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Welcome To Horror Presents: “The Bride of We Have Been Watching”. It’s time for our first regular round up of what we’ve been sticking into our eye balls outside of our regularly scheduled programming. In this episode we discuss Series 4 Part 1 of “Stranger Things”, “Starship Troopers”, “Morbius”, “Don’t Hug Me I’m Scared”, “The House In Nightmare Park”, Nigel Kneale’s anthology series “Beasts”, “They Live”, “Shepherd”, “Halo” the TV series and “Inside No.9”. We also draw our 2 films for July’s audience recommendation month, so tune in to see if your suggestion is one of the lucky ones selected. Beware of spoilers and swearing and join us!
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Lee
LeeGood evening and welcome to Horror. I'm Lee.
ChrisI'm Chris.
AdamI'm Adam.
LeeAnd we are here for the all-new, exciting, new format, of the show. So this is going to be our what we've been watching, where we are going to discuss the things that we've been watching and not have to try and rush it into the beginning of the episode.
Leealso I don't know how horror it's all going to stay. We're going to do our best, but we shall see.
Leebut in exciting news before that, Adam has been working his little socks off, collecting up all of your listener requests for listener request month.
Lee
AdamExcellent.
LeeAnd putting them all onto a massive, he's got I know you can't see it because it's a podcast, right, but he's got a huge two-foot wheel behind him with all of the films all pinned to it.
LeeAnd one of those magical spinning board things like they used to have on Wheel of Fortune, and he's going to do that for us live on air right now to choose the film.
LeeSo Adam,
LeeOver to you in the studio.
Adam
AdamYes, that's right, folks. I'm here in my gold lame jacket and we've got have have we got films for you.
AdamSo,
AdamJust to let everyone know, the films that we have had, the films that suggestions for the films to watch,
AdamWe had 100 Monsters from Claire.
AdamThe Asfix from, Mos Eisley Happy Hour, Mos Eisley Happy Hour's very own Westley.
LeeRight.
AdamJoe Watson came in with Braindead.
LeeClassic.
AdamAdam Law came in with The Company of Wolves.
LeeOoh.
AdamBobby of the Not For Everyone podcast asked for Horror Express.
LeeOh.
Adamformer guest Manny asked for Malignant.
LeeOoh.
AdamUncle Dave asked for The Pit and the Pendulum.
LeeOh.
LeeAmazing.
Adamformer guest Dean asked for The Toxic Avenger.
LeeYes.
AdamAnd Ledbelt Art asked for Wild Zero.
AdamSo, that is a,
ChrisNice.
LeeWell I think,
ChrisIt is that is a very good list.
ChrisBut I'm pretty sure I only recognize Braindead, you know, it's I sort of have a sense you might have mentioned some of these before.
ChrisI can remember a very long time ago, Lee, you might have talked about The Toxic Avenger.
LeeYes, I I love those Troma.
LeeAnd I we were going to watch,
LeeWe weren't going to watch Toxic Avenger, we were going to watch Class of Nuke 'Em High, wasn't it?
AdamYeah.
AdamYeah, that was that was that was that was part of the this the reason Dean suggested because it was like we haven't done any Troma yet.
AdamSo, you know, he wanted to get.
LeeYou know what, that is an amazing list.
LeeThere isn't a film in there that I wouldn't gladly watch.
LeeAnd the last one, I haven't even heard of.
LeeSo that's that's exciting, so I'll have to check that out.
AdamWild Zero, I've, I remember hearing about, I too have never seen it, but it's basically a a Japanese punk horror movie,
Adamabout a band who get involved with all kinds of weird nefariousnessnesses.
AdamSo, yes.
LeeI'm watching that.
AdamThat This Well, I mean, this is the thing. This could be a absolute Welcome to Horror, so well done.
AdamWell done, everyone.
AdamI'm just going to I'm just going to move on to my,
Adamwhere are we?
AdamGet on to my Dirty Wheel of Justice.
AdamAnd here we go.
AdamYep, we're loading now and,
AdamOh.
AdamYou've gone all the way down there, have you?
