WTH Hall of Fame
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It’s our 200th episode (well, it’s actually our 246th, but who’s counting?) and to celebrate we’re holding the inaugural Welcome To Horror Hall of Fame Awards (or “Welkies” as all the cool kids are calling them). Lee, Chris and Adam have chosen favourites from 4 categories - best trope, best performance, best film and best cinema experience. No prep needed here, just join us for the ceremony live from Essex’s glittering west end, and see if you agree with our choices.
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UnknownGood evening and welcome to horror.
LeeI'm Lee.
ChrisI'm Chris.
AdamI'm Adam.
LeeAnd by some kind of miracle, we are here for episode 200 of the Welcome to Horror podcast.
LeeDespite public demand, we're still going.
LeeI mean, thanks for listening, but you know.
ChrisProbably not with divine intervention at any point.
LeeYeah.
LeeWe've we've managed to get through a pandemic, all of our internet issues.
LeeLiterally this evening, someone has hacked the Zoom account that we're called on.
LeeEverything is stacked against us.
LeeBut you know what?
LeeWe're going to keep going because we're professionals and we're angry.
AdamYeah.
AdamYeah, there's nothing, there's nothing quite as motivating as spite, is there?
LeeOh.
LeeI've had family members who've survived on it for decades.
Lee
LeeRight, so as promised, we are here for the first, and I'm pretty sure not the last, because I'd quite like to do this more frequently.
AdamWell, we'll have to do it for episode 300.
LeeI'm not going to survive that long, let's be honest.
Lee
LeeSo, yes, so we are doing the Welcome to Horror Hall of Fame is now being opened.
Leeand we this evening we are all putting in our favorite things from the four topics chosen.
Leefor anyone who is still listening,
Leefrom episode 101, we are doing the same topics that we did for our Room 101 episode, where we did our least favorite of these four topics.
Lee
Leeso Adam in a stroke of genius thought it'd be a great idea to reverse that and actually talk about good stuff.
LeeAnd not just have Chris get really angry about Tom Cruise, which is justifiable always.
AdamWell, so I I was thinking if this is the Welcome to Horror Hall of Fame awards,
Adamwhat I would imagine is all the cool kids are calling it the Welkies.
ChrisOoh.
AdamSome thought's gone into this.
AdamYou know, people can put people can put it on their box cover art, you know, winner of two Welkies.
AdamAnd, you know, people will just think is this something to do with men in white coats who sell fish and chips?
Lee
LeeYeah.
LeeAre we going to have to have a theme tune for the beginning of each one like the, like the Oscars do?
AdamWe'll just make Wogan. Yeah.
LeeI was thinking the the Great White North.
LeeYeah, I've been watching a lot of that recently.
AdamYeah.
LeeBut anyway, without further ado and bullshit,
Leewhich, I mean, if you're listening to this, you've listened for 199 episodes, this is not new to you.
Lee
Leethere will be swearing, there might be spoilers, depending on our choices.
Lee
Leebut yeah, so
LeeLet's kick things off and get stuck in with our first category.
Lee
LeeSo we are going to put into the Hall of Fame our favorite movie trope.
Chris
Lee
LeeSo, I think as Chris is the one who has been being welcomed to horror for 200 episodes,
Leebut he's now definitely a cornerstone of knowledge when it comes to horror.
LeeChris, what have you chosen?
ChrisOf course, in the vein of the previous one, there was a big temptation to not not take this quite so seriously again.
ChrisHowever, I thought, all right, no, we're going for best, I am going to give my best, and so I was looking back, I was thinking what what has stood out to me,
Chrisyou know, what seems to be recurring the recurring theme again and again.
ChrisAnd it would seem to be that my favorite trope is a combination of psychological horror and supernatural,
Chrisbut where you don't know what's real, is it just everyone going mad, or is there actually something supernatural going on?
LeeGood choice, we have covered a lot of films where where it goes, it could go either way.
LeeThat's fantastic.
ChrisYeah, and that we had, I've got a list of a few.
Chrisand some of them we didn't cover,
Chrisbut some we have.
ChrisSo hereditary, The Babadook.
ChrisThe Lighthouse.
