The Haunting
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With housing a seeming perennial nightmare, we’re going to look at some nightmare houses, kicking off with an absolute, stone cold classic - Robert Wise’s “The Haunting” (that’s the 1963 one, not the abomination that is the 1999 version with Qui-Gon Jinn). Adapted from the novel by Shirley Jackson “The Haunting of Hill House” (again, not to be confused with the TV series that bears its name, which, whilst loved by many, can, frankly, suck a fat one compared to the book, or the 1963 film). It’s a film in which we discover that Dr Jacoby is the bastard child of Dean Stockwell and Andy Serkis; that Miss Moneypenny didn’t need to hook up with James Bond when she had the dashing moustache of Dr Markway to come home to; and that the guy who brought us “The Sound of Music” can also scare the living shit out of you, simply by banging on a door. A cinematic masterpiece based on a literary masterpiece, “The Haunting” is still an effectively tense and scary film 60 years after its release, and remains an excellent lesson to filmmakers of how to successfully adapt a book to screen. Watch (or re-watch) to avoid spoilers and join us.
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Famous lines
- "You may not believe in ghosts, but you cannot deny terror."
- "Can't you feel it? It's alive... watching." — Eleanor Lance
- "It was an evil house from the beginning - a house that was born bad." — Dr. John Markway
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Lee Evening everybody, Lee here. regular listeners will know that we recently did a supernatural stories episode, or not, depending on your beliefs.
Lee but it seems to have gone down quite well and we've spoken to a few people who said they've got interesting stories of their own. So, as we tempted the idea at the end of our last episode, we're going to do a follow-up at some point.
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Lee or otherwise, you can type them out and send them to us and we will read them out on the show. if you'd rather not use your name, we will use your first name, otherwise, but if you'd rather go under an alias, include that in the message and we'll be sure to use that.
Lee Thanks very much, and enjoy the show.
Lee Good evening and welcome to Horror. I'm Lee.
Chris I'm Chris.
Adam I am Adam.
Lee And we are here this evening full of spoilers and swearing to cover the amazing film, spoiler alert, 1963's The Haunting.
Lee we've we've.
Adam Not to be confused with 1999's The Haunting.
Chris No. Lucky you mentioned that.
Lee God, yes.
Chris Gash.
Lee I did, I was discussing earlier today actually with Dani what we were covering this evening and I said we were covering the.
Adam She said.
Lee He said, hope you're gonna bring up that from 1999 at some point.
Lee I said, 'Oh, don't worry.
Lee It'll it'll come up, it'll we're covering it at some point.
Lee yes, so we are here for this movie, it's it's it's a film, I feel we've talked about a lot in the last 170 episodes, because it's such a solid classic.
Lee and thank you very much to Claire actually for bringing us back on track and reminding us that we are a horror podcast and we haven't done any truly scary shit in a while. I feel we've definitely rectified that with this movie.
Adam Yeah.
Lee So, Chris, what did you make on your first viewing of The Haunting?
Chris All right, well first I'm gonna say, I don't recommend eating something that may or may not be chalk that's appeared on the wall during the night.
Adam Yeah.
Chris Just, you know.
Adam Cuz they they they never tell you what that is, are they?
Chris No.
Chris So, it is chalk, but it might not be.
Chris So yeah, there there is that.
Chris but yeah, like this is really well shot, I mean the house looks amazing inside and out, the setting's are fantastic.
Lee I want that Jenifer said to me, I'm almost gutted it's not in color because I want to see all that beautiful beauty, but.
Adam You know it's, you know it's over here, don't you?
Lee No.
Adam This, this is something that's sort of is a weird thing. Basically this is a British film.
Chris
Adam so it's an American director, two American actors, everyone else is British and the house is Ettington Park in Warwickshire.
Chris
Adam And it's a hotel, you can go and stay.
Lee You can go, oh I want, I'm going there.
Chris That that that is good to say because I at the year the best haunted house available in the world, and this would classifiers as I think.
Adam Well, apparently, as you'd imagine, it's a hotel that's also a former manor house. They also reckon it is haunted.
