Mos Eisley Happy Hour - Revenge of the Sith

0:00 Unknown talk about Star Wars

0:20 Adam Hello and welcome to the Mos Eisley Happy Hour.

0:23 Adam I am Adam, and I'm joined by Lee. Hello.

0:29 Adam Who's dancing a merry jig for the benefits of the tape.

0:32 Lee Happy hour, you got to.

0:32 Chris He's in the cantina.

0:37 Adam Come dancing, not every time.

0:40 Adam Uh we're also joined by Chris.

0:43 Chris Hello.

0:44 Adam And Wesley.

0:46 Unknown How do you?

0:48 Lee How did he?

0:49 Adam And we are here to you know, point at episode 3, Revenge of the Sith.

0:58 Adam There we go.

1:01 Adam Um, but before we uh launch into that, uh, has anyone been watching anything Star Wars related or adjacent uh between since our last viewing? So uh, Wes, you're nodding. Uh, anything? What, what have you been watching, sir?

1:14 Unknown I was watching the animated Clone Wars movie. I watched that cuz that's between the this one and the last one. And also I got myself an Oculus and I decided to play Beat Saber, which I thought was a bit pertinent, so.

1:25 Adam Yes.

1:26 Unknown I crippled myself.

1:28 Adam You've been playing what? Beat Saber?

1:31 Unknown Beat Saber. Not beat the meat, but Beat Saber.

1:35 Adam Right, okay.

1:37 Adam And what does that entail? Cause I have no idea what you're talking about.

1:39 Unknown Uh, in the virtual world, you practically got lightsabers while you're whacking the shit out of.

1:44 Unknown Things that look like um, Zelda's cubes.

1:47 Unknown From Terra Hawks to the rhythm of a song.

1:50 Chris So yeah, so it's a rhythm game. like Guitar Hero, I suppose.

1:55 Unknown Yeah.

1:55 Adam It's all rhythm, yeah.

1:57 Unknown You're cutting it.

1:58 Adam Lightsabers.

1:58 Unknown Yeah.

2:02 Adam Nice.

2:03 Adam That's yeah. Oh, no, I I I will next time that anyone is allowed in the same room, I'll uh, I'll I'll strap on your Oculus and I'll have a go.

2:11 Adam That's.

2:12 Chris Strap on your Oculus and beat your saber.

2:14 Adam Yeah, exactly.

2:16 Adam And everyone else just leaves the room in shame.

2:20 Unknown And a bit more stickier than before.

2:23 Adam Oh, just a little more harmed than before, I think.

2:27 Adam Uh, Chris, have you been uh, Star Warsing zing-zings?

2:31 Chris Yeah, I was looking through some extras on Disney Plus for the Revenge of the Sith, and they've got a load of deleted scenes, which are kind of interesting. They they sort of half made, so it's it's sort of like watching uh, you know, low budget.

2:40 Chris Almost spoof like looking, slightly odd acting, but it's it's kind of interesting. Some of them were funny, there was uh, one that stood out was uh, it was in Padme's apartment.

2:50 Chris And it's called The Seeds of Rebellion, and it's got Mon Mothma and Bail Organa, um and a few others talking about the start.

2:56 Chris Um, you know, considering whether they should be making this Rebel Alliance and yeah.

3:02 Chris I don't exactly, I mean, that must be from a bit further on.

3:06 Chris I don't, I can't quite imagine how they would've put it into this film.

3:10 Adam I don't know, cuz it's cuz isn't it? Bail Organa isn't the phrase that's.

3:14 Adam Used in A New Hope is uh, General Kenobi, you fought with my father in the Clone Wars.

3:22 Chris Yeah, yeah.

3:24 Adam But it's interesting, now you've said that, I've suddenly realized, yeah, they don't really set up the rebellion particularly in this.

3:31 Adam But you've got, I mean, obviously, didn't they put it into the uh special editions as well?

3:37 Adam You see Jimmy Smith's shouting when uh they blow up Alderaan or something like that.

3:45 Unknown Uh that was a myth.

3:45 Chris Ah.

3:46 Unknown That was a myth that people thought they were gonna you know ruin it with, but they never actually did it.

3:50 Adam Oh, fair enough.

3:51 Unknown But the the woman who plays Mon Mothma in the extras that were cut out of um Revenge of the Sith, actually did play her in Rogue One.

4:02 Unknown So there's still a continuity with the um with the deleted scenes and the actual universe. So.

4:08 Chris Oh, that's pretty good.

4:09 Adam Oh, well, okay.

4:09 Adam Well, I suppose if you found someone who can be Mon Mothma.

4:13 Chris Hm.

4:13 Adam You sort of.

4:14 Unknown Why change it?

4:15 Adam Why, why, yeah. Why, why go looking elsewhere apart from scandal or death.

4:18 Chris And the other thing that stood out was a a documentary on Star Wars tech, is any of it plausible? And I thought it was kind of funny that um, X-wings, definitely not, no chance.

4:26 Chris Um, smoke in space, yeah, you can get that.

4:30 Chris Um, and but we do actually have ion drives and the TIE fighter stands for twin ion engine. Although, although it would take about however many years to get up to the sort of speeds they fly at.

4:36 Chris Like 50 years or something.

4:38 Chris But yeah, that's kind of fun.

4:40 Adam Oh, they've they've mentioned in the series that time moves differently for spaceships, you know.

4:48 Adam Maybe we're seeing it and everyone in the Star Wars universe is at really low speed.

4:54 Adam So, you know, they're they're ion drive work fucking fantastically.

