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0:23 Lee Good evening and welcome to Horror.

0:25 Lee I'm Lee.

0:26 Chris I'm Chris.

0:27 Adam I'm Adam.

0:28 Lee And I don't know why I'm shouting but I am so it's fine.

0:32 Lee We're here again for what we've been watching episode, it's been two months we were just discussing since the last one I think.

0:38 Lee So we've watched a lot of stuff.

0:39 Chris Oh, we've been busy.

0:41 Lee So if we try and keep it short so we can get through stuff.

0:45 Lee There will be possible spoilers, we'll try and stay away from them as much as possible.

0:50 Lee there will be swearing, we won't be avoiding that because we like it and we're grownups we can do what we fucking well like.

0:56 Lee and.

0:58 Adam He's bad.

0:59 Lee Oh, I know, I'm just in one of them moods, mischievous.

1:43 Lee Right.

1:44 Lee Let's begin with Adam this time.

1:48 Adam Right, well, you've just reminded me of what I watched last night, which was due to, well, partly it's spurred, that sounds wrong.

1:57 Adam obviously, Raquel Welch died in the in the week and yeah, hammer goddess and so on and so forth.

2:08 Adam but yeah, I watched Bedazzled, mostly because Claire had never seen it.

2:12 Lee Oh my God.

2:13 Adam this is the this is obviously the sixties Peter Cook and Dudley Moore Bedazzled, not the remake from I think the nineties.

2:22 Lee Yeah.

2:23 Adam With Brendan Fraser and Liz Hurley, which I've never seen, I'll admit.

2:27 Adam But.

2:28 Lee I saw that on a very early date with Jennifer, I think it was the first time she ever invited me around to cook me dinner and she'd hired it from the video shop.

2:36 Adam

2:37 Lee So, I have seen it, but.

2:40 Lee It was a long time ago and it's extremely forgettable.

2:43 Lee Unlike the Peton Dudley one.

2:44 Adam Yeah.

2:45 Adam So, I'm assuming Chris that this is not one you've seen.

2:49 Adam basically, so.

2:52 Adam Peter Cook and Dudley Moore, as in Hound of the Baskervilles that we watched on our Sherlock Holmes month many moons ago now.

3:00 Adam and basically Dudley Moore is a short order chef who can't pull the waitress at the restaurant he works at, he's leading a miserable little life, so goes off to kill himself and then Peter Cook turns up and he's the devil and he offers him seven wishes in return for his mortal soul, and Dud agrees after he proves that he's the devil by melting his froger and Gleeson's ice lolly.

4:13 Adam Here, my ice lolly is melted.

4:15 Adam You really must be the devil incarnate.

4:18 Adam And basically it's every time basically Dud comes up with a scenario where he is able to get with this girl that he fancys.

4:30 Adam And every time there's a twist in the tail that the devil has put in there, so in one of them he specifies right, I want us to be married.

4:41 Adam And deeply in love, and then they go there and they are married and deeply in love.

4:47 Adam But they're deeply in love with each other, but they're not married to each other so they're conducting an affair.

4:54 Adam And they can't conduct the affair because of how nice the husband is that they're cheating on and he's just a saint and.

5:03 Adam So every time it gets sort of and they do there's a one of the best bits is they

5:10 Adam Dudley's character Stanley wants to be a pop star because he knows that you know, women are going to go crazy if he's a pop star.

5:20 Adam And he comes on and does this song called Love me and it's all about oh, won't you please come me and love me.

5:30 Adam And all the girls are screaming.

5:33 Adam And then Peter Cook's band comes on Drimble Wedge and the Vegetations.

5:38 Adam And they do a song in which Peter Cook just says how bored he is with the person.

5:45 Adam So it's the very opposite of the sort of love me, it's absolute indifference and like please leave me alone.

5:54 Adam And you know, just a perfect real sort of grasp of the the psychology of pop music where where all the women are going for the guy from the effective position of I don't care.

6:07 Adam And but yeah, I mean overall it's just written it's written by Peter Dad.

6:13 Adam Dad did all the music and yeah.

6:16 Adam It's just really funny and helping the devil.

6:19 Adam Are the seven deadly sins and Raquel Welch is lust.

6:24 Chris Oh.

6:25 Adam and also Barry Humphries like Dame Edna as envy is oily, brilliant.

6:33 Adam And just horrible and catty and sort of yeah.

6:37 Adam And

6:37 Chris So this is a good callback to our previous episode.

6:41 Chris It also included some sins.

6:43 Adam Yes, yes, exactly.

6:44 Adam Oh, actually yeah, I hadn't even thought about it.

6:47 Adam I've been on the sort of.

6:49 Chris Subconsciously looking for more.

6:51 Adam A lot of a lot of this does relate.

6:53 Adam I will say.

6:54 Adam It has sort of done that.

6:55 Adam But yeah, so that's Bedazzled and people who've never seen it.

7:00 Adam Really fucking should.

7:01 Lee Yeah, absolutely, fantastic film.

