideas.
Unknownbut you know, I mean, the guy's make a very good living out of it.
UnknownThey based 'Satyr Cane' on the guy. You got to give him credit for that, you know.
AdamNo, let's not get carried away here, Adam.
AdamYou read 'Satyr Cane'.
UnknownSorry.
AdamToday is Mommy's Day.
Adam
UnknownWho's next? Who's up?
AdamWell, I I was just, yeah, go ahead, Adam.
UnknownI'm I'm I was just going to pause it there.
UnknownCan I just say that your, Adam, your 'You read 'Satyr Cane'' is fantastic.
UnknownThank you.
UnknownBut also listening to the last episode, Bobby, what some two, buddies, the gawk.
AdamNot Sub-Two, buddy.
UnknownIt's great.
UnknownWe should just, Bobby, what this is telling me is we need to adapt 'The Maste and the Madness' for the stage.
UnknownAnd we need to start it.
AdamThat sounds incredibly work-intensive.
UnknownThat's.
UnknownIt does seem like a lot, but imagine what you could do with the budget in some like construction paper.
UnknownI don't know how they do theater.
UnknownBut we can make some love crappy theater.
AdamConstruction paper. Spirit gum and construction paper.
UnknownI've been to a theater production once or twice.
AdamAll right, let's get the other Adam out of the way. What's your number three, I guess?
UnknownWell, back to what you were saying about sort of not necessarily nostalgia or something like that, but just the sort of connection of when you saw something.
UnknownSo, my first one, and sorry to say, I think it it may not be everyone's favorite, but I think I've got to go with 'The Dead Zone'.
UnknownBecause it was the first Stephen King film that I saw.
AdamIt was hard for me not to make that my number one because I figured someone would.
UnknownI intentionally kept 'The Shining' and 'The Dead Zone' off of my list because I'm like, they're going to, somebody else is going to bring them up because they're just fucking excellent, excellent film.
AdamAnd, little teaser for later, remind me guys, I want to hear Lee's, take on 'The Shining'.
UnknownHey. I'm interested to hear that too.
UnknownYou won't, you won't need to remind us.
UnknownJust mention it.
ChrisSo I I don't think I'll know much about 'The Dead Zone'.
UnknownWell, 'Dead Zone', it might, I'm not sure, I think 'The Fly' was the first David Cronenberg film I saw, but I'm pretty certain this is definitely the first Stephen King film I saw.
UnknownAnd there was like, I think it was Channel 4 had shown the mini series of 'It'.
UnknownThen they showed the mini series of 'Golden Years' which stuck in my head more because they had the Bowie song on the advert.
UnknownAnd then they just decided to do some, just show some Stephen King films and everything else like that.
UnknownAnd I think, I can't remember what it was, but 'The Dead Zone' and then a couple of weeks later was when I first saw 'Carrie'.
Chris
UnknownAnd, yeah, and, you know, both, both brilliant.
UnknownBut yeah, 'The Dead Zone', I rewatched it the other day, it's just so fucking cold, sounds so obvious, but it's clinical.
AdamOh yeah.
UnknownYou know, it's because it's David Cronenberg, but it just is it's like reading the doctor's notes on what happened.
UnknownIt just feels like so fucking real, you know?
UnknownIt's like you're reading Herbert Lom's journal, you know, when you just fucking hell, this is dispassionate but fucking massive, tragic and horrible thing.
ChrisAnd I'm assuming Christopher Walken is a good choice.
AdamHe's never a bad choice.
UnknownOh, fuck yeah, he's amazing.
AdamHe could play Buttercup and he'd be amazing.
UnknownBut it also also.
UnknownI'd watch that.
UnknownYeah, I'd watch that.
UnknownAlso Martin Sheen as President Stills.
AdamThe president.
UnknownOh my God, just such just brilliantly a fucker. Just, you know, it's just can't stick the prick and he's like, well done, Martin, because I like you, Martin, but well done because I fucking hate you as this guy.