4:59 Adam What, what a scientist I am.

5:01 Adam Lee, have you been watching anything Star Wars-y?

5:04 Lee Um, I've not been watching, but again, uh, following last week, as I, I played, um, Rebel Assault 2.

5:11 Lee Uh, I got a message from friend of the show, uh, Snobby Bobby.

5:13 Adam Oh, yeah.

5:14 Lee Uh, so he dropped me a message and said, oh, if you liked that, you should go and play Dark Forces, uh, same year, so 95. Uh, so I went and bought that on Steam and played that for a couple of hours.

5:23 Lee It effectively is Doom with, uh, a Star Wars mask over it and it's bloody brilliant.

5:26 Lee I couldn't believe.

5:27 Chris That was a classic.

5:28 Lee Yeah, I'll be going back to that a lot.

5:30 Lee It's just it's it's just so easy. I did play it on the easy level, but it's it's back before you had like stupid amounts of controls to remember, memorized. It's like you walk, you point, you shoot, you put, put your torch on and off if you're in a dark room and that's it. It's just pick up energy, pick up shield, kill shit. It's.

5:49 Chris Where you get a whole Star Wars story. You get a few cut scenes, don't you?

5:56 Lee Yeah, yeah, and the cutaway scenes, yeah, the same as, uh, like the ones on, um, uh, uh, Rebel.

6:03 Lee Rebel dongle dingle. What was it?

6:07 Adam Assault.

6:08 Lee Rebel Assault, that's the one.

6:10 Lee Um, yeah, so it's all similar to that, so it's not sort of video quality, but for the time, it was quite kind of mind-blowing how good it was. But yeah, so all in all, good fun. So, thank you very much.

6:20 Adam That I would definitely, yeah, that I'll definitely would like to play, I think.

6:23 Lee Uh, on Steam.

6:24 Lee So Star Wars Doom is.

6:26 Adam Yeah, that's a selling point.

6:27 Lee And I think it was like 4.70 or something ridiculous, like it's one of those that you think, you know what, if I buy it and I play it for an afternoon, I've had me money's worth out of it, but I do think I'll be going back to it, cuz it was great.

6:36 Adam Nice.

6:38 Adam I I've actually been doing, I've been doing proper homework and everything.

6:42 Adam Um, and uh, I have I decided to restart The Mandalorian, cuz I'd only got so many episodes in. Um, so that I'm gonna stick with.

6:54 Adam And I think well on the way, Mandalorian falls sometime after it'd be Return of the Jedi.

7:00 Unknown Nine years.

7:01 Adam After Return of the Jedi. So there we go.

7:03 Adam So we may sneak in The Mandalorian at that point because I know that everyone, everyone on the show is a fan.

7:12 Lee Oh, yes.

7:13 Adam Yeah.

7:14 Adam And also it's, yeah, I'm I'm things just end up getting stretched as it's like, yeah, but I really want to watch, I really want to talk about The Mandalorian. So yeah.

7:21 Adam That's gonna that that's that's gonna count as yeah, well, it's it's live action, there we go. We'll we'll we can differentiate from animation that way, I suppose.

7:28 Adam Um, but um.

7:31 Unknown Battle for Endor's on then.

7:34 Adam I think it probably.

7:36 Unknown Caravan of Courage.

7:37 Adam Caravan of Courage, well, we speaking, speaking of Snobby Bobby, he has requested to join us for that and if anything, just an opportunity to hang around with Bobby's always great.

7:44 Adam So yeah.

7:45 Adam I think we I think we should cover them if only so that I can put it to rest in my head that they are shite. So it's like it's one of those things that I'm the same as you, Lee.

7:55 Adam I think I'd watched them on video at the time, have never gone back and it's now sort of like, you know, in in my head, I don't even think I have an impression of it, almost.

8:03 Adam It's just, yeah, I've never gone back, so I can't be that great.

8:08 Lee I think I think finding them might be the the issue cuz when you mentioned it before, uh, when you and Bobby were discussing it.

8:13 Lee And I went and looked on eBay, um, and I could I could find the first one without too much trouble, but the second one, I could only find a box set of the two.

8:21 Lee And the cheapest version I could find was like 27 quid and I was like, I think it's gonna be.

8:23 Unknown And I know.

8:24 Lee Fuck that.

8:25 Unknown I've I've got it on DVD, so um.

8:27 Lee You can get.

8:28 Unknown I'll see if I can organize us all seeing it, so yeah.

8:30 Lee Oh, we could do a viewing party.

8:32 Unknown Ooh.

8:33 Chris Yeah.

8:34 Adam Oh my god.

8:35 Unknown That sounds like good internet is needed for that.

8:38 Adam That's very true.

8:40 Adam But still, I think, yeah, I think it's looking it's pretty much looking on the cards. They apparently are post Jedi as well.

8:47 Adam Um, because you you know what Ewoks look like. I don't think it really bears much into it, you know.

8:56 Adam I'm pretty sure that Wicket isn't involved in trade negotiations on Booyah any point.

9:01 Unknown I you say that, in the first film he talks like he does in Return of the Jedi, and in the second film, he can speak.

9:05 Unknown Because one of one of the children in it teaches him.

9:08 Chris Hm.

9:08 Adam Oh, no, you don't.

9:10 Lee Yeah.

9:10 Adam No, no.

9:11 Unknown Both films are like a cross between Willow and Star Wars if I'm honest.