Chris Yeah, okay.
Adam They've got they've got a grey lady, they've got a monk, they've got a soldier, they've just got loads of supposed ghosts.
Adam But yeah, so it's.
Chris I'm going to say though, I don't think I will see any of them.
Lee I'm pretty sure.
Chris I'm fairly certain that but.
Chris But it I think it would still be great and and it's funny, I've never really had the thought that I wanted to do something like before, but it's like, no actually, I think that would be good fun.
Adam Cuz this is the weird thing, it's Robert Wise who directed it, who did like the Sound of Music, he did.
Chris All right.
Adam first Star Trek movie, so yeah, Star Trek Motion Picture, Day the Earth Stood Still, West Side Story.
Chris Okay.
Adam The Andromeda Strain which I watched the other night, it's fucking brilliant.
Chris But that that he's definitely skillful.
Chris I mean.
Adam He was.
Chris Really, yeah.
Chris It like some some of the shots.
Adam Yeah, but he's one of those.
Adam Well, he's one of those directors who just seems to have done everything.
Adam You know, usually now it's especially you get people tend to sit in a specific genre or specific whereas yeah, Robert Wise just was a filmmaker.
Chris Genre.
Adam So he wanted to do, and I think this was what he did, he did this after West Side Story.
Adam So it was like, right, I've done a musical, I want to scare the shit out of people, and
Chris I was trying to think what it like kind of reminded me of, I mean, I guess I would say Alfred Hitchcock, I don't know if that's because it's we haven't seen that many black and white, but yeah, it had that kind of a feel.
Chris It, you know, it's like you're watching something, yeah, serious piece of of film.
Adam Well, it's it's it's it's quite nice is that it feels modern because am I gonna have to make allowances for how this is shot?
Adam Because you tend to get stuff like the, like Universal Dracula is very stagey.
Chris
Adam It feels like someone's filming a play.
Chris Okay, yeah, yeah, I think we've said that before.
Chris Yeah, no, it really.
Adam This is mobile, the camera's every fucking where.
Chris Yeah.
Adam And yeah, it really helps.
Lee I love that changing shots as well, so they did obviously the kind of locked camera shots for the, for the dialogue and stuff.
Lee But yeah, whenever the ghostly stuff was happening, it was hands-free camera, you can just say it was all weird angles and weird things it was.
Lee Focusing on and it just looked like it just puts you on edge because it's so weird, it's fantastic.
Adam Well, the set the set was all built so it would have all those weird sort of angles.
Adam And actually the thing Claire watched it with me and the thing she pointed out is how.
Adam Cluttered the sets are.
Chris
Adam In that everyone in it is in that set, there's always stuff in front of them, to the side of them.
Adam It's it's not.
Adam It kind of suits the house.
Adam Because it is an old Victorian house like old knick-knacks and bric-a-brac and stuff like that.
Adam But literally there's barely there's barely a scene where someone is shot without something in the foreground.
Chris Yeah.
Adam So there, you know, it's so oppressive.
Adam But at the same time, it's mostly silent.
Chris
Adam There's very little in the way of music and unless there's actual ghost activity, it's really quiet.
Adam But you've got this really oppressive visual, though you're sort of, you are trapped in there and it makes you uncomfortable and the longer it goes quiet, the more likely you are to be like, is something gonna happen, is something gonna happen, is something.
Lee It's a it's a masterpiece of like I know we're we've said it before, but it is a masterpiece of minimal filmmaking.
Lee I know that was why kind of we wanted to cover it, because it's one of the few films that's like genuinely got a, as you say, like a scary atmosphere and it's genuinely a scary film.
Lee But not apart from the bending door and the writing on the wall, you see absolutely nothing, but it is so good.
Lee It's so well-built with the suspense, it it's.
Lee It's just an absolute masterclass in in a haunted house film.
Lee It's gone.
Chris Building tension.
Chris And it progresses throughout and as Eleanor, you know, starts to change and kind of lose herself.
Chris Like she's falling in love with the house, but also losing her mind and and yeah, as that sort of builds towards the end.
Chris It's yeah, it really builds intensity.