7:03 Lee Brilliant.

7:04 Adam Yeah, and pure sixties as well.

7:06 Lee Yeah.

7:06 Adam You know, it really is.

7:10 Adam but not in a shit way.

7:11 Lee Excellent.

7:12 Lee Oh, just before we move on very quickly.

7:14 Lee Did you enjoy it as well?

7:15 Adam Did you enjoy it?

7:16 Lee Yeah, it was brilliant.

7:18 Chris There we go.

7:19 Lee Yeah, I thought it was much.

7:21 Lee Chris, what have you been checking out?

7:24 Chris So, I have watched the now I've got to figure out how to actually call it correctly, right Scream, but it's just called Scream, it's the Scream 2022 remake.

7:34 Chris But it's taught me what it is while watching it, it's not a remake, it's a recal.

7:41 Lee Yes.

7:42 Chris Right, now you, whether either of you mentioned this word before, I don't know, but I learned that term and I also learned elevated horror, which maybe you've said these things and I've forgotten them or you thought they're not terms that are worth mentioning.

7:52 Chris I'm not sure but it was fascinating.

7:55 Chris Right, so as far as I can tell, I've not seen Scream two, three, four, and then I think this makes this the fifth one.

8:03 Chris Essentially.

8:04 Chris But I'm assuming that this being a recall is and anyway, so if you seen this.

8:12 Lee Yes, I did.

8:13 Adam I I've not now.

8:15 Chris You haven't.

8:15 Chris No.

8:15 Chris Okay.

8:16 Chris So I'm hopefully not setting real spoilers yet and won't, but it as far as I can tell, it may be the closest to the original out of all of them.

8:26 Chris Is that is that.

8:27 Lee Right.

8:27 Chris Right, that's that's got to be the purpose of it, I think.

8:31 Chris And it is, right, so after we watched Scream and I thought that still was held up really well from when I saw it previously, I still really enjoyed the meta aspect of it.

8:44 Chris The fact that it can talk about itself and other films like it and still make a good film, I think it's pretty impressive.

8:52 Chris And then this has done it again, but with the next layer.

8:56 Chris And tons of references, which I guess now after having seen a lot of the films and heard a lot of the names that is still quite exciting to me.

9:05 Chris I don't know if that works for lots of horror fans.

9:08 Chris But it really was quite fun just to watch it from a hearing all the different references.

9:13 Chris So, you know, they mentioned The Witch at the beginning, and and a few other of these elevated horror films.

9:22 Chris And I was like, oh that's interesting.

9:23 Chris So I seem like I like that type where there is perhaps other aspects that you wouldn't necessarily have used to have got in horror films as much.

9:33 Chris so yeah, so from that perspective, like it was really enjoyable and I do think they did, I I enjoyed it as a film in itself without all of that as well.

9:41 Chris it was funny how you're trying to work out who is who it is because you know, it has to be some of the people that you can see.

9:48 Chris Because it's not going to be no one.

9:50 Chris You can't see.

9:50 Chris Right.

9:50 Chris But so who could it be and then they really do set it up where it to me felt like.

9:53 Chris Yeah, I don't know it really could be any of them.

9:55 Lee I can't even remember now, I saw it when it came out but I don't remember.

9:59 Chris Pretty much.

9:59 Chris Yeah.

9:59 Chris Okay.

10:00 Chris Okay.

10:00 Chris Well I quite liked the fact that Courteney Cox was in it and David Campbell and

10:07 Chris Oh, here's the other thing, right, so having watched Scary Movie, when I saw Dewey, I was like, is he, is he the one who does it, because he is in Scary Movie.

10:17 Chris And then that reminded me of it wasn't that from Usual Suspects, Kevin Spacey, isn't that they show it at the end of Scary Movie.

10:24 Adam Yeah, they, whatever his name.

10:26 Adam Do they, he turns into a.

10:28 Chris So yeah, so no, I was I was trying to think am I just getting mixed up with the whole Scream Scary Movie situation.

10:33 Chris But I did, yeah, I enjoyed it.

10:34 Adam Even even when we watched Scream, I could not take fucking David Arquette's character seriously because I just saw him as Dewey from.

10:37 Chris No.

10:41 Chris Scary Movie.

10:41 Chris Yeah.

10:42 Adam Yeah.

10:43 Adam He did a very good job.

10:44 Chris Good.

10:44 Chris Absolutely.

10:46 Chris Yeah.

10:47 Adam From what I from what I gather.

10:49 Adam Lee, you you would be able to tell me more.

10:51 Adam Because I've I've only seen Scream.

10:53 Lee

10:54 Adam But I understand that the the sequels all of them are that sort of thing of right so if this was a movie, this is the sequel.

11:02 Adam So it's not going to be as good or they're going to make a mistake.

11:06 Lee That's exactly what it is and it does it for the whole the whole way through.

11:10 Adam So.

11:10 Adam It sounds like.