AdamAll right, that's typical.
AdamSo.
LeeI'm not going to complain.
Adam
AdamThere we go.
AdamRight.
AdamSo, and,
AdamFirst off, we've got,
AdamWhoa, Horror Express.
LeeHey.
AdamWhich, yep, so that is from.
ChrisSo it's.
AdamUncle Bobby over on the Not For Everyone.
AdamSo that is,
Adamthat will be, Cushing and Lee on a train with an alien Yeti that sucks your brains.
AdamAnd then, and then about two-thirds of the way in, Telis turns up and just steals the film.
AdamApparently from another film.
AdamSo, that should be.
AdamThat should be that that's one I thought we've been we've needed to cover at some point anyway.
AdamSo,
AdamAnd here we go with the second.
Adam
LeeBit RoboCop.
AdamThe Pit and the Pendulum.
LeeOh.
AdamSo that is Uncle Dave's suggestion.
AdamThe Pit and the Pendulum.
AdamNow,
AdamI would definitely say that thank you to everyone for your suggestions. Congratulations, Bobby. Congratulations, Dave.
ChrisI'm I'm just I just need to check though, The Pit and the Pendulum looks like there's a few different versions.
Adamhe asked for the Vincent Price, Roger Corman's.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisSo that's likely to be on the older.
Adam60.
ChrisI see, yep, yep.
Lee64, 63, 64.
Chris61, it looks like.
Adamokay.
AdamBut, yes.
AdamBut please be aware, folks, that all of your suggestions are definitely going to be going onto our list anyway.
AdamBecause,
LeeOh,
AdamThere's so there is so much good stuff there, you have suggested so many great films.
AdamAnd, I mean, for example, I mean, Joe Joe Watson came was the first one who came in and he asked for Braindead and it was like, shit, we haven't even done any Peter Jackson.
AdamAnd that is very that is very remiss to remind people that, oh, yeah, he's not just Lord of the Rings.
ChrisAlthough I mean, you could, you could probably get Lord of the Rings into horror.
ChrisIt's it's definitely got a lot of horror aspects to it.
LeeIt's closer to horror than some of the things I've got on the list that I might be watching.
Adam
AdamBut there we go. So, Horror Express and The Pit and the Pendulum will be our,
Adamepisodes coming up in July.
AdamAnd like I say, no doubt the remain the remaining seven will also be coming up because, yeah.
AdamThey are some crackers there.
AdamReally are.
LeeThank you so much to everyone who reached out to us, we, yeah, we we really appreciate it.
LeeWe said, let's do listener request month.
LeeAnd then off there, we suddenly went, hope we get some requests. We look really stupid if no one said.
Adam
LeeAnd then we have to start.
LeeThey're all on holiday this week.
LeeWe're fucked.
Lee
AdamThen we just have to start putting in different things then just putting in false ones ourselves.
AdamSo, this was this was suggested by P. Lota.
AdamAnd Ted has come up with this one.
LeeFantastic suggestion from Kempston joystick there.
Adam
AdamAnd and Chris, we did see your suggestion for Requiem For A Dream.
AdamI would like to say that we are banned because we are not technically audience, so we can't request.
AdamBut equally, it's Requiem For A Dream, mate.
AdamIt ain't it ain't happening.
ChrisI was thinking that wasn't the only reason it was banned.
Adam
AdamTo quote, to quote John Water's dad, it was good, but I'm glad I never have to watch it again.
Adam
LeeGod, yeah, I'd agree with that.
LeeRight.
LeeSo onto onto this evening's, what we've been watching.
Leewhat we're going to do is we are going to go in a circular fashion.
Leeso what we'll do is we'll start with, go on, Chris.
LeeYou sound like you're going to.
ChrisI was just thinking more triangular, but yeah.
LeeWhat what I meant was, we're not going to take, you know, I'm not going to do all my films and then Adam, what we're going to do is,
LeeChris is going to do a film or a watch, and then Adam is going to do a watch, and then I will do a watch, and we will go around until the timer runs out or, yeah, we all get bored.