UnknownAnd, yeah.
UnknownAnd I do, I do remember, I mean, a few years back because it's always been a connection of Cronenberg films with, me and, Lee's brother Dean, when when Trump won the election, I did just message him, 'The missiles are flying. Hallelujah'.
AdamHe did.
UnknownBecause it was just, you know.
AdamAnd I knew, was that Cronenberg's kind of first big budget property to, oh, trying to. No.
AdamI'm looking at it now.
ChrisYeah, I think I don't know.
ChrisI think it was.
AdamWere were they getting, you know, they gave him some like, like a story that has some, you know, budget and actors and, I don't know.
UnknownI mean, he'd already made 'Scanners', you know.
UnknownAnd.
AdamYeah.
AdamOkay.
UnknownYeah, 'Scanners' was before 'Dead Zone'.
UnknownRight.
UnknownI think this was the first he was given money to make stuff.
AdamYeah.
UnknownI mean, it was a big deal.
UnknownAnd he did a great job on it.
UnknownBut it it it when you what you said there, like, the fact that it feels like the clinical notes of it, that makes total sense.
UnknownThat's like totally Cronenberg, like all of it, right? Like, 'The Brood', 'Scanners', 'The Fly', like all of it, you know?
LeeYeah.
AdamEven that description is body horror, so.
UnknownAll of them.
LeeYeah.
LeeYeah, that that combination of him and King has just.
UnknownThe thing about 'Dead Zone' is like.
UnknownIt may it was it was made the same year as 'Videodrome' and 'Videodrome' feels 100% like this is David Cronenberg.
UnknownWhere 'The Dead Zone' feels like a totally different movie, totally different vibe of movie, right?
UnknownWhich is him taking on King, but it's it's fucking beautiful.
AdamYeah.
AdamYeah, yeah.
AdamBecause that was like the 'Holy Quadrilogy' or well, what what's five, what's five, what would be that?
UnknownDude, that's not a thing.
UnknownWhat are you doing?
AdamNo, I'm just saying like, like this is a hell of a a run here, 'The Brood', 'Scanners', 'Videodrome', 'Dead Zone', 'The Fly', like all in a row. Like that's fucking pretty.
UnknownBut then he did 'Dead Ringers' and 'Naked Lunch'.
AdamYeah, yeah.
UnknownI mean, he didn't stop, you know, he kept on going.
AdamHe has some.
UnknownHe didn't stop.
UnknownHe does a lot of book adaptions, you forget it, but it's like, you know, because obviously there's this, 'Naked Lunch' and, yeah, just loads of stuff that is not his necessarily his stories.
AdamYeah, Cronenberg's very dynamic.
AdamHe doesn't he he'd do more than just body horror, but I think that's what he's, yeah.
UnknownSo I have a question.
UnknownYou made it sound, Adam, as if there was a certain time where all of a sudden in England, they started showing all this Stephen King stuff.
UnknownAnd like we were spoiled over here with all of it the whole time, like, is that kind of what you're saying?
UnknownLike all of a sudden, like, okay, BBC is going to show all these fucking things now that you'll never get a chance. You Chris said that too, like you never get a chance to see before.
UnknownThey were basically Stephen King's following over here was pretty much on video, certainly in like, you know, it was people had read him and, you know, but the videos were what you saw it.
UnknownAnd in that initial eight years, I was probably too young to get any of that access to any of those.
UnknownAnd then, yeah, it would have been sort of late.
UnknownIt was it was basically, it was like I say, it was definitely when they'd done 'It' and 'Golden Years' and they were like, oh, these are these are really successful.
UnknownSo we'll import them over and then we're like, and we could show loads of his films as like films and was like, and they just, yeah, suddenly it was like, oh, we're doing a Stephen King season.
UnknownAnd, and yeah, I mean, and the thing what I think there was, you know, there there was loads of stuff in there, you know, there was, that was that the first time I saw 'The Shining'?
UnknownProbably.