Chris Cuz it's kind of like, it is like a breakdown.
Chris Yeah, yeah, which was interesting that they sort of covered that so well, I wasn't really expecting that so much for the.
Chris Yeah, I mean I know 1963 isn't really that long ago, but.
Adam 60 years.
Chris Yeah, well, yeah.
Adam You know, a 60-year-old film that can still, you know, make you uncomfortable and make you sort of can.
Adam Build tension and be scary.
Chris Yeah. Well, I was wondering whether it was like, was it just psychological that they were thinking it, but then of course there are.
Chris Parts that happen where it's like, no, it is meant to be actual there is something ghostly happening.
Adam Well, apparently apparently when the script writer, what's his name? Robert Gidding, I think.
Adam he was, he basically at one point said, 'Oh, so she's having a breakdown, so the house is the hospital that she's in.
Adam And all the other characters are staff and patients and that was kind of gonna be a reveal that he was going to put in.
Chris
Adam And he spoke to Shirley Jackson, who wrote the book that it's based on, The Haunting of Hill House.
Chris Right.
Adam and she basically said, 'No, it's a really haunted house.'
Chris Oh.
Adam It's not symbolism or anything, it's a haunted house.
Chris So they just went, yeah.
Adam Fair enough.
Adam We'll just, and apparently The Haunting was her title, it was the other title that she had for the book.
Chris
Adam Cuz they were like The Haunting of Hill House, that's a bit too long for a film. Okay, yeah, you know, and so on, so.
Chris Yeah, okay, that's interesting.
Lee I think that's why it draws you in, it is it's like a real haunting in the to the people who are there who are experiencing it.
Lee It's totally real.
Chris Yeah.
Lee But it's but it's very easy to just go, all right, so there was some banging and there was a space where you felt a bit cold, and it's very easy.
Lee Which is, you know, which I think is why it's so compelling because it does show that how if you're in that, if you're in that situation, you could be totally convinced by something.
Lee But when you try and explain it to someone, it doesn't come across.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Which you know, I know we've mentioned in our last Haunting and when we re-re-evaluate that and come back to it again in a couple of weeks, we'll kind of say the same thing.
Lee But and this whole film totally hinges on their react, the actors' reactions to things that we can't see or feel.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah.
Lee But they sell it to such a fantastic degree.
Adam It was.
Adam I mean, the key the key example of that is that one bit where where it's I mean, that that is one of the most compelling bits of film is where they're in the bedroom and there's the banging.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Approaches, comes back and approachess and already, for a start, I am pleading with them not to open the door.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And again, this film is 60 fucking years old and I'm still going, 'No, don't open that, I don't want to know.
Adam I'll die in ignorance, I'm quite happy.
Adam No, cuz usually especially, especially sort of like monster films and things like that, you're like, 'Oh no, show us the fucker!
Chris Yeah, yeah.
Adam I want to see the demon, I want to see the ghost.' In this, I'm like, 'No, I'm perfectly happy to die in ignorance, I don't want to see it, it's fucking terrifying.'
Adam But when they say, 'It's above the door,' and there's nothing there.
Chris No.
Lee No, but it's.
Adam But it's.
Adam Put it there.
Lee But it's the building of the sound and the way the camera zooms in that gives you the impression that there's something there that you you you can't see and but it's still, as you say, fills you with dread and gives you that don't do it, don't open the door.
Lee Like go and hold the door shut if anything.
Lee Like, just.
Lee Yeah, but but it does it with nothing.
Lee And this, this had worked perfectly for an independent, this is what independent filmmakers need to be watching.
Lee Because this can be made, you could make this on your fucking phone and then just edit in a bit of.
Chris Yeah, that's interesting.
Lee Because you don't need anything.
Lee But it wasn't written that way because it was written as a book, so it was never made in a like we can't we can't show it and we can't do the special effects.
Lee It was written purely as a book, but it it's an absolutely perfect example of just build the tension, you don't need anything else apart from the people's reactions to things that.
Chris Yeah.
Adam Having, so I've read The Haunting of Hill House and actually I will pop down to the vault.
