Horrhiffic The Romford Horror Film Fest 2024

0:23 Lee Good evening and welcome to Horror. I'm Lee.

0:26 Chris I'm Chris.

0:27 Adam I'm Adam.

0:28 Lee And we are here this evening to cover the Romford Film Festival Horrific, which we made our first outing to this year.

0:39 Lee We were actually organized enough to put it in the fucking diary last year when we missed it, so we finally got there. There will be spoilers but there will be swearing, just to warn you. So, you know.

0:52 Chris Was anyone else slightly like, why did we not come here before?

0:56 Lee I wanted to.

0:57 Chris What was wrong with us?

0:58 Lee I wanted to every year, but it's one of those things because I've not been before, I haven't got it in my mind over that happens that end of the year coming up, we need to plan. Yeah.

1:49 Lee Yeah, so every year it comes up on Instagram, like people who are follow independent filmmakers and people post that they were there, and every year I go, oh, bollocks, we've missed it again. So, yeah, this year, last year, when I missed it, I put it straight in the diary for this year, which is how we managed to be organized enough to get tickets.

2:08 Chris Well, I could say, well done.

2:10 Adam In fact, you were so organized, Lee, you messaged me a month early.

2:15 Chris Yes, that would have been good.

2:17 Chris It wouldn't have been quite so enjoyable going to.

2:22 Lee so for anyone who's unaware, Romford in London, I think they're now saying Romford is part of London, it's still a London borough of Horing.

2:32 Lee Yes.

2:34 Lee there is an independent cinema there, it used to be an Odeon back in the day.

2:40 Lee Like, I saw some classic, like, I saw Terminator 2 there for the first time.

2:46 Lee I went on one of my first dates there, like, it was a big part of my childhood.

2:50 Chris Oh, that's that's got some big memories.

2:53 Lee Oh, it has.

2:53 Lee yeah, and basically it stood empty for a lot at least a decade, and then an independent bought it and made it a kind of, they were selling it cheap, it was like a five or a ticket, any screen, any time.

3:12 Chris Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

3:16 Lee yeah, and now because they've got this space and they've got so many screens, they've put all the money they've made back into, so like them seats yesterday were so comfortable, it's crazy.

3:30 Lee Yeah.

3:32 Lee And they've really made a thing of it, and they do like this like cult screenings and loads of stuff. So, it it's it's a fantastic resource right on our doorstep.

3:45 Chris So, is it? I've got to say, like, I didn't really rush it to it when it's been mentioned before because it's Romford, so I absolutely did not have the correct expectation for just how fantastic it was.

3:56 Lee I was blown away, it was great.

3:58 Lee And again, it's got that lovely big foyer area, that's always, like, it's always just been a waste of space effectively.

4:11 Lee They've got, obviously they've got the concession stand there, but it's like it's a big foyer that had nothing in it.

4:22 Lee but for this, what I mean when it was an Odeon, I don't mean since it was premiere.

4:27 Lee Because now they've got a bar area, yeah, and then like stuff like this, they had all their concession stand set all their you know, people selling stuff and celebrity signing shit.

4:37 Lee oh, and it was just it was so well laid out and so well planned, everything was I was blown away.

4:46 Lee I can't wait for next year.

4:47 Adam Talking of celebrity signing shit.

4:50 Lee Yes.

4:51 Lee I managed I accidentally caught the eye of a guy behind a stall who I didn't recognize, to be fair.

4:58 Lee yeah, and he just kind of.

5:00 Chris He looks he looks a bit different. A lot more friendly, I would say.

5:04 Lee Yes, seven foot one, he was, but once he stands up, yeah.

5:08 Lee but yeah, so Ross Sambridge was there, who was, the guy who played the character of, Supreme Leader Snoke.

5:18 Lee Yes.

5:19 Lee and he was also one of the Wookies in Solo.

5:23 Lee yeah, and I just kind of caught his eye and he was like, hey, are you a Star Wars fan?

5:29 Lee I was like, who isn't a Star Wars fan?

5:31 Lee And then it just got chatting to him for 15.

5:33 Lee What an amazing guy.

5:34 Lee He was so amiable and so lovely.

5:37 Lee And yeah, and I got a lovely signed photograph and yeah, got a photograph taken.

5:41 Lee Yeah, it was just, oh, it was a lovely day, wasn't it?

5:45 Chris It really was, yeah.

5:48 Adam I also I also spoke to, Lauren Barnett was down there.

5:54 Lee Yes.

5:54 Adam who I know from, I listen to a thing called the London Horror Movie Club.

6:00 Adam which is a podcast and it's her, sometimes it's just her and other times it's her and her brother.

6:09 Adam yeah.

6:12 Adam They, basically they're American, but they talk about.

6:17 Adam Specifically horror film set in London.

6:20 Adam And you don't quite realize, even though that seems like there's going to be a lot, you don't realize there is a lot.

6:30 Chris Yeah.

6:31 Adam Of London, literal London based horror films, not British horror films or you know, like specifically London.

6:39 Adam And it's yeah, it's really good because you get the sort of perspective of people who didn't grow up in England.

6:46 Adam So, you know.

6:48 Adam It's they have a very different, take on it.

6:53 Adam And, no, it's a good podcast, but yeah, she was really really nice because I I said to her like, I listened to the podcast.

7:02 Adam And yeah, she was she was really cool.

