House
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It’s time for more spooky real estate, as we turn our attention to “House” (that’s the film from the 80’s, not that TV series where floppy haired fop Hugh Laurie pretended he was tough and grumpy). A film in which we learn that attractive neighbours may roll up and dump their mullet-headed sprog on you without a moment’s notice; that the kookaburra is native to Vietnam; and that Norm Peterson may have been driven to drink by his experiences inside next-door’s closet. A bizarre horror comedy from the team that created the “Friday the 13th” franchise, this manages to be a practical effect rich knockabout romp that, somehow, also encompasses PTSD and child abduction. It went on to begat a variable series of unhinged sequels. Watch (or re-watch) to avoid spoilers and join us.
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LeeGood evening and welcome to Horror. I'm Lee.
ChrisI'm Chris.
AdamI'm Adam.
LeeHey! And we are here for the second part of our Haunted House month where we are covering 1985's House.
LeeAlso, I have a suspicion that I'm not the only one who hasn't only watched the original film, is that right Adam from your message in the group?
AdamYes, I.
LeeExcellent.
AdamI bought the rather brilliant Blu-ray set off of Arrow years and years ago.
AdamAnd this has been my excuse to actually finally sit down and watch the sequels because I've only ever I'd only seen House previously.
LeeYes, so we'll be covering House, I watched House 2 and House 4.
LeeSo we'll be doing what I also like to think of as Cheers, the horror years.
ChrisYes.
LeeI'm so sorry.
LeeBut we'll get to that in due course.
AdamThey could have got Ted Danson or Carla in.
LeeOh, that would have been so good.
AdamThree and four. They should have done.
LeeSo, before we get carried away ourselves, let's ask for the first opinion of the first movie before we get carried away with the sequels.
LeeChris, what did you make of House?
ChrisYeah, well, so I do need to mention the sequels because I don't think we might have covered this, you know, briefly before.
ChrisBut I knew I'd seen House 3 and I was pretty young.
ChrisAnd it was one of those that we watched during a friend's birthday party.
ChrisThere was maybe, you know, nine of us, something like that.
ChrisBut we were pretty young.
ChrisI kind of think around 11, which seems weird now.
ChrisBut that might just be the changing times.
ChrisBut so I knew that and I remembered the bit I remembered from House 3 was turn up the voltage.
AdamOh, yes.
ChrisYeah because that yeah.
AdamHouse 3, which is they kind of tried to do a serious film.
ChrisYes, right, so that's that's what I was going to get onto.
ChrisSo in my head, this is this is my memory of it, it's that scene which is quite a powerful scene, and when you're pretty young and you haven't seen something like that before.
ChrisIt's it's like I was like, what surely he's meant to die anyway and he's just not dying and you know.
ChrisIt's like it's and then it really goes over the top.
ChrisBut it's quite scary.
ChrisAnd so so I was expecting that watching House 1 thinking it's going to be similar sort of level.
ChrisAnd and of course it's not, it is a comedy.
AdamYes.
ChrisI would say predominantly it's a comedy.
LeeI forget that every time. I don't watch the film very often, it's probably the third or fourth time I've seen it.
LeeAnd every time, yeah, I sit down for a bulls to the wall horror movie and then go, oh yeah, no, it's not, this is ridiculous.
ChrisYeah, really quite lighthearted throughout.
LeeWell, I think it's the we can't, you know, miss the fact that it is one of the most iconic covers of the 1980s.
LeeLike what a fantastic cover to a movie.
AdamAbsolutely, that that hand.
ChrisYeah, like the skeleton hand pressing the doorbell.
Chris
AdamThat is the reason that I I knew House is because you'd go in the video shop and that was like for some reason that was just one of the posters that or the covers that really stood out.
AdamAnd again, doesn't give too much away.
AdamInsomuch as you just assume from I always assumed from that cover that House was a serious film until I saw it.
ChrisAbsolutely, yeah.
Adam10, 15 years ago, whatever it was.
AdamAnd and was very pleasantly surprised by how fucking bizarre it is.
AdamAnd funny.
ChrisSo so I was going to say it it kind of reminds me of Evil Dead.
ChrisProbably the most out of anything else we've watched.
ChrisAnd.
AdamYeah, because would would this I'm trying to place it in my head, would this have this would have been after Evil Dead 2?
AdamI think, wouldn't it?
Chrisokay.
LeeI am checking.
