Mos Eisley Happy Hour - Revenge of the Sith
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A long time ago on a Podcast in Essex... It’s 2005, Pope John Paul II dies; YouTube starts; Doctor Who returns to TV and Prince Harry dresses like a Nazi. Our Star Wars watch-through concludes the prequels with ”Revenge of the Sith”. So get General Grievous some Benylin; demonstrate Jedi stealth by clinging to a noisy chicken lizard; cheer at the sight of a planet full of Wookiees; and groan when those same Wookiees do that fucking Tarzan yell again! Watch (or more likely re-watch) to avoid spoilers, and join us. FEATURES STRONG LANGUAGE. APOLOGIES FOR ANY SOUND QUALITY ISSUES -CURRENT QUARANTINE MEASURES MEANT WE HAD TO RECORD THIS EPISODE REMOTELY.
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Unknowntalk about Star Wars
AdamHello and welcome to the Mos Eisley Happy Hour.
AdamI am Adam, and I'm joined by Lee. Hello.
AdamWho's dancing a merry jig for the benefits of the tape.
LeeHappy hour, you got to.
ChrisHe's in the cantina.
AdamCome dancing, not every time.
AdamUh we're also joined by Chris.
ChrisHello.
AdamAnd Wesley.
UnknownHow do you?
LeeHow did he?
AdamAnd we are here to you know, point at episode 3, Revenge of the Sith.
AdamThere we go.
AdamUm, but before we uh launch into that, uh, has anyone been watching anything Star Wars related or adjacent uh between since our last viewing? So uh, Wes, you're nodding. Uh, anything? What, what have you been watching, sir?
UnknownI was watching the animated Clone Wars movie. I watched that cuz that's between the this one and the last one. And also I got myself an Oculus and I decided to play Beat Saber, which I thought was a bit pertinent, so.
AdamYes.
UnknownI crippled myself.
AdamYou've been playing what? Beat Saber?
UnknownBeat Saber. Not beat the meat, but Beat Saber.
AdamRight, okay.
AdamAnd what does that entail? Cause I have no idea what you're talking about.
UnknownUh, in the virtual world, you practically got lightsabers while you're whacking the shit out of.
UnknownThings that look like um, Zelda's cubes.
UnknownFrom Terra Hawks to the rhythm of a song.
ChrisSo yeah, so it's a rhythm game. like Guitar Hero, I suppose.
UnknownYeah.
AdamIt's all rhythm, yeah.
UnknownYou're cutting it.
AdamLightsabers.
UnknownYeah.
AdamNice.
AdamThat's yeah. Oh, no, I I I will next time that anyone is allowed in the same room, I'll uh, I'll I'll strap on your Oculus and I'll have a go.
AdamThat's.
ChrisStrap on your Oculus and beat your saber.
AdamYeah, exactly.
AdamAnd everyone else just leaves the room in shame.
UnknownAnd a bit more stickier than before.
AdamOh, just a little more harmed than before, I think.
AdamUh, Chris, have you been uh, Star Warsing zing-zings?
ChrisYeah, I was looking through some extras on Disney Plus for the Revenge of the Sith, and they've got a load of deleted scenes, which are kind of interesting. They they sort of half made, so it's it's sort of like watching uh, you know, low budget.
ChrisAlmost spoof like looking, slightly odd acting, but it's it's kind of interesting. Some of them were funny, there was uh, one that stood out was uh, it was in Padme's apartment.
ChrisAnd it's called The Seeds of Rebellion, and it's got Mon Mothma and Bail Organa, um and a few others talking about the start.
ChrisUm, you know, considering whether they should be making this Rebel Alliance and yeah.
ChrisI don't exactly, I mean, that must be from a bit further on.
ChrisI don't, I can't quite imagine how they would've put it into this film.
AdamI don't know, cuz it's cuz isn't it? Bail Organa isn't the phrase that's.
AdamUsed in A New Hope is uh, General Kenobi, you fought with my father in the Clone Wars.
ChrisYeah, yeah.
AdamBut it's interesting, now you've said that, I've suddenly realized, yeah, they don't really set up the rebellion particularly in this.
AdamBut you've got, I mean, obviously, didn't they put it into the uh special editions as well?
AdamYou see Jimmy Smith's shouting when uh they blow up Alderaan or something like that.
UnknownUh that was a myth.
ChrisAh.
UnknownThat was a myth that people thought they were gonna you know ruin it with, but they never actually did it.
AdamOh, fair enough.
UnknownBut the the woman who plays Mon Mothma in the extras that were cut out of um Revenge of the Sith, actually did play her in Rogue One.
UnknownSo there's still a continuity with the um with the deleted scenes and the actual universe. So.
ChrisOh, that's pretty good.
AdamOh, well, okay.
AdamWell, I suppose if you found someone who can be Mon Mothma.
ChrisHm.
AdamYou sort of.
UnknownWhy change it?