9:16 Adam They do seem to I think they are more they do feel more like a fantasy film, they feel like something like Dark Crystal or something like that, where it's essentially a lot of puppets and they have a bar me in a wood. You know, that's about it. So.

9:31 Adam Um, uh, yes.

9:32 Adam And actually, that was something that will lead us into um, Revenge of the Sith, and I'm gonna go for a positive.

9:38 Adam Already here is that speak we'll come back to it, but speaking of uh, sort of knowledge of other characters. I really have no problem with Chewbacca knowing Yoda.

9:47 Adam Cause I did.

9:48 Chris Oh.

9:50 Adam I did for ages.

9:52 Adam And then I sort of watched it and it's like, this just feels like especially when it's him and there's like the S&M Wookiee next to him and Yoda just takes that guy, takes the clone assassin down.

10:04 Adam And Chewie gives him a look like, told you he was the shit.

10:07 Adam And.

10:09 Adam And then they go wandering off and he scampers up his arm and everything and I was like, yeah, no, I'm fine with that now.

10:14 Adam So it was always a thing that it was in my same wheelhouse as um C3PO being built by Anakin and all those sort of things.

10:23 Adam But yeah, weirdly enough, Chewie and Yoda, I'm quite happy for that.

10:26 Adam I'd just like to see the outtakes where they go and get pissed.

10:30 Chris But the only thing, I didn't realize, I'd completely forgotten that was in there till watching it again.

10:35 Chris But um, is it not a bit confusing then that Chewie doesn't sort of mention to Han, oh yeah, you know you're slagging off Jedis a lot and you think it's all rubbish, but I kind of know the top one and he's now teaching Luke, you know, he's probably doing quite well.

10:49 Adam I don't know if he ever came up.

10:52 Adam Cuz Luke's the only one who I think Luke's the only one who actually meets Yoda in the original, in the original trilogy.

11:01 Chris But Chewie surely would've heard of Obi-Wan as well, has being one of those famous ones that were around in that just I don't know, it just me this time has been really odd.

11:10 Adam Oh.

11:11 Chris Yeah, but most of them were killed at that, you know, order 66.

11:16 Adam Yeah.

11:17 Adam But it's I think.

11:18 Unknown But that's right at that moment, yeah.

11:20 Adam Hm.

11:21 Adam Oh, no, I definite I definitely think that it's part of it's definitely within that same area of problematic, I mean, fucking hell, in A New Hope, it's like, oh, I felt a presence I've never felt in ages, you're old teacher, the droid you've built, the droid you went on fucking flying battles with.

11:33 Adam The bloke who knows Yoda.

11:35 Adam You know, it's it's a lot that's going, he should and and his own kid.

11:39 Adam You know, and it's like, oh, I feel a presence, it's like, you're parents are white.

11:42 Chris Probably been off the cabbage.

11:44 Lee So that's I think it's all the long fur. For some reason, there's something about Chewie that in the back of my mind, whenever he isn't helping Han Solo work on the ship, he's off smoking space cabbage. Like in my mind, he's constantly blitzed out of his brain.

11:56 Lee I don't know why.

11:57 Lee I just it's just something about him, it's like, he's absolutely blazed out of his gourd, I think.

12:00 Lee At all times.

12:01 Chris So that's why he's got no idea.

12:03 Unknown I think if we're honest, he's actually picking shit out of his fur.

12:05 Adam Oh, my god.

12:06 Unknown It can't be easy going to toilet like that, can it?

12:09 Adam No, that's true.

12:11 Adam You just all you hear is and then has to go back, gets the scissors out of the glove box. Fuck sake.

12:18 Unknown From his little handbag, yeah.

12:23 Adam And his penguin bars in his thing. But, you know, it's.

12:27 Adam Isn't it a relief that we can actually, I suppose that's another thing as well is at least we can talk fondly of Chewie at the moment as well, because there's nothing in this that sort of fucks Chewie's mythos in any sort of way. Cause you do get a planet full of Wookiees and it's really annoying that you don't see that much of that battle.

12:40 Adam Because.

12:42 Adam It looks the absolute Viking shit at that point.

12:46 Adam I think that's the thing though, is is is is Chewie just in your mind the ultimate hippie? Because it's like, you've got long hair and then there's this. This is like, this is long hair in its ultimate form.

12:54 Adam You know.

12:55 Lee Long hair literally everywhere. That's what it is, yeah. Just the whole lot.

13:02 Adam Yeah.

13:04 Adam So.

13:05 Adam Uh, well, I mean, we're sort of we're we're already diving there. So, uh.

13:10 Adam Oh, yeah. Um, again, this is ridiculous, isn't it? Um, because we've already done it.

13:15 Adam Uh, spoiler and swearing alert. So I've really got to get better at doing that at the start.

13:18 Adam So, uh, fucking spoilers, all right? So there you go.

13:21 Adam That's the swearing and spoiler alert. Um, and we are covering Episode 3, Revenge of the Sith.

13:25 Adam And we now have to go back to 2005.

13:32 Adam Everyone's favorite war criminal, just think of it like the scroll going up.

13:34 Adam So it's two 2005. Everyone's favorite war criminal romance continues with Blair and Bush clinging to power like crabs on an ass hair.

13:40 Adam Pope John Paul II dies and me and you, Lee, are at a Noll Fielding gig when he does.

13:45 Lee Ooh, oh, God, yeah, I remember that.

13:48 Adam Cuz Russell Watson came on and was just saying, the Pope's dead and everyone was just going, see, this is information you didn't know you needed, isn't it? Look, I don't need a microphone. Pope's dead, you listening?