7:03 Adam But she was there with a guy called Tony Morden, who she's also an actress.

7:12 Adam And she's in something called The Witches of the Sands and the director of that was down there sort of and he's like doing.

7:20 Chris That does look great.

7:21 Adam Pre-publicity and post-production on that as well.

7:26 Adam And yeah, he was really cool.

7:28 Adam But they had like a glossy book of, set photographs and sort of like the making of the film and everything else like that.

7:38 Adam It looks mental.

7:40 Chris Yeah.

7:41 Adam And yeah, I can never think more that's a very high credit that I tend to give things.

7:47 Adam So I really forward to that actually coming out so we get to see it maybe next year, I don't know.

7:52 Lee Oh, fingers crossed, that'd be awesome.

7:53 Lee Yeah, I I

7:55 Lee It isn't a podcast I'd come across before, but Adam came here before we left to go to the film festival and was telling me about it.

8:02 Lee And I was like, I'm surprised I've not heard of this podcast, because it sounds great.

8:06 Lee yeah, and then meeting Lauren, she was lovely.

8:09 Lee So, yeah.

8:10 Lee I that is definitely, I had to scroll through today and had look at all the, all the episodes.

8:15 Lee Yeah, and you're right, there's so much stuff I was like, oh shit, yeah, there's loads of amazing films that I'm a massive fan of, so I cannot wait to binge through that podcast now, that's my task for the week.

8:25 Chris I'm assuming we haven't covered them all.

8:29 Adam We've covered a number of them.

8:31 Lee Have we?

8:32 Adam Yeah, there are, there's, I like, I believe, what's there? Death line's in there.

8:40 Chris I was going to say that that was the one I was absolutely thinking of.

8:43 Lee American Werewolf.

8:44 Chris Well, yeah, yeah.

8:48 Adam oh, and also the thing that, because Lee mentioned last episode about Horrors of the Black Museum.

8:52 Adam Him and Jennifer have been watching that's another one that's a London set horror film that they talk about.

9:04 Lee Yeah, I'll definitely be getting stuck into that tomorrow, first thing tomorrow morning, in the office I will be getting into that.

9:11 Lee And hopefully binging through a load of those episodes and getting caught up.

9:16 Lee you mentioned, Adam, there's a book that you were hoping to get but you'd sold out.

9:20 Lee Which is excellent that she'd sold out.

9:22 Adam Yes.

9:22 Lee of Walks of London.

9:24 Lee Which I think.

9:28 Adam Yes, it's called Death Lines.

9:31 Adam And it was a book that I I'd sort of, so I listened to the podcast and I, was aware of the book.

9:40 Adam And then I said to Lee, oh, she's down there promoting and the book will be for sale, so I was going to get it then.

9:48 Adam and, so I've ordered it now anyway because it had been on my to-buy list for some time anyway.

9:58 Adam And,

9:59 Lee But didn't need much pushing, to be fair. When she said I haven't got a copy, I then went straight to the bar and by the time I came back from the bar, he's like, yeah, I've ordered it. He just pulled it up on his phone there and then and was like, yeah, I'm not waiting any longer. I told myself I was going to have this now and I wanted.

16:44 Chris That's the way to do it.

16:46 Adam And, but yeah, I think it it's, like I say, it's, yeah, it's called Death Lines, Walking London's Horror History, and, you know, it's basically like taking you through the roots of stuff that's.

17:08 Adam Because that's the interesting thing is there's a lot of not it's not just London films, but there's the combination of you get locations that become iconic because of the film.

17:19 Adam And then there's use of iconic locations in a film.

17:28 Lee Yeah.

17:29 Adam And yeah, it's a a weird sort of thing that you've got like, you know, because obviously it's not.

17:35 Adam It's not Hobs End in there isn't a Hobs End in, Quatermass in real life.

17:43 Adam But, you know, there there is a Russell Chewb, so you get all these.

17:48 Adam Yeah, weird sort of stuff that's legendary but not actually it's an iconic film landmark but not an iconic landmark.

17:57 Lee Yeah.

18:00 Lee Yeah, so that's so anyone like us who's kept saying.

18:05 Lee I need to pull my finger out, get it in your diary this year and go.

18:08 Lee Because it's excellent.

18:10 Lee yeah, we had a really good day.

18:12 Lee I I still say because I'm a fidgety fucker, I I still think two films is pretty much my limit in a day.

18:19 Lee Just because I just start getting too.

18:22 Lee I mean, poor Chris and Adam had to put up with me fidgeting the whole way through the film.

18:24 Lee I cannot sit still for more than three minutes at a time.

18:29 Lee and then I get conscious that I'm fidgeting and I must be annoying other people.

18:33 Chris Which probably makes you fidget a bit more.

18:35 Lee Exactly, makes you even more uncomfortable.

18:37 Lee but to be but those seats, as I say, in that cinema were they were all lovely and they reclined back, but then they don't from so you don't then le person behind you.

18:48 Chris And and they got an extra little tilt mechanism in the seat part, so yeah, it's good.

18:52 Adam Can I just say, the first time that I lent back and that happened?

18:56 Adam I thought I'd broken the seat, didn't want to make a fuss and then tried to sit suspended.

19:03 Chris Like, so, I don't look like I've just busted the seat.

19:08 Lee Yeah.

19:09 Lee It was excellent.

19:10 Lee And they had.