AdamWhy, why, yeah. Why, why go looking elsewhere apart from scandal or death.
ChrisAnd the other thing that stood out was a a documentary on Star Wars tech, is any of it plausible? And I thought it was kind of funny that um, X-wings, definitely not, no chance.
ChrisUm, smoke in space, yeah, you can get that.
ChrisUm, and but we do actually have ion drives and the TIE fighter stands for twin ion engine. Although, although it would take about however many years to get up to the sort of speeds they fly at.
ChrisLike 50 years or something.
ChrisBut yeah, that's kind of fun.
AdamOh, they've they've mentioned in the series that time moves differently for spaceships, you know.
AdamMaybe we're seeing it and everyone in the Star Wars universe is at really low speed.
AdamSo, you know, they're they're ion drive work fucking fantastically.
AdamWhat, what a scientist I am.
AdamLee, have you been watching anything Star Wars-y?
LeeUm, I've not been watching, but again, uh, following last week, as I, I played, um, Rebel Assault 2.
LeeUh, I got a message from friend of the show, uh, Snobby Bobby.
AdamOh, yeah.
LeeUh, so he dropped me a message and said, oh, if you liked that, you should go and play Dark Forces, uh, same year, so 95. Uh, so I went and bought that on Steam and played that for a couple of hours.
LeeIt effectively is Doom with, uh, a Star Wars mask over it and it's bloody brilliant.
LeeI couldn't believe.
ChrisThat was a classic.
LeeYeah, I'll be going back to that a lot.
LeeIt's just it's it's just so easy. I did play it on the easy level, but it's it's back before you had like stupid amounts of controls to remember, memorized. It's like you walk, you point, you shoot, you put, put your torch on and off if you're in a dark room and that's it. It's just pick up energy, pick up shield, kill shit. It's.
ChrisWhere you get a whole Star Wars story. You get a few cut scenes, don't you?
LeeYeah, yeah, and the cutaway scenes, yeah, the same as, uh, like the ones on, um, uh, uh, Rebel.
LeeRebel dongle dingle. What was it?
AdamAssault.
LeeRebel Assault, that's the one.
LeeUm, yeah, so it's all similar to that, so it's not sort of video quality, but for the time, it was quite kind of mind-blowing how good it was. But yeah, so all in all, good fun. So, thank you very much.
AdamThat I would definitely, yeah, that I'll definitely would like to play, I think.
LeeUh, on Steam.
LeeSo Star Wars Doom is.
AdamYeah, that's a selling point.
LeeAnd I think it was like 4.70 or something ridiculous, like it's one of those that you think, you know what, if I buy it and I play it for an afternoon, I've had me money's worth out of it, but I do think I'll be going back to it, cuz it was great.
AdamNice.
AdamI I've actually been doing, I've been doing proper homework and everything.
AdamUm, and uh, I have I decided to restart The Mandalorian, cuz I'd only got so many episodes in. Um, so that I'm gonna stick with.
AdamAnd I think well on the way, Mandalorian falls sometime after it'd be Return of the Jedi.
UnknownNine years.
AdamAfter Return of the Jedi. So there we go.
AdamSo we may sneak in The Mandalorian at that point because I know that everyone, everyone on the show is a fan.
LeeOh, yes.
AdamYeah.
AdamAnd also it's, yeah, I'm I'm things just end up getting stretched as it's like, yeah, but I really want to watch, I really want to talk about The Mandalorian. So yeah.
AdamThat's gonna that that's that's gonna count as yeah, well, it's it's live action, there we go. We'll we'll we can differentiate from animation that way, I suppose.
AdamUm, but um.
UnknownBattle for Endor's on then.
AdamI think it probably.
UnknownCaravan of Courage.
AdamCaravan of Courage, well, we speaking, speaking of Snobby Bobby, he has requested to join us for that and if anything, just an opportunity to hang around with Bobby's always great.
AdamSo yeah.
AdamI think we I think we should cover them if only so that I can put it to rest in my head that they are shite. So it's like it's one of those things that I'm the same as you, Lee.
AdamI think I'd watched them on video at the time, have never gone back and it's now sort of like, you know, in in my head, I don't even think I have an impression of it, almost.
AdamIt's just, yeah, I've never gone back, so I can't be that great.
LeeI think I think finding them might be the the issue cuz when you mentioned it before, uh, when you and Bobby were discussing it.
LeeAnd I went and looked on eBay, um, and I could I could find the first one without too much trouble, but the second one, I could only find a box set of the two.
LeeAnd the cheapest version I could find was like 27 quid and I was like, I think it's gonna be.
UnknownAnd I know.
LeeFuck that.
UnknownI've I've got it on DVD, so um.
LeeYou can get.
UnknownI'll see if I can organize us all seeing it, so yeah.
LeeOh, we could do a viewing party.
UnknownOoh.
ChrisYeah.
AdamOh my god.
UnknownThat sounds like good internet is needed for that.
AdamThat's very true.
