The Haunting
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With housing a seeming perennial nightmare, we’re going to look at some nightmare houses, kicking off with an absolute, stone cold classic - Robert Wise’s “The Haunting” (that’s the 1963 one, not the abomination that is the 1999 version with Qui-Gon Jinn). Adapted from the novel by Shirley Jackson “The Haunting of Hill House” (again, not to be confused with the TV series that bears its name, which, whilst loved by many, can, frankly, suck a fat one compared to the book, or the 1963 film). It’s a film in which we discover that Dr Jacoby is the bastard child of Dean Stockwell and Andy Serkis; that Miss Moneypenny didn’t need to hook up with James Bond when she had the dashing moustache of Dr Markway to come home to; and that the guy who brought us “The Sound of Music” can also scare the living shit out of you, simply by banging on a door. A cinematic masterpiece based on a literary masterpiece, “The Haunting” is still an effectively tense and scary film 60 years after its release, and remains an excellent lesson to filmmakers of how to successfully adapt a book to screen. Watch (or re-watch) to avoid spoilers and join us.
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Famous lines
- "You may not believe in ghosts, but you cannot deny terror."
- "Can't you feel it? It's alive... watching."— Eleanor Lance
- "It was an evil house from the beginning - a house that was born bad."— Dr. John Markway
Quotes verified against Wikiquote.
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LeeEvening everybody, Lee here. regular listeners will know that we recently did a supernatural stories episode, or not, depending on your beliefs.
Leebut it seems to have gone down quite well and we've spoken to a few people who said they've got interesting stories of their own. So, as we tempted the idea at the end of our last episode, we're going to do a follow-up at some point.
LeeSo if any of you have stories of your own that you think would be interesting that you wouldn't mind us sharing with the listeners, feel free to either record them and email them over to us at info@welcometohorror.com.
Leeor otherwise, you can type them out and send them to us and we will read them out on the show. if you'd rather not use your name, we will use your first name, otherwise, but if you'd rather go under an alias, include that in the message and we'll be sure to use that.
LeeThanks very much, and enjoy the show.
LeeGood evening and welcome to Horror. I'm Lee.
ChrisI'm Chris.
AdamI am Adam.
LeeAnd we are here this evening full of spoilers and swearing to cover the amazing film, spoiler alert, 1963's The Haunting.
Leewe've we've.
AdamNot to be confused with 1999's The Haunting.
ChrisNo. Lucky you mentioned that.
LeeGod, yes.
ChrisGash.
LeeI did, I was discussing earlier today actually with Dani what we were covering this evening and I said we were covering the.
AdamShe said.
LeeHe said, hope you're gonna bring up that from 1999 at some point.
LeeI said, 'Oh, don't worry.
LeeIt'll it'll come up, it'll we're covering it at some point.
Leeyes, so we are here for this movie, it's it's it's a film, I feel we've talked about a lot in the last 170 episodes, because it's such a solid classic.
Leeand thank you very much to Claire actually for bringing us back on track and reminding us that we are a horror podcast and we haven't done any truly scary shit in a while. I feel we've definitely rectified that with this movie.
AdamYeah.
LeeSo, Chris, what did you make on your first viewing of The Haunting?
ChrisAll right, well first I'm gonna say, I don't recommend eating something that may or may not be chalk that's appeared on the wall during the night.
AdamYeah.
ChrisJust, you know.
AdamCuz they they they never tell you what that is, are they?
ChrisNo.
ChrisSo, it is chalk, but it might not be.
ChrisSo yeah, there there is that.
Chrisbut yeah, like this is really well shot, I mean the house looks amazing inside and out, the setting's are fantastic.
LeeI want that Jenifer said to me, I'm almost gutted it's not in color because I want to see all that beautiful beauty, but.
AdamYou know it's, you know it's over here, don't you?
LeeNo.
AdamThis, this is something that's sort of is a weird thing. Basically this is a British film.
Chris
Adamso it's an American director, two American actors, everyone else is British and the house is Ettington Park in Warwickshire.
Chris
AdamAnd it's a hotel, you can go and stay.
LeeYou can go, oh I want, I'm going there.
ChrisThat that that is good to say because I at the year the best haunted house available in the world, and this would classifiers as I think.
AdamWell, apparently, as you'd imagine, it's a hotel that's also a former manor house. They also reckon it is haunted.
