Gremlins 2

Name: Gremlins 2: The New Batch
Director: Joe Dante
Released: 1990
Cast: Zach Galligan, Phoebe Cates, John Glover, Robert J. Prosky, Robert Picardo

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LeeGood evening and welcome to horror.

LeeI'm Lee.

ChrisI'm Chris.

AdamI'm Adam.

LeeAnd we're here for our what's becoming our regular Up Yours to Christmas, which is we've stopped doing Christmas films at Christmas time.

AdamWe've done most of the ones that Gremlins including the original of this, I still maintain you can claim Gremlins 2 as a Christmas film on the basis that the Gremlins are Christmas monsters as defined by their first appearance being a Christmas film.

ChrisI can go for that.

LeeYeah, I'm fine with that.

Leeyes, so we are here for 1990's Gremlins 2.

AdamThe New Batch.

LeeYes.

LeeI assume everybody's seen this before, obviously.

ChrisYes.

LeeYes.

LeeI I've got to say, this is one of those films that I always think, I don't know, it just it never comes off my shelf and then every time I do watch it, I'm like, oh yeah, it's actually better than the first one, it surprises me every time.

AdamI think because this is this seems to be a thing online, I think the the common consensus is that it's not great and I think mostly it's I think it's because it doesn't take the first film seriously.

LeeYeah.

AdamAnd sort of almost and it's a it's actually a thing within its own fictitious world apparently that the film Gremlins actually exists.

LeeAnd yeah.

LeeIt is it.

AdamI think a lot of people just sort of didn't like that sort of meta-ness or sort of.

ChrisWas it was it ahead of its time?

LeeYes, 100%.

AdamYeah, I think so.

AdamYeah, because it's just a it's it's I don't the nearest equivalent is kind of Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

LeeYeah.

AdamWhere the first film and not to say that Gremlins is like it's not a heavy duty horror, but it's that's the same sort of transition between the two or like Evil Dead and Evil Dead 2.

ChrisThe is the same distance between.

AdamYou know, it's that same sort of thing of it's like no, no, we just we I mean this is this is just a Looney Tunes film.

LeeYeah, which they which they know and reference which I do like, they're like they do they are well aware.

ChrisThat's it.

LeeYeah, I I just find it's such a great I saw this when it first came out at the cinema.

LeeAnd it was great on the big screen, but yeah, it's just it's one of those films that doesn't come off the shelf anywhere near as frequently as it should.

ChrisIt should.

LeeI it's straight into the action, that's the thing, the first film does all the setup, so it has the beauty of just dropping straight in and you get Gremlins straight away, no sodding about, within 10 minutes, it's all kicking off and you know what the rules are.

LeeYou know John Aston as soon as he turns up and starts digging around with the water fountain, you know it's all going to turn to shit.

ChrisI even like how they joke about well what if you go through different time zones and what if you feed them but they have a bit of food because that's the kind of thing that I bet, you know, loads of people saying what surely.

ChrisHow do you know when it's past 12 exactly?

AdamThat's what Joe Dante said was that that bit was it was all the questions that kids had asked him after seeing the first one.

ChrisYeah, cause asked me all those and I was like yeah.

ChrisYou know, and then and then the way they do it is very funny that that it's kicking off there.

AdamWell I love I love the fact that there is there is also an element of sort of like not necessarily the kids who asked it, but certainly the grownups who asked it, it was just like look just shut up and enjoy the movie or we'll sit Gremlin on you.

ChrisIt's perfect.

AdamAnd yeah.

AdamI think there's oh one thing then, so I saw it on Pirate but it had the bit where the film breaks down.

LeeYeah.

AdamBecause obviously it had the cinema version of it, which I'm assuming we all saw the one where Hulk Hogan turns up.

ChrisYeah, yeah.

AdamYeah, and I found out that the or the video version of it, they changed that, so it was a different thing, it's not got Hulk Hogan in it.

AdamAnd basically the video looks like the video choose up and you've got static he's on he's on the Blu-ray as an extra I think on the DVD as well.

ChrisAll right, as if it's.

AdamBut

ChrisIt's more like your TV's gone wrong.

AdamYeah, so it's like so it's like the video has just chewed up.

ChrisYeah, yeah.

AdamAnd then it goes into a John Wayne Western, but they've sort of put the Gremlins in there too like John Wayne telling them to get off his land and they're behind a cow laughing at him in cowboy hats.