AdamBut still, I think, yeah, I think it's looking it's pretty much looking on the cards. They apparently are post Jedi as well.
AdamUm, because you you know what Ewoks look like. I don't think it really bears much into it, you know.
AdamI'm pretty sure that Wicket isn't involved in trade negotiations on Booyah any point.
UnknownI you say that, in the first film he talks like he does in Return of the Jedi, and in the second film, he can speak.
UnknownBecause one of one of the children in it teaches him.
ChrisHm.
AdamOh, no, you don't.
LeeYeah.
AdamNo, no.
UnknownBoth films are like a cross between Willow and Star Wars if I'm honest.
AdamThey do seem to I think they are more they do feel more like a fantasy film, they feel like something like Dark Crystal or something like that, where it's essentially a lot of puppets and they have a bar me in a wood. You know, that's about it. So.
AdamUm, uh, yes.
AdamAnd actually, that was something that will lead us into um, Revenge of the Sith, and I'm gonna go for a positive.
AdamAlready here is that speak we'll come back to it, but speaking of uh, sort of knowledge of other characters. I really have no problem with Chewbacca knowing Yoda.
AdamCause I did.
ChrisOh.
AdamI did for ages.
AdamAnd then I sort of watched it and it's like, this just feels like especially when it's him and there's like the S&M Wookiee next to him and Yoda just takes that guy, takes the clone assassin down.
AdamAnd Chewie gives him a look like, told you he was the shit.
AdamAnd.
AdamAnd then they go wandering off and he scampers up his arm and everything and I was like, yeah, no, I'm fine with that now.
AdamSo it was always a thing that it was in my same wheelhouse as um C3PO being built by Anakin and all those sort of things.
AdamBut yeah, weirdly enough, Chewie and Yoda, I'm quite happy for that.
AdamI'd just like to see the outtakes where they go and get pissed.
ChrisBut the only thing, I didn't realize, I'd completely forgotten that was in there till watching it again.
ChrisBut um, is it not a bit confusing then that Chewie doesn't sort of mention to Han, oh yeah, you know you're slagging off Jedis a lot and you think it's all rubbish, but I kind of know the top one and he's now teaching Luke, you know, he's probably doing quite well.
AdamI don't know if he ever came up.
AdamCuz Luke's the only one who I think Luke's the only one who actually meets Yoda in the original, in the original trilogy.
ChrisBut Chewie surely would've heard of Obi-Wan as well, has being one of those famous ones that were around in that just I don't know, it just me this time has been really odd.
AdamOh.
ChrisYeah, but most of them were killed at that, you know, order 66.
AdamYeah.
AdamBut it's I think.
UnknownBut that's right at that moment, yeah.
AdamHm.
AdamOh, no, I definite I definitely think that it's part of it's definitely within that same area of problematic, I mean, fucking hell, in A New Hope, it's like, oh, I felt a presence I've never felt in ages, you're old teacher, the droid you've built, the droid you went on fucking flying battles with.
AdamThe bloke who knows Yoda.
AdamYou know, it's it's a lot that's going, he should and and his own kid.
AdamYou know, and it's like, oh, I feel a presence, it's like, you're parents are white.
ChrisProbably been off the cabbage.
LeeSo that's I think it's all the long fur. For some reason, there's something about Chewie that in the back of my mind, whenever he isn't helping Han Solo work on the ship, he's off smoking space cabbage. Like in my mind, he's constantly blitzed out of his brain.
LeeI don't know why.
LeeI just it's just something about him, it's like, he's absolutely blazed out of his gourd, I think.
LeeAt all times.
ChrisSo that's why he's got no idea.
UnknownI think if we're honest, he's actually picking shit out of his fur.
AdamOh, my god.
UnknownIt can't be easy going to toilet like that, can it?
AdamNo, that's true.
AdamYou just all you hear is and then has to go back, gets the scissors out of the glove box. Fuck sake.
UnknownFrom his little handbag, yeah.
AdamAnd his penguin bars in his thing. But, you know, it's.
AdamIsn't it a relief that we can actually, I suppose that's another thing as well is at least we can talk fondly of Chewie at the moment as well, because there's nothing in this that sort of fucks Chewie's mythos in any sort of way. Cause you do get a planet full of Wookiees and it's really annoying that you don't see that much of that battle.
AdamBecause.
AdamIt looks the absolute Viking shit at that point.
AdamI think that's the thing though, is is is is Chewie just in your mind the ultimate hippie? Because it's like, you've got long hair and then there's this. This is like, this is long hair in its ultimate form.
AdamYou know.
LeeLong hair literally everywhere. That's what it is, yeah. Just the whole lot.
AdamYeah.
AdamSo.
AdamUh, well, I mean, we're sort of we're we're already diving there. So, uh.
AdamOh, yeah. Um, again, this is ridiculous, isn't it? Um, because we've already done it.
AdamUh, spoiler and swearing alert. So I've really got to get better at doing that at the start.
