We Have Been Watching And The Monster From Hell
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Welcome To Horror Presents: “We Have Been Watching And The Monster From Hell”. It’s time, faithful listeners, for the WTH team to have another one of our fireside chats about our inter-schedule viewing, and this time we’re joined by special guest; Lady Jennifer (her motivation: it’s half term and she was bored). This episode we discuss 70s anthology series “Thriller”, 1959’s “Horrors of the Black Museum”, Channel Four’s “Don’t Hug Me I’m Scared”, Hammer’s “Scars of Dracula” and “Taste the Blood of Dracula”, 2014’s “It Follows”, 2023’s Ghost Story for Christmas “Lot No. 249” and the brilliant series “Wellington Paranormal” which now has a podcast. No prep needed, but listeners beware, as here be (possible) spoilers and (definite) swearing. Join us!
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LeeGood evening and welcome to horror. I'm Lee.
ChrisI'm Chris.
AdamI'm Adam.
LeeAnd this evening we are joined by repeated, return offender Lady Jennifer. Good evening, Jennifer.
JenniferWoo! Good evening.
AdamHey.
LeeWhat we are this honor. every time she gets dragged back in.
JenniferYes, the the honor is, it's half term next week, so I know I'm free up and, you know, what else am I going to do with myself?
LeeI would like to point out, she is a teacher. I am not a 40 year old man married to a ghoul, just to be clear.
JenniferDon't end up on a list. Speaking of lists, I hope everyone's got their list. This evening is a, what we've been watching.
Leethere will be spoilers, there will be swearing, as always there is.
Leeso as you are the guest and it's been quite a long time, Lady Jennifer, what have you been watching?
JenniferDon't want to go first.
JenniferOh, right then. so we watched, Horrors of the Black Museum. Not a film I'd heard of before.
LeeWhat have you Michael got?
AdamYes.
JenniferYeah, Michael Goff with exciting hair, kind of, you know, gray side bits and, I only ever see him in Batman being much older, so, yeah.
AdamYes.
JenniferI think not knowing anything about it and just going in cold, really pleasantly surprised. I thought, why wasn't it one that's been on our list earlier or, you know, we've heard of, or I feel like it's sort of passed me by somewhat.
JenniferWell, I don't know if you heard Adam, you've heard of it particularly or.
AdamI've, I remember as far as I can remember, because it's, it's more of a murder mystery, isn't it? It's like a crime mystery rather than.
JenniferIt's still horror, though.
AdamYeah. Oh, no, absolutely, it's horror.
ChrisYeah. It's the horrors of the Black Museum. If you call it anything else, it's like.
ChrisWhat, what is it that makes it horror then? If it is predominantly a thriller?
JenniferWell, like it's why it's Yeah.
JenniferYeah, the way it's sort of set up, he has a museum of, you know, horrific killing implements, so, and it's quite, there's a sort of element of hypnotism, kind of drugging someone to do his bidding.
JenniferSo it's all a little bit, you know, okay.
AdamIt's a bit heightened, yeah.
JenniferIt's a lot going on.
AdamAnd Black Music, the, because that's what Scotland Yard have, the Black Museum, which is where they keep all their stuff from famous crimes and things like that. So like that's where really.
ChrisYeah.
AdamYeah. And that's where the name comes from.
AdamI went to an exhibition of it at the London Museum years ago.
LeeOh, right.
AdamBut they, yeah, they had a whole thing. I mean, that was me and Sarah, my sister, who are Siamese true crime buffs. Joined at the head and we were sort of,
Adamyeah, we just went around, oh my God, it's John Hate's apron.
AdamIt's Christy strangling chair.
AdamAnd I know you shouldn't be in the same way that you'd go around, but it's these things you've read about and think, you know, much in the same way as you go around and go, oh, that's the costume that someone wore in that scene or something like that.
Adambut, but yeah, no, the film is, it's that same sort of, I suppose thriller thing.
Jennifer
AdamYou know, where it's like, it doesn't, it doesn't have a supernatural side to it, but it definitely is more macabre and stuff than a, you know, I don't know, the way seven is.
LeeYeah, exactly, yeah.
JenniferYeah.
LeeI think the only thing I knew about it was the, the binoculars, obviously, it's one of those pictures that gets used on the clip shows so frequently.
JenniferNo, I was not expecting that.
LeeAnd it was on in the first two minutes of the film.