ChrisYeah, okay.
AdamThey've got they've got a grey lady, they've got a monk, they've got a soldier, they've just got loads of supposed ghosts.
AdamBut yeah, so it's.
ChrisI'm going to say though, I don't think I will see any of them.
LeeI'm pretty sure.
ChrisI'm fairly certain that but.
ChrisBut it I think it would still be great and and it's funny, I've never really had the thought that I wanted to do something like before, but it's like, no actually, I think that would be good fun.
AdamCuz this is the weird thing, it's Robert Wise who directed it, who did like the Sound of Music, he did.
ChrisAll right.
Adamfirst Star Trek movie, so yeah, Star Trek Motion Picture, Day the Earth Stood Still, West Side Story.
ChrisOkay.
AdamThe Andromeda Strain which I watched the other night, it's fucking brilliant.
ChrisBut that that he's definitely skillful.
ChrisI mean.
AdamHe was.
ChrisReally, yeah.
ChrisIt like some some of the shots.
AdamYeah, but he's one of those.
AdamWell, he's one of those directors who just seems to have done everything.
AdamYou know, usually now it's especially you get people tend to sit in a specific genre or specific whereas yeah, Robert Wise just was a filmmaker.
ChrisGenre.
AdamSo he wanted to do, and I think this was what he did, he did this after West Side Story.
AdamSo it was like, right, I've done a musical, I want to scare the shit out of people, and
ChrisI was trying to think what it like kind of reminded me of, I mean, I guess I would say Alfred Hitchcock, I don't know if that's because it's we haven't seen that many black and white, but yeah, it had that kind of a feel.
ChrisIt, you know, it's like you're watching something, yeah, serious piece of of film.
AdamWell, it's it's it's it's quite nice is that it feels modern because am I gonna have to make allowances for how this is shot?
AdamBecause you tend to get stuff like the, like Universal Dracula is very stagey.
Chris
AdamIt feels like someone's filming a play.
ChrisOkay, yeah, yeah, I think we've said that before.
ChrisYeah, no, it really.
AdamThis is mobile, the camera's every fucking where.
ChrisYeah.
AdamAnd yeah, it really helps.
LeeI love that changing shots as well, so they did obviously the kind of locked camera shots for the, for the dialogue and stuff.
LeeBut yeah, whenever the ghostly stuff was happening, it was hands-free camera, you can just say it was all weird angles and weird things it was.
LeeFocusing on and it just looked like it just puts you on edge because it's so weird, it's fantastic.
AdamWell, the set the set was all built so it would have all those weird sort of angles.
AdamAnd actually the thing Claire watched it with me and the thing she pointed out is how.
AdamCluttered the sets are.
Chris
AdamIn that everyone in it is in that set, there's always stuff in front of them, to the side of them.
AdamIt's it's not.
AdamIt kind of suits the house.
AdamBecause it is an old Victorian house like old knick-knacks and bric-a-brac and stuff like that.
AdamBut literally there's barely there's barely a scene where someone is shot without something in the foreground.
ChrisYeah.
AdamSo there, you know, it's so oppressive.
AdamBut at the same time, it's mostly silent.
Chris
AdamThere's very little in the way of music and unless there's actual ghost activity, it's really quiet.
AdamBut you've got this really oppressive visual, though you're sort of, you are trapped in there and it makes you uncomfortable and the longer it goes quiet, the more likely you are to be like, is something gonna happen, is something gonna happen, is something.
LeeIt's a it's a masterpiece of like I know we're we've said it before, but it is a masterpiece of minimal filmmaking.
LeeI know that was why kind of we wanted to cover it, because it's one of the few films that's like genuinely got a, as you say, like a scary atmosphere and it's genuinely a scary film.
LeeBut not apart from the bending door and the writing on the wall, you see absolutely nothing, but it is so good.
LeeIt's so well-built with the suspense, it it's.
LeeIt's just an absolute masterclass in in a haunted house film.
LeeIt's gone.
ChrisBuilding tension.
ChrisAnd it progresses throughout and as Eleanor, you know, starts to change and kind of lose herself.
ChrisLike she's falling in love with the house, but also losing her mind and and yeah, as that sort of builds towards the end.
ChrisIt's yeah, it really builds intensity.
ChrisCuz it's kind of like, it is like a breakdown.