LeeYeah.
ChrisBlack Swan, which I don't remember we covered, but I watched and we may have talked about.
ChrisDid we actually cover it?
AdamWe haven't covered it. We we haven't covered The Lighthouse either as well.
ChrisOkay, you must have mentioned that.
AdamWe've definitely discussed them, yeah.
ChrisVoted it for me.
ChrisAnd yeah, and Jacob's Ladder,
Chriswhich I would have thought we might have covered by now.
ChrisThat was one of my favorite films when I was younger.
AdamI think we need to add that to the list.
ChrisYeah.
AdamThat that definitely needs.
ChrisThat that could be a like a good step towards Shawshank Redemption, which again, we're not exactly allowed to watch.
AdamOn on the basis of being a Stephen King book.
ChrisExactly, yeah.
LeeYeah.
LeeYeah.
LeeI was going to say, I'm sure we and let's be honest, was it only five episodes in before I said, right, fuck the format, I want a big trouble in Little China.
ChrisYeah.
AdamYeah, but yeah, but Big Trouble in Little China, you know, again, it's the connection there, you got it's it's a John Carpenter film, so.
LeeYeah.
AdamNot that I'm not that I'm suggesting we do fucking Starman or whatever it's called.
ChrisCan draw a line somewhere.
Chris
AdamYeah, exactly.
ChrisAnd and there is one more film I would mention in this list, but I will save it for best film.
LeeOh, excellent.
LeeGood call, I like that.
AdamBut that that lovely ambivalence is
Adama fantastic.
AdamIt's a very good horror trope just on the basis that it's it it feels the most naturalistic, you know, way.
LeeYeah, it does.
LeeYeah, that idea of am I imagining this or is it genuine?
LeeWhich I'm sure in a lot of scenarios of the stuff we watch, your brain would just go, this can't be happening and you go, yeah.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisAnd it lets people play with with, you know, different film styles a bit, you can you can do some interesting things with it, how far do you take it either way?
AdamOh, absolutely.
AdamI I always I always like the ones that still, you know, that I I like the ones that leave you in doubt at the end.
Chris
ChrisYeah.
Lee
AdamYou know, you can it's like say another example, The Omen.
Chris
AdamIs that the story of the Antichrist?
AdamI mean obviously.
ChrisWe did watch that.
AdamQuite clear, but The Omen on its own is is that is this a series of coincidences that lead a poor a man to try and kill his child or has the Antichrist been born?
AdamWho knows?
ChrisAnd on that.
LeeExcellent choice.
LeeAdam, over to you.
AdamWell, I've gone with my best trope and I think this says a lot about me and what I,
Adamyou know, certain levels of confirmation bias.
Adammy trope, I've called it in in honor of Charlie Brooker, I've called it Twatty Old Humanity.
ChrisOoh.
Adam
AdamAnd that is and that's just the fact that the humans are the real monsters.
ChrisOh, yeah.
AdamExamples I've got a for examples I've got of that.
Adam28 Days Later.
AdamAll of George Romero's zombie films.
AdamWayland Yutani in the Alien franchise.
AdamCaptain Vedel in Pan's Labyrinth.
AdamOh, that fucking bastard.
AdamEven now.
LeeIt makes me want some real people.
LeeOh.
LeeOh.
LeeOh, you said it, it made me angry.
LeeIt's such a great character.
LeeOh.
AdamFrankenstein obviously, both the title character and society in general in most Frankenstein's.
Adamother films that we haven't covered like The Mist, Night Breed and and obviously The Monster Club.
Adamwhere man is the greatest monster of all.
LeeYou know, but that that needs to go on the list more than anything, I think.
AdamYeah.
AdamBut it's it's just yeah, I do like that thing where it's sort of, you know, yes, there's supernatural horrors, yes, there's monsters and everything.
AdamBut Christ on a bike, human beings are bloody awful.
AdamYou know.
ChrisAnd and proud of it a lot of the time.
LeeAs we showed in our last film, in fact, we saw that human beings are proud of being total fuckups.
AdamOh, mate.