UnknownSo it was just this weird, but the weird thing was, I hadn't watched 'It'.
UnknownBecause 'It' was kind of like, as I'm sitting there, I'm like.
AdamYeah, you know.
AdamOkay.
UnknownYeah.
UnknownAnd you were.
UnknownYeah, and then somehow, I think it was it was obviously just like, maybe it was a year later or whatever like that.
UnknownBut then it was like, oh, great, they're showing all these. They didn't repeat 'It'.
UnknownI probably would have watched it then, but yeah.
UnknownBut there are still, I've so it was from that little season, but I've still got like 'Sleepwalkers' and 'Pet Cemetery'.
AdamOh, the movie?
ChrisThe original.
AdamOh, wow.
UnknownIn any any version of 'Pet Cemetery'.
AdamHey, what did the guy say about him?
AdamHe's really getting up there.
AdamIt's, what's his name from 'The Munsters',
AdamI almost said Fred Ward, but that would work too for some reason.
UnknownFred Gwynn.
UnknownFred Ward's, yeah.
UnknownIt's.
UnknownIt's Herman Munster.
AdamHe's really getting up there and then it's just an innocent old man making the observation that a kite is really getting up there and then a child, the child from 'Kindergarten Cop' gets hit by an 18-wheeler big rig on a, on a country road.
AdamThat is 'Pet', that's the story of 'Pet Cemetery'.
Adamit's a good one, it's a good one.
AdamI got a,
AdamI got my first contrarian unpopular opinion pick of the episode.
UnknownYou mean all?
AdamI feel like I'm in safe company already to bring this up.
AdamAgain, this these are more autobiographical than they are quality.
Adambut this was one of the first times I got over the self-consciousness of going to the movies by myself and not feeling like I need to, you know, have a friend with me or something.
AdamI'm just like, whatever, I don't care, you know, I'm just going to go to a movie.
UnknownYou need to have friends to do that in the first place, Bobby.
AdamI know, right?
AdamThe internet wasn't around yet.
Adam
AdamBut actually it was, it was 2003, Lawrence Kasdan directed, hell of a cast, 'Dreamcatcher'.
AdamOkay?
Unknown'Dreamcatcher'. Wow. Interesting choice.
AdamThis movie is panned by most people.
ChrisYeah.
AdamUnderstandably, mind you.
AdamOkay, it's not a quality film.
AdamHowever, it has.
UnknownBut it makes your list.
AdamIt has the, the sum of its parts are not quality, but the parts are quality, okay, if that makes sense.
AdamOkay.
ChrisNo, this doesn't say this, but I've never heard of this.
UnknownOkay.
AdamDon't go bad.
AdamI am 50. It's got Tom Sizemore in it.
UnknownIt's got Tom Sizemore, right?
AdamTom Sizemore, listen to this cast.
AdamLawrence Kasdan directed, first off.
AdamThe cast is.
AdamTom Sizemore.
AdamMorgan Freeman.
AdamStephen King regular, Thomas Motherfucking Jane.
Adam2003 era, Jason Lee.
Adamthe fake, who I call him the fake Bill Paxton, Timothy Olyphant.
Adamand, and not Mark, but Donnie Wahlberg as in the New Kids on the Block, playing a bald, retarded boy alien with psychic abilities.
AdamNow.
UnknownWhoa.
AdamNow, this all sounds bad on paper.
UnknownNo, it does.
AdamNo, it does.
AdamNo, here's the thing with 'Dreamcatcher'.
AdamI, I am 50% convinced that Stephen King had access to AI before anyone else and they just shoved all Stephen King's stories into an AI and it spit out 'Dreamcatcher'.
AdamBecause it has your, it has kind of your ensemble, it's, and then you have Lawrence Kasdan who wrote 'The Big Chill', I believe.
AdamIt feels like 'The Big Chill' meets 'The Blob' meets, there was something else I thought of earlier, anyway.
AdamIt's a weird fucking movie and it's about a group of guys getting the band back together, getting the old crew back together, they go on their yearly vacation.