ChrisYeah, yeah, which was interesting that they sort of covered that so well, I wasn't really expecting that so much for the.
ChrisYeah, I mean I know 1963 isn't really that long ago, but.
Adam60 years.
ChrisYeah, well, yeah.
AdamYou know, a 60-year-old film that can still, you know, make you uncomfortable and make you sort of can.
AdamBuild tension and be scary.
ChrisYeah. Well, I was wondering whether it was like, was it just psychological that they were thinking it, but then of course there are.
ChrisParts that happen where it's like, no, it is meant to be actual there is something ghostly happening.
AdamWell, apparently apparently when the script writer, what's his name? Robert Gidding, I think.
Adamhe was, he basically at one point said, 'Oh, so she's having a breakdown, so the house is the hospital that she's in.
AdamAnd all the other characters are staff and patients and that was kind of gonna be a reveal that he was going to put in.
Chris
AdamAnd he spoke to Shirley Jackson, who wrote the book that it's based on, The Haunting of Hill House.
ChrisRight.
Adamand she basically said, 'No, it's a really haunted house.'
ChrisOh.
AdamIt's not symbolism or anything, it's a haunted house.
ChrisSo they just went, yeah.
AdamFair enough.
AdamWe'll just, and apparently The Haunting was her title, it was the other title that she had for the book.
Chris
AdamCuz they were like The Haunting of Hill House, that's a bit too long for a film. Okay, yeah, you know, and so on, so.
ChrisYeah, okay, that's interesting.
LeeI think that's why it draws you in, it is it's like a real haunting in the to the people who are there who are experiencing it.
LeeIt's totally real.
ChrisYeah.
LeeBut it's but it's very easy to just go, all right, so there was some banging and there was a space where you felt a bit cold, and it's very easy.
LeeWhich is, you know, which I think is why it's so compelling because it does show that how if you're in that, if you're in that situation, you could be totally convinced by something.
LeeBut when you try and explain it to someone, it doesn't come across.
ChrisYeah.
LeeWhich you know, I know we've mentioned in our last Haunting and when we re-re-evaluate that and come back to it again in a couple of weeks, we'll kind of say the same thing.
LeeBut and this whole film totally hinges on their react, the actors' reactions to things that we can't see or feel.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah.
LeeBut they sell it to such a fantastic degree.
AdamIt was.
AdamI mean, the key the key example of that is that one bit where where it's I mean, that that is one of the most compelling bits of film is where they're in the bedroom and there's the banging.
LeeYeah.
AdamApproaches, comes back and approachess and already, for a start, I am pleading with them not to open the door.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd again, this film is 60 fucking years old and I'm still going, 'No, don't open that, I don't want to know.
AdamI'll die in ignorance, I'm quite happy.
AdamNo, cuz usually especially, especially sort of like monster films and things like that, you're like, 'Oh no, show us the fucker!
ChrisYeah, yeah.
AdamI want to see the demon, I want to see the ghost.' In this, I'm like, 'No, I'm perfectly happy to die in ignorance, I don't want to see it, it's fucking terrifying.'
AdamBut when they say, 'It's above the door,' and there's nothing there.
ChrisNo.
LeeNo, but it's.
AdamBut it's.
AdamPut it there.
LeeBut it's the building of the sound and the way the camera zooms in that gives you the impression that there's something there that you you you can't see and but it's still, as you say, fills you with dread and gives you that don't do it, don't open the door.
LeeLike go and hold the door shut if anything.
LeeLike, just.
LeeYeah, but but it does it with nothing.
LeeAnd this, this had worked perfectly for an independent, this is what independent filmmakers need to be watching.
LeeBecause this can be made, you could make this on your fucking phone and then just edit in a bit of.
ChrisYeah, that's interesting.
LeeBecause you don't need anything.
LeeBut it wasn't written that way because it was written as a book, so it was never made in a like we can't we can't show it and we can't do the special effects.
LeeIt was written purely as a book, but it it's an absolutely perfect example of just build the tension, you don't need anything else apart from the people's reactions to things that.
ChrisYeah.
AdamHaving, so I've read The Haunting of Hill House and actually I will pop down to the vault.
AdamAt some point and give you a breakdown on Shirley Jackson and the house.
AdamHello, this is Adam down in the vault and I've got some information for all you lovely people about Shirley Jackson.