AdamAnd and the I mean, that's the thing, the the weirdest part about it is is when you when you look at it and you watch a horror film and you think, yeah, the stakes are high on this, you know, people are going to fuck each other over for so they don't get eaten by the zombie hordes or whatever like that.
AdamWhereas actually it's, oh no, they're just going to fuck you over because you're there.
AdamYeah.
AdamYou know, in many in many ways real life, it's like another one, Grease's Grease or gangs in Stephen King books.
AdamYeah.
AdamYou know, again, like like when we watched it, and it was like, oh, thank Christ, the the child killing supernatural entity has turned up, because all the human beings are worse.
LeeYeah.
AdamYou know, non-chemists, abusive parents, Grease with flick knives, it's just, yeah, you're actually like, oh, thank Christ, it's here.
LeeYeah.
AdamSo, yeah, so that is my contribution.
AdamThat is my my hall of Fame.
LeeVery good call.
LeeI have gone for a a trope that is in some of my favorite films.
Leeand it it is a a running thing, and a lot of these films actually we covered, it is the horror party, Halloween party, sorry, gone wrong.
ChrisYeah.
AdamOh, yeah.
LeeOh, yes.
LeeSo that is, Night of the Demons 1, 3, It's My Party and I'll Die If I Want To, Hell Night.
AdamYep.
Lee
LeeBlood Night as well.
LeeLike, there's just loads of them, and it the reason I love it, I think,
Leeis because it gives them the excuse to go all out Halloween, which obviously is my favorite time of the year.
ChrisYeah.
Leeand you get that Halloween feel and then on top of that, if you believe in such things,
Leeit is the night when the veil between the living and the dead is thinnest.
LeeSo it it creates a good excuse for these things to happen.
LeeAnd and it is.
LeeIt's it's like.
LeeHalloween used to be and I, you know, we've said it before on the show, I spent two Halloween nights in a graveyard.
LeeLike, just doing.
LeeKids do stupid shit like that and the idea that it suddenly all goes wrong and you do it just for bravado and before you know it, you're in a terrifying situation with actual supernatural beings, yeah, just it's just one of those.
LeeIt's a great concept and it's done so well so often and uses a lot of fun as well in those films mixed with a lot of full on horror.
ChrisAnd it.
AdamIt also it also has that lovely thing as well where everyone's in costume, so the killer can be in costume as well.
AdamOr they can start stealing other people's costumes, or people can think that a monster is just a really good costume.
AdamYou know, so immediately you've got those sort of lovely playful sort of moments as well where it's you know, someone comes in as a trick or treat or you know, a trick or treater comes in, are they actually really a person in a costume?
AdamAre they the monster, are, you know, and it's yeah.
AdamA lovely lot of messing about and sort of, you know, Michael Myers wearing the ghost sheet in Halloween and things like that.
AdamYou know, where it's just, yeah.
LeeYeah, and Trick R Treat as well, is obviously one of my favorite, so.
AdamYeah.
LeeYeah, and it's just it's it's one of those when I thought of it, I was like, there are so many great titles that we've discussed that we all love that that that do sort of cling to that as the sort of base story.
LeeYeah, and because I love Halloween, it just works for me and they're all the films that I have to reel out every year and have to spend the whole of October watching, so.
AdamYeah.
LeeExcellent, right.
AdamExcellent choice.
LeeThank you, thank you.
AdamSo, the Welkies for best trope include the ambivalence of psychological versus supernatural, old humanity, and the Halloween party gone wrong.
ChrisHey.
LeeHey.
LeeYou like that?
LeeI need I need to stop watching that.
AdamClearly.
LeeFor anyone who's unaware, it was a comedy sketch that Rick Moranis used to do on, SNL and then he did it on loads of other stuff, where it was basically two drunk Canadians on a cable access show and they didn't have a theme tune so one of them would literally just do that with his mouth as the thing and it was great.
LeeIf you've never seen and they made a film with, Maxwell von Side out called Strange Brew,
Leewhich could technically be squeezed into horror, it has got supernatural elements.
LeeAnd it's amazing.
AdamI must have seen it, I'll take it.
LeeAnd it's all about ice hockey and beer, so I mean, I'd be up for it literally every day of the week.