AdamBut apparently this was one of the things where like the producers were all sort of like saying to Joe Dante no you can't do that cinema bit because people will think it's gone wrong in the cinema.

AdamAnd basically Joe Dante proved to them he did like he showed us he did a screening and he was like, look no one thought for a second that's what had happened as soon as the Gremlins popped up.

ChrisWas really.

ChrisOh, I'd love it if they did, but yeah.

AdamIt's sort of but but apparently the weirdest part is is so they never got any complaints about it in the cinema, but they the videotape did kept getting returned because people thought it had despite the fact that you're then watching Gremlin the Western.

ChrisWhat at that point.

ChrisYeah.

AdamYou know what I mean, you surely know the but apparently.

AdamI think no one got past when it sort of just chewed up and the static went.

AdamAnd then saw a bit of a cowboy film and it's like oh well there's been a mastering fault, we'll send the tape back.

AdamSo they didn't have loads of returns on that.

AdamBut and I know this is a weird thing and I feel like I'm hijacking a great fucking film here.

AdamBut I have been sitting on this bit of information for ages.

ChrisAnd Ooh.

AdamBasically, I was in you know a a thinking state one night and I I was suddenly went Hulk Hogan's always looked the same and Hulk Hogan's still around, but Hulk Hogan's always looked about 60.

LeeYeah.

ChrisYeah.

AdamAnd so so I then looked up how old Hulk Hogan was and then obviously this was coming up, so I wanted to wait to give you this revelation.

AdamHulk Hogan prepare to feel better about yourselves, lads, Hulk Hogan is 36.He's 36.

ChrisIn the.

LeeWow.

AdamThis.

ChrisYeah.

AdamAnd it's like, you know.

AdamI mean incredibly, you know, a genuine athlete and someone who is, you know, capable of things that I could not do.

ChrisOh, I wouldn't mock him if he was, you know, just a few feet away.

AdamBut 36 he do not look.

ChrisGod in life.

AdamAnd yeah, sorry, I just I know it sounds mental and like I say, shut up and just it sits, but yeah, I've been waiting to tell you guys that he's 36 because of how fucking absurd it feels.

LeeWow.

AdamBut the reason they got to do it all is Joe Dante said basically Gremlins was a big success as we know it was the fourth most successful film when we were looking at Gremlins came out same year as Ghostbusters.

ChrisYeah.

Adamso it was a big success, they immediately wanted a sequel, Joe Dante was really not interested and was like is a story I've done it, it's it's done I don't want to rehash it or anything like that.

ChrisIt's done, yeah.

AdamSo he just for making money basically.

AdamAnd so Warner Brothers shopped it around a lot and tried to get other directors in and everything.

AdamAnd that process was going on for ages, obviously, and eventually they went back to Joe Dante and he just said, yeah, I'll do it if I have complete creative control.

ChrisThat's the way to do it.

AdamSo everything he wanted goes in this film.

ChrisWhich.

ChrisYeah, everything goes.

AdamYeah, literally, it's just sort of like he just was given cart blank and three times the budget of the original with basically.

AdamAnd it's like, yeah, just go and make what you want.

AdamAnd yeah.

ChrisI really had forgotten just how satirical and self-referential it was.

ChrisIt has been a long time since I've seen it, in my head it was a similar sort of comedy to the first one and.

LeeI mean I so in the run up to it before we actually watched the film, we went on YouTube, Lady Jennifer and I and watched the original theatrical trailer followed by the Key and Peel sketch just to get us in the mood.

ChrisOh, yeah.

AdamRight from.

AdamYeah.

Leebut it is like it really like I laughed out loud more at this than I have at anything in ages, like it is very silly and over the top and it is there is so much crammed into it.

LeeBut it all works.

ChrisIt does, yeah.

LeeLike.

ChrisThe characters are perfect together.

LeeYeah, the Brainy Gremlin and the Female Gremlin and oh the Phantom of the Opera Gremlin, like it just made me roar, it's such a funny film.

ChrisWhat's the what's the goofy one and the like is he basically a crime boss, he's clever but just a bit dull.

AdamThose two are called oh what is it, Lenny and George as in of Mice and Men.

ChrisAll right.

ChrisOh.

AdamSo yeah, so you have got one who's like a sort of little sort of criminal and who knows what's going on.

ChrisWho knows what's going on?