AdamAn American author who is credited as the pioneer of modern Gothic.
Adamshe was unable to satisfactorily complete a biography of herself for her first novel, so her husband wrote one, and this is the original draft, which I think gives you a flavor of Shirley Jackson.
AdamShe plays the guitar and sings 500 folk songs, as well as playing the piano and the zither.
AdamShe also paints, draws, embroiders, makes things out of seashells, plays chess, and takes care of the house and children, cooking, cleaning, laundry, etc.
AdamShe believes no artist was ever ruined by housework, or helped by it either.
AdamShe is an authority on witchcraft and magic, has a remarkable private library of works in English on the subject, and is perhaps the only contemporary writer who is a practicing amateur witch.
AdamSpecializing in small-scale black magic and fortune-telling with a tarot deck. She is passionately addicted to cats, and at the moment has six, all coal black.
AdamSo, yes, very few people who are credited as a, practicing amateur witch in their biography within their, certainly back in, back in those days.
Adamshe gained notoriety and acclaim in equal measure for her incredible short story The Lottery, which was first published in The New Yorker in 1948.
AdamOn first publication, both Jackson and The New Yorker received over 300 letters, mostly addressed to The Lottery Lady, ranging from the baffled to the abusive, such was the shock that it caused.
AdamThe New Yorker also suddenly had a number of subscription cancellations from outraged readers. The same year she published her first novel. She went on to write five more novels, over 200 short stories, two memoirs and four books for children, including an account of the Salem witch trials.
AdamShe met her husband, critic Stanley Hyman, while they were both at Syracuse University in New York. Hyman had read a short story Jackson had printed in the university magazine and exclaimed, 'Who is Shirley Jackson? Because I am going to marry her.'
AdamBut don't be too fooled by this romantic story. He was also a serial adulterer who forced her into agree to an open marriage and generally seemed like a bit of a prick.
Adamshe, they had four children, and if you can find it, there is a lovely segment on the series Clive Barker's A to Z of Horror. S is for Sorceress in episode two, where her four children speak about growing up with her and some of her more witchy practices.
AdamShirley was the primary breadwinner in the household, although Hyman maintained control of the finances and would portion out her earnings to her as he saw fit.
AdamAs well as her writing, she was raising the children and running the household.
AdamApparently Hyman's modern ideas may have encompassed open marriage, but didn't seem to encompass hands-on parenting or the sharing of household chores.
AdamAs I say, a bit of a prick.
AdamThe family settled into the small village of North Bennington, Vermont, where Hyman took an instructor's job at Bennington College.
AdamThe family were treated with suspicion by the conservative townspeople and Shirley, a perennial outsider, found she was not taken seriously as an author in local academia because she was also a mother and ran a household, but had too much of a career to be part of the 'wives of faculty' group, even though she wouldn't have wanted to join that anyway.
AdamIn later years she became dogged by ill health, with her heavy smoking contributing to chronic asthma, as well as fainting, dizziness, and joint pain attributed to arterial sclerosis and heart issues.
AdamShe also suffered from anxiety, for which she was prescribed barbiturates, and has also diagnosed with colitis.
AdamHer anxiety began to manifest as agoraphobia, although this began to respond to psychiatric treatment.
AdamSadly she died in her sleep at home, most likely of cardiac arrest, at the age of 48.
AdamIn 2007, the Shirley Jackson Awards were established, which recognize outstanding achievement in suspense, horror, and dark fantasy literature.
AdamPrevious winners include Neil Gaiman, Stephen King, Jeff VanderMeer, Priya Sharma, and Rob Shearman.
AdamAll of Shirley Jackson's, short stories and novels are definitely worth looking into, she's an incredible writer.
AdamI have also read We Have Always Lived in the Castle, which is just fantastic.
AdamAs for The Haunting of Hill House, there are certain changes, in its adaption into The Haunting. mostly this is that the events take place over 11 days rather than the three that we see in the film, so there are certain number of supernatural events that change or are left out of the, of the film, but it does mean that it has a greater impact, although it works so much better in the book to give you that constant build of dread.
Adamthere's much more, takes place in the grounds of Hill House, including a brook that, Eleanor and Theo find, which has a lot of ghost activity and, so on and so forth.
AdamThe, there are a lot of character names are changed.