ChrisI was going to check that.
ChrisI was going to check that with our.
AdamBecause this was in 85, actually released in 86, but it's an 85 it was made.
LeeOh Evil Dead 2 is 87.
Adamthere we go, so yeah, it does precede that.
AdamBut it's definitely that and you've got stuff like Brain Dead and things, it's that sort of it's basically, I suppose it's the logical extension of cartoons.
AdamThat you get, you know, if you live action, cartoon, there's going to be blood and bits getting lopped off and stuff like that.
AdamThat obviously doesn't happen to Bugs or Daffy, you know, they just miraculously regrow.
AdamBut if you much in the same way as Rick Mayo and Ade Edmonson's Bottom is a Looney Tunes cartoon.
ChrisYeah.
AdamSo much as there's yeah, there's a lot of but this is just such a.
AdamI mean, and genuinely good effects.
AdamThere's no.
ChrisThey are, they're definitely decent enough for the style they're going for, it all works.
AdamYeah.
LeeThe zombie soldier at the end looks absolutely phenomenal, even on like high def, it's still looks brilliant after all these years.
LeeWhich is why I find it a bit tonally strange, so in my mind, that's what I always remember is him.
ChrisYeah, the look of him.
LeeAnd then of course the point when the wife comes in and she's just like big blue bloated weird thing that any copper and it's like, and I'm just like.
ChrisAnd then she's shooting him with a shotgun.
AdamAnd giggling.
AdamAnd then the dog runs off with her severed hand.
ChrisYeah.
AdamAnd.
ChrisOh and then and then we get after that we get to the worst scene of the entire film for nowadays viewing, which is the man taking the little boy to the toilet, which is kind of a weird thing to have now.
ChrisIt's like, oh, he's just met just met you.
ChrisLike, you know, and you're just going to drop your boy off.
AdamYeah.
AdamIt's the weirdest fucking sequence in it just because you were like, you know, fortunately, he's fine.
ChrisYeah, yeah.
AdamBut, you know, if you report if you told someone that's what what you'd done before you came out.
AdamI was having trouble having a babysitter, so this bloke who'd flirted with me once, I've I've dropped the kid off at his.
AdamBut it's all right, he offered him to have a person and took him for a bath.
LeeYeah, that's what.
LeeLike.
LeeI'm not a parent, so I don't know, but I think that would be weird if I put some, said to someone, can you just look after my kid for a couple of hours and less they'd had an accident and they went, oh yeah, they had a lovely time in the bath.
LeeIt's like, why are you taking him, put him in the bath?
LeeThat's not right, I'd like you on a record?
LeeWhat's going on?
AdamIt's very it's very much of a much in the same way as the amount of 80s things where you're like, oh no, what we're actually demonstrating here is that being a borderline sex offender is what gets you the girl.
ChrisYeah.
AdamMuch in the same way that how things have sort of altered that at this point there was nothing there would have been nothing sinister about the idea of just leaving your kid with the neighbour.
ChrisNo.
LeeNo.
AdamBut yeah.
LeeThat's not what he's going to get arrested for, he's going to get arrested by the fashion police for that jumper with the V-neck that comes halfway down to his navel, what the fuck was that all about?
LeeI mean, I know it's the 80s but shit.
ChrisYeah.
AdamI think that might be the that might be the early onset of medallion.
Lee
AdamIn in so much as I can't remember it was might have been someone bloody awful to be honest, might have been like Johnny Rotten or something like that.
AdamBut said that if you notice that sort of V on a man's chest is the one place they don't gain weight.
LeeYeah.
AdamSo you you sort of you you expose that area to show that you're still manly even if you've got, you know, huge boobs and of course he had one.
AdamBut that's the area that's exposed because it still looks like, hey, look, I've got I'm pretty live and.
LeeI can see that.
LeeI can see that, I might have started busting that look out myself actually.
AdamYeah.
LeeWhen the weather turned.
Lee
LeeYeah, so this is such a fun movie and the music well, like gives it that really.
ChrisIt is.
LeeLike you're saying, sort of almost.
ChrisYeah, definitely.
ChrisIt is.
ChrisYeah that that does move it along the sound effects are good.
AdamAnd then you got and you've got George Went in there, which is another immediate indication that you are watching.
ChrisGeorge he must he must be the neighbor then.
AdamYeah, the guy who's normally Cheers.
ChrisHarold.