13:59 Adam Uh, Prince Harry is photographed in Nazi uniform. Prince Charles marries Camilla Parker Bowles, not sure if they were photographed in Nazi uniform, it doesn't say.

14:06 Adam Um, the 7-7 Tube and bus bombings kill 52 people and injure over 700. Uh, Islamist similar, Islamic uh, terrorists then attempt a similar.

14:16 Adam Attack on the 21st, but transport is disrupted, but no one is hurt.

14:20 Adam Uh, the in in British law, the Civil Partnership Act and the Gender Recognition Act come into effect, but so does the really successful Fox Hunting Ban.

14:29 Adam Cuz obviously, cuz obviously we've stamped that out and there's not like weird rich people in bloodying each other and getting hard-ons from anyway.

14:37 Adam Um.

14:39 Adam Magic mushrooms are recriminalized.

14:42 Adam Sorry, everyone.

14:43 Adam Um, that was a series of marches that weren't particularly well organized.

14:47 Adam I don't know why.

14:50 Adam Uh, David Cameron becomes leader of the Opposition Conservative Party, and Me at the Zoo, the first ever video is uploaded to YouTube.

14:56 Lee Wow, 2005.

14:58 Adam Yeah, yeah, 2005. That's when YouTube first launched.

15:01 Adam Uh, Rolf Harris paints the Queen's annual portrait.

15:03 Adam And.

15:04 Adam Uh, probably gets on really well with Prince Andrew.

15:06 Adam Then Celebrity Big Brother.

15:08 Adam And this is possibly my favorite 2005 fact, it's a second longer.

15:14 Adam Than most years.

15:16 Adam Uh, apparently there is a thing called a leap second and every few years they have to adjust it so that measured time syncs up properly with solar time.

15:26 Adam So, uh, yeah, so the last one before this was 1998. So yeah.

15:32 Adam So it's the longest year by a second for for nearly 10 years.

15:37 Adam So it's sort of, yeah.

15:41 Adam And for other fascinating facts like that, please stick your head in the bowl.

15:47 Adam In film, you've got White Noise, Elektra, Assault on Precinct 13, the remake.

15:52 Adam Wolf Creek, Constantine, Cursed, The Jacket.

15:55 Adam That is a fucking good film. I really need to watch that again.

15:58 Adam The Ring 2, Sin City, Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy.

16:01 Adam Uh, House of Wax, the second remake of House of Wax, uh, Dominion prequel to the Exorcist.

16:06 Adam Madagascar.

16:07 Adam The League of Gentlemen's Apocalypse, The Descent.

16:11 Adam Batman Begins or Batman Biggins, I think that's the one with Christopher Biggins in it.

16:14 Adam Uh, Land of the Dead, War of the Worlds, Fantastic Four, that's the first go.

16:19 Adam Um, fucking that up.

16:21 Adam Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Wedding Crashers, The Devil's Rejects, The Skeleton Key.

16:25 Adam The 40-Year-Old Virgin, The Brothers Grimm, The Exorcism of the Exorcism of Emily Rose.

16:29 Adam The Proposition, The Corpse Bride, A History of Violence, Serenity.

16:33 Adam Wallace and Gromit The Curse of the Were-Rabbit, Kinky Boots, the remake of The Fog, Saw II.

16:39 Adam Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Walk the Line, Brokeback Mountain, V for Vendetta and King Bloody Kong.

16:43 Adam That's not a bad year.

16:44 Adam It's got some right shite in there, but it's also got some pretty good stuff.

16:47 Lee I like the Wallace and Gromit one. That's about it.

16:51 Lee And V for Vendetta, obviously.

16:53 Chris I I like V for, yeah.

16:54 Chris I thought that was pretty good.

16:55 Unknown Hitchhiker's was good.

16:57 Adam Hitchhiker's was good, it's a shame that it didn't get.

16:59 Adam And you've got League of Gentlemen's Apocalypse.

17:01 Lee Oh, yeah.

17:02 Lee Yeah, yeah.

17:03 Adam You know, Constantine, I know you're a fan, Lee.

17:08 Adam Interestingly enough, Revenge of the Sith is the second um Star Wars film in a row.

17:12 Adam That wasn't the box office number one of the year.

17:15 Lee Oh, really?

17:16 Adam Yeah.

17:17 Adam Because all the the prequels or the original trilogy were and then uh Phantom Menace was, but then I think because of Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones wasn't and possibly because of Attack of the Clones, Revenge of the Sith wasn't either.

17:28 Adam Um, I think it lost this one this year it loses out to Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire.

17:33 Adam Um.

17:34 Chris Goblet of Fire.

17:36 Adam I I know. I just like being crude.

17:40 Adam I'm a crude man, I'm a crude and unhealthy man.

17:43 Adam On television.

17:44 Lee You'll be rewatching them all and they're brilliant.

17:46 Lee I think that they are.

17:49 Chris They are, they are a way better than I expected them to be.

17:53 Adam That's a good question.

17:55 Adam And then TV, you've got fucking Doctor Who comes back finally.

17:59 Adam The remake, the remake of The Quatermass Experiment, which incidentally was also live.

18:03 Adam Which was the night that the Pope died and me and you went to see Noll Fielding. Yeah. Uh, Nathan Barley, The Thick of It, Extras, American Dad, 8 out of 10 Cats.

18:12 Adam You start sensing the usual downturn in television quality as we go through this list, cuz you then get Mock the Week, Come Dine With Me, Deal or No Deal, Coach Trip, The Apprentice, The fucking Jeremy Kyle Show and Love Island.