ChrisSounds good.
AdamAnd the film.
LeeSo without further ado,
Leewe are going to be going onto our favorite films.
Chris
LeeSo Chris, what are you going to be putting into the Welcome to Horror Hall of Fame?
ChrisWell, so based on what I've said so far and based on what I've said in the past, you may not be too shocked that I'm going to say The Witch by Robert Eggers.
LeeVery good one.
AdamYeah.
LeeYes.
ChrisAnd of course, it does fit and that was the last one of my list of the best trope.
LeeYes.
ChrisI guess it does have both psychological horror and supernatural that even by the end you're not sure, not 100% sure it could have been one way, it could be the other, both are very good explanations.
AdamAlthough I hope it is supernatural, cuz then you have to believe.
ChrisYes, yeah, exactly.
ChrisBut.
ChrisSome depending on my mood, I don't want it to be, so, you know, it's it's all there for the taking.
Chris
Chrisbut yeah, like especially what I love about it, it's got themes of isolation, religion, exploring religious fanaticism, the family strict, Puritanical beliefs.
Chrisamplifying their fear and guilt, drives them to suspect one another.
ChrisAs they become more isolated from the community and from each other.
Christhe supernatural versus psychological, The Witch cleverly leaves it ambiguous.
ChrisWhether the events are genuinely supernatural or the result of psychological stress and madness brought on by their dire situation and it it's funny because
Chrisdysfunction, one bad thing happens, that means people react in a certain way, that means more bad things happen, which mean more bad things happen.
ChrisIt's like, who's going to break that if you're all kind of falling down this.
Chrispit of despair, how do you get out of it?
Chris
ChrisAnd then,
ChrisI think Adam, you said, there's also potentially the, what was it, the weep or corn that they had.
AdamOh, yeah, there's the the thing about which apparently is something that's been, to a greater or lesser extent debunked, but there is the thing about,
ChrisYeah.
Adamergot poisoning.
ChrisYeah, yeah.
AdamYeah.
AdamWhich certainly does cause hallucinations and things like that, so, you know, I think there's.
AdamI'm still saying that's still in for a contender if you want to, especially on a small scale like that.
AdamI mean it may not excuse why a community would go that way, but certainly a a small a small.
ChrisAlthough you could say if a few people start to, that leads people.
ChrisYou know.
LeeYeah.
ChrisMadness.
AdamOh,
Adamabsolutely.
ChrisYeah.
Chris
ChrisAnd and the fact.
Chris
Christhe other thing I really loved about it was, I think I said at the time, like it almost has a documentary like feel.
ChrisLike just so you think I'm actually learning something.
ChrisAbout how this was back then.
ChrisAnd it's pretty awful.
AdamWell, much like the much like The Northman, Robert Eggers really.
ChrisYes.
ChrisYeah.
AdamGoes to town with that, wanting to be as authentic to the period as possible.
ChrisYeah, as much as you can within a.
Chrisa fictional film that's meant to entertain as well.
AdamExactly, yeah.
ChrisSo yeah, I think he he blends that perfectly.
Chrisalong with that the cinematography by Jaren Blash, again, like says it uses natural light and shadow.
ChrisAnd it does create a hauntingly beautiful and eerie visual look.
Chrisand the sound design and music by Mark Koven.
AdamOh, Mark Koven's score is.
ChrisYeah, very unsettling atmosphere.
ChrisSo, yeah, that's.
ChrisThat pretty much ticks all the boxes for me.
ChrisAnd again.
AdamSuch a great cast.
LeeI was going to say and that's where.
ChrisAbsolutely.
LeeWe first discovered Anya Taylor-Joy.
ChrisIt was.
LeeWho I think we all said at the time, we really hope goes on to bigger things because her performance was amazing.
LeeAnd and look what she's done now, like she's in literally everything.
ChrisYeah, yeah.
AdamWell, I'm hoping I'm hoping to get to see Furiosa.
AdamThat's probably the most recent thing.
LeeI can't wait to see that.
AdamI really want to see that.
ChrisThat that might be the first, the first Mad Max I ever watch.
AdamOh, really?
AdamYou've not seen Mad Max.