AdamYes.
ChrisYeah, okay.
AdamBut he yeah, so he was he is one of I think only him, Ted Danson and Rhea Perlman are the only people who've been in every who were in every episode of Cheers.
Chris
AdamBut yeah, so by that point he was already well known in a very successful comedy show.
AdamSo.
ChrisBut and he did bring comedic lines to it, what was one of them? Cujo the Racoon.
LeeYeah.
AdamIt's it's the opening bit where he's bitching about the arm.
ChrisOh.
LeeYeah, yeah, yeah.
AdamAnd she was my aunt, yeah, heart of gold though.
ChrisYeah.
AdamCuriously attractive for her age, you know.
LeeI want to know how long she was in that loft.
LeeBecause when he when somebody when that kid walked in and found her at the beginning, she turned green, but she was still swinging.
LeeAnd I was like, how high did she jump from that she's still swinging days later once her skin's gone off?
AdamShe's a very drunk.
ChrisShe might have been green already.
LeeThis is this is a possibility.
ChrisQuite attractive still.
AdamOh, for her age.
LeeThat house is stunning.
LeeAgain, it's another one of those where I just spent the whole time thinking, oh, I wish my house.
ChrisI want that house, yeah.
LeeYeah, it's fantastic.
AdamAnd I I don't care that there's Vietnam in the cupboard.
LeeYeah.
AdamI I will put up with that for this house.
LeeYeah, I I will just nail that covered shut and never have to worry about.
LeeThis is the problem.
LeeHe does poke the bear, apart from seeing his, you know, seeing his aunt hang herself vaguely.
LeeLike if he just left that cupboard shot, but he just keeps going and dicking with it for no reason whatsoever.
AdamIt's.
AdamBut also, I tell you what, one of my the that's the thing.
AdamI think the first time I watched House, the thing that absolutely sold me on it as a movie was the and again, it's just a lovely bit of comedy is he sees his aunt's like a hanging spirit.
AdamAnd then it just cuts to outside the house, I'm switching all the fucking lights on.
LeeYeah, yeah.
AdamBecause there is no way I'm standing there is no dark rooms in this house after I've seen that.
AdamNo, I'm.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd it's just it's again it's one of those things where maybe not to maybe not to a total extent, but there are there's a lot of realistic reactions.
Lee
AdamTo events and the things.
AdamLike you would you would want to film that.
ChrisYeah.
AdamYou know, if anything just as proof that I'm not going off my fucking jump.
LeeYeah.
AdamYou know, there's weird beasties in the cupboard, so.
ChrisI did I did quite like it when he twisted it around on Harold and said it's now a raccoon because it's like then it sort of flips instead of him being crazy.
ChrisIt's like Harold going, yeah, like definitely want to be involved in trying to chase this big raccoon, whereas before that he's like obviously you'd been mad.
AdamYeah.
LeeAnd to be fair, I I watched it this time back, I was like, that's a crazy idea, so he nearly gets shot with that harpoon that very afternoon or the day before.
LeeHe then invites his neighbor over at midnight who turns up with a six-pack, so you know he's drunk at least the six-pack before he turns up.
LeeAnd the second he walks through the door, you give him a loaded harpoon gun.
LeeI was like, you are asking to get shot in the face, like.
ChrisHe's he's looking for for writing material, isn't he, really?
LeeYeah.
AdamI mean, I've heard some extreme reactions to writer's block.
AdamSo.
LeeYeah.
AdamMay may maybe it is much the same, I don't know.
Adam
AdamThe thing I tell you what, and I this is a weird thing.
AdamWhen I when I was watching it though this time, I just felt it was very Jordan Peele.
Chris
AdamDo you know what I mean?
LeeYeah.
AdamSo along the lines of like nope.
LeeYeah.
AdamWhere there's the the sort of thing about proving that it's there through like filming it, but also just the fact that there's the comedy is a lot of the comedy is derived from.
AdamOh, there's someone reacting how you would fucking react in this situation.
AdamYou don't react in a movie way or indeed in a sort of ironic Buffy Scream sort of way.
AdamIt's just people like, no, no, no, I'm not fucking with that, that's just.
AdamAnd you know, and I but yeah, so I kind of got that feeling and I know that obviously Jordan Peele's like a massive fan of 80s horror.
AdamSo, you know, I'm not suggesting that it's a copy, but I think definitely that tone is there.