11:11 Lee And the third, when they're like, oh it's become a trilogy so now it's got to be someone from further back in the backstory and then, yeah, so they they do play up to that a lot.

11:20 Lee And they do in the new one as well.

11:21 Lee It's the oh, well, this is.

11:23 Lee Oh, well, it's the same it's the same killer but it's now attacking a new generation.

11:28 Lee So this is clearly a reboot, so if it was a reboot, this is what it would be happening.

11:32 Lee And yeah, and it worked just as well.

11:33 Lee Oh, the gore in it though.

11:36 Lee Oh.

11:36 Chris Oh, yeah.

11:38 Lee There's one scene in it that I was honestly, I was like, that is one of the most graphic things I've ever seen.

11:43 Lee But because the film is so like you say, sort of playful and enjoyable.

11:46 Chris Yeah, yeah.

11:48 Lee It really, really nailed me, it came so so far out of left field.

11:51 Lee It yeah, it was fantastic.

11:53 Chris Yeah.

11:54 Chris Well, so so I would say I absolutely enjoyed it.

11:56 Chris And would recommend it.

11:58 Chris And if you do watch it, I'd be interested to see what you think.

12:01 Chris And I'm tempted to watch the others as well.

12:03 Chris Just to see.

12:04 Lee I I enjoyed all of them.

12:05 Adam It's interesting because they're actually now covering a more modern phenomena.

12:12 Chris

12:13 Adam As in the the recall.

12:15 Chris Yeah.

12:15 Chris Yeah.

12:16 Adam Which which back to your earlier question, I probably wouldn't use recall.

12:19 Adam But I I've used elevated horror but only in the sense of that seems to have become a given term for a certain type of thing.

12:27 Adam Personally, I'd just call it arty.

12:30 Lee Yeah.

12:30 Adam And if I'm feeling really arrogant, good.

12:34 Chris Yeah, well that's it that seems quite arty.

12:34 Adam But.

12:38 Chris Yeah.

12:39 Chris Yeah.

12:41 Chris Yeah, that's just a good film really.

12:43 Adam Because you've had stuff like Halloween 2018.

12:49 Adam Which I'm going to have to call it just because they only called it Halloween.

12:52 Adam Much in the same way as they've only called this Scream.

12:54 Chris Yeah.

12:55 Adam And they're already sort of feeding on that, oh, this is a new thing that's happening in slasher films.

13:00 Lee Yeah.

13:01 Adam Like they did it with the Netflix Texas Chainsaw was kind of that as well.

13:06 Adam And that whole thing of slightly bad thing of removing all the bits in between and saying, no, they didn't exist, they're they're shit.

13:16 Lee Yeah.

13:17 Adam And so on, yeah.

13:21 Lee Yeah.

13:22 Lee Excellent, I'm glad you enjoyed it.

13:24 Lee so I took Tony's recommendation from.

13:27 Lee When I sat and had a chat with Tony Wash and we discussed remakes, funnily enough.

13:32 Adam Oh yeah.

13:33 Lee and I think I said to him, you know, we were discussing about how films that have got great concepts are the ones you should be remaking, which I know we've said on the show.

13:40 Lee Rather than the ones that work perfectly.

13:43 Lee and ask him what asked him what he would like to remake and he said he'd like to make remake Superstition from 1982.

13:49 Lee Oh.

13:50 Adam Oh, yeah, that sounded really fucking good.

13:53 Adam When he described that.

13:54 Adam But go on.

13:55 Adam Sorry.

13:55 Lee Yes, so.

13:56 Lee He's absolutely right, it is a perfect candidate for that.

13:59 Lee It's got some amazing elements, it's it's an incredible story.

14:05 Lee it's got some real pacing issues.

14:08 Lee it was made on the cheap so it looks pretty naff in places.

14:14 Lee but it has got a lot going for it.

14:18 Lee So I I watched it and thoroughly enjoyed it, Jennifer made it about 10 minutes in and checked out.

14:23 Lee She was like, no, I'm not doing this.

14:24 Lee It's.

14:26 Lee It's it's only an hour and 25 minutes long.

14:30 Lee The first 10 minutes, no exaggeration.

14:32 Lee Two blokes in the house in which the haunting later takes place.

14:36 Lee And one of them just walks from room to room shouting his mate's name for about five minutes.

14:42 Lee Then he disappears off the scene.

14:43 Lee The mate he was looking for turns up and does exactly the same thing, so you have a full 10 minutes of just someone going.

14:51 Lee Jerry.

14:52 Lee Jerry.

14:54 Lee Are you in here, Jerry?

14:57 Lee Jerry.

14:58 Chris This sounds like they could have just done one minute and put it in slow motion.

15:01 Lee Oh, it was just, I mean, but like some of the special effects are fantastic in it.

15:04 Lee and it's yeah, so it as he said it's it was all set because a witch was supposed to be burned and they didn't, they threw her in the lake with this big cross.

15:13 Lee and.

15:15 Lee So you get quite a lot of that sort of back story.

15:18 Lee So you'll shown to you.