ChrisNo, I've seen like, seen clips of them, you know, and I've seen it.
Chriszed and referenced.
AdamI'd watch Fury Road.
AdamFury Road.
LeeAbsolutely amazing.
ChrisSo that that was fairly recent as well.
LeeYeah.
LeeSo it's the the one.
LeeSo it's the new sort of reboot.
LeeYeah, Furiosa is the the prequel.
ChrisPrequel, right, yeah, okay.
LeeOh, it's excellent.
LeeIt's it's so much action and it's fantastic like it's just non-stop and it looks beautiful and it's oh, yeah, it's massive.
ChrisI get the impression it's over the top.
AdamYeah.
ChrisIt's.
AdamYes.
AdamYeah.
ChrisYeah, but but that works.
ChrisThat's what it's meant to be.
AdamBecause the the weirdest thing is that the very first one is the is an example of what I can only describe as a pre-apocalyptic movie.
AdamYeah.
AdamBecause the very first one is basically just as everything's going to shit.
Chris
AdamAnd then Mad Max 2, The Road Warrior, is basically, right, everything's gone to shit.
AdamAnd we now all live in a desert and everyone's fighting each other for petrol and dressed up like the fucking Legion of Doom.
AdamBut.
AdamBut the first one sort of still kind of tries to be in in a base of.
ChrisSome normal.
AdamIn reality.
ChrisYeah.
AdamBut it's it's it's a world you can recognize, just a world that's literally on the brink of absolute fucking collapse.
ChrisOne you still would not want to be in.
AdamOh, absolutely.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisOkay.
ChrisOh.
AdamRight.
AdamProbably the most out of all of them.
AdamIs again, back to it, it's a bit of a it's a bit of a fucking relief when it's when it's.
ChrisYeah, once you're in it, it's like, that's this is what it is now.
ChrisWe're going to just enjoy it.
AdamYeah, we can crack on now.
LeeThere is a fantastic Mad Max game as well, if you get a chance, Chris, on the PC, you can get it on Steam.
LeeIt's absolutely brilliant.
LeeI loved it.
ChrisOh, all right, perhaps I'll check that out.
LeeYeah.
LeeYeah.
LeeFantastic.
LeeAdam, what is the film that you're going to be putting into the Welcome to Horror Hall of Fame?
AdamWell, I had I had a few ideas, sort of bubbling under was a the fictional basically the fictional idea of Jodorowsky's Dune was what I was going to possibly put in.
LeeOh.
AdamYeah.
ChrisOh.
AdamYeah.
AdamYeah.
Adambut what I've actually gone with is a film that I feel in many ways is like a embodiment of a lot of the stuff, certainly the stuff that I like, but a lot of the stuff that we always rate on the show.
AdamAnd most importantly, it's the film that welcome watching for Welcome to Horror.
Adamthat Claire has been introduced to that is her favorite.
AdamSo.
AdamI am going with Theater of Blood.
Chris
LeeOh, nice.
AdamBecause you've got.
AdamObviously, you know, it's.
AdamLike I said, I like a bit of grimy 70s Britishness.
Adamyou've got a.
AdamAbsolute fucking horror icon there, because you've got Vincent Price in the title role.
AdamIt's both it's both a horror and a comedy.
AdamBut the horror is in places, the horror's absolutely fucking ghastly and grim.
AdamBecause you've obviously got all the stuff and the holdovers from Shakespeare, which are obviously always gory and violent and vicious and things like that.
AdamYou've got a cast of, apart from Vincent Price, the cast is entirely British character actors.
AdamYou've got, you've even got Mad and Smith from, like, so you've got a hammer connection in there.
AdamAnd you've got like Michael Horden and Robert Morley and,
AdamArthur Low, Diana Rig, obviously, also pretending to be Jeff Linn from The Electric Light Orchestra.
AdamAnd, but, you know, and and in a way, it's almost like,
Adambecause obviously another thing that we're always we always like on the show is we like an Anthology film.
AdamIt's not an Anthology, but it has that thing of it's a series of set pieces that link, you know, so it could almost fit into that category, even though it's a continuing story with the same characters.