19:11 Chris That was probably good for your posture.

19:14 Lee And they had a really good, really good and reasonably priced bar.

19:18 Lee They had local beers.

19:19 Chris Yeah, it was.

19:19 Chris Yeah.

19:20 Lee Special cocktails for the day.

19:23 Lee yeah.

19:24 Lee It was great, it had everything.

19:26 Lee So, yeah.

19:27 Lee Definitely go.

19:28 Lee shall we crack into the stuff that we watched yesterday then?

19:33 Adam Yes.

19:34 Lee Excellent. Right, if we go through in the order in which we saw them.

19:38 Lee so the first thing we saw was we saw a short called Collection Only.

19:43 Lee which is written by Alan Reese Morgan.

19:46 Lee

19:47 Adam who directed it as well, yeah.

19:49 Lee Yeah, I I pissed myself the whole way through.

19:50 Chris It was it was that was great, it hit the mark, really.

19:56 Adam Just just an unusual encounter when someone goes to pick up a chair on Gumtree.

20:04 Lee Yeah.

20:05 Adam And, yeah.

20:08 Adam A very dark little hilarious tale was told.

20:12 Lee It was great, it just it did it was what, 10 minutes long, maybe.

20:17 Lee And it just had everything, it had over the top gore, it had some really chilling moments, it was absolutely hilarious.

20:23 Chris A sweet little evil elderly lady who who made who made some lovely looking tea.

20:31 Lee Yeah.

20:32 Lee Oh.

20:34 Lee Oh, yeah.

20:35 Lee And again, that just set me up as well because that was the thing, as soon as we saw that, I was like, right, I know what we're in for, we're in for some quality stuff today.

20:43 Lee yeah.

20:44 Lee And I just had a great time in there.

20:46 Lee And again, I'd forgotten that there were shorts, so when it started playing, I thought it was the film and then I very quickly realized that it wasn't and it was the the short.

20:55 Adam Yeah, I wasn't sure at first for a second.

20:59 Lee But yeah, what a lovely little surprise that was, yeah, that really really raised my spirits.

21:03 Chris I I do always think, you know, we'll talk about the other short as well, but it's like it's an interesting skill being able to create something that does draw you in and does, you know, give you enough substance.

21:16 Chris That it's like, it's it's got to be an interesting, you know, thing to try and make a short and get enough in there, and yeah, that certainly managed that.

21:26 Lee Yeah, it was.

21:27 Lee It was just very self-contained, like it didn't leave any loose ends.

21:32 Lee Yeah, and it just it it made me smile and made me cringe, and I think at one point I did literally go, oh, fuck.

21:39 Lee Because it was just disgusting.

21:42 Chris Yeah.

21:43 Lee I loved it, it was great.

21:45 Lee so that was the short before, The Pocket Film of Superstitions.

21:52 Adam Yes.

21:53 Lee Yes.

21:54 Lee so who would like to kick off on this one?

21:58 Adam What.

21:58 Adam If if I may.

22:01 Adam Basically, so to to describe it, it's a, basically like a a almost like an old-fashioned documentary real about various superstitions.

22:13 Lee It felt and looked like Haxan.

22:16 Adam Exactly, it's like but it's yeah, it looks like thirties silent cinema like German Expressionism of yeah, you know, et cetera.

22:27 Adam It.

22:29 Adam And, yeah, with a lovely narration.

22:34 Chris Yeah.

22:35 Adam just humorously listing, superstitions, where they come from.

22:42 Adam And.

22:43 Adam you know, the weird sort of ways you can dispel them or things that mean curses and, you know.

22:51 Adam And, yeah, I thought it was really good.

22:53 Adam What it reminded me of, and this is a very obscure reference, so I apologize, but you, this might find one person, I don't know.

23:00 Adam But it had that thing of there's a comic in in the 2000 AD, there's a comic strip called Phenomenax.

23:10 Adam And it's basically like they tell you things like it'll be, you know, the life of Alistair Crowley in five issues, like in five parts or whatever like that.

23:21 Adam But they're drawn like really great little humorous cartoon sort of figures.

23:29 Adam And, you know, sort of filled with jokes and things like that.

23:32 Adam But it is like, it's genuinely what they're telling you.

23:35 Adam What they're telling you the story, but in a humorous way and, you know, really just.

23:40 Adam Having fun with it.

23:42 Chris Yeah.

23:43 Adam And that's kind of what that was, I think.

23:46 Adam It's, yeah.

23:48 Adam I was I think it was one of those things where you're like, I don't know if this is going to sustain.

23:54 Chris Well, that's it.

23:55 Chris You realize what's happening.

23:57 Chris Yeah.

23:58 Adam But then.

23:59 Chris They clearly thought of that and it progressed, it did build up and and it did get extra depth.

24:03 Chris And and and what, there was certainly a few slightly shocking moments, which like, okay, you've changed the the feel of this enough.

24:08 Chris That you you've suddenly taken me out of of what I was getting used to.

24:13 Chris In a way that balanced well, I would say, it wasn't you know, it wasn't.

24:17 Adam The playfulness drops at certain points.

24:20 Chris And then it.

24:21 Chris Yeah.

24:22 Chris Yeah, oh, okay.

24:23 Chris But then drawn back in again to that wonderful narration of, yeah, such a great blend of humor.

24:30 Chris And and eloquence and yeah, like.