ChrisYeah.
Adam
AdamBut it's weird, I hadn't realized that this was the because it's basically the same.
Adamproduction team who did Friday the 13th.
ChrisOh, that's interesting.
AdamSame producer, writer.
AdamLike Sean Cunningham producing it and everything.
LeeOh yeah, Fred Decker showed on the titles as the writer.
AdamBut yeah, Fred Decker is the writer because obviously, so he wrote and directed Monster Squad.
AdamNight of the Creeps, RoboCop 3 and he wrote The Predator, not Predator, The Predator.
Adam
AdamAnd but apparently he wrote it, basically they they started writing it as a thing for for me, writing it as a segment for an anthology film.
Chris
AdamThey were going to do like a horror like that was their sort of next project, they wanted to do like a horror anthology movie.
ChrisOkay.
Adamand when the anthology didn't happen, they decided to take the segment that was house and expand it into the full film.
ChrisOh, yeah, okay.
AdamAnd then, another writer, so Fred Decker did the did the script first off, but it was a straight horror film and then Ethan Wiley came in and rewrote it and that's when it became a comedy.
ChrisOh, okay.
AdamAnd and he and then Ethan Wiley went on to write and direct House 2, the second story.
ChrisYeah, well so so I so I don't think I've seen House 2, so so I started to watch House 3 after seeing this just to remind myself and then I was like, oh no, this is this is serious, you know, in comparison, like there's no no comedy in this at all.
ChrisSo, but yeah, so what is the case with House 2 then and House 4?
AdamI'll tell right, I'm going to start let's do it in order of crap, I would say.
ChrisYeah, go on.
AdamSo House 3 we've dealt with.
AdamFor some reason, I don't know why, it's a film with Lance Henriksen in it, but it's not great.
AdamIt's basically Shocker, the Wes Craven film.
LeeOh, I was going to say.
LeeI've only seen the trailer, but it looks exactly like a rip-off of Shocker.
AdamYeah.
AdamAnd it's basically, yeah, basically, I think it came out the same year as Shocker.
AdamAnd it's yeah, and it's got I can't think of his name, but Leon from Blade Runner.
AdamTurtle, what's a turtle?
ChrisYeah.
AdamAs as the villain.
ChrisAnd Genki.
AdamGink, yeah, that's it, yeah, Genki.
AdamAnd, and it's like a very 90s, you know, it's a serial killer, slash, yeah, with a supernatural element on top.
ChrisYeah.
AdamYeah.
AdamAnd then House 4 is very much a sort of return to the horror comedy thing, you've got and weirdly enough William Catt comes back.
LeeYes.
LeeYes.
LeeOh yeah.
AdamAs as Roger Cobb.
LeeOkay.
AdamSo, so the main character in the first film, he comes back and but he's obviously been so moved by the fact that he's.
Adamchild has been returned to him and it looks like he's going to reconcile with his wife.
AdamThat he's divorced her and met someone else and had a kid with them and you never hear about the other family.
AdamAnd then he's dead within about 15 minutes of the start of the film.
ChrisOkay.
AdamAnd it's the wife and daughter who are being sort of like subjected to the house.
AdamWhich may or not be evil and may or may not be possessed by the ghost of Roger.
AdamBut yeah.
LeeIt's not very clear and it's not very good.
LeeLike it hasn't got the same level of comedy, it's got a few bits in it, but other than that, it's just an absolute snoozefest.
ChrisOkay.
AdamAnd then House 2.
LeeHouse 2.
AdamIs a film that I wish I'd seen when I was a fucking child because.
ChrisYeah, okay.
AdamMan that is good.
AdamBut it is off its fucking face.
AdamIt is.
AdamYeah.
AdamHouse House is weird.
AdamHouse 2 is fucking bizarre.
ChrisOkay.
LeeIf you liked House, Chris, you definitely need to see House 2.
LeeI.
LeeI think Bill is one of my favorite characters in a movie ever, just because he's just mental.
Leeplayed by John Ratzenberger again from Cheers.
AdamYes, so again, it's like the two is the partnership from Cheers of like Norman Cliff.
AdamSo Cliff's in the second one as an electrician and adventurer.
LeeYeah.
Adamand.
LeeI just love the lot when he's looking at the electricity and he goes, oh, yeah, no, I yeah.
LeeYou've you've got a dimensional issue.
AdamYeah.