AdamBut it's got it just ticks so many of those boxes and is just such an astoundingly fucking good piece of work.
AdamIt's one of those things that you you kind of almost go, I can't believe this exists.
AdamYou know, it's so fucking good.
AdamAnd also it's one of those ones where again, it's one of those ones where you think much like how Jodorowsky's Dune.
AdamWould have been if it had actually become to fruition.
AdamLet's face it, best wheel in the world, it had been a fucking disaster.
AdamYeah.
AdamYou know.
AdamThe imagined version of it is brilliant, but it probably would have been a sort of Curio.
AdamOr sort of like people saying, you know, when David Lynch did Dune, they were like, oh, did you see this one back from the 60s?
AdamIt's fucking mad as a box of frogs and sound god in it for some reason and.
AdamBut whereas Theater of Blood, you know, I think it's sort of, you know, it's really well put together, it's funny, it's dark, it's, you know, it's got it's got Shakespeare in there, obviously.
AdamAnd, you know, it's just and also, if you get the arrow Blu-ray,
Adamyou get the League of Gentlemen doing a commentary, so it's almost like every aspect of shit that we go on about on this show.
Adam
AdamThat is.
AdamThat.
AdamIncidentally, if you've.
AdamNot that you ever would, but if you were to bore a Theater of Blood, watch it with the league commentary and it becomes alive once again.
AdamIf you, you know, even if that was possible, but I don't think it is, I think that it's just, yeah.
LeeOh, what a great film that is.
Lee
LeeYeah, two great choices so far.
Leeagain, a bit like James McAvoy, as soon as we said you need, you know, we're going to do this, this is what it's going to be, and I wrote down in my notepad, I was like, right, I'm going to sit down, I'm going to work all these answers out, and I wrote down film, and then immediately just wrote Devil Rides Out, because.
AdamYeah.
LeeYeah.
LeeIt can't be anything else.
LeeIt it, you know, like you were saying, Adam, it it hits so many of our favorite.
Leethings.
LeeLike it's Hammer.
LeeIt's that 60s psychedelic color scheme.
LeeMusic is batshit.
LeeIt's Christopher Lee and Charles Grey.
LeeIt's got my best, my favorite representation of the devil.
AdamCan I ask, is your favorite representation of the devil?
AdamThe Goat of Mendez sitting on the rock or the man in red pants?
LeeIt's the Goat of Mendez sitting on the rock, but I do love the man in the red pants as well.
LeeBecause he is truly terrifying.
Leeyeah.
LeeSo originally based on the book by Dennis Wheatley.
LeeBut then adapted by Richard Matheson.
LeeLike it's it's just it's it's got everything and it's it's such a comfort watch for me.
LeeIt's that it it again, it's one of those, it doesn't matter what mood I'm in, it'll always hit the spot.
LeeIt's a great like Sunday night movie, it's just phenomenal, I absolutely love it.
LeeI love watching it with other people, I love watching it on my own in bed.
LeeIt just it always works for me because it's got so much atmosphere and it's got so many great performances.
LeeAnd and just everything comes together perfectly.
LeeIt's got loads of action.
LeeAnd it's just brilliant.
LeeAnd it is bat shit.
LeeAnd it it did come close.
Leeto being my favorite of our last, subject as well, which is our favorite cinema experience, at least in my favorite film.
LeeThey aired it, oh, must have been three or four years ago now, they aired it, at the cinema.
LeeWhat's the name of the cinema.
LeeIn East London that we went to.
LeeOh, can't remember now.
Leebut they showed it on my birthday.
Leewith Robin Ince doing the intro.
AdamYes.
Leeso obviously we went to that and got pissed up and had a fantastic time watching it.
LeeAnd then I want to well, Jennifer technically.
Leewon a limited edition print of the the artwork big poster that now hangs in my hallway prior to place, so as soon as you come in the front door, it's right there, you can see it.
Lee
LeeYeah, it's it's couldn't be much more perfect.
LeeYeah, exactly, it's such and it is such a good film in so many ways.
LeeI just returned to it over and over again, it really is my comfort food of films really.
AdamAnd it's good and it's it's.
AdamIt's great to see.