Adamone of the main differences is that, Grace Montague, or Grace Markway as she is in the film, that's Dr. Markway's wife, rather than the skeptic that she is in The Haunting, is actually as obsessed with the supernatural as her husband, but goes about her research into it in a less scientific and much more traditional sort of way, automatic writing, that kind of thing.
AdamAnyway, this is, a brief enough moment of me in the vault, and I will now hand back to us in the future.
AdamGood luck with it, gentlemen, love the show.
AdamBo, there we go. but, this is an absolute, this should be like a fucking case study for filmmakers of how to adapt a book.
LeeYeah.
AdamBecause they both work on equally the same level. There are differences, but it's so right to the feel of the book.
AdamThat you get from the book, but it's done as a film. The book works on a literary level, whereas the film works on a cinematic level.
AdamAnd, you know, they are practically perfect, you know, it's sort of.
AdamBut again this is like, this is how you should do it, basically.
AdamIn so many ways.
LeeIt's funny because I think the perfect companion piece to this is The Legend of Hell House, because there are effectively the same story, instead of people from a medium background it's scientists, but effectively it's exactly the same story.
ChrisYeah, that's the one we watched.
LeeYes, that, yeah, yeah. And that's the same. The book and the because Adam bought me the book, thank you Adam, which I'd never read. And the book and the film, yeah, are close enough.
LeeThey definitely have their variance, like they know what works in one and doesn't work in the other and they kind of.
LeeAnd and it does exactly the same. It it takes the story and just makes it so perfectly realistic, yeah, and just anything that it knows won't convert from the written page into showing you, it just drops out and swaps for something else.
LeeAnd and it's it it's absolutely, it's a brilliant piece of screenwriting.
Leetaking a book and saying, right, this won't work, so let's not try and push it or make it hokey, let's just swap it out for something else and work for something that works in this medium but doesn't in that one.
LeeAnd and I think that's got to be a really difficult thing to do, especially with a book that you love enough to have turned into.
LeeA film to let things go that you really care about, but go, 'No what, it's it's going to screw the movie and it's going to make it hokey and it's not going to work.'
ChrisYeah.
AdamYeah.
AdamI mean.
AdamSo what happened was is Robert Wise was coming off of like I say, coming off of West Side Story, so he's won two Oscars at this point.
AdamAnd frankly, the fact that he doesn't get an Oscar for this is a stain on humanity.
LeeYeah.
AdamBut, it's technically a war crime as far as I'm concerned.
AdamBut, and then MGM, he had like one, one movie left with them.
AdamAnd he said, 'Well, I want to do this adaption of The Haunting of Hill House.'
AdamAnd they offered him like a million to do it.
AdamAnd then he found out that if he went to MGM England, because they had like a subsidiary over here.
AdamThey offered him slightly more money.
AdamAnd there's a thing and at the time there was a thing called the Eady Levy, which is, basically it was like a box office tax.
AdamThat went back into British film.
AdamIt was to try and keep British filmmaking going.
AdamAnd so if you filmed it using, if you basically you qualified as a British film as long as you filmed it over here and there were only two.
AdamI think it's like two or three non-UK resident wages going out in it.
ChrisYeah, okay.
AdamSo, so basically, yeah, so they got a bit of extra money to do it over here, but that's why it's packed full of British actors.
Adamit's only, it's only Julie Harris who plays Eleanor and Russ Tamblyn who plays Luke, who are American.
Adamby the way, you know, you do know that's Dr. Jacoby, don't you?
LeeWhat?
AdamLuke in this, that's Russ Tamblyn, that's Dr. Jacoby from Twin Peaks.
LeeFuck off.
AdamYeah, you just thought, you just thought that Dean Stockwell had fucked Andy Serkis and produced this boy.
AdamBut no, that is Dr. Jacoby from fucking Twin Peaks.
LeeI didn't spot that, but I did spot that, John, John Markway.
LeeI'd be very surprised if that's not, Pinball Bobby's dad.
LeeBecause he looks exactly like Pinball Bobby the whole way through this movie.
LeeI thought that was.
AdamWell, the only thing that may remove that is that actor is called Richard Johnson. I literally watched an episode of Thriller last night with him in it.
LeeOh no, you didn't.
AdamAnd he is, and he is still just so suave.