JenniferOh, I see where this is going.
JenniferIt was, yeah, it was quite horrific.
Jenniferbut the most horrific thing was not the pointy binoculars, it was the pointy bras that they wear or wore back then in the fifties. it's horrendous.
JenniferI think they're torture implements.
JenniferBut, yeah.
LeeYeah, they were pretty creepy.
ChrisWe we can't fully appreciate this, but.
JenniferNo, we could.
JenniferI stopped getting one, I'm sure.
JenniferGive it a go.
JenniferBut, yeah, no, it was, it was good fun.
JenniferWe saw the, the, the precursor to Tetris, didn't we?
LeeYes.
Chris
JenniferThere's this big weird machine, just a long entire wall. No idea what it did.
JenniferBut on the screen, it kept flashing up shapes, but like Tetris shapes.
JenniferNo apparent reason. I say, there was no explanation of what it did.
LeeThey never just said now I've got my amazing new supercomputer.
JenniferAnd the museum.
LeeThe museum.
JenniferWill be even better.
JenniferBut he didn't.
LeeHe didn't.
JenniferHe didn't even say what it was, just a machine that did something, but the shapes were Tetris, so that's where they got it from, really.
AdamI suppose back then just computer was a word you invoked.
ChrisYeah.
AdamIt's like, well, obviously, clearly, obviously that will enhance whatever evil scheme I'm doing. He's got a computer. Oh, supernatural itself, yeah.
AdamI still use that at work. I do have to say to them sometimes, it's like, look, tell me it's a magic box where I put something in it and the email goes somewhere else.
AdamYou don't telling me is going to make less sense.
AdamYou know, just just explain it to me in sort of fabulistic terms and I'll be fine.
JenniferNice.
LeeExcellent. Right. So, Adam, what have you been watching?
Adamwell, the first one I'm going to kick off with is, me and Claire spent most of three months watching,
Adaman old series called Thriller.
Adamfrom 1973, ran from 1973 until 1976 on and was shown on ITV.
JenniferOh.
Adamit was an anthology series created by Brian Clements who basically is the man who made the Avengers what the Avengers became.
AdamAnd he wrote Dr. Jekyll and Sister Hyde and Captain Chronos and lots of bits and pieces and created the professionals and stuff like that.
AdamAnd Thriller is a series of TV movies that were made sort of on the premise that they would be shown on American TV as movies as well. So you'd get a majority English cast and then one token American actor in a lead role. And, yeah, but there are, it's a pretty consistent series, certainly the first sort of like, the first four series are pretty solid all the way through, which is very rare on a anthology series.
AdamBut definitely, and it was obviously it was made over here, as I say,
Adamit was made over here with like a sort of token American cast in, but you've got people in there like Robert Powell and Julian Glover, Ingrid Pitt, Anthony Valentine, Dennis Elliot, Dennis Waterman, Jeremy Brett,
AdamBrian Blessed, who appears on the menu screen, and Claire was desperate for Brian to be in it and spoiler alert, he turned up in the penultimate episode of series six.
LeeOh, right.
AdamBut he's been on that menu screen since disc one. And we've been, we've been counting through everyone else.
AdamRight. We've seen Peter Vo, we've definitely seen Da Elliot, we've seen, we've, we've seen, you know,
LeeYou should have got Robert Powell or whatever. And then you could have played Bingo and whoever got there first.
AdamOh, I wish. We should have. You know, you're not going to miss him if he's, if he's got a part to play.
AdamYep. Oh, actually, on a side note, I've also been watching Space 1999.
AdamHe's turned up twice in it, and the first time round he was very subdued. And then the second time round, I think he was making up for the fact that he was very subdued in the first fucking bat shit the second time round he turns out.
AdamFirst time round you're like, oh yeah, Brian's a really good actor.
AdamThe second time round it's Brian.
LeeOh.
AdamAnd, certainly the only man who you feel, yes, he probably could shout for someone in a snowstorm.
AdamBut that's by the by.
Adambut they're, it's a bit like a sort of Tales of the Unexpected. You get like a sort of murder like a sort of crime or murder plot or something like that.
AdamBut a lot of them are puzzles that you have to unravel and some of them are, you do get some that touch into the supernatural and horror and stuff like that.
Adamthere's some episodes that I definitely recommend. There's one called someone at the top of the stairs, which is someone, which is in the first series and it's someone this couple of girls go and stay at this house that's been converted into flats.