Adam At some point and give you a breakdown on Shirley Jackson and the house.
Adam Hello, this is Adam down in the vault and I've got some information for all you lovely people about Shirley Jackson.
Adam An American author who is credited as the pioneer of modern Gothic.
Adam she was unable to satisfactorily complete a biography of herself for her first novel, so her husband wrote one, and this is the original draft, which I think gives you a flavor of Shirley Jackson.
Adam She plays the guitar and sings 500 folk songs, as well as playing the piano and the zither.
Adam She also paints, draws, embroiders, makes things out of seashells, plays chess, and takes care of the house and children, cooking, cleaning, laundry, etc.
Adam She believes no artist was ever ruined by housework, or helped by it either.
Adam She is an authority on witchcraft and magic, has a remarkable private library of works in English on the subject, and is perhaps the only contemporary writer who is a practicing amateur witch.
Adam Specializing in small-scale black magic and fortune-telling with a tarot deck. She is passionately addicted to cats, and at the moment has six, all coal black.
Adam So, yes, very few people who are credited as a, practicing amateur witch in their biography within their, certainly back in, back in those days.
Adam she gained notoriety and acclaim in equal measure for her incredible short story The Lottery, which was first published in The New Yorker in 1948.
Adam On first publication, both Jackson and The New Yorker received over 300 letters, mostly addressed to The Lottery Lady, ranging from the baffled to the abusive, such was the shock that it caused.
Adam The New Yorker also suddenly had a number of subscription cancellations from outraged readers. The same year she published her first novel. She went on to write five more novels, over 200 short stories, two memoirs and four books for children, including an account of the Salem witch trials.
Adam She met her husband, critic Stanley Hyman, while they were both at Syracuse University in New York. Hyman had read a short story Jackson had printed in the university magazine and exclaimed, 'Who is Shirley Jackson? Because I am going to marry her.'
Adam But don't be too fooled by this romantic story. He was also a serial adulterer who forced her into agree to an open marriage and generally seemed like a bit of a prick.
Adam she, they had four children, and if you can find it, there is a lovely segment on the series Clive Barker's A to Z of Horror. S is for Sorceress in episode two, where her four children speak about growing up with her and some of her more witchy practices.
Adam Shirley was the primary breadwinner in the household, although Hyman maintained control of the finances and would portion out her earnings to her as he saw fit.
Adam As well as her writing, she was raising the children and running the household.
Adam Apparently Hyman's modern ideas may have encompassed open marriage, but didn't seem to encompass hands-on parenting or the sharing of household chores.
Adam As I say, a bit of a prick.
Adam The family settled into the small village of North Bennington, Vermont, where Hyman took an instructor's job at Bennington College.
Adam The family were treated with suspicion by the conservative townspeople and Shirley, a perennial outsider, found she was not taken seriously as an author in local academia because she was also a mother and ran a household, but had too much of a career to be part of the 'wives of faculty' group, even though she wouldn't have wanted to join that anyway.
Adam In later years she became dogged by ill health, with her heavy smoking contributing to chronic asthma, as well as fainting, dizziness, and joint pain attributed to arterial sclerosis and heart issues.
Adam She also suffered from anxiety, for which she was prescribed barbiturates, and has also diagnosed with colitis.
Adam Her anxiety began to manifest as agoraphobia, although this began to respond to psychiatric treatment.
Adam Sadly she died in her sleep at home, most likely of cardiac arrest, at the age of 48.
Adam In 2007, the Shirley Jackson Awards were established, which recognize outstanding achievement in suspense, horror, and dark fantasy literature.
Adam Previous winners include Neil Gaiman, Stephen King, Jeff VanderMeer, Priya Sharma, and Rob Shearman.
Adam All of Shirley Jackson's, short stories and novels are definitely worth looking into, she's an incredible writer.
Adam I have also read We Have Always Lived in the Castle, which is just fantastic.
Adam As for The Haunting of Hill House, there are certain changes, in its adaption into The Haunting. mostly this is that the events take place over 11 days rather than the three that we see in the film, so there are certain number of supernatural events that change or are left out of the, of the film, but it does mean that it has a greater impact, although it works so much better in the book to give you that constant build of dread.