15:21 Lee and all of that flashback stuff is excellent, it's really good.

15:25 Lee and the kills are good.

15:27 Lee But yeah, it's just the pacing of it.

15:28 Lee It's just it's one of those films a bit like that first scene.

15:32 Lee Where you sit through it for five minutes and then you're like, oh, thank God that's over and then they just replay it.

15:37 Lee It does that quite a lot, there's quite a lot of scenes of somebody doing something for far too long and then five minutes later, you have to sit for another five minutes watching somebody else and it just.

15:49 Lee So yeah, I I think it's it's a good.

15:51 Chris Like that in it.

15:53 Lee Yeah.

15:54 Lee But yeah, it it was enjoyable, I I'd definitely watch it again.

15:58 Lee But yeah, I think it would be one that'd make an amazing remake.

16:01 Lee So.

16:02 Chris Okay.

16:02 Lee Yeah.

16:03 Lee I would say do watch it, especially if you're a big fan of low budget 80s horror.

16:07 Lee It is really good.

16:09 Lee and it is it is suspenseful.

16:11 Lee But yeah, you will find yourself getting bored with it to the point of finding it amusing just how bad the pacing is at parts.

16:18 Lee But yeah.

16:20 Lee Generally good.

16:22 Chris Cool.

16:24 Lee back to you Adam.

16:26 Adam Back to me, right.

16:27 Adam Well, I'm going to I'm going to obviously bring the mood down, that just because I think it's a film that I would not.

16:35 Adam I don't expect either of you to sit through.

16:39 Adam So I would not say that it was one that we would put on, we would do necessarily.

16:44 Adam But also just it's an iconic horror but probably just one we'll never do as an episode or whatever like that.

16:54 Adam But yeah.

16:55 Adam I woke up on my birthday, there was no one around, so I got up and I watched Cannibal Holocaust.

17:03 Lee

17:05 Adam 1980s yeah, 1980s action comedy Romcom catalog.

17:10 Lee You had lunch.

17:12 Adam Yes, I did eat lunch, through it, all right.

17:16 Adam But no, it was actually that was that was sort of elevensies.

17:19 Adam You know, it wasn't really lunch.

17:20 Adam You know, it's quite early.

17:22 Adam but yes, and directed by Roguero Diadato, who again, I think would have been a couple of months back now died.

17:34 Adam But it's one of those things that comes with such baggage as a name that I think it doesn't get the credit for what it does well.

17:45 Adam I'm going to start I'm going to state straight off, yes, it does feature animal cruelty.

17:52 Adam And I'm not happy about that.

17:54 Adam I it's not pleasant to watch but equally I was like, I want to watch the film.

17:59 Lee Yeah.

18:00 Adam And, you know, it's happened.

18:02 Adam There's nothing I'm going to do to stop that.

18:04 Adam It exists.

18:05 Adam So.

18:05 Chris Yeah.

18:06 Chris Yeah.

18:07 Adam And you know, and but it's still fucking hell, it's still fucking horrendous to watch.

18:12 Adam So that is a provides that immediately for anyone who would go to see it's like if that's going to put you off.

18:19 Chris It.

18:19 Chris It's it's funny, it's funny that would put me off from the start and I I wonder how would be yeah, if if because I I totally understand the idea.

18:26 Chris Of watching it and it's similar to like say Kevin Spacey and other people that we've covered before it's like what point do you say, well, I'm now going to cut out the whole thing because of these bad parts.

18:38 Chris It's it's difficult to figure out where the line should or feels like it needs to be.

18:41 Chris So yeah, I get.

18:43 Adam And that's the thing, it's kind of like, you know, he's an acknowledged classic, but in terms of it's cannibal films.

18:50 Adam So you, you know, they they're a pretty grim bunch all together, you know.

18:58 Adam and it's but it's got a very weird thing, obviously, first of all, it's basically found footage.

19:06 Adam It's.

19:08 Adam So, basically this guy you they document him as he goes to find out what happened to a previous film crew.

19:17 Adam he meets with through various sort of missvention and everything, he finds the remains of the previous crew who've been cannibalized by this

19:28 Adam sort of undiscovered South American tribe or untouched South American tribe.

19:37 Adam And yeah, basically he takes the footage back and then reviews it and the people who have made.

19:44 Adam You know, the people have sponsored the first lot and his lot were like, oh, well, we're still going to release the footage because you know, it's of scientific interest and blah, blah, blah.

19:55 Adam And then he says, no, I want to show you the footage in full and you basically see the original film crew.

20:02 Adam Are absolute fucking scum.

20:07 Adam They are just animals who just go out and live it up and do what they fucking want in this lawless land.

20:19 Adam And stir trouble up and butcher and attack the villagers to try and get reactions so that they can say here's us being attacked by.

20:26 Adam And basically, you know, but so for a film that has a lot of horrible elements in it, it still has quite the message of no, the problem here is the West coming in.

20:38 Adam You know, or or.