ChrisYeah.
LeeOh yeah.
LeeThere we go.
ChrisWe've fallen asleep.
AdamThis sounds not unlike a threat.
AdamIt's like, we we will shoot a villager on the hour, every hour.
AdamYou until you either acquiesce to our demands or we run out of villagers.
LeeOh, that's a point. Squid Game didn't even make it onto my list.
LeeI watched all of that this week.
LeeAnd it was bloody good.
Lee
AdamOh, it's a it's a cracker.
AdamAlso,
AdamOh my God, poor bloody alley.
LeeYeah.
AdamPoor alley.
LeeOh.
LeeOh, but yeah.
LeeGreat.
LeeNo.
LeeSo.
LeeSorry, yes.
LeeSo, we won't get into that.
LeeSo,
LeeChris.
ChrisOh, I get to go first.
ChrisAll right, I'm I'm launching off with my biggest watch, probably, out of this list.
ChrisSo,
ChrisI'm going to say,
ChrisI've been running up that hill.
ChrisAnd not not just because I've just visited Wales and they have really quite large hills.
ChrisAlso known as mountains.
ChrisI've actually been watching Stranger Things and yeah, also listening to a lot of that song until I realized the entire world had went mad on that song and it got into like number one.
ChrisAnd somehow that put me off a little bit.
ChrisI feel like I can't join in with everyone.
ChrisAnyway.
AdamJust like me, mate.
AdamYou can't.
ChrisI know, I know.
ChrisI actually thought that, I actually felt like I am channeling Adam here.
Chris
Chris
Chris
Chris
Chris
Chris
Chris
Chris
Chris
ChrisBut yeah, so, so Stranger Things season four, I I was a little hesitant at first.
ChrisI was like, oh, is it going to be as good?
ChrisNow, I think some people perhaps didn't like season two and three as much as season one, I mean, season one did just, you know, blast out of nowhere.
ChrisAnd grab us all by its 80s aesthetic and pretty original story, really.
Chriswhile also lots of nods to, you know, previous films and especially, and there's this is where I had real hesitation with this.
ChrisBecause Robert England is in it and have we mentioned spoilers?
LeeOh, no.
AdamOh, yes. Spoilers are swearing.
AdamYeah.
LeeDon't take them all from.
ChrisYeah, so, so yeah, I thought, oh, are they going to pull that off a a Freddy.
ChrisLike, how close is it going to be to Freddy?
Chrisand yeah,
ChrisI would say fantastic job once again blending horror with adventure.
Chriscomedy.
Chrisan amazing 80s feel, great style, excellent acting.
ChrisAgain, lots of children who are getting older now.
Chrisbut still, they've all got the charm.
LeeYeah, we we said the same.
LeeSo, so we've just watched it as well.
LeeYeah, and it is it is far more horror than any of the previous seasons.
ChrisYeah.
LeeBut we think that.
LeeIt was it's only season four, but when it because of their age, when it flashes back to them in season one, my God, they look young.
ChrisYeah.
LeeHow they've changed so much in four years, but I suppose going from, you know, some preteen to mid-teen.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisDefinitely.
ChrisIt can be a big difference.
ChrisYeah.
Chrisbut yeah, you know, so and one of the other things that I sort of noticed going through, I guess they really made it clear towards the end was this, idea of sort of who is good and who's bad.
ChrisAnd that's especially the case with 11 in that she's really trying to figure out who is she, so it's it's sort of like a hero's journey.
ChrisBut does it turn out that she's actually, you know, just evil?
ChrisAnd she just doesn't remember properly.
LeeI've just realized, sorry, I've just remembered of course, we are two episodes behind in the UK. Are we still two episodes behind?
LeeSo it's nine it's nine episodes in the season, I believe, and it only put seven of them up on Netflix.
LeeThey released it.
LeeThey released.
ChrisYeah, well,
LeeLike in the US, so there's two more episodes to come.
LeeSo if you've seen the end, don't tell me because I'm still on seven episodes.
ChrisNo, no, yeah, I'm on seven.