AdamAnd everyone there's really weird and it gets weirder and weirder and there's possibly someone at the top of the stairs that might suddenly appear.
AdamAnd it almost feels like Sapphire and Steel. It's very, it has that same sort of woozy sort of horror of haunting thing to it.
Adamthere's also one called Nurse will make it better,
Adamwhich is, which stars the fucking get this, Diana Dors and Patrick Troughton.
LeeWow.
AdamAnd Diana Dors basically plays a, she's a nurse who's hired to look after this, paraplegic girl who's like, I think she, she falls off a horse or she's in a car crash and is paralyzed.
AdamAnd she comes in as the new nurse. And slowly but insidiously,
Adamyou realize there's a lot more to her, and there's a lot more sort of going on.
AdamAnd, yeah, she has powers and she has influence and she's malign,
Adamand she does it so fucking well.
AdamAnd then Patrick Troughton turns up, very much like a sort of early, like,
Adamit's like his character from The Omen did this on his way to tackle Damien.
AdamThat same sort of character.
Adambut yeah, they're the very sort of like supernatural ones, but there's also, there's really good just mysteries where you'll be like,
Adamthere's, there's one called where the action is, where this guy somehow gets trapped in the house of the world's biggest gambler who basically imprisons him because he just wants to play him at poker.
AdamBecause he always wins is the thing.
AdamAnd it's like just, and that gets dark as fuck as that goes on.
Adamand there's another one called The Crazy Kill, where Anthony Valentine and another guy have have broken out of prison.
AdamSo they break into this guy's house and it's Den and Denm Elliot and his wife. And slowly, but surely, first of all, they have to pose Anthony Valentine has to pose as his butler when the police come round.
AdamAnd then it oh no, when a journalist comes around. And then it gets weirder and you realize that actually Anthony Valentine's not the only person with something to hide.
AdamAnd it's.
AdamYeah.
AdamYeah, seriously, as a series, there's a lot more, there's a lot more hit than miss.
AdamAnd, unfortunately, they're long gone now obviously, but the network DVD, which is the version I've got, as a bonus includes in America, they would bung in about 15 minutes extra, so it would run for two hours on their showing because they'd put more adverts in and stuff like that.
AdamAnd these were basically little precursor bits that they filmed that were meant to stick into like sort of be a prologue to the film.
AdamAnd they're all fuck no, it's brilliant because they're all fucking so wrong.
AdamBecause, you know, you've you've got a, you've got like a thriller that's set in North London and then like they just film a guy's feet clearly in New York. Walking around clearly not English streets as the murderer, because there's close-ups of his trainers in the actual program.
AdamAnd, and they are ridiculously sensationalist. It's just magical to watch those because you just you watch it and it'll be something like, oh, that one's yeah,
Adamit's just setting a library with John Le Mesurier as this creepy old man. And then by the time it's on there, you've got like fucking death wish by the time that like the American intro's been added in.
AdamBut yeah, so network put them at the end of the thing, which was like a nice thing of it was almost like having an ad break between episodes that you could sort of watch, oh, this is what they, this is the mad shit that they bunge in here that doesn't fit. Well done.
LeeYou got Peter Von, though, at the start of Charles the Unexpected. I mean, he said some random. It's just brilliant stuff.
AdamOh, yeah. That's the thing. It lacks a narrator in that sense. It doesn't have a presenter or anything else like that. But the stories, like I say, they're pretty consistently good and even the ones that are, you know, it's the stuff that isn't supernatural, there's enough stuff where you're just like, I just need to know how this, what is the puzzle of this?
AdamYou know, there's, there's, what was there, there was another one called Ne of Teresa, which is just, yeah, track that one down because that is,
Adambecause you're like, but what, how is this happening? And the, the final explanation, whether you go with it or not, it's like, that's fucking clever.
AdamI have not seen that in any other thing and this is from like 1973. So I'm surprised it hasn't been ripped off a lot.
ChrisThat's truly impressive.
AdamYeah.
LeeDefinitely rip.
AdamBut yeah, so Thriller would be the one I would say, yeah, that's been a lot of our watching, so.
LeeExcellent. Fantastic.
LeeChris, what have you managed to squeeze into your watching agenda?
ChrisSo, so I have watched, Don't hug me, I'm scared,
Chriswhich in my head was still, I don't know, it just been released on, I think it was Channel 4. It was on one of the streaming TV channels I watched it on.