24:33 Chris Just great.

24:34 Chris I almost there were points where I was thinking, oh, I could almost show this to my children.

24:39 Chris And then there was points I was like, no, no, definitely not, no.

24:42 Chris I'll skip that bit.

24:43 Chris But, you know.

24:45 Chris It it it was, it was such a charming, you know, walk through all of the the sort of most well-known superstitions and a few less known ones.

24:52 Lee It was.

24:53 Lee It was great and the cast as well.

24:55 Lee Like, it's all people who we have seen in other indie stuff, so, you know, Danny Thompson was in it.

25:02 Lee Sai Hentee was in it,

25:06 Lee oh, Pablo was in it from The Snarling.

25:13 Adam Yeah, the director, oh God, what is it?

25:15 Lee Yeah.

25:16 Lee Rob.

25:16 Lee Rybold.

25:18 Adam Andrew Elias was actually there, who was in, Casting Kill, you know, the.

25:28 Lee Yeah.

25:29 Chris Yeah.

25:30 Adam Yeah, he he was he was actually there.

25:32 Adam I saw on Instagram earlier.

25:34 Adam which is really annoying because we'd I'd have said hello.

25:37 Lee I was going to say, yeah, if we'd known.

25:38 Lee

25:39 Adam but yeah, no, so friend of the show, Andrew Elias.

25:41 Adam I don't think I'll speaking out of turn there.

25:43 Lee And there you go.

25:44 Lee Raise a drink to you.

25:45 Adam Yeah.

25:45 Adam And, yeah, but also you've got, you had like Caroline, Caroline Monroe.

25:53 Adam Lynn Lowry, Paula Pit, it's like, you know, you've got these, like more well-known names in there as well.

26:01 Adam Like from sort of the horror history and stuff like that.

26:07 Adam And the narration, the guy who did the narration, is a guy called The Shend, who I think was there.

26:14 Adam And he's like, he's like this weirdly, I don't know much about him, it's just a name I've heard a lot, and yeah, he's just in he's just in the credits of lots of TV shows.

26:32 Adam I think because he is a he's a big physically imposing tall man and so like he's in Knowing Me, Knowing You and Red Dwarf and sort of Twitchwood and stuff like that.

26:43 Adam So it's a name that I'd seen.

26:46 Adam

26:47 Adam But yeah, so he sort of tends to play these sort of like background like heavy, you know, sort of like sort of,

26:54 Adam Barbarians and sort of things like that, but then you actually he you know, he's got a beautiful voice.

27:08 Lee Yeah.

27:09 Adam You know.

27:09 Adam And I don't know if that's why he's a legend, I don't know, but he's yeah, his narration of this was absolutely fantastic.

27:18 Chris Yeah, really was.

27:20 Lee Yeah, I again.

27:22 Lee I had the same feeling as you guys, like we wanted so the the the later film was the one that we'd gone to see primarily.

27:28 Lee But we said, oh, this looks like it could be interesting, but equally, I had a hit and miss feeling about it because I didn't know if the concept could sustain for a whole.

27:36 Chris Yeah.

27:37 Lee Yeah.

27:38 Lee But yeah, as you say, it just had enough going on and enough like changes of tempo.

27:44 Lee yeah, and I just I just I love the look and feel of it.

27:47 Lee I just.

27:48 Chris Yeah, yeah.

27:48 Chris So well polished.

27:49 Lee So good.

27:50 Adam Because it was weirdly enough, I think there was in in my head when I just sort of like read about it and didn't I think I kind of thought it was.

28:00 Adam It was kind of an anthology film, but in the more specific sense of like separate stories that are kind of.

28:07 Adam The linking thing.

28:08 Adam But yeah, actually just as a sort of a a series of sort of takes on these little sort of, ideas and stuff, made it kind of more like a documentary.

28:18 Adam Like you were watching an old educational newsreel or something like that.

28:24 Lee Yeah.

28:25 Adam But also done in that sort of brilliant,

28:29 Adam Oh, and yes, this is the weird bit.

28:34 Adam the director of that is a guy called Thomas Lee Rutter.

28:37 Adam Who I looked up.

28:38 Adam he's in, The Haunting of the Lady Jane, he's one of the blokes on the, you know, there's the the boat that follows them with.

28:46 Lee Oh yeah, with the weird.

28:48 Chris With the weird.

28:49 Lee Boat.

28:49 Chris Yeah.

28:50 Adam Yeah, he's one of them.

28:52 Lee Oh.

28:53 Adam But only in the context of that film.

28:55 Adam I haste to add.

28:57 Lee Yes, no, I said.

28:58 Lee Yeah.

28:59 Lee Oh, that's excellent.

29:00 Lee See.

29:00 Lee That's what I love about this, and I do wonder if it's because of this, this, a horror festival scene that we kind of have around here with this and with Southend.

29:13 Lee Yeah, where you do get people in each other's films.

29:17 Lee So somebody will be an actor in something and then direct and write something and people.

29:21 Lee One of the guys who we always see at, Southend, I do follow him on Instagram, I can't remember his name at the moment.

29:28 Lee Yeah, he was actually in the film that we watched yesterday, he was in the pocket film.

29:34 Adam Johnny Vivash.

29:36 Lee Possibly.

29:38 Lee yeah, I say, I've seen him walking around and I've always said hello to him and he's got a really interesting Instagram.