AdamAnd, but he is, and this is a word you don't often hear with a man born in Upminster.
LeeUpminster?
AdamSo yeah, he's Upminster born and bred is Richard Johnson, but also he's the dad in The Monster Club, you know, the the bit with, oh fuck, Donald Pleasence, where they're the vampire hunters.
LeeYeah, yeah.
AdamYeah, he's the dad. You know the dad who's the, spoiler alert, the dad who's a vampire.
AdamThat's him.
Adamhe's also in, Zombie Flesheaters, he's in loads of like really good horror films.
LeeThat's fucking blown my mind. I did not realize that it was him at all.
AdamYeah, but like I say, yeah.
AdamSo it's only Russ Tamblyn and like so it's only Luke and Eleanor who, so Claire Bloom's English.
Adamand.
AdamRosalie Crutchley who plays the housekeeper, she's like, she's, I think she only died fairly recently.
AdamShe's been in stuff right up until like up until now.
AdamBut like loads of British telly and stuff like that.
AdamAnd the groundskeeper, who we only ever seem to see, Valentine Dyall not doing his real voice.
LeeValentine Dyall?
AdamYeah, Valentine Dyall was the the the you know the the groundskeeper when they get there, but we only ever see Valentine Dyall doing an American accent.
AdamBecause the only other time he's appeared on the podcast was when we did City of the Dead.
LeeYeah.
AdamHorror Hotel.
LeeOh my God.
LeeYeah.
LeeHoly.
LeeShit.
LeeYeah, it is.
AdamSo, so yeah, pretty much so technically, The Haunting is a British film.
Chris
AdamHe's an American director, but it's all English, he's a pretty much English, pretty much English cast, pretty much English crew, filmed all over here.
AdamI mean, the bit where she's coming out of the parking garage, that's near the Barbican.
LeeYeah.
AdamSo it's really weird that you've got London doubling up for like Boston.
ChrisYeah.
LeeBut it's what they do now with Canada because they give so as you say, the same thing, so many tax breaks, everything is Canadian made and shot in Canada.
LeeBut yeah, funded by Hollywood, but it's all fucking shot in Canada.
AdamYeah.
AdamBut it's, not only that, but also I just love the, because I wonder how that would be done nowadays.
AdamIn so much as would Luke actually be hopeful that it's going to be haunted.
ChrisWell, yeah, cuz that would probably.
AdamThe amount of money you get from having the first documented, scientifically proven haunting.
ChrisYeah.
AdamBut, you know, back in those days it's probably a lot easier to pass it on.
LeeYeah.
AdamI mean, let's face it, he wasn't going to go and live there or anything else like that.
AdamThis is clearly like how how quickly can I punt this fucking useless lump of real estate out as fast as I can and get leathered.
LeeI did love that line in it actually, yeah, where it all starts kicking off and he turns around to Markway and says, 'You want to buy this house? You can have this, you can have it cheap.'
ChrisYeah.
AdamExactly.
AdamThe other thing that with it as well is that obviously you've got the character of Theo who is clearly a lesbian, which was quite a unusual thing for for the time certainly for the time.
AdamBut also the fact that that's it's not it's not a key part of the character, it doesn't sort of, but it is, if you see what I mean.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd but it's done with a great deal of awareness, so the audience would be able to pick up on it without having to make it plain.
AdamSo.
ChrisSo obviously, yeah.
AdamProbably a number of people who saw it at the time who never picked up on it.
AdamYeah.
AdamBut apparently there that was the one deleted scene I heard about is that they, you see her having an argument with her girlfriend, like basically splitting up because she mentions that she's just left someone, I think at one point.
Adamand.
AdamBut again, yeah, that was like Robert Wise was like, well, we'll cut it out because it's everything else in this is quite subtle, so let's leave that to subtlety.
ChrisYeah.
AdamBut I think it also works so well.
AdamThat you just then you keep Eleanor as your focus.
AdamCuz I don't think anything occurs.
AdamPretty much without Eleanor being there.
LeeNo.
AdamOther characters go off and do stuff, but Eleanor is always the focal point, yeah.
ChrisThe focal point, yeah.
LeeYeah.
LeeAnd that's another thing that was terribly in your face and all about the the the 91 remake.
LeeYeah, is that literally Eleanor comes in and meets Catherine Zeta Jones who plays the Theo character. Yeah, and one of the first things she said is, 'Oh, my boyfriend says this, but my girlfriend says that.'