18:21 Adam So.

18:22 Adam Yeah.

18:22 Adam It's I mean, from from from the pinnacle to the literal dregs of shit. So I think that really runs.

18:30 Adam Um.

18:32 Adam The big singles were Hollaback Girl, Axel F by the Crazy Frog, You're Beautiful by James Cunt.

18:39 Adam Uh, Wake Me Up When September Ends by Green Day, I'm I can feel the venom sort of just hitting in the back of my nose.

18:46 Adam Um.

18:48 Adam Uh, My Humps, The Black Eyed Peas, Fix You, Coldplay.

18:54 Adam But in the album charts you do get Francis the Mute from The Mars Volta, Suspended Animation from Phantomas, uh, Two Shoes by Empire with Teeth, Nine Inch Nails, um, Supernature, Goldfrapp.

19:02 Adam Which our lady on the Mouse and the Mask by Danger Doom.

19:06 Adam So there are, you know, there's there's things, having listened to the charts.

19:10 Adam The deaths included Ronnie Barker, Dave Allen and a man who will become relevant later on, Michael Sheard. So, yes.

19:19 Adam That was.

19:20 Adam 2005, which brings us to Revendi of the Sith.

19:23 Adam And uh, right, uh, yes, uh, Wesley, how was your first viewing of this?

19:29 Adam This was was this us at the cinema?

19:32 Unknown No.

19:32 Unknown I didn't see it till about a year later on uh DVD. Cuz I was working, I couldn't get to the pictures.

19:37 Chris Uh, you're you're the cause of the the box office flop.

19:41 Unknown Yeah.

19:42 Adam Yeah, got to see the bloody Goblet of Fire, didn't he?

19:44 Unknown So.

19:45 Unknown No, what?

19:46 Adam You went to see Goblet of Fire, I know. That's what's happened.

19:50 Unknown No, I didn't actually. I saw the first one at the pictures and then the rest I watched on DVD.

19:55 Adam Cuz.

19:55 Adam I still like seeing them all.

19:56 Adam Oh.

19:57 Chris Haven't you?

19:57 Adam I haven't seen one.

19:58 Adam So.

19:59 Adam I keep everyone always shows me the bits with Gary Oldman in Prisoner of Azkaban.

20:04 Adam Yeah.

20:05 Adam But other than that, yeah, I've not seen not certainly not intentionally seen any.

20:08 Adam Oh, and obviously if anyone, you know, we're playing drink when you spot Warwick Davis, which is again, you know, Star Wars and Potter now.

20:15 Adam Although you could be fucking leathered if you did it with obviously with uh Leprechaun.

20:20 Adam So, cuz he features quite heavily in that.

20:24 Adam Um, I don't know who it was I went to see it with. I think I'm sure, I might have gone with Sarah and I think Dean was with me as well.

20:36 Adam Lee, were was I with you for Revenge of the Sith? I'm not sure.

20:40 Lee I I I went to the midnight showing, but I don't know if I then went again with you.

20:46 Lee I've got a feeling I might have seen this one twice at the cinema cuz I couldn't decide if I liked it or not after the first time, so I tried to give it a second go.

20:55 Adam Well, I.

20:56 Adam Cause when I when I saw it at the cinema, it wasn't it definitely wasn't the midnight showing.

21:01 Adam But when I saw it at the cinema, the most curious fucking thing happened is there was a cock up with the sound.

21:08 Adam And so it started off with the Fox logo and the searchlights in absolute silence.

21:16 Adam Then the Star Wars, then a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away, absolute silence, the Star Wars logo.

21:23 Adam Just retreating back, silence.

21:26 Adam The scroll goes up and I'm thinking, this is a fucking brave move.

21:30 Adam This is the movie we're gonna want because this is cuz everyone was like, oh, but Revenge of the Sith's gonna be like The Empire Strikes Back of the prequels, so it's gonna be really fucking good.

21:38 Adam And I'm thinking, that is a brave choice. Well done, whoever's directed, you know, well done, George.

21:43 Adam Because you've.

21:44 Adam You know, you've gone for silence and just to really hammer home the fucking drama.

21:48 Adam And then it cuts into the space battle and it became apparent that the sound just wasn't on.

21:53 Adam And there was a there was a a flurry of feet and the doors going at the back of the auditorium and then suddenly in full THX, fucking stereo, the battle was.

22:01 Adam And uh.

22:02 Adam Yeah, but for but for those brief sort of like those brief couple of minutes, I was like convinced that they'd gone down.

22:09 Adam Holy shit, this is gonna be like fucking Watchmen.

22:12 Adam They've really just decided that.

22:14 Adam I mean, interestingly, Jar Jar doesn't have a line in this one.

22:16 Adam But.

22:17 Adam Yeah, I thought that they'd really gone to town with it.

22:21 Adam And actually brought back up that hope that he was gonna stand trial for war crimes as well.

22:26 Adam Um, but yeah.

22:28 Chris So.

22:28 Adam Sadly, no.

22:30 Adam Now, now did that make you really focus.

22:32 Chris Now, now did that make you really focus on the scrolling text and appreciate it more?

22:37 Adam I think weirdly enough, it made you just realize that actually that's quite a long segment.

22:44 Lee Yeah.

22:45 Chris Well, especially I I really don't like the text in this one. The first paragraph just seemed complete rubbish to me.

22:50 Adam Cuz it starts off.

22:51 Adam War.

22:52 Chris Yeah.