29:43 Lee But yeah, then he was one of the people in the Saance scene, sitting around the table.

29:48 Adam Oh, right, okay.

29:50 Adam I don't know.

29:52 Lee Yeah, no, I can't quite remember his name at the moment.

29:54 Lee but yeah, I say, I've just always seen him as one of the people at the festival who's always there and always says hello, but I don't really.

30:02 Lee

30:03 Lee Yeah, and then.

30:04 Chris Yeah, it's great how they all come together in different ways.

30:07 Lee It was probably just on the piss with them all at some point.

30:11 Lee And said, oh, I'd love to be one of these films, and I went, oh yeah, we'll put you as an extra in a thing.

30:14 Lee Yeah, and it's.

30:15 Lee It's lovely, it's really good.

30:18 Lee I could be wrong, he could be an actor, I'm not saying he couldn't act, I'm just saying, I've only ever seen him hanging around.

30:23 Lee So, sorry if that, if, you know.

30:28 Lee Oh, I've caused trouble now, haven't I, unintentionally.

30:32 Adam Dive, dive, dive.

30:34 Lee But that's the thing, like there's so many of these independent films, that it's easy to not recognize people because.

30:43 Lee There's so many of them out there, as much as I'd love to, you just can't get your they're hard because of the distribution to get hold of a lot of this stuff.

30:48 Lee I mean.

30:50 Lee I mean, look at last year, so Horror-on-Sea obviously, they'd done The Snarling and then last year they did The Last Twitch, which I didn't make it to.

31:01 Lee and that hasn't been released.

31:02 Lee There's been no date on it and nowhere I can find, I've been trying to get hold of that film now for over a year.

31:07 Lee And it's just still not out there, so there's so many of these films that are out there, that even if you're searching for them, you just can't find them.

31:14 Lee It said, yeah.

31:18 Lee But yeah.

31:20 Lee Just a thought.

31:21 Adam No, it is, it's in a way, it's really annoying that you're actually haven't you feel like you've gone back to the olden days, the very olden days, you know, where it's like, well, if it was on the telly once, you might have seen it.

31:35 Lee Yeah.

31:35 Lee And once it's gone, it's gone.

31:37 Lee The amount of stuff that we've that, you know, when we've gone to Horror-on-Sea that's been on days that we've not gone to, and I've said, I definitely need to check that out.

31:42 Lee Yeah.

31:44 Lee And I've just never managed to track it down or it comes out on limited release of like 200 DVDs, and if you've missed that window, like it's gone and you just don't get to pick this stuff up.

31:57 Lee But again, it is nice to have that to have that rarity and that collector's thing, like I've got a few DVDs in my collection, that I've bought literally just because they've been on a release of 150 copies or whatever.

32:06 Lee And then it's it's once it's gone, it's gone and they don't do them again, and it's lovely in a, you know, in in the YouTube era to have something that still feels rare and hard to get hold of.

32:15 Lee But.

32:17 Chris Sure.

32:18 Lee But that's because I'm.

32:19 Adam But it's worrying when that rare that rare and difficult to get hold of thing is 28 Days Later.

32:24 Lee Heh.

32:25 Lee Heh heh heh.

32:26 Adam Just.

32:27 Adam Fucking mental.

32:27 Adam At that point, you're like, yeah, probably no one's seen these things if that can apparently slip through the fucking net.

32:34 Lee Heh heh heh.

32:37 Lee yes, sorry, I took us off on a tangent there.

32:40 Adam

32:42 Lee as you can tell, I am still drinking from yesterday.

32:45 Lee So,

32:47 Lee

32:48 Lee so, yes, so the next film that we caught up with again had a short before it.

32:54 Lee so we saw the short Kin.

32:58 Adam James Waterhouse was the director for that, yeah.

33:02 Adam Yeah, which was a snippet of a it was it was a snippet.

33:05 Chris Pretty badass woman.

33:08 Adam Of a of a, it was it was a snippet of a badass woman in a on a bad day.

33:13 Adam In a bad time.

33:14 Chris It was.

33:15 Chris Yes.

33:16 Adam Sort of, I don't know, you know, it was.

33:19 Chris Arguably, arguably could could quite possibly happen, you know, the way we're heading.

33:25 Adam Oh, mate.

33:26 Adam It yeah, it sort of it unknown civilians now just feels like, oh, probably that.

33:32 Lee Heh heh heh heh.

33:33 Lee Yeah.

33:36 Lee yeah, it did, it felt more of a show reel to me.

33:38 Lee Possibly than a short because there was, as you say, like there was no real context for a lot of it, and it just felt but but as you say, it was that just dropped in for a snippet, it was unexplained post-apocalyptic.

33:51 Lee You didn't quite know what was going there was a woman on her own with a child, there was some kind of a compound which she'd snuck into to try and steal some canned food.

34:02 Lee and then she just proceeded to beat the shit out of a load of people who were trying to stop her from stealing that food.

34:07 Lee

34:08 Lee It was beautifully shot.

34:10 Lee It looked.

34:10 Chris Yeah.

34:11 Lee Yeah.

34:11 Lee It was just.

34:12 Lee It looked fantastic but it just on its own, I felt a bit, what, I'm sure I should have checked before before we came on, but

34:20 Adam I should have I should have checked before before we came on, but

34:25 Adam I did see I'm sure I saw in the credits that I think it was like the fight choreographers were the actors in it.