AdamYeah, the sort of smart one and his muscle basically, his you know.

Adamand and I think the one with the rolling eyes is called Daffy.

Chris

AdamOr something like that, but or that might be too near Daffy Duck, I don't know.

ChrisHe's.

Adambut yeah and Mohawk.

AdamBut yeah, it's it's nice that you get those little ones.

AdamAnd what we were actually when this was coming up, me and Clare were talking about whether we felt we could show Ted Gremlins this Christmas.

AdamAnd actually, I think Ted would be fine with Gremlins apart from the fact that he has absolutely no attention span.

AdamYou know, he is it's fucked unless he's getting, you know, right, immediately this is delivering.

ChrisYeah.

AdamSo we are thinking plot-wise, it's not like, you know, he needs to know the ins and outs of every relationship or you know, the dramatic twists and turns of the first film or anything else like that, you know, but why is that character doing that, despite the fact they seem like this?

ChrisYeah.

AdamYou know, or any of that is going to affect him.

AdamSo we just thought we're going to show him this one.

ChrisYeah.

AdamBecause I think it will just appeal to him more.

AdamIt will the immediate fact that you've got Daffy Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck at the start.

ChrisYeah.

LeeYeah.

AdamYou know, that would hook him in anyway because he's been enjoying Looney Tunes.

AdamAnd it actually would set it up right because it's like right what you're going to get is.

ChrisIs pretty much.

AdamWise cracks and slapstick, violent slapstick and it's you know.

LeeAnd Christopher Lee, I can't believe I still can't believe they got Christopher Lee to be in this.

ChrisI'd forgotten he like so when I first saw him again, I was like, oh yeah, it is in this and then at first it's like, oh, he only has a small role.

ChrisAnd he does, but actually he's kind of perfect for it.

ChrisI mean, it's not obviously his biggest acting role ever, right?

ChrisBut he's such a, you know, devilish sort of mastermind weird science like just got that dark.

AdamIt's playing creepy.

ChrisYeah.

AdamYeah.

AdamHe just absolutely.

ChrisThe way he's offering them what's what's offering them diseases.

AdamYeah, I can get you diseases you'd like that, wouldn't you?

LeeI've got to say there's a new documentary about Christopher Lee just come out on Sky Arts, I think it is, the Life and Deaths.

AdamOh yeah.

LeeDo yourself a favor, watch it it's really good.

LeeAt the point at which he gets nighted, turn it off.

ChrisOf course.

LeeIt's an hour and a half and it's really nice and it's lots of people telling personal story.

LeeJoe Dante and Peter Jackson and everybody do talking heads.

LeeIt's really nice.

LeeWow.

LeeAnd we all know that he can be a bit he could be a bit of a dick from time to time.

LeeBut literally, the closing scene is that it's him doing a news thing after he's been knighted and then just totally tearing into the poor young girl who's just interviewed him, yeah, so like it's really nice all the way through and then at the end it's just like and just to close it all off is him being a bit of a prick and it's like oh, that's such a shame.

ChrisWow.

ChrisI mean to be to be fair, I really want to see that bit now.

ChrisBut.

ChrisYeah, that that sounds good.

AdamI mean that's the thing it's like it's like those flashes you see from interviews when it's like.

AdamAnd I said to them, go back to the text and there was nothing of scope in the script and I said very well, I just won't say anything then, that's why I was silent and film.

AdamAnd you like fucking hell, Chris.

LeeYeah, no, that's that's nothing compared to what he does to this poor little this poor young girl who's interviewing him for the news, but but yeah, go and watch that for yourself.

LeeI'd forgotten how many actors this shares with the Burbs.

LeeI'm assuming that both share the same time.

LeeThere's three actors from the Burbs in this.

LeeTwo of them in.

AdamIt was about 86, 87, it's pretty this, definitely.

LeeYeah.

AdamIt's between that's between Gremlins and this.

LeeOh, really, oh, god.

AdamYeah, I'm sure it is.

AdamYeah, because the Burbs is definitely 80s.

AdamSo yeah.

LeeYeah.

Adambut no, you have got loads in there.

AdamAnd in tiny fucking roles as well.

LeeYeah.

AdamIt is just again, probably where it's like Joe Dante's like, oh, I've got complete control, so it's like, right, I'm going to get Gomez Adams in for you know, for a minute tops.

LeeFirst.

LeeYeah.