AdamChristopher Lee is the hero.
LeeYes.
LeeExactly, not even though he is still a stern, funny bastard.
AdamYeah.
LeeI mean he's still being a prick, but he's doing it for all the right reasons.
LeeWhich again is.
AdamYeah.
LeeIt works.
LeeYeah.
AdamI'd rather you were dead than mixed up with black magic.
LeeYeah.
LeeGod.
LeeOh, and the artwork goes for it as well.
LeeHe's just phenomenal.
AdamOh, yeah, I mean, that that opening, the like the opening titles, I mean Hammer sort of like titles pretty good.
AdamBut yeah, that is an amazing.
LeeReally.
AdamThat like you say that sort of psychodelic sort of colors and everything.
AdamBecause Hammer's usually very vivid, but at that point it had gone very.
Adamyeah, very trippy.
LeeYeah, Terence Fisher as well.
LeeMentioning all the the great points that it hits.
LeeTerence Fisher directing as well.
LeeAwesome.
AdamYes.
LeeYeah.
ChrisAnd I like how patriotic you both are.
ChrisChoosing English.
ChrisBritish films.
LeeYeah.
LeeYeah.
LeeOh, there was just something this is the thing, I've said before about the 60s and 70s in Britain.
LeeI would have hated to have been alive in that time because it's so, oh, it's everything I hate.
LeeBut we were just smashing it out the park with cinema at the time.
LeeIt really was it would be the only reason to live at that time would be to see these films actually.
ChrisThat was the out.
AdamOh.
AdamYeah.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd we've got them.
AdamWe still got them, so you don't need to travel back in time.
AdamSo.
LeeThanks.
AdamSo, yeah, stop stop building that time machine now, Lee, so.
LeeOh, good.
LeeI can turn off and go to bed.
AdamYeah.
AdamYeah.
LeeRight.
AdamSo.
AdamThe Welkies for best film, The Witch, Theater of Blood, and The Devil Rides Out.
ChrisHey.
LeeHey.
AdamThere we go.
LeeExcellent.
AdamWell, fantastic.
AdamCan I just say, I'm proud of both of you.
LeeI'm.
ChrisI'm proud of you too.
AdamBecause.
AdamBecause all all of these films are without a shadow of a fucking doubt Hall of Famers.
AdamYou know.
ChrisYeah.
AdamI could have picked either of those as well as there.
LeeOh, yeah, yeah.
LeeYeah.
LeeYeah.
LeeWe're so in sync, we've been doing this too long.
Leeso for our final category of the evening,
Leeby Chris's behest, we are going to be covering.
LeeOur favorite cinema experience.
LeeSo Chris, would you like to lead us off?
ChrisHey, well, following it on in the vein of my favorite.
Chrispsychological, is it real, is it supernatural, what's going on here?
ChrisI'm not a huge cinema goer.
ChrisSo part of mine could be a little bit dramatized.
ChrisSee see see if you can tell what's real and what's not.
ChrisSo my my favorite cinema experience is when I attended the premiere of The Witch with a Mr. Tom Cruise.
ChrisWhere he is so excited by the greatness of the film that he jumps up and down the chairs and frightens everybody.
ChrisIt was a night to remember, not only because the chilling atmosphere of the film,
Chrisbut because I had the inexplicable fortune of attending it with a Mr. Tom Cruise.
ChrisYes,
Chrisyou heard that right.
ChrisThe Tom Cruise.
ChrisAs if his presence in the world of horror was not already an eyebrow raiser, imagine him as my movie-going buddy for the night.
ChrisIt all began with an invitation that mysteriously arrived at my doorstep, marked with an ornate TC.
ChrisI assumed it was some sort of secret society thing, but no, it was from Tom Cruise himself.
LeeOh, my.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisHe had apparently heard of my hilarious ribbing at his expense during our 100th episode and decided to turn the tables.
ChrisI invited me to what he called a transcendental cinematic experience.
ChrisHow could I refuse?
ChrisWe met at the theater and let me tell you, Tom Cruise does not do anything by halves.
ChrisHe arrived in a black helicopter that landed right in the middle of the red carpet, his million-dollar smile reflecting the flash bulbs of countless cameras.