ChrisAnd but I think it was like 2022 now that it actually came out.
AdamI think it was Whenever the Queen, it was whenever the Queen died because they fucking took it off air, like the final two episodes off air.
ChrisWell, that still seems like it should have been last month, as far as I'm concerned.
ChrisSo, who knows, whatever's happened in the past year or nearly two.
ChrisBut yeah, so, so and I didn't know what to expect.
ChrisI I can't remember if we talked about it when it was released. I don't know if either of you or Jennifer, you've watched it.
JenniferI feel like we talked.
AdamI've watched, I've watched some of it. Okay. The actual Channel 4 one, yeah.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisOkay. So, so it was interesting at first. I didn't get into it as quickly.
ChrisI suppose because it changed to 20 plus minutes per episode. It sort of felt a bit, it's just a bit of a change where you're expecting it to be sort of quick and explain, you know, the theme and then get to the end.
ChrisBut but after a little while, I really did start to get into it. And then what was funny, I actually went back and just watched the first episode of the web series and it's like, oh, that's that's kind of now,
Chrisit's now more uncanny that it looks like a wrong version of that.
ChrisWhen that looks like a wrong version of all your kids programs. It's like, no, I've got used to that now. So that's sort of almost looking normal. Now this looks really weird to see the originals.
ChrisBut yeah, it's like, so I really enjoyed it. I I do love the the themes that they cover, like we got jobs, death, family, friendship, transport,
Chrisand then the final one, electricity, which is certainly more than just electricity.
ChrisBut it's interesting, there's definitely some character development throughout.
ChrisAnd I I started to quite like yellow guy and in this one, things kind of step up a bit. He even goes upstairs in the house and there's there's a there's a sort of hint there's something, because you, I mean, they've clearly got loads of references throughout all of the episodes that if you're so inclined, you know, there's probably quite a lot you could think about and try and see what they're getting out at deeper levels than than the obvious.
ChrisAnd how so I think there is, there is an extra layer of story, which whether they do continue to go into it or not, I don't know. I haven't seen if there's any plans.
ChrisBut but yeah, it's I I definitely did enjoy it.
Chrisinteresting. My son caught a few bits and found it very funny and it's like, no, I have to press stop because it is about to turn very bad.
ChrisAnd he's like, what what would it how how can it be? Like, look, it's it's silly. It's funny.
ChrisBut there's like even the the bits and parts, that's on the first episode on jobs and it's like, oh yeah, you're making bits and parts. And of course, he found it very funny, this idea that you've got this generic factory and they just make these weird bits and parts and then then they make the weird one and then it gets sort of squashed in the machine.
ChrisIt's like, it still is, you know, it is a bit horrible still.
ChrisBut yeah, so, so I I did really enjoy it.
Chrisand I would quite like it if they made more.
AdamI remember the jobs one.
AdamI don't think.
ChrisYeah, that's the first episode.
AdamI can't remember how many how many further I watched.
AdamIt wasn't actually through lack of interest. I think it was just genuinely. Didn't yeah.
AdamForgot they were on, you know, just forgot about it and yeah, didn't.
ChrisWell, I guess I guess it didn't have, it didn't have a huge announcement,
Chrisbut it clearly has got, has got, you know, some people really do like it,
Chrisfrom some of the comments I saw online.
ChrisSo, yeah, it's got a bit of a following.
AdamYeah, I think I do need to go back and finish it up, certainly, yeah.
ChrisI I think it was, yeah, and I I definitely enjoyed it. I think it's worth a watch.
LeeOh, excellent.
JenniferNice. Got there for the list.
Leeso I've watched two films, both in exactly the same vein,
Leeand both came out in the same year, which is how I actually, the film I'm going to cover now, I watched by accident because I thought it was the one that I'm going to mention later.
Leebut as it features both Patrick Troughton and Dennis Waterman, who you've just mentioned, I watched Scars of Dracula during the week.
AdamI thought it must be, yeah.
Lee
Leeyeah, what a funny little film that is.
LeeI I I really enjoyed it.
LeeIt's just, it's such a strange cast. I don't know why.
Adam
Leeobviously a lot of the sort of Hammer films carry the Michael Ripper's in it and people who you'd expect and obviously Christopher Lee is Dracula.
LeeYeah.