AdamI mean, obviously John Aston's fucking amazing.

AdamSo I don't know.

AdamHe's the one I always forgets in here.

LeeYeah.

AdamBecause I always remember I always remember Christopher Lee is because of how well he does it.

AdamAnd it does make me wonder because there was that story about him and Peter Cushion getting chucked out of a Bugs Bunny cartoon for laughing too much.

AdamSo I'm assuming that Christopher Lee gets Looney Tunes.

LeeYeah.

AdamAnd gets, you know, so he's pitching this exactly right.

AdamHe's, you know, it's I mean it seems obvious to say, but it's like, you know, he's playing it dead straight because it's that's what Christopher Lee does.

AdamBut, you know, he knows that he's not.

ChrisYeah.

AdamAnd he's perfect as it.

LeeAnd John Glover as well, like I only know John Glover from two roles, which is this and Scrooge where effectively he plays the same character in both.

ChrisYeah.

LeeHe just nails it, he's just got that like very arrogant, completely oblivious to the scope of everything that's going on around him, just down to a tee, I think he's just excellent.

AdamIt's interesting because it's because it's fucking clear who he is.

LeeYeah.

AdamBut in that way that was that more how he was seen then is like this in a more benevolent light.

LeeYeah.

AdamAs it were of this sort of like oh he's like this, but then I think John Glover said that he made the decision to because it was written evil.

Chris

ChrisYeah.

AdamAnd it's sort of yeah, it's sort of it certainly comes over better than that character should particularly these days.

LeeYeah.

AdamYou know, I mean it's sort of yeah.

AdamBecause when he's I mean basically he's Trump and Ted Turner because he liked colorized movies.

LeeYeah.

AdamYou know, and Grandpa Fred saying about yeah, he only likes movies in color and I've seen this film a lot thinking about it.

ChrisYeah.

LeeYeah.

LeeYeah, I mean.

Leeagain, just to go back because it is something that I I don't remember noticing in my previous viewings, but I definitely got this time.

LeeWe talked about it when we talked about the first Gremlins film and we said about how it's completely slapstick and comedy, but then it has that really sad moment when Phoebe Kates talks about her dad getting, you know, dying in the chimney.

LeeAnd when they did it in this one where someone mentioned Lincoln, she immediately, yeah, and you can see like Zack Galligan in the background just like rolling his eyes and oh shit, here she goes.

ChrisYeah.

LeeShe's going to bring the whole thing down again like and it's it's that meta self-referential stuff that we now love that's become such a massive thing after scream, but they were doing it like you know, five years before and it's it just works so well.

AdamI think that's the thing is, I think that's why I didn't work.

AdamI think that like in terms of success.

AdamBecause you know, oh yeah, you know we were saying about it was like the fourth biggest film of 84.

Chris

AdamI think this was like the 30 I did write it down, I think it's like the 31st.

LeeWhat?

AdamOr something is, yeah, 31.

AdamLike most successful film of 1990.

AdamNow.

Chris

AdamIt's sort of it's sort of around the same time as Batman, which I think just took all the cultural air and like but Joe Dante basically was like, yeah, it was too long, you know, because obviously by this point he'd he'd already said no I don't want to do a sequel.

LeeYeah.

AdamThey came back and said do you want to do a sequel for triple the budget, can I do it can I do everything I like without you interfering, yes, okay.

AdamYeah.

AdamIt was named twice.

LeeYeah, they do New York, New York, yeah.

LeeAnd they do New York, New York at the end in the lobby and stuff.

Lee

LeeYeah, it I'd forgotten just how New York-centric it is.

LeeAnd I love it for that.

LeeI mean it's fantastic.

ChrisYeah.

AdamAgain, it's just I think also it was it's just like oh no, it's the right sort of thing to do.

AdamBecause you had like small town for Gremlins.

Chris

AdamSo no, we now want to you don't want them to do it in the same setting, you want to see what chaos they can cause in a city.

ChrisLet's go big.

Chris

AdamYou know, with sort of huge buildings and stuff that they can get into.

AdamAnd I love that as well, I love the the like the I love the fact that the clamp building is obviously shit.

ChrisI was thinking that.

AdamHe's almost like the Gremlins are drawn to its inefficiency, it's like really we could really make a fucking disaster out of this.

AdamWe really could.

ChrisIt was nearly WWF.

AdamYeah.