AdamTurns out their childhood friend who turned out to be an alien, played by Donnie Wahlberg, gave them special psychic powers when they were children.
AdamNot knowing why, they just kind of used it.
AdamThey just kind of used it to their advantage through life and then all of a sudden they're at this cabin in the woods and, and there's an evil alien presence that has, kind of taken over the vicinity of those woods.
AdamAnd it is not good.
AdamBut.
UnknownWhy, why, how did this make the list?
AdamBecause I love.
AdamDamian Lewis playing Jonesy in this movie is incredible.
AdamAll the flashback scenes with the, I call him Kiefer Sutherland bully scenes, even though Kiefer Sutherland's not in this movie.
AdamKiefer Sutherland Stephen King bully scenes, you got that in there.
Adamand then you have like Morgan Freeman playing the kind of like government agent that's blocking off the corridor of the area so that the alien presence doesn't escape, but he's he's doing his job, but it's also like, we're Americans, you can't do this to us.
AdamIt's that whole thing.
Adamit's.
AdamIt's definitely worth watching.
AdamNot a great movie, but my top, in my top three.
AdamThank you.
LeeI enjoy it. I feel exactly the same, like it it.
LeeIt's too weird and there's too much crammed in and it's very much a film of two halves, but it's a great hangover movie.
LeeIf you want something to just put and just occasionally you sort of nod off and you wake up.
AdamLet me put it.
LeeWhat the fuck is happening.
AdamI saw it in the theater by myself, had a great time alone.
AdamOne of the best times I've had alone in a long time watching.
UnknownHow was this before, this was before you could drink.
AdamYeah, yeah, I was like, I was like 20.
Adambut and then here's what it is, it's the perfect, we used to have, they don't really sell DVDs anymore, but at Walmart they have this big giant bin of unorganized DVDs.
AdamThat go for $5 back in 2003 and 'Dreamcatcher' was always in there and, I was like, I saw this in the theater, I enjoyed what I saw and I still have the, the $5.
AdamIt's the, the cardboard opening box, shitty.
LeeYeah, yeah.
LeeI've got that version too.
LeeI don't I don't think they ever made it on a proper. No one was asking for it.
AdamNo one.
LeeIt was always just been an A4 paper envelope.
AdamBut I I just think I mean, as as not great as it is, it's weird that it exists and it's not as bad as people say it is, so I will double down on the hipster contrarian bullshit.
UnknownYeah, yeah, yeah. You won, Bobby. You won. Well, let's see what Lee and Chris have to say, but I think you won on shitty.
UnknownFucking random.
AdamDon't talk to me until you've seen it, Adam.
UnknownI'll watch 'The Dark Half'. I'll watch the fucking 'Crow' again.
AdamNo, it has Jason Lee.
AdamYeah.
AdamIt has.
AdamNo, it has Jason Lee.
AdamIn, in the era of 'My Name is Earl'.
UnknownIsn't Damian Lewis basically just like Richard Atherton or that other guy?
AdamYou shut your goddamn mouth right now.
UnknownHe's like the same guy.
UnknownIt's the same fucking guy.
AdamDamian Lewis in this movie does the whole skitzo thing where someone, he's having a conversation with the alien possessed in his own head while he's riding a motorcycle and it was that scene where I was like, or not a motorcycle, a snowmobile.
AdamHe's on a snowmobile and he's going crazy and talking back and forth to himself on a snowmobile.
AdamOne, two different characters, one actor.
AdamIt's, it's fucking wonderful cinema.
UnknownAll right, all right.
UnknownI'll watch it.
UnknownI'll watch it.
AdamWell, don't, if you're disappointed, don't come after me.
UnknownNo.
LeeSounds like.
UnknownNo.
LeeIt's what.
AdamI think Lee put it perfectly, it's a good hangover movie.
AdamYou don't really have to pay attention to it, but it's very.
AdamOh, we're real quick, while we're on the topic, it has shitworms in it.
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