AdamSo, uh, fucking spoilers, all right? So there you go.
AdamThat's the swearing and spoiler alert. Um, and we are covering Episode 3, Revenge of the Sith.
AdamAnd we now have to go back to 2005.
AdamEveryone's favorite war criminal, just think of it like the scroll going up.
AdamSo it's two 2005. Everyone's favorite war criminal romance continues with Blair and Bush clinging to power like crabs on an ass hair.
AdamPope John Paul II dies and me and you, Lee, are at a Noll Fielding gig when he does.
LeeOoh, oh, God, yeah, I remember that.
AdamCuz Russell Watson came on and was just saying, the Pope's dead and everyone was just going, see, this is information you didn't know you needed, isn't it? Look, I don't need a microphone. Pope's dead, you listening?
AdamUh, Prince Harry is photographed in Nazi uniform. Prince Charles marries Camilla Parker Bowles, not sure if they were photographed in Nazi uniform, it doesn't say.
AdamUm, the 7-7 Tube and bus bombings kill 52 people and injure over 700. Uh, Islamist similar, Islamic uh, terrorists then attempt a similar.
AdamAttack on the 21st, but transport is disrupted, but no one is hurt.
AdamUh, the in in British law, the Civil Partnership Act and the Gender Recognition Act come into effect, but so does the really successful Fox Hunting Ban.
AdamCuz obviously, cuz obviously we've stamped that out and there's not like weird rich people in bloodying each other and getting hard-ons from anyway.
AdamUm.
AdamMagic mushrooms are recriminalized.
AdamSorry, everyone.
AdamUm, that was a series of marches that weren't particularly well organized.
AdamI don't know why.
AdamUh, David Cameron becomes leader of the Opposition Conservative Party, and Me at the Zoo, the first ever video is uploaded to YouTube.
LeeWow, 2005.
AdamYeah, yeah, 2005. That's when YouTube first launched.
AdamUh, Rolf Harris paints the Queen's annual portrait.
AdamAnd.
AdamUh, probably gets on really well with Prince Andrew.
AdamThen Celebrity Big Brother.
AdamAnd this is possibly my favorite 2005 fact, it's a second longer.
AdamThan most years.
AdamUh, apparently there is a thing called a leap second and every few years they have to adjust it so that measured time syncs up properly with solar time.
AdamSo, uh, yeah, so the last one before this was 1998. So yeah.
AdamSo it's the longest year by a second for for nearly 10 years.
AdamSo it's sort of, yeah.
AdamAnd for other fascinating facts like that, please stick your head in the bowl.
AdamIn film, you've got White Noise, Elektra, Assault on Precinct 13, the remake.
AdamWolf Creek, Constantine, Cursed, The Jacket.
AdamThat is a fucking good film. I really need to watch that again.
AdamThe Ring 2, Sin City, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.
AdamUh, House of Wax, the second remake of House of Wax, uh, Dominion prequel to the Exorcist.
AdamMadagascar.
AdamThe League of Gentlemen's Apocalypse, The Descent.
AdamBatman Begins or Batman Biggins, I think that's the one with Christopher Biggins in it.
AdamUh, Land of the Dead, War of the Worlds, Fantastic Four, that's the first go.
AdamUm, fucking that up.
AdamCharlie and the Chocolate Factory, Wedding Crashers, The Devil's Rejects, The Skeleton Key.
AdamThe 40-Year-Old Virgin, The Brothers Grimm, The Exorcism of the Exorcism of Emily Rose.
AdamThe Proposition, The Corpse Bride, A History of Violence, Serenity.
AdamWallace and Gromit The Curse of the Were-Rabbit, Kinky Boots, the remake of The Fog, Saw II.
AdamHarry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Walk the Line, Brokeback Mountain, V for Vendetta and King Bloody Kong.
AdamThat's not a bad year.
AdamIt's got some right shite in there, but it's also got some pretty good stuff.
LeeI like the Wallace and Gromit one. That's about it.
LeeAnd V for Vendetta, obviously.
ChrisI I like V for, yeah.
ChrisI thought that was pretty good.
UnknownHitchhiker's was good.
AdamHitchhiker's was good, it's a shame that it didn't get.
AdamAnd you've got League of Gentlemen's Apocalypse.
LeeOh, yeah.
LeeYeah, yeah.
AdamYou know, Constantine, I know you're a fan, Lee.
AdamInterestingly enough, Revenge of the Sith is the second um Star Wars film in a row.
AdamThat wasn't the box office number one of the year.
LeeOh, really?
AdamYeah.
AdamBecause all the the prequels or the original trilogy were and then uh Phantom Menace was, but then I think because of Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones wasn't and possibly because of Attack of the Clones, Revenge of the Sith wasn't either.
AdamUm, I think it lost this one this year it loses out to Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire.
AdamUm.
ChrisGoblet of Fire.
AdamI I know. I just like being crude.