ChrisBut I thought I just saw earlier it said something like, sort of sneak preview of Volume Two.
ChrisComing out on I think 2nd of July.
LeeYeah, yeah.
LeeSo that's what I mean, so they released it all in the you they released the first seven episodes and held back the last two episodes.
LeeI think there's only two more.
ChrisBut they're calling it Volume Two and it's just two episodes.
ChrisOkay.
LeePossibly, I think there's only two more on IMDB when I look, that might have changed.
Lee
LeeBut, but yeah, that was a bit annoying.
LeeSo America got the whole thing in one go.
LeeAnd then they,
ChrisYeah.
LeeAnd I was like,
Leewell, luckily I don't go on social media much anymore, otherwise I would probably have had it spoiled, but.
Chrisbut yeah, yeah, so I I definitely liked this this sort of thread of of what's good and evil.
ChrisAnd you know,
ChrisI mean, they did even with say with Lucas joining the sort of jocks and he's he's trying to decide, oh, you know,
Chrislike, these respect me, these think a lot of me, whereas my friends are not quite.
ChrisAnd especially with, Max, you know, because she's obviously going for a lot of difficulties.
ChrisSo, yeah, that's sort of growing up and yeah, where do I fit in, what what decisions do I need to make, who do I side with?
Chrisoh, and particularly, what's his name, Paul Riser from Aliens, he played Burke in Aliens.
LeeOh, yes.
Chris
ChrisYeah, and and he is.
ChrisRiser, okay.
Chrisand he's he's evil in that, although you don't realize it until it's sort of unfolds and he's getting worse and worse, pretty much.
ChrisAnd so, yeah, in this, I wasn't entirely sure, at first I thought, well, yeah, he seems like he's being good, but then it's not entirely clear then he argues with Brenner.
ChrisAnd it just, yeah, I I thought there was a lot in it that held my attention.
ChrisAnd yeah, and nice little twists and some fantastic scenes.
ChrisSo, excellent, I I hope they carry on and do a season five.
LeeExcellent.
LeeYeah.
LeeI I I say I am in total agreement.
LeeI,
Leeyeah, I I really enjoyed it.
LeeI definitely found it way more horror than the previous seasons.
ChrisYeah.
LeeBut yeah, I think that like you say, Chris, I think they've they've gone back almost to that first season where they've kind of got all the balance right.
LeeOf like the comedy and the horror and there's enough character development.
LeeAnd it all just sits so nicely.
Lee
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah, it's just so and all the as you say, like with Lucas, was like bringing the new characters in, they fit in so well, nobody's like, oh, we've known these people for ages.
LeeAnd they're just, they're just.
ChrisOh, we need to bolt on a few more, yeah.
LeeBut yeah, like they all just come together so nicely, so brilliantly written.
Leeyeah.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisAbsolutely.
LeeWith the Kate Bush.
ChrisYeah.
AdamExcellent.
LeeAdam.
LeeWhat would you like to talk about?
Adamwell, first up is one that was actually, something that was a recommendation from Chris.
LeeOh.
Adamso I have finally watched, and let's face it, this is going to sound quite sometime now.
AdamBut I have finally seen 1997's Starship Troopers.
AdamSo,
Adam
AdamYes, because we were talking about, I think it came up when we were talking about, Tokyo Gore Police.
AdamAnd we were saying about the the sort of.
ChrisOh, yeah.
AdamYou know, like the side bits and the cheerleading.
AdamThat felt a bit like.
AdamRoboCop and then you mentioned about the Starship Troopers.
AdamSo, yes.
AdamSo it was, it was cheap on Blu-ray at Sainsbury's, so I thought I'll have.
AdamExcellent.
AdamYeah.
AdamSo I thought I'll have that.
Adamand, yeah,
Adamthat's I mean, I can now, because.
AdamI never saw it because I think a lot of people had sort of said it it wasn't.
AdamGory didn't put me off, because.
AdamGory doesn't put me off.
ChrisYeah.