Leebut yeah, it's just a very strange little story,
Leebut it works really well and I really enjoy it. Patrick Troughton always, I always find it weird when he's in horror stuff because in my mind, I always remember him from being in The Box of Delights, which I'm a slightly fan of and watch every Christmas without fail.
Leeyeah, so I remember him as this kindly old gentleman. So whenever you see him like in this where he plays Clove, who's who's basically Dracula's familiar and just, you know, chops bodies up for him.
LeeIt just seems odd. I just can't, but I mean, he looks sinister as fuck. So it definitely works, but it's.
AdamThat's that's the weird thing. Patrick Troughton naturally does look like a villain.
LeeYeah.
AdamSo the fact that to me, to me he's the doctor, to you, he's the guy from Box of Delights, you know, these sort of like helpful heroic sort of but no, but his calling is, yeah, he is designed to sculpt around laboratories.
AdamThat's, you know, he's, that's him. Yeah.
Leeand I'd really like, I really like Dennis Waterman in it. I mean, it's, you know, often when they pick somebody out of British TV and put them in a, you know, a big movie like this, it doesn't always carry over so well.
LeeIt's a completely different style.
Leebut I don't know if it's just because it's so British being a Hammer film, then it's Waterman just just works really well in it.
LeeBut it's just, it's a really strange story. I don't know why.
LeeThere's something about it.
LeeIt just seems very short.
LeeLike the film doesn't feel short, but the story is just his brother turns up, he goes missing, him and his girlfriend go looking for the brother.
LeeAnd and that's basically what happened, and then they killed Dracula, unsurprisingly, because it's Hammer film.
Leebut yeah, it's really good. It's really enjoyable. I love all the sets and the, it's got a lot of those backlog sets that they use still.
Leeyeah, and it's great, really good fun.
LeeSo,
AdamThe the Hammer Dracula series, weirdly, apart from like the seventies ones, because they kind of go a bit balls out to make it a big deal.
Adambut the the rest of them after the first one, they're very sort of, they feel like there was a Dracula TV series.
LeeYes.
AdamYou know, like you say, they're not big plots, they're not like the universe of horrors of world plots. They are very sort of just a story that occurs around Dracula in that moment almost. It's not about the bigger sort of story.
AdamIt's just it's quite sort of, not mundane's the wrong word when you're dealing with fucking the undead and magic and stuff like that.
LeeJust think type of situations that they sort of, but yeah, I mean,
Leeas I say, the fact that they knocked this and the other film I'm about to talk talk about later on out in the same year.
LeeYeah, I suppose that's the thing.
LeeSo they didn't go too much into plot. They were just like, people are going to turn up.
LeeLet's just have somebody else with a two minute back story stumbling on Dracula's castle and then it all kicks off.
LeeAnd they work. I don't know how they manage, but they just make it work.
AdamWell, speak speaking of Dennis Waterman, that's another episode I'd recommend from Thriller is there's one called The Eyes Have It. And it's Dennis Waterman and, oh, I can't name, but basically, it's setting a school for the blind.
AdamAnd these terrorists turn up, they're going to use it as a point for an assassination, and it's Peter Vaughn is one of the terrorists.
AdamAnd it's one of those things where it's just done so again, so brilliantly on like, you know, but anyway, that's besides the point, but yeah,
Adamthat that's another one of the recommends is definitely, yeah, because it was just you saying Dennis Waterman, I was like, oh shit, yeah, that's a really fucking good one.
LeeExcellent. Yeah.
LeeJennifer is Googling at the moment, trying to find a copy of that box set right now.
JenniferI'm trying to find for a reasonable price.
LeeSo, next film,
JenniferJennifer.
JenniferYes. next film, we went back and rewatched, Lot 249 from the Ghost Stories for Christmas.
AdamOh, yes.
JenniferOnce, obviously, when it was actually aired on Christmas Eve.
JenniferAnd it'd been a long day.
LeeIt had been a long day.
JenniferI probably, I think watching it this time, I probably did fall asleep just before the end.
JenniferSo I was like, I don't remember that bit.
Jenniferso it was good to watch it whilst wide awake.
JenniferAnd yeah, I mean it obviously very biased because anything that Mark Gatiss does,
Jenniferobviously, love.
JenniferBut, yeah, really well done.
JenniferManaged to sort of weave the eeriness into it. But also, I thought like of its time, you know, it really set that up, didn't it, with the way they're, you know, they would be behaving at that time and, you know, playing cricket and all these different things and, yeah, I thought it was great, really good.