20:40 Adam Or sort of or civilization in inverted commas coming in is what the problem is here.

20:44 Adam And they are they're the evil in this, regardless of what else is happening or whatever.

20:51 Adam But.

20:52 Adam And it's, you know, I mean it's a striking film, it's fucking grueling in places.

20:56 Adam And particularly obviously, you know, like I say, animal cruelty and things.

21:01 Adam And famously, you know, some of the imagery in it, they ended up having to bring an actress along to prove she hadn't been killed.

21:12 Chris Oh.

21:12 Adam They had to bring an actress.

21:16 Adam a court case because basically the filmmakers were like, we're not showing that, it's a snuff film, you know, this woman's clearly been murdered.

21:24 Adam And it's like, no, here she is.

21:25 Adam She's not.

21:26 Adam It's very good special effects, that's all.

21:28 Chris There's a callback to to one of the other things we watched over Christmas.

21:32 Chris Inside number nine.

21:33 Adam Yeah.

21:33 Adam Yeah, very, very much.

21:34 Adam And it's.

21:36 Adam but no, I mean it's it's it's I'm, you know, powerful film, it is a good film.

21:43 Adam Enjoy is you have to say in the way, you know.

21:48 Chris Yeah.

21:48 Adam Oh, I say.

21:49 Adam Enjoy.

21:51 Adam But it's, you know, it's a good film and sort of and has the weirdest fucking theme tune as well.

21:59 Adam Because the theme tune it sounds like love music from a 80s American soap opera.

22:06 Adam It's just like, yeah, just totally at odds with what actually happens in it.

22:13 Adam

22:14 Adam But yeah, and no, I mean it's it's it's great but also yeah.

22:21 Adam In the words of John Waters' father, you know, it's like well, it's good, but I'm glad I don't have to watch it again.

22:26 Adam And I think I, you know, I think I may watch it again but it's going to be another 20 odd years before sheer curiosity's like, oh, yeah, now I've got to review that in my head to remind myself that it's actually a good film, you know.

22:38 Adam And not just this sort of ogy man sort of.

22:41 Adam Shock fest for no good reason as it were.

22:46 Lee Nice.

22:49 Adam I know how to get a party started.

22:51 Lee I might get around to it one day, but yeah.

22:54 Adam well, there is just in just as a thing, there is a there is a version now that the director supervised which cuts out a lot of the actual animal cruelty.

23:03 Chris

23:04 Adam which was available as an option on it, but I was kind of like, I can't remember what this film's like.

23:12 Lee Yeah.

23:12 Lee You need to.

23:12 Adam I need to see what I saw the first time round.

23:15 Lee Yeah.

23:15 Adam You know, because otherwise I won't know what's what if you see what I mean.

23:19 Lee Yeah, yeah.

23:21 Chris I was wondering that about options.

23:23 Chris Yeah.

23:24 Chris I mean.

23:24 Chris Because what happened rolled recently and they're rewriting his one of his books.

23:29 Chris I didn't read the full article, I just saw headlines.

23:32 Chris Some elements that are causing offense.

23:35 Chris And it's it's like, yeah, I wonder.

23:37 Chris Certainly with films like that, perhaps it is better if you get both options.

23:42 Lee Yeah.

23:43 Chris You know, as long as it's not something that's illegal, then perhaps it is, yeah, up to the person to choose.

23:48 Adam It's back it's frankly it's back to Star Wars and that's nothing to do with censorship or anyone's sensitivities or anything like that.

23:55 Chris It's just good and bad.

23:55 Adam But it's not.

23:56 Adam It it's it's nice to have the option to watch both.

23:59 Chris Do you want to watch the better version or the slightly more rubbish version?

23:59 Adam Yeah.

24:00 Adam You know, if I want to watch it with where I can see the curly cold coming up.

24:05 Adam Gynesis' wrist.

24:06 Adam Yes, I want to see that version.

24:10 Adam I'm sorry, I'm sorry I'm being a pain.

24:11 Adam But yeah.

24:13 Lee Nice.

24:14 Lee Chris, what did you watch next?

24:16 Chris So, I watched something that I'm sure both of you must have seen.

24:21 Chris And this is something that actually was instigated by Shirley because it was such a big release and it was Wednesday.

24:30 Lee I also watched Wednesday.

24:32 Chris You have and Adam.

24:33 Adam I have not now.

24:34 Chris You haven't.

24:35 Chris No.

24:35 Chris Okay.

24:36 Chris Well that's interesting.

24:36 Chris So, so as it started, I did say to her because I really didn't know anything about it.

24:43 Chris Aside from having seen it show up on Netflix.

24:47 Chris and and I said to her, this does look a bit like if this was a film, I was about to try and show you, you would say, no, turn this off.

24:55 Chris And she said, yeah, no, it does actually.

24:56 Chris Right, so it's there's an element of when something's so big.

25:00 Chris It's slightly less scary than it really is just because of that.

25:04 Chris Because everyone's watching it.

25:05 Chris It can't really be that bad.