Adam there's much more, takes place in the grounds of Hill House, including a brook that, Eleanor and Theo find, which has a lot of ghost activity and, so on and so forth.
Adam The, there are a lot of character names are changed.
Adam one of the main differences is that, Grace Montague, or Grace Markway as she is in the film, that's Dr. Markway's wife, rather than the skeptic that she is in The Haunting, is actually as obsessed with the supernatural as her husband, but goes about her research into it in a less scientific and much more traditional sort of way, automatic writing, that kind of thing.
Adam Anyway, this is, a brief enough moment of me in the vault, and I will now hand back to us in the future.
Adam Good luck with it, gentlemen, love the show.
Adam Bo, there we go. but, this is an absolute, this should be like a fucking case study for filmmakers of how to adapt a book.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Because they both work on equally the same level. There are differences, but it's so right to the feel of the book.
Adam That you get from the book, but it's done as a film. The book works on a literary level, whereas the film works on a cinematic level.
Adam And, you know, they are practically perfect, you know, it's sort of.
Adam But again this is like, this is how you should do it, basically.
Adam In so many ways.
Lee It's funny because I think the perfect companion piece to this is The Legend of Hell House, because there are effectively the same story, instead of people from a medium background it's scientists, but effectively it's exactly the same story.
Chris Yeah, that's the one we watched.
Lee Yes, that, yeah, yeah. And that's the same. The book and the because Adam bought me the book, thank you Adam, which I'd never read. And the book and the film, yeah, are close enough.
Lee They definitely have their variance, like they know what works in one and doesn't work in the other and they kind of.
Lee And and it does exactly the same. It it takes the story and just makes it so perfectly realistic, yeah, and just anything that it knows won't convert from the written page into showing you, it just drops out and swaps for something else.
Lee And and it's it it's absolutely, it's a brilliant piece of screenwriting.
Lee taking a book and saying, right, this won't work, so let's not try and push it or make it hokey, let's just swap it out for something else and work for something that works in this medium but doesn't in that one.
Lee And and I think that's got to be a really difficult thing to do, especially with a book that you love enough to have turned into.
Lee A film to let things go that you really care about, but go, 'No what, it's it's going to screw the movie and it's going to make it hokey and it's not going to work.'
Chris Yeah.
Adam Yeah.
Adam I mean.
Adam So what happened was is Robert Wise was coming off of like I say, coming off of West Side Story, so he's won two Oscars at this point.
Adam And frankly, the fact that he doesn't get an Oscar for this is a stain on humanity.
Lee Yeah.
Adam But, it's technically a war crime as far as I'm concerned.
Adam But, and then MGM, he had like one, one movie left with them.
Adam And he said, 'Well, I want to do this adaption of The Haunting of Hill House.'
Adam And they offered him like a million to do it.
Adam And then he found out that if he went to MGM England, because they had like a subsidiary over here.
Adam They offered him slightly more money.
Adam And there's a thing and at the time there was a thing called the Eady Levy, which is, basically it was like a box office tax.
Adam That went back into British film.
Adam It was to try and keep British filmmaking going.
Adam And so if you filmed it using, if you basically you qualified as a British film as long as you filmed it over here and there were only two.
Adam I think it's like two or three non-UK resident wages going out in it.
Chris Yeah, okay.
Adam So, so basically, yeah, so they got a bit of extra money to do it over here, but that's why it's packed full of British actors.
Adam it's only, it's only Julie Harris who plays Eleanor and Russ Tamblyn who plays Luke, who are American.
Adam by the way, you know, you do know that's Dr. Jacoby, don't you?
Lee What?
Adam Luke in this, that's Russ Tamblyn, that's Dr. Jacoby from Twin Peaks.
Lee Fuck off.
Adam Yeah, you just thought, you just thought that Dean Stockwell had fucked Andy Serkis and produced this boy.
Adam But no, that is Dr. Jacoby from fucking Twin Peaks.