AdamI'm a crude man, I'm a crude and unhealthy man.
AdamOn television.
LeeYou'll be rewatching them all and they're brilliant.
LeeI think that they are.
ChrisThey are, they are a way better than I expected them to be.
AdamThat's a good question.
AdamAnd then TV, you've got fucking Doctor Who comes back finally.
AdamThe remake, the remake of The Quatermass Experiment, which incidentally was also live.
AdamWhich was the night that the Pope died and me and you went to see Noll Fielding. Yeah. Uh, Nathan Barley, The Thick of It, Extras, American Dad, 8 out of 10 Cats.
AdamYou start sensing the usual downturn in television quality as we go through this list, cuz you then get Mock the Week, Come Dine With Me, Deal or No Deal, Coach Trip, The Apprentice, The fucking Jeremy Kyle Show and Love Island.
AdamSo.
AdamYeah.
AdamIt's I mean, from from from the pinnacle to the literal dregs of shit. So I think that really runs.
AdamUm.
AdamThe big singles were Hollaback Girl, Axel F by the Crazy Frog, You're Beautiful by James Cunt.
AdamUh, Wake Me Up When September Ends by Green Day, I'm I can feel the venom sort of just hitting in the back of my nose.
AdamUm.
AdamUh, My Humps, The Black Eyed Peas, Fix You, Coldplay.
AdamBut in the album charts you do get Francis the Mute from The Mars Volta, Suspended Animation from Phantomas, uh, Two Shoes by Empire with Teeth, Nine Inch Nails, um, Supernature, Goldfrapp.
AdamWhich our lady on the Mouse and the Mask by Danger Doom.
AdamSo there are, you know, there's there's things, having listened to the charts.
AdamThe deaths included Ronnie Barker, Dave Allen and a man who will become relevant later on, Michael Sheard. So, yes.
AdamThat was.
Adam2005, which brings us to Revendi of the Sith.
AdamAnd uh, right, uh, yes, uh, Wesley, how was your first viewing of this?
AdamThis was was this us at the cinema?
UnknownNo.
UnknownI didn't see it till about a year later on uh DVD. Cuz I was working, I couldn't get to the pictures.
ChrisUh, you're you're the cause of the the box office flop.
UnknownYeah.
AdamYeah, got to see the bloody Goblet of Fire, didn't he?
UnknownSo.
UnknownNo, what?
AdamYou went to see Goblet of Fire, I know. That's what's happened.
UnknownNo, I didn't actually. I saw the first one at the pictures and then the rest I watched on DVD.
AdamCuz.
AdamI still like seeing them all.
AdamOh.
ChrisHaven't you?
AdamI haven't seen one.
AdamSo.
AdamI keep everyone always shows me the bits with Gary Oldman in Prisoner of Azkaban.
AdamYeah.
AdamBut other than that, yeah, I've not seen not certainly not intentionally seen any.
AdamOh, and obviously if anyone, you know, we're playing drink when you spot Warwick Davis, which is again, you know, Star Wars and Potter now.
AdamAlthough you could be fucking leathered if you did it with obviously with uh Leprechaun.
AdamSo, cuz he features quite heavily in that.
AdamUm, I don't know who it was I went to see it with. I think I'm sure, I might have gone with Sarah and I think Dean was with me as well.
AdamLee, were was I with you for Revenge of the Sith? I'm not sure.
LeeI I I went to the midnight showing, but I don't know if I then went again with you.
LeeI've got a feeling I might have seen this one twice at the cinema cuz I couldn't decide if I liked it or not after the first time, so I tried to give it a second go.
AdamWell, I.
AdamCause when I when I saw it at the cinema, it wasn't it definitely wasn't the midnight showing.
AdamBut when I saw it at the cinema, the most curious fucking thing happened is there was a cock up with the sound.
AdamAnd so it started off with the Fox logo and the searchlights in absolute silence.
AdamThen the Star Wars, then a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, absolute silence, the Star Wars logo.
AdamJust retreating back, silence.
AdamThe scroll goes up and I'm thinking, this is a fucking brave move.
AdamThis is the movie we're gonna want because this is cuz everyone was like, oh, but Revenge of the Sith's gonna be like The Empire Strikes Back of the prequels, so it's gonna be really fucking good.
AdamAnd I'm thinking, that is a brave choice. Well done, whoever's directed, you know, well done, George.
AdamBecause you've.
AdamYou know, you've gone for silence and just to really hammer home the fucking drama.
AdamAnd then it cuts into the space battle and it became apparent that the sound just wasn't on.
AdamAnd there was a there was a a flurry of feet and the doors going at the back of the auditorium and then suddenly in full THX, fucking stereo, the battle was.
AdamAnd uh.
AdamYeah, but for but for those brief sort of like those brief couple of minutes, I was like convinced that they'd gone down.
AdamHoly shit, this is gonna be like fucking Watchmen.
AdamThey've really just decided that.