ChrisHe greeted me with that firm, intense handshake of his and said, are you ready to be witch-slapped by sheer terror?
ChrisHow could I say no to that?
LeeYeah.
ChrisInside the.
ChrisInside the theater, as the lights dimmed, Tom leaned over and whispered, I've been preparing for this all of my life.
ChrisI thought he was joking until he started doing some kind of deep breathing exercises, presumably to ready himself for the horrors to come.
ChrisAs the eerie soundtrack of The Witch filled the room, Tom's intensity only grew.
ChrisEvery time a goat appeared on screen, he would mutter something about bovine transcendent under his breath.
ChrisThe real highlight, however, was his reaction to Black Phillip when the goat finally spoke.
ChrisTom jumped out of his seat and shouted, I knew it, I knew goats were sent goats were sentient beings.
ChrisHe then proceeded to take furious notes, which I later learned were for a potential sequel to Top Gun involving fighter pilots versus satanic livestock.
ChrisI can't make this stuff up.
ChrisDuring the film's climax, Tom was gripping the armrest so hard that I'm pretty sure he left permanent dents.
ChrisHis post-film analysis was equally intense.
ChrisHe insisted on a debrief session right there in the theater, analyzing the symbolic representation of Puritanical oppression and comparing it to Hollywood's treatment of action stars.
ChrisHe had a particularly poignant take on the ending,
Chrisdescribing it as a metaphor for an actor's eternal struggle against typecasting.
ChrisAfter the movie, we attended the after party where Tom insisted on performing his own rendition of Ye Old Timey Witch Trials.
ChrisThe musical.
ChrisIt was a performance so unique that people are still talking about it or trying to forget it.
ChrisAll in all, attending The Witch Prim with Tom Cruise was an experience as surreal and unexpected as the film itself.
ChrisWhile I might still poke fun at Tom in the future episodes, I'll always cherish that bizarre goat-filled night.
LeeAmazing.
ChrisThat might have been a dream.
AdamHow the fuck do we follow that?
LeeThat is.
AdamI know what a prick.
ChrisOh.
AdamYeah.
AdamYeah.
AdamYeah.
ChrisYeah.
AdamI'm glad I'm glad that you and Tom have found some common ground as well.
ChrisYeah, I thought.
ChrisIt was time.
ChrisI can't hate on him forever.
AdamDon't let him Simon Pegg you. Yeah, suddenly you've lost a load of weight and you're not in very good films anymore.
LeeYeah.
AdamBut thank you so much, everybody.
AdamIt made so many friends over the last seven years of doing this through this show.
Adam
Adamyeah, and we're amazed by the response really that anybody listens to this shit.
Adamso thank you so much and, yeah, we really appreciate what we really love is the amount of people who have have said that it actually has re-introduced them to horror.
AdamPeople who, you know, we've said it before, saw something when they were too young and it scared the piss out of them and they haven't listened or watched horror since.
AdamAnd this is kind of encouraged a few people to get back into it.
AdamAnd rediscover it and realize that it's a lot more nuanced and intelligent than a lot of people think.
Adamyeah, and and that's what it's all about.
AdamReally for us.
AdamSo.
LeeThanks for listening.
AdamFantastic.
LeeWe love you all.
AdamIs it?
LeeIs it?
AdamIs it.
LeeIs it number two?
AdamOh, God damn it, I could manage that.
Lee
LeeBut thanks ever so much for listening, everybody.
LeeWe'll be back in a fortnight's time.
Leewe're going to be covering something new.
LeeAdam, what are we covering on our next episode?
AdamOh, it's Tales from the Great War by friend of the show, Andrew Elias, and yeah, looking forward to that.
AdamHe's a top man and yeah, this very intrigued.
AdamBecause I haven't seen it yet.
AdamSo I'm really looking forward to this.
LeeYeah, so go and find it.
LeeIt is available on Amazon.
LeeSo go and watch it on there.
Leeand we'll see you back here in a fortnight's time.
LeeThanks very much for listening to 200 episodes.
LeeGood night.
ChrisGood night.
AdamGood night.