Lee I didn't spot that, but I did spot that, John, John Markway.
Lee I'd be very surprised if that's not, Pinball Bobby's dad.
Lee Because he looks exactly like Pinball Bobby the whole way through this movie.
Lee I thought that was.
Adam Well, the only thing that may remove that is that actor is called Richard Johnson. I literally watched an episode of Thriller last night with him in it.
Lee Oh no, you didn't.
Adam And he is, and he is still just so suave.
Adam And, but he is, and this is a word you don't often hear with a man born in Upminster.
Lee Upminster?
Adam So yeah, he's Upminster born and bred is Richard Johnson, but also he's the dad in The Monster Club, you know, the the bit with, oh fuck, Donald Pleasence, where they're the vampire hunters.
Lee Yeah, yeah.
Adam Yeah, he's the dad. You know the dad who's the, spoiler alert, the dad who's a vampire.
Adam That's him.
Adam he's also in, Zombie Flesheaters, he's in loads of like really good horror films.
Lee That's fucking blown my mind. I did not realize that it was him at all.
Adam Yeah, but like I say, yeah.
Adam So it's only Russ Tamblyn and like so it's only Luke and Eleanor who, so Claire Bloom's English.
Adam and.
Adam Rosalie Crutchley who plays the housekeeper, she's like, she's, I think she only died fairly recently.
Adam She's been in stuff right up until like up until now.
Adam But like loads of British telly and stuff like that.
Adam And the groundskeeper, who we only ever seem to see, Valentine Dyall not doing his real voice.
Lee Valentine Dyall?
Adam Yeah, Valentine Dyall was the the the you know the the groundskeeper when they get there, but we only ever see Valentine Dyall doing an American accent.
Adam Because the only other time he's appeared on the podcast was when we did City of the Dead.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Horror Hotel.
Lee Oh my God.
Lee Yeah.
Lee Holy.
Lee Shit.
Lee Yeah, it is.
Adam So, so yeah, pretty much so technically, The Haunting is a British film.
Chris
Adam He's an American director, but it's all English, he's a pretty much English, pretty much English cast, pretty much English crew, filmed all over here.
Adam I mean, the bit where she's coming out of the parking garage, that's near the Barbican.
Lee Yeah.
Adam So it's really weird that you've got London doubling up for like Boston.
Chris Yeah.
Lee But it's what they do now with Canada because they give so as you say, the same thing, so many tax breaks, everything is Canadian made and shot in Canada.
Lee But yeah, funded by Hollywood, but it's all fucking shot in Canada.
Adam Yeah.
Adam But it's, not only that, but also I just love the, because I wonder how that would be done nowadays.
Adam In so much as would Luke actually be hopeful that it's going to be haunted.
Chris Well, yeah, cuz that would probably.
Adam The amount of money you get from having the first documented, scientifically proven haunting.
Chris Yeah.
Adam But, you know, back in those days it's probably a lot easier to pass it on.
Lee Yeah.
Adam I mean, let's face it, he wasn't going to go and live there or anything else like that.
Adam This is clearly like how how quickly can I punt this fucking useless lump of real estate out as fast as I can and get leathered.
Lee I did love that line in it actually, yeah, where it all starts kicking off and he turns around to Markway and says, 'You want to buy this house? You can have this, you can have it cheap.'
Chris Yeah.
Adam Exactly.
Adam The other thing that with it as well is that obviously you've got the character of Theo who is clearly a lesbian, which was quite a unusual thing for for the time certainly for the time.
Adam But also the fact that that's it's not it's not a key part of the character, it doesn't sort of, but it is, if you see what I mean.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And but it's done with a great deal of awareness, so the audience would be able to pick up on it without having to make it plain.
Adam So.
Chris So obviously, yeah.
Adam Probably a number of people who saw it at the time who never picked up on it.
Adam Yeah.
Adam But apparently there that was the one deleted scene I heard about is that they, you see her having an argument with her girlfriend, like basically splitting up because she mentions that she's just left someone, I think at one point.
Adam and.
Adam But again, yeah, that was like Robert Wise was like, well, we'll cut it out because it's everything else in this is quite subtle, so let's leave that to subtlety.