25:06 Chris But actually there were some.

25:08 Adam A lot of people are watching it.

25:11 Chris Yeah, exactly.

25:11 Chris Yeah.

25:12 Chris And and I think this like that phenomenon happened with 50 Shades of Grey as well.

25:15 Chris I'm pretty sure most of the people that read that would not go out and read anything else at all similar to it, but just because it was a social phenomenon.

25:22 Chris It kind of makes it like.

25:23 Adam Here's an interesting and popular fact.

25:26 Adam Do you know that 50 Shades of Grey started off as Twilight fan fiction?

25:30 Chris Well, I heard.

25:30 Chris This.

25:31 Chris I've no idea the, you know, the veracity, but it actually is, yeah.

25:35 Adam It actually.

25:35 Chris Which that does seem really weird.

25:37 Chris I've never seen Twilight so only heard yeah, some negative things about it.

25:40 Lee Nor have I.

25:43 Chris But yeah, no, it's funny.

25:44 Chris but yeah, so so we did, we watched all, I think it was eight episodes.

25:49 Chris And I got to say, I really liked it.

25:50 Chris And then, I must have seen at the start of one of them that it was actually Tim Burton was director or producer.

25:55 Chris So.

25:56 Chris And then that it certainly looks like his style.

26:01 Chris yeah, so so really, yeah.

26:03 Chris I was I was really impressed.

26:04 Chris And the the actress Jenna Ortega, who funnily enough was in the Scream.

26:10 Chris Scream remake as well.

26:12 Lee Yeah, she's in the next one as well that's coming out this year.

26:15 Chris Oh, okay.

26:16 Chris And so yeah.

26:17 Chris She's she's really great.

26:18 Chris I thought she was fantastic as Wednesday.

26:20 Chris

26:21 Chris And and then so I don't remember that much about the Adam's family, which I know you may look slightly disapprovingly, but

26:32 Adam Yeah, in fairness, I mean, the.

26:35 Adam The films but I mean the TV hasn't been repeated for fucking years, you know.

26:35 Chris They weren't.

26:38 Lee I had to buy them all on DVD, all of the in a box set so I could have them all.

26:41 Chris I I definitely remember them being on, you know, on the TV at points when I was younger, we watched some of them and remember enjoying them.

26:46 Chris I have to say, probably the biggest thing I remember from them is Thing and and and you know, it's nice to see.

26:53 Chris Him in there in there.

26:55 Chris

26:57 Chris Yeah, so so I I thought they did a really good job with it.

26:59 Chris What did you think, Lee?

27:00 Lee Yeah, it it really reminded me of the Chilling Adventures of Sabrina, it was a very like, it was it was quite tiny and quite.

27:07 Chris Yeah, yeah.

27:09 Lee It was fantasy enough to not feel too horror for people, as you say, who who wouldn't generally go to horror.

27:14 Lee But it definitely had one foot planted in that.

27:15 Lee I mean the big the big again, not to spoil it.

27:18 Lee But the big monster.

27:19 Chris Yeah.

27:20 Chris Yeah.

27:21 Lee It like, but I I got the impression it was badly CGI on purpose so that you couldn't be too scared of it because it looked slightly ridiculous.

27:29 Chris Yeah, I sort of took that to be somewhat of the cartoonish aspect, so yeah, the whole thing felt a little bit surreal.

27:35 Chris And almost not trying to be too real in that sense.

27:38 Chris yeah, a little bit over the top.

27:39 Chris But yeah, you know, there's comedy in there, there's drama in there, some horror.

27:42 Lee Oh, the end got full on horror.

27:43 Lee Like again in a teen friendly way.

27:46 Lee but yeah, like yeah, I I really enjoyed it, so we got through it in like a week or so.

27:53 Lee I tell you the only reason I started watching it is because I saw so many memes of people doing her dance.

27:57 Lee Which is absolutely amazing and I love that.

28:00 Chris It is, yeah, yeah.

28:01 Chris Okay.

28:02 Lee that I was like, yeah, got to check this out.

28:05 Lee I was like, I need to watch this because it if you know, if there's going to be memes and stuff coming out at this rate, something's going to get spoil or whatever.

28:11 Lee So I figured, right, I'm going to knuckle down and watch it.

28:14 Lee yeah, and I I as you say, same as you, I I enjoyed it, I thought it was entertaining, yeah, plenty of twists and turns, it was funny, yeah, and it was just good, easy, easy watching, really.

28:20 Chris It did.

28:23 Chris Yeah, absolutely.

28:24 Lee Cool.

28:26 Lee my next choice, came from so I I as I've said before, I never normally listen back to any of our episodes, but I was in the car listening to another podcast and it rolled into a random one of our episodes and it was our Goth episode.

28:36 Chris

28:37 Adam Oh, yes.

28:38 Lee and one of the questions that we had was on the film Brotherhood of the Wolf.

28:43 Adam Oh, yes.

28:45 Lee so I purchased it was about November, I re-heard that episode.