AdamBut I think there were a lot of I think there was a lot of sort of thing where it was like, oh, this is just nasty for nasty sake and everything.
AdamAnd it's like, no, I just don't think that the people who are watching it have watched many gory films.
ChrisYeah.
AdamAnd also,
Adamyou know, and and weirdly enough, actually, one thing I will say with it is that sort of set both effects wise.
AdamAnd I mean, obviously, it's majority CGI.
AdamBut it still actually stands up quite well, you know, it's not sort of.
ChrisI wonder if that's because they're all style.
ChrisDoes have that sort of humor layer within it.
AdamYeah.
AdamBecause that that was the thing I got watching it is is I still I think there's a.
AdamIt's a weird one because I think there is the what I can only describe as the L. Murray the pub landlord effect.
AdamInasmuch as I think there's a lot of people who watched it and got the satire of like, you know, oh, here's America going to war.
AdamWell, the Earth, but let's face it, it's America going to war.
ChrisYeah.
AdamAnd the fact that it's sort of begets a a very high level of fascism within yourself to be jingoistic about war.
AdamBut then I think there are a lot of people who were just like, yeah, USA, We're Earth.
AdamWho were just quite into it.
AdamIt's like, yeah, we would go and kick those fucking slimy bugs' asses.
AdamAnd we would, yeah, because we would be heroes.
AdamAnd, yeah, I think it sort of verges on that sort of level of confusion where it's like it sort of I'm not sure if the satire works entirely because I'm pretty sure there's a few people who read it as a straight.
AdamAction film.
LeeYeah, yeah.
AdamYou know.
Adambut I mean, it was, I mean, I really, yeah.
AdamI really, I mean, good cast. I mean, it was wonderful to see Michael Ironside and even I cheered when Michael Ironside turned up with a fox arm as leading the troops, you know, and even though it was like the most sort of like crappy like war like jingoistic war film sort of element.
AdamBecause of that removed, because it's set in space and everything, you know, it sort of it I but I still was like, hey, my license turned up.
AdamHe will kill them.
AdamAnd, and obviously Clancy Brown and so on and so forth.
AdamBut I think,
Adamyeah, I was actually I was really surprised sort of like I say that visually it stood up really well.
Adameven to this day.
AdamAnd, yeah.
AdamNo, I really enjoyed it and also there's a Bowie cover in there, which I was really shocked about.
AdamBecause they're the prom, there's a cover of, I have not been to Oxford town.
AdamBut they they I think they I have not been to Paradise or something like that, and but yeah.
ChrisOkay.
AdamWhich would have which which at the time would have only been two years old.
AdamSo it was quite a sort of interesting little moment.
ChrisI'll have to listen to that song and then rewatch it again just to fully appreciate that.
AdamBut,
Adamyeah, no, I thought that, you know, I think that it sort of it was definitely, like, like I say, a fantastic parody of a war movie.
AdamOr, for those who of who want that.
AdamA jingoistic war movie.
LeeWell.
ChrisYeah, quite possibly for for for for a certain amount of Americans.
ChrisDefinitely would be.
AdamI I don't I don't think that's exclusively America.
AdamWell, no.
AdamI don't want to back.
AdamI don't want to stick to bashing them.
AdamBecause there's there are plenty of people out there who no doubt do such things.
AdamAnd well, I saw someone had, someone that I follow on Instagram who'd put put up a picture of, Boris Johnson on a bus stop with just this man is wanted for.
AdamCrimes against humanity and everything and someone had written.
AdamAnd someone had felt the need to write underneath it in, in marker pen, no, fuck off, he's a fucking legend.
AdamAnd you like, yeah, in the same way that, I don't know, fucking Rumpelstiltskin's a legend.
AdamYou know, see the horrible little goblin people.
AdamBut, you know, it's sort of,
AdamBut I digress.
AdamSo, but yeah, I, so thank you, Chris, because that was like it was one of those ones where it's.
AdamSkirted around ever sort of watch.
AdamAnd I was like, well, no, Chris definitely, you know, Chris has said that he enjoyed it.
AdamAnd we were talking about like RoboCop and stuff.