AdamYou know what you're dealing with there is you got a portal into another dimension.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd it's just.
AdamAnd but and you've got crystal skulls, you've got an undead, undead distant grandfather, cowboy zombie who lives in the basement.
AdamThere's a pet baby pterodactyl, there's a caterpillar dog puppy thing that comes from the prehistoric past.
AdamAnd it's.
AdamYeah.
AdamIt's just utterly fucking mad and lovely.
ChrisOkay.
AdamJust lovely.
LeeIt's so much fun.
LeeI had insomnia last night, so I was going to watch it this evening but I couldn't sleep.
LeeSo I sat up until about quarter past two watching it this morning and just had a lovely time.
LeeI was like, oh, I'm normally.
ChrisThat sounds like the right kind of time to yeah, to watch it.
LeeYeah, it's perfect, yeah.
LeeI am fighting off a cold at the moment as you can probably hear in my voice.
LeeSo.
ChrisThat adds another layer.
LeeCouple of brandies and set up and watch that, I had a fantastic time.
AdamSo I mean, talking of its time, the director Steve Miner.
AdamAlso did quite a few of the Friday the 13ths, he did part two, part three, did Warlock, Lake Placid, Halloween H2O, the remake of Day of the Dead.
Adam
AdamBut I think two films that sort of again, summing up the 80s and the 90s in this sort of way, is he did a film called My Father the Hero, in which a girl who fancies someone persuades her dad to pretend to be her boyfriend while they're on holiday, the boyfriend is played by Gerard Depardieu.
AdamAnd yeah, so already just a weird.
Adambut he's but he also directed Soul Man, which is about a white kid blacking up to get free college scholarship.
ChrisOkay.
AdamAnd yeah.
AdamAnd again, that's a comedy.
AdamBut I don't think they're really sort of yeah.
AdamI think it just highlights how a lot of opinions may have changed.
AdamBut
AdamYeah, so like I said, there'd been a lot of it's the guys who had to do with like Friday the 13th and various little bits and pieces on there.
AdamBut also this has got Kane Hodder doing the stunts in this, who obviously went on to be Jason.
Adamover, I think it's I think it's over five films, I think he stopped when they did Freddy versus Jason, he's not in he's not Jason from then on, I think.
LeeIt's funny, I didn't see him in the first film, but I did see him in the second.
LeeBecause he gets thrown over the bannister by the guy who comes from yeah, like a barbarian who comes through one of the portals, isn't there?
AdamYeah.
LeeYeah, from prehistoric times, yeah, and just picks him up and lobs him over a balcony, but.
AdamYeah.
AdamHe's also he's also the pizza monster in number four.
LeeOh, Kane Hodder?
AdamYeah.
LeeOh.
AdamSo, but yeah.
AdamAnd I I had to I had to drop the quote down.
AdamJust because it really amused me.
AdamWhen he was asked why he wasn't playing Jason in in Freddy versus Jason, he said, I guess they just wanted Jason to look like a skinny little bitch this time.
LeeYeah.
LeeI love Kane Hodder.
Adam
LeeI've seen him in something recently and I thought, oh, what was I it was something weird.
LeeI think it was like urban urban legends or something.
AdamOh right, okay.
LeeAnd he's in the beginning, but literally he's just kind of pushing a mop.
LeeHe might get pushed over, but yeah, I was just like, sure that's Kane Hodder.
LeeBut yeah.
LeeSo he does turn up quite often and a lot of the time he isn't credited either.
LeeSo.
AdamNo, no.
LeeIf you don't recognize his face, you wouldn't know.
AdamYeah.
AdamAnd and he's obviously like just done stunts on and acting in so many like genre films and stuff like that.
AdamAlso juggler, I believe.
AdamSo.
LeeIt doesn't surprise me.
AdamThat's why he did the Hatchet films, obviously.
LeeYeah.
AdamShould have should have put two and two together there.
AdamI I love.
AdamThat the opening in the bookshop as well, I think that's a brilliant collection of fans of a of a writer. You got, you know, like a couple of goths, a lot of nerds, a few hysterics, most of them without any social skills.
AdamIt just seemed like the right sort of collection.
AdamRather than just, you know.
AdamIt's the same.
AdamBecause you you don't find that it's the same people at something like that, you know, there's you know, there's no identic group of people.
AdamIt's you know, various ages, various.
AdamI don't know, levels of bloody mentalness.