28:50 Lee So I bought it for Lady Jennifer for Christmas.

28:53 Lee and we we rewatched it the other day.

28:56 Lee well we didn't rewatch it, so we watched it for the first time.

28:59 Lee yeah, I didn't realize it was French.

29:01 Adam Oh, yeah, sorry.

29:02 Adam I should have mentioned that.

29:03 Lee No, no.

29:04 Lee It didn't spoil it at all.

29:05 Lee It was just watching and I was like, oh, it's all dubbed.

29:09 Lee yeah, what a good film.

29:12 Lee It was it was a a big.

29:14 Lee The twist in it was good and there were a few of them.

29:18 Lee

29:20 Lee Yeah, and again, really solid performances.

29:21 Lee I really had a really good time with it.

29:24 Lee I mean when we first put it on and it came up 2 hours and 22 minutes, I was like, oh God, this is going to be.

29:28 Adam Subtitled film.

29:29 Adam From 2001.

29:30 Lee Yeah.

29:31 Lee Oh, no, that one was dubbed.

29:32 Adam Oh, right.

29:32 Lee The one I had was dubbed.

29:34 Lee which is why it took me a while to realize that it wasn't in English because of course they've got them coats up over their face.

29:40 Lee So you can't see the mouths moving.

29:41 Lee So I took about 10 minutes and then I was like, oh, hang on a minute, they're not talking English, this is all in French.

29:46 Adam Oh.

29:48 Lee But oh, yeah, what a a fun film, loads of action in it.

29:52 Lee The the action and stuff was really, really good.

29:57 Lee yeah, I love the premise of it, the way that it's it's sort of every time it opened up a bit more.

30:03 Lee There there was more more people involved and there were more secrets and it was all a much bigger thing than anyone realized.

30:10 Lee yeah, and I I had a really good time watching it.

30:12 Lee I thoroughly enjoyed it as did Lady Jennifer.

30:15 Lee So yeah, so I'm glad that question came up and I'm glad that Adam knew the film.

30:18 Lee And managed to sell us on it.

30:20 Lee Because it was a really entertaining couple of hours.

30:22 Adam It is really, really cool.

30:24 Adam Great, great film, I'd forgotten how I'd forgotten it was that long.

30:28 Lee Yeah.

30:29 Lee And it's such a lovely looking film as well, like it looks so nice.

30:32 Lee I know it shot in old France, so it's lots of powdered wigs and many makeup and stuff.

30:37 Lee but like the sets and everything just look really nice, it really reminded me of the the bit from Hellraiser Bloodline.

30:42 Lee You know when they go back to Old France with the make of the box.

30:45 Adam Oh.

30:45 Lee Yeah, so it really reminded me of that.

30:46 Lee It was very good.

30:47 Lee right, our timer is ticking away.

30:49 Lee We have seven minutes.

30:50 Lee So we're going to do one each and we're going to do them for two minutes.

30:53 Lee Adam, go.

30:54 Adam This is going to be hard because it's called Tomorrow I'll Wake Up and Score Myself with Tea.

30:57 Adam It's a sci-fi comedy in which actually that is going to be far too fucking involved.

31:00 Adam it's a sci-fi comedy in which time travel is available as a commercial thing.

31:05 Adam And a group of Nazis decide to go back in time and give Hitler a nuclear bomb.

31:12 Adam But it's funny.

31:13 Lee Yeah.

31:14 Adam It's funny.

31:14 Adam And but also but also has a weird sort of light swap comedy because basically it's the one the one bloke who's going to take them has got a twin brother.

31:23 Adam And then he chokes and then the twin brother decides to assume his identity because he has a much better life than him.

31:29 Adam And then has to help a group of Nazis go back in time.

31:31 Adam And give Hitler a nuclear bomb.

31:36 Adam and yeah.

31:37 Adam And apparently there was a fart at the start and I was fucking sold at that point.

31:39 Adam Because I just thought this is hilarious.

31:42 Adam Much better than this is Czechoslovakia by the way before someone fucking goes and does a brother.

31:45 Adam Of the Wolf.

31:47 Adam Yeah.

31:47 Adam But it's brilliant.

31:48 Adam Yeah.

31:49 Lee Excellent.

31:49 Lee That does sound like fun.

31:51 Lee Chris, you next.

31:52 Chris Mine's not as funny as that.

31:54 Chris Or as crazy as that.

31:54 Chris But I was really impressed with it.

31:56 Chris It was a bit random, I was suggested it from someone.

31:58 Chris It's called Barbarian and I'll give the quick summary.

32:00 Chris In a town for a job interview, a young woman arrives at her Airbnb rental late at night, only to find that the house has been mistakenly double booked and a strange man is already staying there.

32:07 Chris Against her better judgment, she decides to stay the night anyway.

32:10 Chris But soon discovers that there is much more to be afraid of in the house than the other house guests.

32:15 Chris And that does sum it up pretty good without giving too much away, the actors, Georgina Campbell, Bill Skarsgard, and Justin Long.