LeeAnd I love the announcement as well that the the announcement over the channel at the very beginning that just goes on in the background, it just says owner of this car registration, please remove it because it's dirty and old.

ChrisYeah.

LeeAnd it is they just want everything to be clean and pristine and they don't want anything with any character anywhere near the building.

AdamI think that's the thing is it's the gags are on every level, it's the characters, it's the situations and it's those little touches like that, those sort of little sort of just so so many.

ChrisSo so many.

AdamIt's like airplane, almost.

ChrisYeah, yeah, no, it is, yeah, that's definitely.

AdamIt's that particular like the walk through the lobby, I suppose they're a disaster film, a Gremlins film is technically a disaster film, it's like this is the towering inferno, but it was because little ass was got in.

LeeYeah.

AdamI I cannot, I cannot overstate my ludicrous affection for the Gremlins, just just them as a chaotic mass are oh, they're just so splendidly heartwarming, this of just just everything.

AdamAnd you've got like you say, you've got new ones in this like you've got figures.

AdamYeah.

AdamCharacters almost like there's more than it's more than just a hold and spark.

LeeYeah.

AdamYou and no, Stripe, sorry.

Adamin this and then you've got yeah.

AdamBut you've got a few more of those but also just the general sort of futsal chaos of the Gremlins really tickles me in this film.

AdamIt's just yeah.

AdamMuch like my favorite bit that's all my favorite bits in the original is like the bit where they're in the barn and stuff like that, you know.

LeeYeah.

LeeYeah, and this film is just that for an hour and a half effectively, they're all just and they do, they all have their own little personal.

LeeI mean, obviously, the Brainy Gremlin is the is the one that you remember.

ChrisHe's great.

AdamYeah.

Leeyeah, and the female Gremlin as I mentioned before, I love the gargoyle one as well.

ChrisYeah.

LeeLike it just oh, it's just it's so so well written and so well done.

LeeAnd it does that's why the Key and Peel sketch works because if you describe it to someone, it's an awful mess and it's ludicrous, but when you watch it, it's utterly hilarious.

ChrisPerfectly, yeah.

AdamI've never I've never from that sketch, I've never understood where they stood on Gremlins 2, whether it's a whether it's a genuine attack or just, you know, because.

ChrisI I thought it I thought it wasn't, I thought it was again, you know, like yeah, stating clearly, it is ridiculous.

AdamThat's what I mean, I think I think it because to know it that well.

ChrisYeah.

AdamBut but I think that's the thing with it's sort of it's intelligent and silly.

ChrisYeah.

AdamBecause the dialogue is funny, like the brain Gremlin gets some amazing bits, you know, where it's like what is it where we're advising all our clients to put their money in the can foods and shotguns.

ChrisYeah.

AdamYeah, yeah.

AdamI think I actually posted that on here the night like the night lockdown started because it was just Yeah, but just this sort of yeah, just this lovely wave of scaliness that sort of.

AdamSilly not stupid.

LeeYes.

LeeNo, that's exactly it that's exactly why it works.

AdamI am not taking any credit for that, that was just been flashed to me by by my scientific advisor and my good lady wife, who are one of the same.

LeeYeah.

AdamAnd yeah, she's just flashed that up.

AdamSilly not stupid.

LeeNo, that's exactly right.

LeeYeah.

AdamAnd it is.

ChrisVery good.

AdamSo.

AdamWell, well done, mate.

AdamWe'll this is just going to this we'll just let her do it, I think.

AdamWe we're unnecessary at this point.

LeeThe music in this as well, I think.

ChrisYeah.

LeeIt's.

ChrisIt's just it's just been going around my head since watching it.

LeeThe.

LeeAs soon.

LeeAs the theme tune came on, Jennifer went, why is this not my ringtone never said this is my ringtone and it's perfect.

AdamIt sums them up so well.

LeeYeah.

AdamEspecially because you get that sort of like wontsy Broadway bit in the middle of it.

AdamIs sort of.

AdamSo.

AdamSo you've got the the main of the main bit of it and then that sort of yeah.

AdamBut.

LeeAnd the other.

AdamJerry Goldsmith's in this.

AdamJerry.

AdamGoldsmith's one of the guy, he's the old guy with white hair who's at the yogurt stand.

LeeThat.

LeeSo.

AdamBecause.

AdamLiterally I mean I think that's the thing is like you were saying like you've got in the Burbs, you've got did you spot Dr. Klopec?