LeeLike they just make it everything is so like dumbed down and just overplayed and just, yeah, it was really fucking difficult to.
AdamDo you feel it's like that quote from the second series of Sean Show where it's like we want thick people to get it this time.
LeeYeah.
AdamSo you know, The Haunting's good, but there's far too much subtlety for people, you know.
AdamAnd then and then of course they did The Haunting of Hill House the TV series which is pretty much nothing to do with the book, but I think that that was a, oh it's a franchiseable name, so we'll use it.
AdamBecause it's an easier sell than it is, but again, I don't want that to, I don't want either of those to supersede.
LeeNo.
AdamThe Haunting from 1963, because I think it's it's very, it's still so fucking good and also still functions as a horror movie.
AdamWe watch a lot of stuff, you know, I love Hammer, but I acknowledge that Hammer is not scary for a modern audience or anything like that, you know.
AdamI mean, funnily enough, I was actually thinking the other day, I probably shot Ted Dracula, you know, because it's got all the bits of Dracula that he liked.
AdamWithout getting too sort of scary or whatever like that, whereas whereas this, this is still genuinely worrisome.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd that's.
LeeYeah.
LeeYeah.
Lee100%.
LeeIt's.
LeeYeah.
Leealso, obviously, Adam, you mentioned before, Shirley Jackson's, The Lottery.
LeeSo you sent us the the short film of that.
LeeChris.
LeeWhat did you make of that? I think you quite liked it, didn't you?
ChrisYeah.
ChrisSo, you know, I didn't know anything about it aside from it's called The Lottery, and you're watching it.
ChrisIt's like, okay, what's going on here? It's just a little town.
ChrisThey're collecting stones, a bit weird, all right, what's going to happen? And then, yeah, they all congregate and then they're doing a lottery.
ChrisOkay, and you kind of like, well, something bad is going to happen, and yeah, I did think the stones are probably going to be involved, but it, you know, it's sort of playing out.
ChrisAnd and then, the old guy, he's complaining about all these, you know, new young ideas, like ruining everything.
ChrisIt's like, okay, this is, he's getting kind of interesting, and then of course, yeah, it it turns at the end, and you're like, yeah, it's completely, you know, it's showing something about how insane some of how rituals and traditions have been.
ChrisAnd when it's put in that context, it's like so obviously, well, that would be horrific if if that was done, and yet we are still doing some things that are, you know, probably should be changed.
ChrisBut once they become ingrained.
LeeYeah.
ChrisIn the psyche of the group, it's like, well, if one person did that to someone, they'd be awful, lock them up, straight away, hate them, you know.
ChrisBut if the group do it, the majority, and they're all in on it, it's like, well, okay, that's what we do.
ChrisSo don't don't try and turn away from this.
AdamIt's it's also the sort of banality of it that it feels like it's like a fucking car boot sale.
ChrisYeah, it's a matter of fact. They're just going through these motions.
AdamA swap me if I knew what one of those was, I don't know.
LeeI don't know.
LeeI've got to say, I I made some notes and yeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town. Like and that was, it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you, and then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeI'd never watched.
ChrisWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there they mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just this is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper.
Leebut I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched. No, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it.
LeeThey didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town, like and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys.
LeeBecause I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you and then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, and you're quite right, Chris, I'm sure the message is far deeper, but I did just write down that it was the most boring episode of Tales of the Unexpected I'd ever watched.
LeeNo, I think only because they could have cut five minutes out of it. They didn't need to mention the surname of everybody in the town.
LeeLike and that was it got to the point where I I was texting you guys because I was like, I'd gotten so bored, I was thinking of the show, then I was thinking of things I should message you.
LeeAnd then I was texting you, and they still hadn't finished reading out names and I was like, this too is fucking long.
ChrisYeah, I can definitely see.
LeeWatching it again.
LeeNo.
ChrisI was like.
AdamI can.
LeeNo, I think it's just really fucking long. I can definitely see like watching it again, because they have in there.
LeeThey mentioned every single one of their full names and you're just like, why are you doing this, it's just.
LeeThis is just a quick film about people who pick out the name in the lottery and then get stone to death, you don't need to know everybody's full name, it's not that deep, but it's like, no, it's very deep.