32:20 Lee Oh, that's a good cast.

32:21 Chris I.

32:21 Chris Oh, yeah.

32:21 Chris Yeah.

32:22 Chris I liked the acting.

32:23 Chris I liked the story.

32:24 Chris It was uncomfortable.

32:26 Chris It was good dialogue.

32:27 Chris It set me up for the twists that I didn't expect.

32:30 Chris And it was also hard hitting.

32:33 Chris And there was some social commentary, which I thought was fine.

32:36 Chris You could potentially ignore it.

32:37 Chris and there's still, you know, potentially great horror film there.

32:39 Chris So, yeah, overall, I really enjoyed it.

32:41 Adam I've seen a lot of people really rate that.

32:44 Chris And.

32:44 Adam My my favorite quote from someone was.

32:47 Adam This is a film that has no right being as good as it is.

32:50 Chris Yes, well.

32:52 Chris Shit.

32:53 Lee Which we haven't said anything about since anything like that about since Tag's killing, so there you go.

32:58 Lee That's how good it is.

32:59 Chris Yeah.

33:00 Lee Put it on a good peg in.

33:02 Chris Yeah.

33:03 Chris Definitely.

33:04 Lee I caught up, my last one, I caught up with the Pale Blue Eye on Netflix.

33:09 Chris Oh.

33:10 Lee the Christian Bale movie, it's set sort of turn it was no, it's set earlier than that.

33:16 Lee it it's basically old sort of colonial.

33:20 Lee US it's set in 1830, there we go.

33:23 Lee and he is a detective who's been brought in to look into some possibly occult murders at a military Academy.

33:31 Lee And one of the boys at the Academy is Edgar Allan Poe.

33:33 Lee So he brings him in to help him.

33:37 Lee and Edgar Allan Poe is played by the annoying fat cousin from Harry Potter.

33:41 Lee He has lost a shit ton of weight and he now looks like Edgar Allan Poe.

33:44 Lee It's really weird.

33:46 Adam Oh, right.

33:47 Lee But.

33:47 Lee Yeah, I thought it was really good.

33:48 Lee It's also it's got oh, it's got loads of people you'd know as well Adam from it let me just find him, Simon McBurney is in it, Timothy Spall is in it, Toby Jones is in it.

33:59 Adam Oh, nice, yeah.

34:00 Lee So it's got a very British cast.

34:02 Adam I'm I'm getting a feel for what sort of a film it is with that car.

34:04 Lee Yeah, it is.

34:05 Lee Yeah, so Harry Melling is the guy who was in Harry Potter.

34:09 Lee I'm fairly certain that is him, I am going to check it now that I've said it.

34:12 Lee Just in case it isn't.

34:13 Lee But yeah.

34:13 Lee I thought it was really good, I yeah, it is him, yeah, definitely, excellent.

34:19 Lee Yeah, I had a really good time with it.

34:21 Lee It was a it was quite dark.

34:23 Lee It felt a bit like if I had to liken it to something, I'd say it's like Sleepy Hollow without the comedy.

34:27 Adam Oh, right.

34:27 Adam Okay.

34:27 Lee It's that sort of feel.

34:28 Chris That's potentially very good.

34:30 Chris Still.

34:30 Lee Yeah, yeah.

34:31 Lee It's yeah, it was fairy taley sort of.

34:31 Adam Fairy taley sort of atmosphere.

34:34 Lee Yeah, exactly that, but it's got that kind of Sherlock Holmesy type feel.

34:36 Lee As well from the work he's doing.

34:38 Lee yeah, couple of really big twists.

34:40 Lee And yeah, just a really enjoyable watch.

34:41 Lee It kept coming up and I was like, I've not heard anything about it.

34:42 Lee Nobody's talked about it.

34:44 Lee It's been out since the 6th of January.

34:45 Lee So it might be a turd, but it wasn't, it was good, so excellent.

34:49 Chris Excellent.

34:51 Lee Right, that's what we've been watching.

34:52 Lee Well, that's what we've been watching, but the rest you shall have to wait for.

34:55 Lee and we will be back in a fortnight's time for Class of Nukem High.

35:00 Adam Yeah.

35:01 Lee Ye.

35:01 Lee But beginning of trauma month, I cannot wait.

35:04 Lee

35:05 Lee I've already watched.

35:06 Lee My Bloody Banjo and I cannot wait for you guys to watch it.

35:07 Lee So we can discuss it.

35:10 Lee Sha't give away any more than that.

35:11 Chris Keep watching.

35:13 Lee Right.

35:14 Lee thanks ever so much for listening everybody.

35:16 Lee Go and check out all of our friends.

35:18 Lee so not for everyone podcast, and, as you unexplained.

35:20 Adam Oh.

35:22 Lee And all of those lovely people, Eerie Essex, still going strong, loving that.

35:27 Lee yeah, thanks very much for listening.

35:28 Lee And good night.

35:29 Chris Good night.

35:30 Adam Go watch trauma.