AdamYeah, because it's based, because it was based, obviously, it's a Conan Doyle story.
AdamAnd I I'll be honest, I wasn't too sure about them bunging Sherlock Holmes in it.
JenniferHe's sneaky, wasn't he?
JenniferYeah.
AdamYou like just a sneaking, is it, is it Sherlock Holmes and then getting him to say no ghosts need apply and it's like, right.
JenniferOh, I mean, yeah.
JenniferI thought.
AdamBut, but it's my favorite mummy story.
Adambecause because it's the, you know the Ladybird books of horror they had?
JenniferNo, I was going to find mine earlier.
JenniferJust so I could wave it at you, because I love that. Obsessively read it over and over again.
JenniferIt was great.
AdamYeah. And it was just so, it's always stuck with me that that's like that.
AdamIn my head that's, that's the mummy. If someone says the mummy, it's not Imhotep, it's not the sort of, you know, lost loves or anything else like that.
JenniferIt's.
JenniferBurning leaves and burning leaves in a student, in a student flat and yeah, that's what it is to me.
LeeYou said about Sherlock Holmes though, I quite liked it, but mainly because I thought John Heffernan who played him in this.
Leehe's got the look. Like he could play Holmes, so I I was sold just on that.
AdamBecause I was because I think that was the thing is I think I twigged it that early that I was like, he could play Sherlock Holmes. Right. Okay, I see what you've done there.
Adamalso, apparently, and I don't know if this is, this is a worry in a way is apparently they were doing a documentary about, Sherlock Holmes, around Christmas. and that they got it made on the back of that, but apparently initially they weren't going to ask for a ghost story for Christmas.
JenniferOh.
AdamAnd Mark Gates, I'd read an interview with him somewhere where he was just saying, you know, don't know if there'll be any more because we sort of piggybacked this on the fact they were doing a Conan Doyle related thing on BBC Four.
JenniferHe can ask, he could piggyback one each year, I reckon, surely.
AdamYeah, I think they must be able to.
AdamYou know.
LeeI mean, they're just, they're still so, so I love the Gatiss ones too. They're Christmas Eve.
LeeThere's not much else when you're an adult. Not much look forward to the next day really.
LeeI mean, I love.
AdamWell, I've loved.
LeeSorry Dave, if you're listening, lovely day, also Chrissy, it's amazing.
LeeChristmas was. I mean, it's not the same excitement, is it?
LeeThe TV, it's a highlight of the TV schedule for the last five years.
AdamYeah, and last, last Christmas was a bloody wash out in terms of telly. I don't think there was.
AdamI don't think there was anything on.
AdamLike, usually you get a few bits and pieces. Again, I was slightly disappointed there wasn't a Christmas Inside number nine.
AdamYeah.
AdamBut in fairness, if you've got I think they're doing series nine, which I think is going to be the last series.
JenniferYeah, that's what they've said, isn't it?
AdamSo maybe they didn't want to like, do we want to have to come up with a Christmas related one or can we write six? You know what I mean?
AdamYou don't want to necessarily lobby in there and only have five episodes left to do in the series or something.
LeeYeah, and the cast as well, wasn't it? It was like Freddie Fox was just as you like, isn't he?
JenniferHe's got that look about him, hasn't he? Just, yeah.
LeeYeah.
LeeAnd obviously Kit Harrington, it's the only thing I've seen him in other than obviously being Jon Snow and it's such a completely different character.
JenniferOh, yeah, he can act.
LeeThere you go. It's amazing.
LeeYeah.
AdamHe was actually, yeah, no, he was, I was sort of because you expect it to just be Jon Snow.
LeeYeah.
AdamBut he, the guy who played the mummy, James Swanton. he was when I saw the live Quate mess thing they did back in September with Mark Gatiss,
Adamhe played Karoon, like the astronaut. And obviously, it's not a particularly vocal part, but he actually just did like mime against light to do transformations and stuff like that at the show.
AdamAnd it was really fucking good. And yeah, and I can see the physicality of him why he was in as the mummy.
Adambut apparently he is, obsessed with Conrad Veidt from, Cabinet of Dr. Caligari and and others.
Adamso yeah.
LeeYou could see it, you really could. His performance in this as the mummy was.
LeeAnd I mean, the look of the mummy was just, oh, it was.
AdamOh, yeah. No, they did it. They did it very well.