AdamI mean, interestingly, Jar Jar doesn't have a line in this one.
AdamBut.
AdamYeah, I thought that they'd really gone to town with it.
AdamAnd actually brought back up that hope that he was gonna stand trial for war crimes as well.
AdamUm, but yeah.
ChrisSo.
AdamSadly, no.
AdamNow, now did that make you really focus.
ChrisNow, now did that make you really focus on the scrolling text and appreciate it more?
AdamI think weirdly enough, it made you just realize that actually that's quite a long segment.
LeeYeah.
ChrisWell, especially I I really don't like the text in this one. The first paragraph just seemed complete rubbish to me.
AdamCuz it starts off.
AdamWar.
ChrisYeah.
AdamYeah.
ChrisExclamation mark. It just it just seems like a spoof, doesn't it?
ChrisIt's.
AdamYeah.
AdamYeah.
AdamYeah.
ChrisWhat were they thinking?
AdamWell, I've been doing this at to to entertain Claire when we've been watching them is I've been reading the scroll in a slightly dazed Jordi accent.
AdamAnd and and asking at key points if you get that in London.
AdamSo.
LeeAnd it'd be like.
AdamWith an army of clones.
AdamDo you have an army of clones?
AdamIn London.
AdamAnd um, yeah, I've been sort of and yeah, so that was fantastic.
AdamCuz it was like, episode one, episode three, Revenge of the Sith, war.
AdamIt's yeah, it's somewhat sort of it is a somewhat ludicrous one.
AdamI know what you mean.
AdamIt feels very cuz a lot of the others do are much more.
AdamSort of just they're setting the stage.
AdamBut not in a not in a sort of that feels like suddenly the guy from The Sun has been asked to do the fucking scroll for it.
AdamYeah.
AdamWar.
AdamCalducoin.
AdamDirty lightsaber sensation.
AdamYeah.
AdamGrievous.
AdamGrievous reveals his top three cough medicines.
LeeYeah, that's what he needs.
AdamYeah, that's what he needs.
LeeA robot in a cough.
LeeLike.
AdamYeah.
ChrisYeah.
LeeI just I don't get what they were thinking.
LeeI don't.
LeeDon't get it.
AdamHe's still had his old lungs.
ChrisYeah, he's he's a cyborg, so I guess they just wanted to make it obvious to everyone that he's more than a droid.
AdamYeah.
ChrisBy giving him a cough.
ChrisYeah, maybe that's the choice to do.
AdamHe's.
AdamSee his fleshy bits.
ChrisYeah.
AdamAround his eyes.
AdamAnd but.
AdamUm, Gary Oldman was meant to be the voice of General Grievous.
UnknownAh, that was my trivia fact.
AdamOh.
AdamSorry.
AdamYeah.
AdamYeah.
UnknownSorry.
AdamYou got another one.
UnknownYeah.
AdamBut I what was the reason he couldn't do it? Was it something to do with like the actors union or something like that?
UnknownThey wanted him to record it in a foreign country to America and because of the screen actors guild, it would have gone against it. So in an act of solidarity, he said, no.
AdamOh, fair enough.
AdamThat's all right.
AdamThat's fair enough.
AdamBut um, yes, I think it's the sound effects, it's the sound designer, isn't it, who does the voice of Grievous?
AdamRight.
AdamWhat was his name?
AdamBen Burtt.
UnknownI remember.
UnknownBen Burtt, also, yeah.
AdamYeah, but the cough is George Lucas's cough.
ChrisHm.
AdamApparently he had a really bad cough during during the making of this and this is sounding a bit like, hold on. George, you having some crazy ideas you again?
AdamI've got a cough.
AdamRight.
AdamGet it on there.
AdamNo, like, okay.
LeeCough Cameo.
AdamYeah.
AdamThat's why.
AdamThat's why this took slightly longer to film than all the others is because obviously all his directions were just caught up in the middle of like a massive hacking cough in fit.
AdamSo it's like.
AdamIf you start.
AdamIf you start with that.
AdamIf you start with that, don't.
AdamAnd as soon as they turn the microphone on.
UnknownAnd as soon as they turn the microphone on, they'll have to wait for him to flem up, didn't they?
AdamOh.
AdamNo.
AdamNo.
AdamGod, what a charming thought.
AdamHe got it from his big Goiter.
AdamSo.
AdamYeah.
LeeSaying about the about um the scroll and stuff, one of the things I do like about this is it is straight into that massive space battle.
AdamYeah.
LeeThat that doesn't let up for like 20 odd minutes, it's non-stop action, as soon as that scroll cuts, it's amazing.
AdamYeah.
UnknownOn the original cut of the film, the entire bit on um.
UnknownUh, Grievous's ship and the rescue of Palpatine was an hour long and they had to cut the whole thing back.
AdamOh.
UnknownCause you got there was uh there was loads of different bits that they had, you know, it wasn't just getting from that office and the ship all tilting up. There was loads more other little bits and pieces, but.