22:53 Adam Yeah.

22:53 Chris Exclamation mark. It just it just seems like a spoof, doesn't it?

22:56 Chris It's.

22:58 Adam Yeah.

22:58 Adam Yeah.

22:59 Adam Yeah.

23:00 Chris What were they thinking?

23:01 Adam Well, I've been doing this at to to entertain Claire when we've been watching them is I've been reading the scroll in a slightly dazed Jordi accent.

23:12 Adam And and and asking at key points if you get that in London.

23:16 Adam So.

23:17 Lee And it'd be like.

23:18 Adam With an army of clones.

23:20 Adam Do you have an army of clones?

23:22 Adam In London.

23:23 Adam And um, yeah, I've been sort of and yeah, so that was fantastic.

23:28 Adam Cuz it was like, episode one, episode three, Revenge of the Sith, war.

23:37 Adam It's yeah, it's somewhat sort of it is a somewhat ludicrous one.

23:41 Adam I know what you mean.

23:42 Adam It feels very cuz a lot of the others do are much more.

23:45 Adam Sort of just they're setting the stage.

23:47 Adam But not in a not in a sort of that feels like suddenly the guy from The Sun has been asked to do the fucking scroll for it.

23:51 Adam Yeah.

23:52 Adam War.

23:53 Adam Calducoin.

23:55 Adam Dirty lightsaber sensation.

23:58 Adam Yeah.

23:59 Adam Grievous.

24:00 Adam Grievous reveals his top three cough medicines.

24:03 Lee Yeah, that's what he needs.

24:05 Adam Yeah, that's what he needs.

24:06 Lee A robot in a cough.

24:07 Lee Like.

24:07 Adam Yeah.

24:08 Chris Yeah.

24:09 Lee I just I don't get what they were thinking.

24:11 Lee I don't.

24:12 Lee Don't get it.

24:13 Adam He's still had his old lungs.

24:13 Chris Yeah, he's he's a cyborg, so I guess they just wanted to make it obvious to everyone that he's more than a droid.

24:17 Adam Yeah.

24:18 Chris By giving him a cough.

24:19 Chris Yeah, maybe that's the choice to do.

24:21 Adam He's.

24:21 Adam See his fleshy bits.

24:22 Chris Yeah.

24:23 Adam Around his eyes.

24:24 Adam And but.

24:25 Adam Um, Gary Oldman was meant to be the voice of General Grievous.

24:28 Unknown Ah, that was my trivia fact.

24:29 Adam Oh.

24:29 Adam Sorry.

24:29 Adam Yeah.

24:30 Adam Yeah.

24:30 Unknown Sorry.

24:30 Adam You got another one.

24:31 Unknown Yeah.

24:32 Adam But I what was the reason he couldn't do it? Was it something to do with like the actors union or something like that?

24:36 Unknown They wanted him to record it in a foreign country to America and because of the screen actors guild, it would have gone against it. So in an act of solidarity, he said, no.

24:43 Adam Oh, fair enough.

24:43 Adam That's all right.

24:44 Adam That's fair enough.

24:45 Adam But um, yes, I think it's the sound effects, it's the sound designer, isn't it, who does the voice of Grievous?

24:50 Adam Right.

24:51 Adam What was his name?

24:52 Adam Ben Burtt.

24:53 Unknown I remember.

24:54 Unknown Ben Burtt, also, yeah.

24:56 Adam Yeah, but the cough is George Lucas's cough.

24:58 Chris Hm.

24:59 Adam Apparently he had a really bad cough during during the making of this and this is sounding a bit like, hold on. George, you having some crazy ideas you again?

25:06 Adam I've got a cough.

25:07 Adam Right.

25:07 Adam Get it on there.

25:08 Adam No, like, okay.

25:09 Lee Cough Cameo.

25:10 Adam Yeah.

25:11 Adam That's why.

25:11 Adam That's why this took slightly longer to film than all the others is because obviously all his directions were just caught up in the middle of like a massive hacking cough in fit.

25:15 Adam So it's like.

25:16 Adam If you start.

25:16 Adam If you start with that.

25:18 Adam If you start with that, don't.

25:20 Adam And as soon as they turn the microphone on.

25:21 Unknown And as soon as they turn the microphone on, they'll have to wait for him to flem up, didn't they?

25:24 Adam Oh.

25:25 Adam No.

25:25 Adam No.

25:26 Adam God, what a charming thought.

25:27 Adam He got it from his big Goiter.

25:29 Adam So.

25:30 Adam Yeah.

25:31 Lee Saying about the about um the scroll and stuff, one of the things I do like about this is it is straight into that massive space battle.

25:34 Adam Yeah.

25:35 Lee That that doesn't let up for like 20 odd minutes, it's non-stop action, as soon as that scroll cuts, it's amazing.

25:42 Adam Yeah.

25:43 Unknown On the original cut of the film, the entire bit on um.

25:47 Unknown Uh, Grievous's ship and the rescue of Palpatine was an hour long and they had to cut the whole thing back.

25:54 Adam Oh.

25:55 Unknown Cause you got there was uh there was loads of different bits that they had, you know, it wasn't just getting from that office and the ship all tilting up. There was loads more other little bits and pieces, but.

26:01 Chris And and it was it was fairly brutal with Dooku.

26:04 Adam Oh, I mean he got.

26:05 Chris But yeah, by Anakin.

26:07 Adam I think it's a daf move though, because what if if Christopher Lee comes back more powerful than you could imagine.

26:12 Adam Yeah.