AdamAnd everything.
ChrisYeah, when that.
ChrisYeah, once you'd said that and I realized that made a lot more sense, particularly with the adverts.
ChrisBut it it it definitely captures a potential future for us.
AdamOh, well, I'm not even sure if it's a potential future now.
AdamI think it's just I think it predicted now, unfortunately.
Adamand actually the war the war correspondent bits are just.
AdamFantastic just because it's the whole thing because it's it's the classic I mean we've as a side order to all this, one of the thing that I've been consistently watching lately is, I've been showing clear drop the Dead Donkey.
AdamAnd just rewatching that, and that show, again,
Adamapart from the technology that's used in it, really stands up, it's still funny, it's still works as a comedy show and everything else like that.
AdamBut it does have that element of Damian's repulsion the Day X day, where it's from, from the,
Adamlike on location where it's just those things of like, we're here alive and the bug and then the bloke just gets a fucking scorpions tail through him and stuff like that.
AdamAnd also,
AdamI do I do like a film that does have an unapologetic level of because that's the thing.
AdamAgain, I don't know what the business was because I can understand why it was offputting for people.
AdamBecause they were probably like, I think a lot of people might have read it the other way of like, this is just a jingoistic war film with.
AdamAnd it's really gross.
AdamAnd it's like, yeah, you're not quite got the point.
AdamBut wasn't it funny that bloke but his brain's blown out, you know, that's just.
AdamThat's why it's like, come on.
AdamCome on, people line up.
AdamSo, so thank you, Chris.
AdamThat was a good recommendation.
ChrisYou're very welcome.
LeeExcellent.
Leemy first choice.
LeeI'm going to mention I mentioned it very briefly, you know, a previous episode because I had a little bit of a rant about it, but I'm going to do it again anyway.
Leeso Morbius.
LeeI finally caught up with.
ChrisOh.
Lee
LeeYeah.
AdamLet's get Morbin'.
LeeYeah, this film was problematic for me.
Lee
ChrisYou don't have to give a quick summary.
ChrisBecause I don't I just know it's Marvel.
LeeYes, so it isn't full-on Marvel.
LeeIt's like the Venom.
ChrisOkay.
LeeIt's the same people that Venom stuff.
LeeSo it's.
AdamIt's the it's Sony, Sony owns certain ones.
ChrisRight.
ChrisOkay.
ChrisThat's not the MCU.
LeeNo.
AdamIt's not the Marvel in the queue that like Disney affiliated well, Disney owned Marvel in the queue. No, this is Sony's like you say, I think Venom and Morbius about it really.
AdamOh, and Ghost Rider, I think then.
Leebut I I really enjoyed the Venom movies.
LeeSo I was quite looking forward to this.
Lee
Leebut it just fell apart at every.
LeeAnd the problem is,
Leeit made me feel really hypocritical because I I have become one of those people.
LeeI know we were talking previously off air about how little I hate leaving the house for longer than a couple of hours.
LeeAnd yet like the cinema has become part of that, it's like, oh my God, every time a film comes out, it's got to be at least three hours long and blah.
LeeSo when this came out and it was an hour and 45 minutes, I was like, lovely.
LeeIn two a story, get.
LeeBut it just felt rushed, it felt like, right, and then he does this, and then he does that, and then he goes to this place, and then and I was just like,
Leejust slow down, take a break, but because they had to squeeze it all into an hour and 45.
LeeIt was just rushed.
LeeAnd it was just scene in the scene, and I was like, just just let something sit for a bit, like, let me get my head around what's just happened before you jump into the neck.
Lee
LeeYeah, so that didn't work.
Leeas I said before, Matt Smith, for some reason, it was it was like they said to him,
Leewe can't decide on delivery, so what we'd like you to do is every, can you try and deliver all your lines like like Stephen Fry, for example, and then on every third one, can you be Dick Van Dyke from Mary Poppins.
LeeAnd that is what his delivery was like.
LeeThe whole way through.
LeeAnd I was like,
Leeapart of me it was like, is this supposed to be like, like a like a not schizophrenic, but like is it multiple personalities?