LeeExcellent.
LeeRight.
AdamOh, yeah.
AdamYes.
Adamwell, I think I'll just give it a this is, this was one of my, this was a a Christmas present from, my beautiful, my beautiful wife.
Adambut on the Conrad Veidt, tip, watched Wax Works, the silent anthology and very fucking good, very fucking good.
Adambut also on a brief note, we also watched Wellington Paranormal series four, which we hadn't seen before, which is like the the last one that they made.
Adamand now there is a Wellington Paranormal podcast.
AdamAnd it's Mike Miano and Karen O'ry who play officers Manog and O'ry.
AdamAnd just listening to them is fucking magic,
Adambecause they're just such good mates and everything else like that. It's like getting extra time with Manog and O'ry anyway.
AdamBut it's also really fascinating to hear like the background of how the show worked and stuff like that.
AdamThey've just had Jermaine Clement on for an interview. so obviously, yeah, and like, Sergeant Mark has been on there and officer Parker have been, you know, they've interviewed lots of people with regard to it
Adamand it's just a really good podcast and I'm hoping that if we all listen to it, they might make series five.
JenniferRight, let's get on there then quick.
LeeYeah.
LeeDefinitely.
LeeTo our lists.
AdamSo you have your, you have your instructions.
JenniferThat's how it works today. Brilliant.
AdamYeah.
LeeI think we watched the first series and we didn't and I I don't think.
LeeI think I didn't hear about the others coming out, so we never.
JenniferIs it what? Oh, seriously.
AdamSeriously.
JenniferOn Amazon, in which case.
AdamTo be to be honest, get them, watch them,
Adamand we talk about it on the show, we do an episode on Wellington.
Adambecause, you know, it's, it's so in our fucking wheelhouse.
JenniferCool.
LeeExcellent. That sounds fantastic.
LeeDefinitely have to do that.
LeeChris.
ChrisSo I went, I went for it follows.
ChrisNow, superficially, I didn't watch this a few times when I nearly did, because it's called it follows, and in my head, I'm like, I could watch this.
ChrisI could just watch it, just because it's its name.
LeeWas there a film called follows?
ChrisWell, possibly.
AdamOr was it just you being lazy when you were typing it in, you got to start.
ChrisNo.
ChrisI'm done. I'm done.
ChrisLook at that.
ChrisBut but I decided, no, I'm going to do it.
ChrisI've heard, I have heard positive things about it.
ChrisI I want to see what's about.
ChrisI think I did hear, you know, the rough premise, and I was like, I can't exactly imagine how I could really want to watch a film about that for the whole length of time.
ChrisHowever, as as I got past the the initial premise, and it got deeper and deeper, I realized actually, it does have extra layers of interest and sort of philosophical ideas of children entering adulthood and realizing that one day they will expire and it's impossible to avoid that and tied up with the whole, you know, idea of sex and what that can mean to different people, at different ages and, you know, what experiences you have.
ChrisIt's like, okay, you know, actually, they've they've done something pretty good with the plot line.
ChrisAnd then also, what really sold it to me, amazing music by, Rich Vreeland, also known as Disasterpiece.
ChrisAnd the whole, the whole aesthetic of it was, it was kind of nostalgic, like it did seem, I don't I don't exactly know when it was set, but it seemed both old and new in some of the decisions that they'd made.
Chrisyeah, and so overall, it it really worked well.
Chrisyeah, I I think I'd quite happily watch it again, knowing now a bit more about it.
AdamI still got to bloody see it.
ChrisWell, that'd be interesting.
ChrisIt's so.
AdamYeah.
AdamI've got the soundtrack, and I love the soundtrack.
ChrisOh.
ChrisOkay. Yeah.
ChrisIt is. It is amazing.
ChrisYeah.
AdamIn contention. It's like, just but again, getting around to it.
AdamIt's I'm sure I'm sure I have plussed it, from from one of the from one of the cable channels.
Adambut yeah, but the disaster piece, yeah, like the music is just fucking good.
ChrisReally is.
ChrisYeah, because I mean, it it calls back to to some classics, such as John Carpenter and and others, but I think he has added his own elements that really, yeah, add something extra.
ChrisSo, no, I was I was impressed. It it turned out a lot better than I expected from the start.
JenniferI feel like the name is a little bit boring, isn't it? It follow.
ChrisYeah, yeah.