ChrisAnd and it was it was fairly brutal with Dooku.
AdamOh, I mean he got.
ChrisBut yeah, by Anakin.
AdamI think it's a daf move though, because what if if Christopher Lee comes back more powerful than you could imagine.
AdamYeah.
AdamThat's that's that's that's some bad fucking Jedi.
AdamThat is, that's just that's gonna come back on your threefold.
AdamI incidentally, as a as a running theme for the show, did you notice that Palpatine had brought his own bad back chair?
AdamUm, even when he was kidnapped.
AdamBring me chair.
AdamI'm not going to bring me chair.
LeeEconomically designed.
AdamI I didn't notice it, but I'll tell you what I did notice and I don't know whether you guys saw it, I didn't I've not noticed it before, but I watched it on this.
AdamI saw it on this viewing.
AdamSo after that big battle, uh, when they take the space bus, I'm guessing, um, to the Senate, cuz it drops off, um, Anakin.
AdamAnd Obi-Wan stays on it and it takes him off elsewhere.
AdamUm, but when they drop him at the Senate, if you as they're coming into land, if you look on the dock below.
AdamUh, the Millennium Falcon's coming into land.
AdamUm.
LeeYeah.
AdamYeah, which I'd never noticed, but in start contrast to the story that we get in Solo.
AdamWhich I don't want to obviously blow me beans before we get there, um, it's the Millennium Falcon in the shape in which we know it.
AdamAnd it doesn't have the uh missing escape pod with it, so just putting that out there.
UnknownThat's just the Carellian transport craft.
AdamYeah.
ChrisAh, modifications.
AdamYeah.
AdamI have to say, I agree with you, Lee, I think that.
AdamCause weirdly enough, the opening bit is the only time that I get the sense of Anakin and fucking Obi-Wan.
AdamYou know, that at that point, that feels like a series I'd want to see.
AdamYeah, when when it's just them dicking about in the lift and everything else like that and they're kind of and it's just a wee bit cocky and but, you know, it it feels like proper it feels like a friendship.
AdamAnd it's a weird one and it's so much better than the sort of like, oh, Obi-Wan Biggin Biggin.
AdamAnd.
AdamYeah.
AdamI now kind of get it, you know, it's sort of.
ChrisHm.
ChrisBut I think Anakin is better in this all around.
ChrisI mean, I'm sure.
AdamOh, yeah.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisLike overall is for me is much more believable his turning.
AdamI yeah, I think I think he just um what's his name, Hayden Christensen, I mean, poor sod, I can't remember his name when we're praising him.
AdamBut last last last week where it was just a wall to wall diss, and it's like, yeah, I just said his name so many fucking times.
AdamBut yeah, I I he definitely steps up from the uh the sort of whiny emo Anakin.
AdamOf Attack of the Clones.
AdamAnd I do find I find him more plausible, there's still elements where it's like.
AdamI mean, the fucking the business with the Jedi with with him and Padme, it's still is a bit of a vacuum.
AdamCuz it all feels a bit sort of like, but I love you.
AdamCan you say it with more feeling?
AdamBut I love you.
AdamNo, that's exactly the same way you said it, wasn't it?
AdamAnd um, but sort of in all the other interactions, I really I think him and I mean, him and Ian McDiarmid.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisI mean, to be fair, obviously like Ian is is is fantastic.
ChrisSo he does do well to keep up with him.
AdamHm.
ChrisIn that.
AdamCuz that is not an easy task.
ChrisYeah, cuz he is excellent in this.
LeeHe does slimy in this so well, like the bits when you can just see him.
LeeHe says something and then you see his eyes sitting there and he he sort of looks at him waiting for it to sink in and then, but I can sort out whatever and it's like, oh, you horrible grooming piece of shit. He's such a black.
AdamDo you know what it says in my notes?
AdamYou haven't seen any Gladiator movies.
AdamCuz it does have that air to it.
AdamCal, do coin.
AdamDirty lightsaber sensation.
AdamYeah.
AdamI'm not.
AdamAnyway.
AdamUm.
AdamI've gotta say, I did get from this.
AdamHonestly, one of the best bits of this film for me, I did get a chill when that mask went on and he took that first breath in it.
AdamI did kind of go.
AdamYeah.
UnknownOh, yeah.
UnknownOh.
AdamWell, it's actually got.
UnknownWell, it's actually got my favorite sound effect in it.
UnknownWhich is when the mask clicks on and it clicked, you got that high pitch sound.
AdamOh, yeah.
AdamI just love it.
AdamCuz you get that love you get that lovely.
AdamVacuum sound when when the helmet goes on and it's just yeah, that's beautiful.
AdamYeah.
ChrisAfter appreciating that so much.
ChrisAm I the only one that didn't like the way he said, no?
AdamOh, God.
AdamYeah.
AdamCompletely with you on that one.
AdamMan that was just like.
ChrisIt was just like, oh, that could have been so perfect.