LeeLike.
LeeIs someone in posh?
AdamIs it reflecting like changes in him, like mood swings or something?
LeeYeah, but no.
LeeIt was just so you couldn't pick.
AdamNo, it's just he he kept he kept forgetting he was meant to be Right Winston.
LeeYeah.
LeeExactly.
LeeYeah.
LeeAnd just and oh, it was just so like it got to the point it got through annoying to the point where I stopped paying any attention to the film and was just laughing at his performance terribly.
LeeSo, sorry, Matt Smith, I I know you're you've done some great stuff, but this isn't one of them.
Lee
AdamTo be to be honest, outside of Doctor Who, I haven't heard a great deal of praise for a lot of the stuff he's done.
LeeYeah, it's a shame.
AdamSo that that might have just been his key, like, he might have found his niche at 27.
AdamAnd he's now going to have to spend the next 50 years with people going, it's just not that, is it?
AdamSo.
LeeYeah, it's a shame.
Leeyeah, and I just I found that like the whole superpowers and what happens if he does drink blood.
LeeAnd what happens if he doesn't drink like the whole thing was just really ill-defined and chaotic.
LeeSo, yeah, I just thought and again, I I sat and watched the whole thing and then two days later I brought it up on IMDB and I went, oh, yeah, Michael Keaton was in it.
LeeLike, I just forgot an entire section of the film.
LeeIt was just really badly because it rushed like all the kind of sideish stories were all just crammed in.
LeeRight, quick, quick, get through that.
LeeGet through that.
LeeSo you just forgot all about him.
LeeAnd it so you when you boiled it down, you were like, so he invented a thing and then he did a thing and then it killed some people.
LeeIn credits.
LeeAnd I was like, oh.
LeeSo, yeah, not a fan of that.
LeeBut.
LeeIt's fine, they tried something new.
LeeI'm not upset with it.
AdamBut there is a thing going around at the moment where it's just Jared Leto saying,
Adamit's impressive that you've managed to be in the worst of the DC and the Marvel films.
AdamSo.
LeeIt is true.
LeeAnd the thing is, like, I don't think he's a terrible actor.
LeeI just I don't know.
AdamHe's just terrible person.
LeeThat's why it could that could be it.
LeeI don't know anything about.
AdamBut then, you know, we we we we can praise Tom Cruise's performance.
AdamJust just damn him in real life.
AdamYeah.
LeeYeah.
Leeoh, speaking of which, I can't wait to see the new Top Gun.
LeeBecause I've heard some really good things about it.
LeeBut I haven't yet.
LeeSo.
LeeSo it's not on my.
LeeWhat I've been watching.
ChrisIt it took me, when did the original Top Gun come out sometime in the 80s?
Lee80s, early 80s.
Adam85.
ChrisOkay.
ChrisI didn't watch it.
ChrisTill like 2015, I think.
LeeI saw it six years ago for the first time.
ChrisDid you?
LeeBut I've not gone back and rewatched it.
LeeBut I am going to.
ChrisIt was way better than I expected.
LeeYeah, yeah, me too.
LeeI think, but I am definitely going to back-to-back when the new one comes out on Blu-ray or streaming, whichever comes out first.
LeeI once I've got my hands on it, I will definitely be rewatching the original first and then the following night.
LeeI'll watch the new one.
LeeAdam doesn't look like he's going to even consider that.
ChrisDoes it follow on then?
ChrisI I imagined it was a retelling.
AdamNo, no, no, it's Tom Cruise.
AdamAnd it is a sequel.
LeeOh.
ChrisOkay.
ChrisOkay.
AdamHe's actually playing.
ChrisFair enough.
AdamThe same character.
AdamAnd, yeah.
AdamThank you, Maverick.
Lee
Adam
AdamExcellent.
LeeSorry, yes, sorry, Chris, I keep trying to hand over to you.
LeeAnd then,
AdamSorry.
LeeAnd then, it's me as well, it's fine.
LeeChris.