34:33 Adam So I.

34:33 Lee Yeah.

34:34 Adam I wonder if it was like it was almost like a show reel of their.

34:39 Chris To be fair, if if I wanted some action like that, I'd probably be contacting them.

34:45 Lee It looked incredible, didn't it?

34:47 Lee Like.

34:48 Lee It was just.

34:50 Lee Like, and it was people being smashed through walls, and it just looked like it looked like a like a, you know, like, an Avengers style budget.

34:57 Lee Yeah.

34:59 Lee Didn't it?

35:00 Lee Like.

35:01 Lee Nothing about it looked cheap or shotty, it looked fantastic, the choreography was amazing.

35:06 Adam The choreography was like the rave, you know, it was just really.

35:10 Lee Yeah.

35:10 Adam It was just really intense, you know.

35:13 Lee Yeah.

35:14 Lee It did.

35:15 Lee It looked fantastic.

35:16 Lee I say, it just as a standalone short, it just it didn't it didn't kind of have enough of a carry through of the story, it was just a very small short, but what we saw was absolutely phenomenal.

35:25 Lee It was intense and powerful and yeah, it looked brutal.

35:29 Lee Didn't like the fights like it looked so what I loved was the sound, it didn't have when there was punches and kicks, it didn't have that overblown sound, very unrealistic.

35:37 Lee It sounded like.

35:38 Chris That is it, right?

35:40 Chris I mean, I haven't.

35:41 Chris Been to a huge amount of independent film festivals, but the production does seem to be, you know, impressive in the ones I've seen.

35:51 Chris So either.

35:52 Chris Either you've both picked, you know, especially well or yeah, it's it's really fantastic how well they can produce these.

36:03 Lee I think that's the thing.

36:04 Lee I think in the now people can buy stuff.

36:08 Lee So if you've got a talent.

36:11 Lee And I think that's the thing, with company, you know, with, stuff like this, so like Romford and to go back to to the Southend one as well, Horror-on-Sea.

36:20 Lee I'm guessing they get an awful lot of people put stuff in and they get to choose the stuff.

36:25 Chris Okay, well, yeah.

36:27 Lee And and and that's the way it should be, you know, like you pick the stuff that's got real talent and really shines through and and and looks looks like what you want, really.

36:37 Lee You know, you want to people are paying ticket prices, they want to be impressed.

36:40 Lee So you kind of pick the cream and leave everything behind.

36:47 Lee but yeah, I I think it's a it's a great time at the moment that people can, you know, you can buy a camera for a few hundred quid.

36:53 Lee And if you got the talent and the know-how, you can make something look exception.

36:58 Adam And do it yourself.

37:00 Lee Or you could do on your own.

37:03 Lee That is why.

37:05 Adam That is why I will not make my masterpiece.

37:09 Lee Because your iPhone has only got so many gigs.

37:12 Lee And you've got to save some for your WhatsApp and your.

37:15 Adam Yeah, kind of.

37:16 Lee No.

37:17 Adam Number of gifts I've got saved in there, not in the cloud, mate, in there.

37:22 Lee Heh.

37:23 Adam Burning.

37:24 Adam Burning circuits.

37:29 Lee

37:30 Lee Yes, so our final feature length.

37:32 Lee So, our second feature length of yesterday, we saw How to Kill Monsters.

37:40 Adam Yeah.

37:41 Lee yes.

37:41 Lee I so I.

37:43 Lee Sort of had a flick through of films and I recognized Lindsey Crain.

37:48 Lee Who we'd seen previously in Eating Miss Campbell.

37:52 Chris Yeah.

37:53 Lee So I thought, oh, we've seen her in something, she was pretty good.

37:58 Lee And I watched the trailer for this and immediately I was like, right, we're going on Saturday.

38:02 Lee Because I need to go and see that on a big screen with a crowd, it looks like it's going to be it looks like it's going to be funny and an all-out gorefest.

38:11 Lee

38:12 Chris So I didn't watch the trailer, I didn't know what to expect, I didn't really know anything about it, at this point, I was like, well, so far, you guys have have done a fantastic job.

38:22 Chris So I did have I did have reasonably high expectations and glad to say it it achieved all of them and possibly went over and above.

38:36 Adam Yes.

38:37 Adam so the director's Stewart Spark.

38:40 Adam Now.

38:40 Adam Have you seen that he's also done he's done a film before this with.

38:46 Adam a number of the same cast called Book of Book of Monsters.

38:51 Chris

38:52 Adam I don't know if that had come across.

38:53 Lee Oh.

38:54 Adam If you'd you'd come across that, Lee.

38:55 Adam Because I, you know, just because he's as far as I'm aware, that's like that's out and.

39:00 Adam Viewable, you know, somewhere.

39:05 Lee Oh yeah, the cover definitely looks, yeah, I've seen the cover somewhere, but I haven't seen the film.

39:11 Lee But.

39:12 Lee Yeah, having seen this now, I will 100% be trying to track a copy of that down, I think.

39:17 Adam Yeah, as as I say, it's got pretty much the same.

39:20 Adam Not the same, sorry, it's got a lot of the same cast members in it.

39:25 Lee

39:26 Lee Excellent.

39:28 Chris Now the the comedy style of this did remind me of The Snarling, it was it was just done just right, mixing the the drama.