26:13 Adam That's that's that's that's some bad fucking Jedi.

26:14 Adam That is, that's just that's gonna come back on your threefold.

26:16 Adam I incidentally, as a as a running theme for the show, did you notice that Palpatine had brought his own bad back chair?

26:22 Adam Um, even when he was kidnapped.

26:23 Adam Bring me chair.

26:24 Adam I'm not going to bring me chair.

26:28 Lee Economically designed.

26:30 Adam I I didn't notice it, but I'll tell you what I did notice and I don't know whether you guys saw it, I didn't I've not noticed it before, but I watched it on this.

26:34 Adam I saw it on this viewing.

26:36 Adam So after that big battle, uh, when they take the space bus, I'm guessing, um, to the Senate, cuz it drops off, um, Anakin.

26:44 Adam And Obi-Wan stays on it and it takes him off elsewhere.

26:48 Adam Um, but when they drop him at the Senate, if you as they're coming into land, if you look on the dock below.

26:54 Adam Uh, the Millennium Falcon's coming into land.

26:57 Adam Um.

26:58 Lee Yeah.

26:58 Adam Yeah, which I'd never noticed, but in start contrast to the story that we get in Solo.

27:01 Adam Which I don't want to obviously blow me beans before we get there, um, it's the Millennium Falcon in the shape in which we know it.

27:05 Adam And it doesn't have the uh missing escape pod with it, so just putting that out there.

27:10 Unknown That's just the Carellian transport craft.

27:11 Adam Yeah.

27:13 Chris Ah, modifications.

27:15 Adam Yeah.

27:16 Adam I have to say, I agree with you, Lee, I think that.

27:19 Adam Cause weirdly enough, the opening bit is the only time that I get the sense of Anakin and fucking Obi-Wan.

27:26 Adam You know, that at that point, that feels like a series I'd want to see.

27:30 Adam Yeah, when when it's just them dicking about in the lift and everything else like that and they're kind of and it's just a wee bit cocky and but, you know, it it feels like proper it feels like a friendship.

27:39 Adam And it's a weird one and it's so much better than the sort of like, oh, Obi-Wan Biggin Biggin.

27:45 Adam And.

27:47 Adam Yeah.

27:48 Adam I now kind of get it, you know, it's sort of.

27:50 Chris Hm.

27:51 Chris But I think Anakin is better in this all around.

27:55 Chris I mean, I'm sure.

27:56 Adam Oh, yeah.

27:56 Chris Yeah.

27:57 Chris Like overall is for me is much more believable his turning.

28:02 Adam I yeah, I think I think he just um what's his name, Hayden Christensen, I mean, poor sod, I can't remember his name when we're praising him.

28:11 Adam But last last last week where it was just a wall to wall diss, and it's like, yeah, I just said his name so many fucking times.

28:15 Adam But yeah, I I he definitely steps up from the uh the sort of whiny emo Anakin.

28:20 Adam Of Attack of the Clones.

28:21 Adam And I do find I find him more plausible, there's still elements where it's like.

28:26 Adam I mean, the fucking the business with the Jedi with with him and Padme, it's still is a bit of a vacuum.

28:30 Adam Cuz it all feels a bit sort of like, but I love you.

28:34 Adam Can you say it with more feeling?

28:36 Adam But I love you.

28:38 Adam No, that's exactly the same way you said it, wasn't it?

28:41 Adam And um, but sort of in all the other interactions, I really I think him and I mean, him and Ian McDiarmid.

28:49 Chris Yeah.

28:50 Chris I mean, to be fair, obviously like Ian is is is fantastic.

28:51 Chris So he does do well to keep up with him.

28:53 Adam Hm.

28:54 Chris In that.

28:55 Adam Cuz that is not an easy task.

28:56 Chris Yeah, cuz he is excellent in this.

28:58 Lee He does slimy in this so well, like the bits when you can just see him.

29:02 Lee He says something and then you see his eyes sitting there and he he sort of looks at him waiting for it to sink in and then, but I can sort out whatever and it's like, oh, you horrible grooming piece of shit. He's such a black.

29:14 Adam Do you know what it says in my notes?

29:17 Adam You haven't seen any Gladiator movies.

29:19 Adam Cuz it does have that air to it.

29:21 Adam Cal, do coin.

29:22 Adam Dirty lightsaber sensation.

29:25 Adam Yeah.

29:26 Adam I'm not.

29:27 Adam Anyway.

29:28 Adam Um.

29:28 Adam I've gotta say, I did get from this.

29:30 Adam Honestly, one of the best bits of this film for me, I did get a chill when that mask went on and he took that first breath in it.

29:34 Adam I did kind of go.

29:36 Adam Yeah.

29:36 Unknown Oh, yeah.

29:37 Unknown Oh.

29:38 Adam Well, it's actually got.

29:38 Unknown Well, it's actually got my favorite sound effect in it.

29:40 Unknown Which is when the mask clicks on and it clicked, you got that high pitch sound.

29:43 Adam Oh, yeah.

29:44 Adam I just love it.

29:45 Adam Cuz you get that love you get that lovely.

29:47 Adam Vacuum sound when when the helmet goes on and it's just yeah, that's beautiful.

29:53 Adam Yeah.

29:54 Chris After appreciating that so much.

29:56 Chris Am I the only one that didn't like the way he said, no?

29:59 Adam Oh, God.

30:00 Adam Yeah.

30:01 Adam Completely with you on that one.

30:02 Adam Man that was just like.