LeeYeah.
LeeYeah, like a man who's been to a lot of book signings.
AdamYeah, yeah, that's true.
AdamBut I think that.
AdamBecause the the lady who's like who's shouting to him about his wife, that's Mindy Sterling, she's Frau Farbissina in the Austin Powers films.
Lee
AdamAnd in terms of other did you spot that the real estate agent is the owner of the hotel manager from Ghostbusters?
LeeNo, I didn't.
AdamYou know, you know, like the initial one where they go and catch Slimer.
LeeYeah.
AdamYeah, it's the same guy.
LeeYeah.
AdamThe guy who fires the harpoon accidentally fires the harpoon at him.
LeeOh.
LeeThe only other person I recognized obviously was Stephen Williams, who is, like, talk about typecasting, I don't think I've ever seen him in anything when he wasn't a policeman.
AdamI tell you what.
AdamI hadn't realized though, because, obviously we have to mention what a fucking performance in The Blues Brothers.
LeeYeah.
AdamHe, you know, he is you know, I mean that is just every fucking line is just done with perfection in that film.
AdamBut I I hadn't realized he's he's he was Mr. X in the X-Files, you know, the guy who replaced Deep Throat after he gets bumped off in series one or whatever like that.
LeeVaguely.
AdamYeah.
AdamI hadn't realized I've never I've never made the connection, but then I'm I haven't really watched much beyond series 3 of the X-Files.
AdamSo.
LeeI always remember him as he was in the the original 21 Jump Street, he was the Depth's boss in that.
Leeagain.
Leeundercover cop.
LeeSo yeah.
AdamYeah.
LeeIt was.
AdamWell, that's I suppose X-Files it would have been FBI so again, it's yeah, it's pretty much it's pretty much law enforcement.
AdamMaybe he's got his own badge.
LeeYeah.
LeeI think he's just got that air about him.
LeeHasn't he, he's just like and he just does always do so well.
LeeSo yeah, if you need a cop to come in and just do a few lines, he's going to be your go-to every time, isn't he, really?
AdamDefinitely, yeah.
AdamBut yeah.
AdamI I mean I'm definitely going to say that it's the the funniest film that also features child abduction and Vietnam PTSD.
LeeYeah.
ChrisI think it could well win.
AdamAnd.
AdamAnd just to just to annoy all the right people, I will declare now, this is my favourite Vietnam movie.
LeeYeah.
AdamYou know, a long time ago it was Apocalypse Now, but I don't need to look cool at parties anymore.
LeeYeah.
AdamSo, yeah, it's House, it's got to be.
LeeExcellent.
LeeOh, really?
LeeIt was one of those when I watched the second one last night, I was like, I love House and we definitely needed to show it to Chris, but having watched House 2, I was like, we could have just jumped straight to this and I just it's that just that mental.
LeeLike Charlie is just off his chuff.
LeeAnd it's one of those character characters again.
LeeExcuse me.
LeeI still find off this cop.
LeeWho I spent the whole film trying to remember what I knew him from and it was too late at night to turn my phone back on.
LeeSorry, but of course he played the familiar in Fright Night.
AdamWhich goes to prove, I mean, sorry Chris, we're talking about the film you haven't watched.
AdamBut he goes to prove what a terrific actor that guy is because he is nothing but.
Adamsort of odiously sinister in in Fright Night.
Chris
AdamAnd then in that he is.
AdamHe's the he's the comic relief.
AdamHe you know.
LeeHe's the comic animal.
AdamYeah, in what's already a comedy film.
ChrisBut do you think if we'd gone straight to House 2, it would have been too much of a jump?
AdamI'm not sure, to be honest.
AdamBecause I think the good thing I would say is that House as a film series has no connections.
AdamEven the fact that Roger is in the first and the fourth film, you would not need to see the first one to even.
AdamIn fact, seeing the first one confuses you more about House 4.
AdamBecause you're like, well, didn't he have a son and that's not his wife.
AdamAnd oh, oh and he's dead.
AdamOkay, right, so.
AdamYeah.
AdamI don't I think I think this is the
AdamI think it was also an unfortunate thing that.
AdamIt was not of its time sounds wrong because of its times used more as a sort of like an excusing term.
ChrisYeah, yeah.
AdamWhereas I think that this is just such an example of the 80s that when they started doing the movies further into the 90s.