39:40 Chris The slightly weirdness, a little bit awkward sometimes.

39:45 Chris And yeah, just a great, great, great range of cast playing off each other.

39:50 Adam It's that it's that lovely thing of the weird button against the mundane.

39:59 Lee Yeah.

39:59 Adam But like the very mundane, you know, so much.

40:03 Lee Oh.

40:03 Lee Yeah.

40:04 Lee

40:05 Lee but just very quickly though.

40:07 Lee Mentioning the trailer.

40:08 Lee You saying you didn't watch the trailer.

40:09 Lee What I particularly liked, if I'm remembering correctly, the trailer sets the film up to just be that opening part in the cabin.

40:19 Lee So everything comes afterwards.

40:20 Chris That's interesting.

40:20 Lee You might see in flashes, but it sets it up as if it's a whole story in that cabin.

40:26 Lee And without giving spoilers, which I've just accidentally done.

40:29 Chris It.

40:29 Chris Turns out.

40:31 Lee That is only the opening of how it all kicks off, and then it goes fucking mental from there.

40:37 Lee yeah.

40:37 Lee So, so I really liked that, like the fact that the trailer kind of tricks you into thinking it's something it isn't.

40:45 Chris Disguise it.

40:46 Lee But.

40:47 Lee Yeah.

40:47 Chris Definitely have a nice twist.

40:48 Lee Yeah.

40:51 Adam Yeah, it was.

40:52 Adam And, like you said, like with it has that same sort of thing.

40:55 Adam So, it's, a girl is led from a cabin.

40:59 Adam Covered in blood by the police, there's four bodies there, she's clearly the suspect and is taken to the police station to ask about it.

41:09 Adam And then.

41:11 Adam She tells the story of how into the, you know, monsters from another dimension were involved.

41:15 Chris And they absolutely have self-awareness about what they're doing with this.

41:18 Chris Yes.

41:19 Chris Yeah, it's clearly an an in joke if you've.

41:22 Chris Appreciate any other horror even close to this.

41:29 Adam It has, yeah, it it's definitely.

41:30 Adam It knows that it's it knows it's daft and it's but it's quite happy to deal with that and but also.

41:38 Chris Do it effectively with a chain saw.

41:42 Adam But I don't find anything within the scenes moving away from that, you know, it's like the sort of,

41:49 Chris You still get to enjoy all of that, the original horror aspect with the extra layer added.

41:57 Adam Yeah.

41:57 Adam And I was I was quite excited, Lee got a Lee got a poke in the ribs and me excitedly going.

42:02 Adam It's, it's Nicholas Vince, it's Nicholas Vince, Nicholas Vince.

42:07 Lee Yeah.

42:08 Adam Nicholas Vince, Chara.

42:11 Adam Hilla.

42:12 Adam Hellraiser.

42:12 Chris I got I got to say his role in this was was top top quality.

42:18 Lee Again, just subverting expectation and going the way you wouldn't expect for that character to in such a brilliant and hilarious way.

42:27 Chris Yeah.

42:27 Chris Absolutely.

42:28 Lee Yeah, which everybody in this did, like I I really liked everything, I liked.

42:35 Chris Some several times.

42:35 Lee Yeah.

42:37 Lee Yeah, I just thought all the characters were great.

42:39 Lee They all worked perfectly well together, all the actors were on the same page.

42:43 Lee It looked great, it sounded really good.

42:46 Lee yeah, it was it was ridiculous in the right places, but it still had a really suspenseful feeling to it.

42:57 Lee yeah, I I had an absolute blast watching this.

43:00 Lee And I was gutted when it ended.

43:02 Lee Heh.

43:02 Chris Yeah.

43:02 Lee Heh heh heh.

43:04 Lee

43:05 Adam And it has I mean it and it does sort of.

43:08 Adam It does have its share of surprises and sort of it's not just straight ahead.

43:13 Lee And.

43:14 Adam

43:16 Adam Yeah, and I mean it looks.

43:17 Adam It looked.

43:19 Adam Amazing, it had Tony from Dinner Ladies in it, that's that's always a good sign.

43:23 Lee Heh heh heh heh.

43:24 Adam So.

43:25 Lee Yeah.

43:26 Lee It's great.

43:27 Lee I was saying, I think Lindsey Crain is going to be one to watch, this is the second film I've seen with her in.

43:34 Lee and yeah, both of them are fantastic and exactly my cup of tea, especially the type of film like this to watch at a film festival.

43:43 Lee With a load of people and you've all been drinking all day.

43:44 Lee And everyone's in that party mood.

43:48 Chris Definitely.

43:48 Lee Yeah, I mean, I'd gladly watch this again at home, I definitely will be watching this again at home when I get hold of it.

43:54 Lee but yeah, it's a great film to watch with a crowd.

43:56 Lee And everyone was laughing and everyone was just having.

43:58 Lee A a while of a time, it was such a a fun movie, it it's perfect for a festival like this, I think.

44:02 Chris Yeah, really is.

44:06 Lee We've all gone.

44:07 Lee Very quiet.

44:07 Lee For a while.

44:08 Adam I was actually.

44:09 Adam Because I could still see you moving.

44:10 Adam So I was like, as as my microphone gone.

44:13 Lee I thought I just stopped talking because I've been waffling for quite a while.

44:17 Adam We were.