ChrisAnd just somehow it's got too much of the whiny.
AdamMotherfucker.
AdamYeah.
AdamIt's it's very Matt Berry in the IT Crowd, isn't it?
AdamFather.
AdamIt's.
AdamIt's that sort of level of, you know, mid mid-afternoon American soap opera sort of level.
AdamDepending on.
UnknownDepending on what version of Return of the Jedi you've got, it comes up again.
AdamDoes it?
AdamYeah.
AdamYou shitting me.
UnknownThere there is a I think it's one of the I don't think it's the Blu-ray.
UnknownIt might be the last DVD one, when he picks up the Emperor and he throws him down the, he goes, hello.
AdamYes.
AdamYeah, you're right.
AdamI've I have seen that cut that version of it and it's yeah, it's bloody fucking stupid.
AdamNot only that, but also you've suddenly got the coolest fucking voice in the world.
AdamYou've got the voice of James.
AdamYeah, with with mechanical additives and everything.
AdamAnd yeah, then you just say get it to go, don't spoil the magic.
UnknownNo, I'll just use a table.
AdamOh, right.
AdamOkay.
AdamThey're all imagine you're in a beret and like, you know, a big shirt.
AdamI wear a beret.
AdamI ain't got anything else on.
AdamOh, God.
AdamYeah.
AdamNo.
AdamNo.
AdamWell, what does that leave, Adam?
AdamI'm gonna go with a seven.
AdamBecause I think much the same as Lee, I was kind of thinking cuz it's 6.5, but that's what I gave Attack of the Clones. I'm going with a seven just because this entertained me more and pissed me off less than how Attack of the Clones did. Because I think the balance is getting right as well.
AdamWhere it's like, yeah, the.
AdamKeep Padme and Anakin to essentials rather than whole bits about floating apples and shit. And, you know, there are there are flaws in it, but they're enjoyable flaws.
AdamUm, such as, you know, if if nothing else, the fucking chicken lizard chasing the blowjob machine from South Park with a four-armed robot on it.
AdamThat's entertaining.
AdamYou know, I have not seen that in any other film.
AdamAnd that is always a good rating for me.
AdamI've just worked it out.
AdamSo I've just remembered about stupid puppy legs, I it really reminded me something and I couldn't remember what it is. It's gonna be really obscure and most people are probably not gonna know it, but I know that Adam is definitely going to You know, in Invader Zim, when Gir gets in the brain of the house and turns it into a dog to go and buy go and buy burritos.
AdamYeah.
AdamAnd the house turns into a giant dog.
AdamThat's what it reminded me of.
AdamBurdito.
AdamIt really is.
AdamIt really fucking is.
AdamSo, and if you've not watched Invader Zim and you're listening to a Star Wars podcast.
AdamWatch Invader Zim, it's fucking great.
AdamGenius.
AdamYou you'll just you'll get it.
AdamIt's yeah, it's it's the the sci-fi fans show definitely.
AdamAnd back to gaming, I've recently gone back to playing my PlayStation 2 recently, and in the games there, I found uh Destroy All Humans, which is the same guy who did the voice of Invader Zim doing that voice for an alien.
AdamAnd it.
AdamOh.
AdamNo.
AdamI heard.
AdamOh, I said that is that is a great game. That really is. You wouldn't have played it cuz I think I've got your one. That's very probable. Oh, I said, that is that is a great game. That really is. And yes, so right, I'm just I'm just double checking my maths here. So talking amongst yourselves, you know, because uh this could be uh a week's podcast that will be shorter than the film itself. Not hard at 2020 minutes. Uh, Lee, what is your rating out of 10? And what what what out of 10 are we going to do to uh 10 uh 10 chicken lizards, out of 10 chicken lizards, how many chicken lizards do you give it? I'm gonna give this six and a half. Um, now I know that was what I gave the last film. Um, but there are elements of this I did like, so I think side by side, I would prefer this of the two, but again, it's too close to call necessarily in points. So, um, yeah, so just to clarify, I didn't get that really complicated, didn't it? I know, but I know problem.
AdamIf I give this seven, I've only got three points left to play with and I've still got another like seven films, so I'm trying to be careful.
AdamThat's that's very that's very true.
AdamI think I think also also I think it's um that is a very a very accurate statement that Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith really feel kind of similar in it's like, there's some really fucking good bits in this, but there's some also some really fucking bad bits in this. Yeah. And yeah, so definitely I think Revenge is the is the key one of the of the three.
AdamAnd Revenge of the Sith, obviously it's Revenge because originally it was Revenge of the Jedi, wasn't it?
AdamIn uh Episode 6 was original was originally Revenge of the Jedi. When we were kids, it was that that was the original title for it.
AdamBut subsequently they're saying that they called it that so that illegal merchandise would be released called that.
AdamSo again, the actual production story changed, you know, in our lifetime, 40 odd years, it wasn't the story we were told back then.