AdamBecause I think House I think House 3's like 90 or something like that and then House 4's like 92 or something like that.
AdamBut yeah, I think by then it it there just wasn't that same.
ChrisThey'd lost something.
AdamYeah.
AdamSomething just wasn't right.
AdamAnd I mean.
AdamMaybe maybe we'll curb our spoilers there and do House 2 at some point.
AdamBecause there's no way I'm never fucking re-watching that again.
LeeYeah.
AdamI.
AdamI am seriously at the point where I'm like, I kind of want to show it to Ted, he likes Ghostbusters and I don't think there's anything better or, you know, I don't think there's anything scarier in House 2 than anything that takes place in Ghostbusters.
AdamAnd more to the point, God, it's just such a kid friendly in it's a it's a family movie, it's like it's like an action adventure film with portals into hellish dimensions via.
LeeIt is, and it's got all the sort of Ray Harryhausen style stop motion animation stuff in it, it's just, it's such a lovely film.
LeeBut you're right Adam, there's apart from possibly the cowboy ghost who comes after him at the end.
LeeIt's funny, I've got a mental picture of that, my dad clearly watched that when I was too young to see it, and it was one of those I'd gone down for a drink and he was like, right, go through the living room, don't look at the TV, don't look at the TV, and I took a quick glance, yeah, and it was the image of that cowboy standing at the end, and that's stuck with me ever since.
LeeLike not in a bad way.
LeeBut I was always like, God, I love that.
LeeAnd I only watched this film for the first time, possibly three years ago.
Leeyeah.
LeeAnd recognized.
LeeI was like, oh my God, that's what that's from, I remember it so vividly.
Leebut yeah, this film is definitely one, definitely one I'll be going back to.
LeeI think I'll go back to two more than one.
AdamI think so now now that I've watched them, as I say, I mean one.
AdamI just it's just brilliant entertainment.
AdamYou know, it's that is that's an example of party horror.
LeeOh yeah, yeah.
AdamYou know.
AdamBut but in the serious way where it's party horror where even if you watch it on your own, you're having a party.
ChrisYeah.
LeeJust classic.
Lee
LeeYeah, it's yeah, so much fun.
LeeAnd then the fourth one was awful.
AdamYeah, yeah.
AdamIt's just I think but like I said to Chris, I mean it's.
AdamIt's rare that you can get a franchise where you can.
AdamJust walk into any of them and you don't you don't need any, you literally don't need to have seen any of them for them to work.
LeeYeah.
AdamBecause apparently, I mean House 3 was wasn't even marketed in America as a House film.
AdamIt was only abroad that it got.
ChrisOh actually connected.
AdamYeah.
AdamConnected.
AdamIt was because I think it was developed, it was developed as House 3 and then they were like, well, this is so different.
AdamWe'll just we'll just release it as I think it's called just a horror show, but everywhere abroad is House 3 the horror show.
LeeYeah, exactly.
LeeCuz it doesn't even look like it's linked to a house.
AdamIt's it's not really.
ChrisYeah, I was like.
ChrisI didn't get that far I didn't get that far through it, but yeah, I was thinking like they didn't seem to be.
LeeThat was kind of the funny thing about the fourth one is the fact that so he inherited a house in the first one that was haunted.
LeeAnd then in the fourth one he inherits a house, which is also potentially haunted.
LeeLike oh.
LeeHe's inherited two beautiful houses and they're both fucked him over.
LeeAnd the the funny thing is the story of his brother.
LeeThe thing I kept coming back to watching it.
LeeHis brother is desperate to get the house off of him because he wants to build on the land.
LeeIt is a single house in the middle of a fucking dust bowl.
LeeIt's like there's nothing for five miles in any direction, just build just up the road.
LeeLike why are you so intent on get.
AdamBuild on the opposite side of the lake.
AdamMind you, is it is it because you can't have people noticing that you're using, I mean this is this is how complicated it gets Chris.
AdamBecause his brother wants it because he's got mob connections and they're gonna pump nuclear waste into like toxic waste into the lake as a disposal thing.
AdamAgain, pointing out that this was made in the 90s, not the 80s.
AdamA more care for a more carefree age.
LeeYeah.
AdamWhereas the two the two 90s entries are very much like, right, so what have we got here?
AdamOh, we've got we've got a toxic waste conspiracy.
AdamAnd what else have we got, we've got a serial murderers back from the dead.
LeeWe.