30:03 Chris It was just like, oh, that could have been so perfect.

30:05 Chris And just somehow it's got too much of the whiny.

30:09 Adam Motherfucker.

30:10 Adam Yeah.

30:11 Adam It's it's very Matt Berry in the IT Crowd, isn't it?

30:13 Adam Father.

30:14 Adam It's.

30:15 Adam It's that sort of level of, you know, mid mid-afternoon American soap opera sort of level.

30:20 Adam Depending on.

30:20 Unknown Depending on what version of Return of the Jedi you've got, it comes up again.

30:24 Adam Does it?

30:25 Adam Yeah.

30:25 Adam You shitting me.

30:26 Unknown There there is a I think it's one of the I don't think it's the Blu-ray.

30:29 Unknown It might be the last DVD one, when he picks up the Emperor and he throws him down the, he goes, hello.

30:36 Adam Yes.

30:37 Adam Yeah, you're right.

30:39 Adam I've I have seen that cut that version of it and it's yeah, it's bloody fucking stupid.

30:42 Adam Not only that, but also you've suddenly got the coolest fucking voice in the world.

30:45 Adam You've got the voice of James.

30:46 Adam Yeah, with with mechanical additives and everything.

30:50 Adam And yeah, then you just say get it to go, don't spoil the magic.

30:56 Unknown No, I'll just use a table.

30:57 Adam Oh, right.

30:57 Adam Okay.

30:58 Adam They're all imagine you're in a beret and like, you know, a big shirt.

31:04 Adam I wear a beret.

31:04 Adam I ain't got anything else on.

31:07 Adam Oh, God.

31:07 Adam Yeah.

31:08 Adam No.

31:09 Adam No.

31:10 Adam Well, what does that leave, Adam?

31:11 Adam I'm gonna go with a seven.

31:12 Adam Because I think much the same as Lee, I was kind of thinking cuz it's 6.5, but that's what I gave Attack of the Clones. I'm going with a seven just because this entertained me more and pissed me off less than how Attack of the Clones did. Because I think the balance is getting right as well.

31:31 Adam Where it's like, yeah, the.

31:33 Adam Keep Padme and Anakin to essentials rather than whole bits about floating apples and shit. And, you know, there are there are flaws in it, but they're enjoyable flaws.

31:43 Adam Um, such as, you know, if if nothing else, the fucking chicken lizard chasing the blowjob machine from South Park with a four-armed robot on it.

31:49 Adam That's entertaining.

31:50 Adam You know, I have not seen that in any other film.

31:53 Adam And that is always a good rating for me.

31:55 Adam I've just worked it out.

31:57 Adam So I've just remembered about stupid puppy legs, I it really reminded me something and I couldn't remember what it is. It's gonna be really obscure and most people are probably not gonna know it, but I know that Adam is definitely going to You know, in Invader Zim, when Gir gets in the brain of the house and turns it into a dog to go and buy go and buy burritos.

32:08 Adam Yeah.

32:09 Adam And the house turns into a giant dog.

32:10 Adam That's what it reminded me of.

32:11 Adam Burdito.

32:12 Adam It really is.

32:14 Adam It really fucking is.

32:16 Adam So, and if you've not watched Invader Zim and you're listening to a Star Wars podcast.

32:19 Adam Watch Invader Zim, it's fucking great.

32:22 Adam Genius.

32:23 Adam You you'll just you'll get it.

32:24 Adam It's yeah, it's it's the the sci-fi fans show definitely.

32:28 Adam And back to gaming, I've recently gone back to playing my PlayStation 2 recently, and in the games there, I found uh Destroy All Humans, which is the same guy who did the voice of Invader Zim doing that voice for an alien.

32:37 Adam And it.

32:38 Adam Oh.

32:38 Adam No.

32:39 Adam I heard.

32:39 Adam Oh, I said that is that is a great game. That really is. You wouldn't have played it cuz I think I've got your one. That's very probable. Oh, I said, that is that is a great game. That really is. And yes, so right, I'm just I'm just double checking my maths here. So talking amongst yourselves, you know, because uh this could be uh a week's podcast that will be shorter than the film itself. Not hard at 2020 minutes. Uh, Lee, what is your rating out of 10? And what what what out of 10 are we going to do to uh 10 uh 10 chicken lizards, out of 10 chicken lizards, how many chicken lizards do you give it? I'm gonna give this six and a half. Um, now I know that was what I gave the last film. Um, but there are elements of this I did like, so I think side by side, I would prefer this of the two, but again, it's too close to call necessarily in points. So, um, yeah, so just to clarify, I didn't get that really complicated, didn't it? I know, but I know problem.

33:24 Adam If I give this seven, I've only got three points left to play with and I've still got another like seven films, so I'm trying to be careful.

33:28 Adam That's that's very that's very true.

33:30 Adam I think I think also also I think it's um that is a very a very accurate statement that Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith really feel kind of similar in it's like, there's some really fucking good bits in this, but there's some also some really fucking bad bits in this. Yeah. And yeah, so definitely I think Revenge is the is the key one of the of the three.

33:51 Adam And Revenge of the Sith, obviously it's Revenge because originally it was Revenge of the Jedi, wasn't it?

33:58 Adam In uh Episode 6 was original was originally Revenge of the Jedi. When we were kids, it was that that was the original title for it.

34:05 Adam But subsequently they're saying that they called it that so that illegal merchandise would be released called that.

34:09 Adam So again, the actual production story changed, you know, in our lifetime, 40 odd years, it wasn't the story we were told back then.