LeeYes, yes, I did.

AdamHe's the guy having a fag who gets sacked on CCTV, he never actually appears on a proper camera in the.

ChrisIs it?

ChrisYeah.

AdamAnd and the security guard is oh, what's his name, you know the Yeah, so he's you know, he's the neighbor from the Burbs and it's like they're all neighbors fucking.

LeeThat why I don't know.

LeeYes.

Lee

LeeSorry, and the other music is what so I love the fact it's got faith no more surprise you're dead on here.

LeeYeah.

Leeand South of Heaven, I believe it is definitely a slayer track.

LeeI think it.

AdamOh, no, it's Angel of Death.

LeeOh, it's Angel of Death.

AdamIt's that middle bit of Angel of Death.

AdamYou know, the the one that public enemy sampled for she watched channel zero.

AdamIt's that and Barry Adamson did as well.

AdamSorry.

AdamI just I've been I've been having a fight with myself because I've been doing the I've been putting music on the posts on Instagram.

AdamI was pondering this the other day is because obviously we've done Gremlins.

AdamWe did it years ago and

AdamIn fact it was episode 63.

AdamSo.

LeeOh, God.

AdamOh, excuse me.

LeeWhen we were much younger.

ChrisYeah.

AdamThe Burbs was episode 59.

AdamSo that's the last time we've done any Joe Dante so, you know, sorry, Joe, I love his films so much, I can't believe we haven't done but I think that was the thing, I think because we love them, we splashed out really early on a lot of his stuff.

LeeOh, sorry.

AdamYeah, that's true.

AdamYeah, we did much much like much much like we did with John Carpenter, but not to the fucking ludicrous extent that we'd basically we were basically a John Carpenter podcast.

LeeYeah.

LeeSo it's like every film, oh it's John Carter this week, what a fucking surprise.

AdamBut there we go.

AdamBut no no offense to Mr. Carter because he is a fucking god.

LeeYeah, exactly.

LeeI mean, it's it's it's it's it's been well placed that love that we've poured upon him.

AdamI think also Joe Joe Dante's not just a horror director though.

Chris

ChrisYeah, I just saw he did inner space.

AdamI didn't realize.

AdamYeah, the only other thing I think we could do Piranha or The Howling.

LeeYeah, we need to do the howling.

LeeHowl is fucking good.

LeeWe do need to do the Howling, that is a fantastic and again, half the fucking car in it.

AdamHe.

ChrisChris, have you seen the Howling?

ChrisI haven't, no.

LeeOh.

LeeBless.

AdamWell for a start, Robert Picardo's in this, you know the the head of services, Foster, the guy from from Star Trek.

Chris

AdamThe doctor from no, Voyejer.

AdamAnd

Chris

AdamYeah, yeah, no, he's in the howling and that's weird but but yeah.

ChrisYeah, wait, I he was the the second in command, wasn't he in this.

LeeYeah.

LeeHave you just.

ChrisI totally did not realize that.

LeeHave you.

AdamOh, sorry.

ChrisIs it Yeah, once you said it, I was like, yeah, the doctor, yeah, that's him.

AdamYeah, Robert Picardo.

ChrisYeah.

AdamBut you I mean there's loads.

AdamBecause obviously you get like you get most of well, you get four from the first film back.

LeeYou know.

ChrisYeah, because that's why Dick Miller is the other one.

AdamDick Miller.

LeeYeah, Dick Miller is the other one, yeah.

AdamAgain, weirdly enough, we've I think we've only covered Dick Miller in Joe Dante films.

ChrisYeah.

AdamSo, you know, I think we need to we do need to sort of investigate where we're going wrong there because he was in loads of stuff.

LeeEvery time I see him, I think, I need to add Bucket of Blood to my watch list again, because I've only seen it once and every time I forget and I really do need to go back and rewatch that.

AdamAlso, he's in the original Little Shop of Horrors.

Chris

LeeYes, he is.

LeeYeah.

LeeNow, that's a good film as well.

LeeThat's another one.

AdamThat is a bloody good film.

Lee

AdamBut the also apparently in the I was going to say in the novel, Dr. Carter has a, which is Christopher Lee's character, does have a first name.

LeeOh.

AdamHe's Cushing.

Lee

AdamCushing Cartaker, so yeah, I mean.

AdamOh, dear.

AdamYeah.

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