LeeYeah, this series goes so off the rails so fast.
Leeyeah, it kind of I mean even the name house, as we said, by the third one they're just given up on that idea.
LeeReally and there's no as he say, it is nice that you can come into any movie and watch them standalone.
LeeBut they're so tonally different, it's crazy.
AdamI mean, they're practically they're practically an they're practically an anthology series.
LeeYeah.
AdamYou know like how Halloween was like where they tried to do it with Halloween 3.
AdamWhere they're just like, well, we'll just call a movie Halloween.
AdamAnd.
AdamBut yeah.
AdamI.
AdamBut it's yeah, it's just a shame that it does off after the first two.
AdamBecause the the first one just is because the second one as I say, it's kind of family horror almost.
LeeYeah.
AdamBecause it's got it's got a swashbuckling adventure vibe to it.
AdamAnd.
AdamCowboys and dinosaurs and comedy pterodactyls.
AdamYou know, so it's.
LeeYeah.
LeeOh, just crazy.
LeeBut yeah, such a fun film.
LeeI'm so glad you suggested this Adam because as I say, I've not I've only seen the original a few times.
LeeI've not watched it in a while.
Leeyeah, and it gave me an excuse to finally rewatch the second one again because it was only my second viewing of it.
LeeAnd I I was a little bit worried because I had such fun memories of it and I was like, well, I'll watch it the second time because I know what's coming.
Leeand I going to be disappointed.
LeeAnd I wasn't, I I just sat there thinking, you're an idiot because you watched this three years ago and you haven't watched it in between then and now, what have you been doing with your life really?
LeeSo.
Leeso on that note, for our next episode, ladies and gentlemen, we will be doing least Haunted part 2.
Leewhich was going to be us discussing ghost stories that listeners have sent in after lots of people said, oh, we've had interesting things happen to us.
LeeHowever, we have had next to no feedback from that.
Leeso.
LeeWe will well basically I'm just happy, we've had a couple of interesting stories and I will be happy to just slag off the most haunted most haunted type TV shows for another half hour.
LeeSo.
LeeWe definitely won't be short of content.
LeeOh and I I and I haven't shared my other two strange stories with you.
LeeWhich I will be looking forward to doing.
AdamAnd I I shall attempt to have something happen to me in between now and that recording.
AdamSo I can bait it.
Adamthough although warning if it's things like, do you know what, there was a hole in my pocket and by thunder a pound coin disappeared.
AdamDon't know where.
LeeOh.
LeeI've seen I was going to say, I've seen less spooky things than that on the most haunted type shows that I foist myself to watch just as a.
LeeIt's one of those things.
LeeIt's like therapy, it's like I I managed to spend most of my days at work.
LeeNot losing my rag with people and staying quite calm, so it's nice in a controlled environment.
LeeWhich is normally at 11 o'clock at night on my own in front of the TV when I just let it all hang out and scream and shout and swear.
LeeI apologize if I have coughed or sneezed or made a horrible sniffing noise or anything through this.
LeeI do apologize.
LeeI tried very hard not to.
LeeBut I am.
ChrisYou did well to make it tonight.
LeeI'm text.
AdamAnd I I don't apologize for anything that might have done.
LeeI just don't I can't say I can't do it because I've got a bit of a sniffly cold.
LeeLike what a.
LeeBut then equally, I was like nobody wants to hear me, you know, running out of breath while sitting down talking for 40 minutes, but it's been pretty close to it at times, but.
AdamI don't know, you might not rate how sexy that could sound.
LeeYeah.
AdamIt might be some people.
AdamThat's their favorite episode.
LeeThey well.
LeeYou know what, stranger things have happened.
AdamYes.
LeeAnyway, so.
LeeThanks ever so much for listening everybody, go and check out House.
LeeGo and check out House 2.
AdamDon't bother with 2 with 3 and 4.
LeeYeah, no, definitely skip that.
ChrisJust just watch two two more times.
LeeIn fact, I've got to admit, I was watching four this afternoon, about an hour before we started recording.
LeeSo I wasn't sure on time, I paused it 10 minutes from the end and went, you know what, I don't fucking need to know.
ChrisYou don't care.
LeeI I've sat through an hour and 20 minutes and couldn't give a shit to this point, I don't think anything's going to change.
LeeThanks ever so much for listening, everybody.
LeeGood night.
ChrisGood night.
AdamGood night.