Chris Yeah.
Adam But I think it also works so well.
Adam That you just then you keep Eleanor as your focus.
Adam Cuz I don't think anything occurs.
Adam Pretty much without Eleanor being there.
Lee No.
Adam Other characters go off and do stuff, but Eleanor is always the focal point, yeah.
Chris The focal point, yeah.
Lee Yeah.
Lee And that's another thing that was terribly in your face and all about the the the 91 remake.
Lee Yeah, is that literally Eleanor comes in and meets Catherine Zeta Jones who plays the Theo character. Yeah, and one of the first things she said is, 'Oh, my boyfriend says this, but my girlfriend says that.'
Lee Like they just make it everything is so like dumbed down and just overplayed and just, yeah, it was really fucking difficult to.
Adam Do you feel it's like that quote from the second series of Sean Show where it's like we want thick people to get it this time.
Lee Yeah.
Adam So you know, The Haunting's good, but there's far too much subtlety for people, you know.
Adam And then and then of course they did The Haunting of Hill House the TV series which is pretty much nothing to do with the book, but I think that that was a, oh it's a franchiseable name, so we'll use it.
Adam Because it's an easier sell than it is, but again, I don't want that to, I don't want either of those to supersede.
Lee No.
Adam The Haunting from 1963, because I think it's it's very, it's still so fucking good and also still functions as a horror movie.
Adam We watch a lot of stuff, you know, I love Hammer, but I acknowledge that Hammer is not scary for a modern audience or anything like that, you know.
Adam I mean, funnily enough, I was actually thinking the other day, I probably shot Ted Dracula, you know, because it's got all the bits of Dracula that he liked.
Adam Without getting too sort of scary or whatever like that, whereas whereas this, this is still genuinely worrisome.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And that's.
Lee Yeah.
Lee Yeah.
Lee 100%.
Lee It's.
Lee Yeah.
Lee also, obviously, Adam, you mentioned before, Shirley Jackson's, The Lottery.
Lee So you sent us the the short film of that.
Lee Chris.
Lee What did you make of that? I think you quite liked it, didn't you?
Chris Yeah.
Chris So, you know, I didn't know anything about it aside from it's called The Lottery, and you're watching it.
Chris It's like, okay, what's going on here? It's just a little town.
Chris They're collecting stones, a bit weird, all right, what's going to happen? And then, yeah, they all congregate and then they're doing a lottery.
Chris Okay, and you kind of like, well, something bad is going to happen, and yeah, I did think the stones are probably going to be involved, but it, you know, it's sort of playing out.
Chris And and then, the old guy, he's complaining about all these, you know, new young ideas, like ruining everything.
Chris It's like, okay, this is, he's getting kind of interesting, and then of course, yeah, it it turns at the end, and you're like, yeah, it's completely, you know, it's showing something about how insane some of how rituals and traditions have been.
Chris And when it's put in that context, it's like so obviously, well, that would be horrific if if that was done, and yet we are still doing some things that are, you know, probably should be changed.
Chris But once they become ingrained.
Lee Yeah.
Chris In the psyche of the group, it's like, well, if one person did that to someone, they'd be awful, lock them up, straight away, hate them, you know.
Chris But if the group do it, the majority, and they're all in on it, it's like, well, okay, that's what we do.
Chris So don't don't try and turn away from this.
Adam It's it's also the sort of banality of it that it feels like it's like a fucking car boot sale.
Chris Yeah, it's a matter of fact. They're just going through these motions.
Adam A swap me if I knew what one of those was, I don't know.
Lee I don't know.
Lee I've got to say, I I made some notes and yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town. Like and that was, it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you, and then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee I'd never watched.
Chris Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there they mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just this is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper.
Lee but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched. No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it.
Lee They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town, like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys.
Lee Because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you and then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
Lee No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
Lee Like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
Lee And then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
Chris Yeah, I can definitely see.
Lee Watching it again.
Lee No.
Chris I was like.
Adam I can.
Lee No, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
Lee They mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
Lee This is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