44:17 Adam No, I think we've, no, I'm going to put that, that's not dead here.

44:21 Adam That is the stun silence of how much fun we had.

44:25 Lee Yes.

44:25 Lee I'm.

44:25 Lee I'm leaving this in.

44:27 Lee I can even hear Claire laughing.

44:27 Lee I can even hear Claire laughing in the background.

44:29 Lee Heh heh.

44:30 Lee Yeah.

44:31 Lee Fuck it.

44:31 Lee I'm leaving that.

44:31 Adam This this poor woman, poor woman, she had she had to she had to put up with me, around the countryside.

44:41 Lee Heh heh heh heh heh. Romford is the countryside now, is that where we going?

44:44 Lee We've said it's.

44:45 Lee London, we can't.

44:46 Unknown That's syllables, right?

44:48 Lee Heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh heh.

44:52 Adam On that beautiful note.

44:54 Lee Heh heh heh.

44:57 Lee but yeah.

44:59 Lee So, go and check out, How to Kill Monsters.

45:02 Lee Go and check out, The Pocket Book of a Pocket Book of Superstition.

45:07 Adam Pocket film of Superstitions.

45:09 Lee Pocket film.

45:10 Lee I keep calling it book, I'm terrible.

45:12 Adam It's because it is, it should be in. I love even that concept that it's like, well you just take the little real and put it in your pocket, put it in your pocket. It's just that that's that that just appealed to me.

45:24 Adam It was just so.

45:26 Adam Yeah, just brilliant.

45:28 Lee Yeah.

45:28 Lee It was, it was lovely.

45:29 Lee So, it was a lovely day and it was really good and we had a really good laugh.

45:33 Lee So, yeah, go and check it out next year, people, check out the films we saw.

45:37 Lee there's so much stuff on there as well that now I I've seen the stuff that we saw.

45:43 Lee Now I'm gutted for the stuff we missed, so I'm going to be again.

45:46 Adam Yes.

45:46 Lee Like I say, some of it's going to be hard to find because it seems independent.

45:50 Lee It takes a little while to come out sometimes, but

45:55 Adam Also.

45:55 Adam Also, I forgot to mention.

45:56 Adam I in the, like in the program, like, they do classic films as well during the day.

46:06 Lee Yeah, I saw that.

46:07 Lee I didn't realize that until now, but yeah.

46:09 Lee They got great.

46:10 Lee Oh God, they showed Turbo Kid and we missed it.

46:13 Adam They showed the fucking Medusa Touch.

46:16 Lee Oh.

46:17 Lee I need to see that.

46:17 Adam I need to see that on the big screen.

46:19 Lee Heh.

46:20 Lee See.

46:21 Lee This is what I love about independent cinemas like that, like I'd love to.

46:26 Lee so I don't know, I thought when they when it first reopened, that was one of my first thoughts is, if we could get an equivalent of the Prince Charles in Romford, that'd be awesome.

46:35 Lee Where they do like all nighters and they do regular classic showings.

46:41 Lee So, yeah, like, you know, like the Breakfast clubs they do and stuff where they show it regularly and do like an early Sunday film and the hangover club and all that stuff.

46:46 Lee So, yeah, fingers crossed, but yeah.

46:49 Chris Yeah.

46:50 Lee Yeah.

46:51 Lee Go and check out, premiere cinema at Romford, it's a great place to go and watch all your films anyway.

46:55 Lee If you're in the area over any of the other cinemas, I'm going to go on record and say that, because it's whenever I get a chance, if I'm going to the cinema.

47:00 Lee Which I don't do very often.

47:02 Lee That is the place I'll go.

47:05 Lee

47:06 Lee Yeah, and they'll get not to the point that we can't get tickets.

47:09 Chris Not to the point that we can't get tickets.

47:11 Lee Oh yeah, no.

47:12 Lee Don't fucking fill the place out, so we don't get in.

47:14 Lee Pricks.

47:15 Lee But, but if you're not a prick, and you're not too many people, then come.

47:17 Lee It'd be lovely.

47:19 Lee

47:20 Lee Heh heh.

47:21 Unknown You're not too many people.

47:22 Lee Heh heh heh.

47:23 Lee You know.

47:24 Lee I mean.

47:24 Lee Sorry.

47:25 Lee That's all right.

47:26 Lee

47:26 Lee But yeah.

47:28 Lee So, yeah, I I'd love to get to a point where it's like that like the Prince Charles where they do kind of, you know, like, you know, like the breakfast clubs they do and stuff where they show it.

47:35 Lee Regularly and do like an early Sunday film and the hangover club and all that stuff.

47:39 Lee So, yeah.

47:40 Lee Fingers crossed, but yeah.

47:42 Lee Go and check out, Premier Cinema Romford, it's a great place to go and watch all your films anyway.

47:46 Lee If you're in the area over any of the other cinemas, I'm going to go on record and say that, because it's whenever I get a chance, if I'm going to the cinema.

47:52 Lee Which I don't do very often.

47:54 Lee That is the place I'll go.

47:56 Lee

47:57 Lee Yeah, and they'll be there for next year for the horror show.

47:59 Chris Yeah.

48:00 Chris Yeah.

48:02 Lee Right, thanks ever.

48:03 Lee So much for listening everybody.

48:04 Lee Good night.

48:05 Chris Good night.

48:06 Adam Good night.