JenniferIt's a bit subdued, isn't it?
JenniferSo.
ChrisYeah.
LeeI think it did a bit when the public domain as well, which is why I was a bit, oh,
Leeany horror film that generally gets picked up by people who aren't generally horror films, horror fans, nine times out of ten.
ChrisWell, I can't see, yeah, I can't see why, because it it appears to be something that is, more easily accessible. I think it it does appear to be a simplistic plot idea, but yeah, I would say there is there is a lot more going on in it than and and it just played out really well.
ChrisYeah, just the tension was built perfectly.
ChrisAnd even the fact there were not really many adults, they're all youths. I don't exactly know what their ages are, but yeah,
Chrisit's like and then they did. It was a really good cast.
ChrisSo I was I was impressed.
AdamI've always, I mean, I've always heard good things about it,
Adambut again, it's just.
ChrisYeah.
AdamYeah.
ChrisThere's always something else.
AdamThere's always.
ChrisThere's always something else.
AdamI mean, you know, I'm trying if I started catching up chronologically,
Adamwe are fucked.
LeeYou're doing 70s now.
AdamYeah, exactly.
AdamI mean,
Adamyeah, but I'd have to go back further than that.
AdamThat'd be. Haven't watched everything from the silent era yet.
AdamNot yet.
LeeWell, keeping us in the seventies.
LeeSo my other film that I watched, which was the one I wanted to watch when I watched Scars, my second favorite Hammer film of all time, Taste of Blood of Dracula, I've rewatched.
LeeYes.
LeeMy God, that's a good film.
LeeJeffrey Keene again turned up in Horrors of the Black Museum. And it was funny, because the whole time I was watching it, I'd only watched Taste of Blood of Dracula about three days before, but because he's so much younger in Black Museum, I kept going,
LeeI've seen him in something as some miserable old shit really recently.
LeeTook me a while.
Leebut yeah, obviously Peter Salllis is in it as well, talking about taking British TV who totally random. Anthony Higgins is fantastic, who I've only also seen in Young Sherlock Holmes.
LeeOh, yes.
AdamYeah.
LeeYoung Sherlock.
LeeYoung Sherlock Holmes.
Leebut yeah, oh, and Linda Hayden as well. So, who's from, Blood on Satan's Floor.
LeeBlood on Satan's Floor.
Leeyeah, and it's really nice and it it does feel like it's got a much bigger story this one,
Leeas you were saying, as opposed to Scar.
Leethere's so much going on.
LeeAnd oh, it's just, it's bloody brilliant and it looks gorgeous and it sounds great and it just ticks all the boxes for me.
LeeI just absolutely love it.
AdamAnd it's it's interesting because it's kind of like you see that there's another option they could have gone
Adamwhere you've got Dracula as a false and Dracula is not diminished in it. Dracula is still evil. But you've got Dracula as an indirect force for good because of these fucking appalling people that he's decided to ruin their fucking like tear their world apart.
AdamAnd you're sort of like, yeah, that that feels, you know, that that sort of feels it's like justice, you know, so.
LeeYeah.
LeeIt does.
LeeFantastic.
LeeAnyone who hasn't seen it, honestly, go and watch it.
LeeIt's it's my favorite of the Dracula films of out there.
AdamIt's possibly mine. certainly of the traditional ones. 80 72 is probably my ultimate favorite, but I like.
LeeI like.
AdamOf the actual of the ones that you could show someone and say this is a Dracula film.
LeeYeah.
LeeYeah.
LeeRight. So, let's wrap things up.
Leethanks ever so much for listening, everybody.
LeeWe will be back in a fortnight's time.
LeeAdam, what are we doing because I haven't fucking written it down.
AdamI don't know.
Adam
Leewe'll put it up on social and let you know.
JenniferJennifer, you're in charge for that one.
LeeWe'll we'll put a little agenda on.
Leeyeah, sorry, we should have discussed that before we started recording it.
LeeI think I fucking did this last time as well.
LeeI'm so sorry.
LeeBut at least Adam picked the ball up last time.
LeeRight.
JenniferHe need a pool, got ready, it's Adam.
LeeHe's the one.
LeeRight, thanks ever so much for listening, everybody. take care of yourselves, go and watch all the things we've recommended,
Leego and listen to the not for everyone podcast and we'll see you in a fortnight.
LeeGood night.
AdamGood night.
LeeGood night.
AdamGood night.