Chris
ChrisWouldn't it be funny if if one of these files came alive?
ChrisI am a file and you put documents in me do do do do I file.
ChrisYou you know, if it did a song.
ChrisNo, that sounds very boring.
Chris
LeeWhat is happen.
LeeHave you been doing Don't Hug Me?
ChrisYes.
AdamHe has.
ChrisFunnily enough, though, I did actually watch it, it was about like a day or two before, if one of you posted that it's been picked up by I think Channel 4.
AdamYeah, yeah.
ChrisSo I'm assuming are they are they actually just going to release the six episodes on Channel 4 then?
AdamI think they're doing I think they're doing new stuff.
AdamBecause I know.
ChrisOh, okay.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisWell that'd be good.
AdamI know that they'd post I think they'd like the, oh, I can't can't think of the.
AdamCreator's name for the life of me.
AdamBecky.
ChrisBecky, yeah.
ChrisI've got Becky.
Adam
Chris
AdamYeah.
Adam
Adambut, yeah, she'd posted that, they were working on new material quite a while back.
ChrisBecky Sloan, Joseph Pilling, Baker Terry.
Adam
AdamThat's it.
AdamYeah.
Adambut yeah, she said that she they said they were working on, like new episodes quite a while back.
AdamAnd then, yeah, saw this in the last couple of weeks and it's like, ooh, okay.
AdamSo I presume it's going to be this this sort of like new stuff but additional to what they've already put out there.
AdamI don't know.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisThat's great.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisI I love it.
ChrisIt's,
Chrisis almost I like it more again each time I watch it.
ChrisJust I guess you see a bit more and it's not it's not as good like the first time you watch it, it is kind of confusing.
ChrisYou know, because you don't really know what to expect or what's going to happen.
ChrisBut, yeah, it's just it's it's great.
ChrisThey've captured some some great ideas.
AdamWhich is.
AdamSomething that I think has been like there was the recently, Inside Number Nine's latest series finished.
AdamAnd they had, an episode which featured like a public information film in it, and that blended into the psychosis of one of the protagonists.
AdamAnd it's sort of, and it had that same sort of feeling of Don't Hug Me I'm Scared where it's like, oh, this is something familiar, but now it's being distorted.
LeeYeah, yeah, we that episode, so I I'm still on my not drinking on the bandwagon, and I've been like three and a half months and we had a barbecue in the garden, a barbecue.
LeeSo we had a bonfire in the garden.
LeeAnd Jen said, we got some homemade cider.
LeeSo I was like, yeah, go on, let's have a drink.
LeeI'm going to have three months.
Lee
LeeSo chugged away through the cider, a couple of beers.
LeeCame indoors, and Jen said, oh, there's an episode of Inside Number Nine.
LeePut it on, yeah, it got about 10 seconds in, I went, yeah, I'm not watching this.
LeeLike, this is going to be one of those terrible.
LeeLike, ruins your evening ones, and I'm drunk for the first time in three months.
LeeI was like, nah, fuck this off.
LeeWe're not doing this.
AdamProbably a wise decision, to be honest.
AdamYeah.
LeeWe did go back to it the next night when I was sober, and I was like, I'm so glad that would have just.
AdamYeah.
LeeYeah.
LeeSo badly.
AdamWell, not only that, but also the trouble is by having that bad experience, you've then got it reflected on an episode which is otherwise absolutely fucking brilliant and so subtly done.
AdamWhat I liked about it is there wasn't.
AdamYou know precisely what's.
AdamWhat's going on in terms of like, you know, what has been going on with him and his dad and stuff like that.
AdamBut.
AdamThey didn't have to overdo that, they didn't have to put too much in or anything.
AdamAnd in a little off note, you know, there's the episode setting the classroom.
AdamThat was like, I think the second episode of this of the most recent series.
Adamif you look in the background, there's a wise old owl poster.
LeeOh, really?
AdamBut yeah.
AdamBut apparently, recent Steve had nothing to do with it, it was the set designers knew that they were doing wise old owl in something, so they made a wise old owl poster.
AdamTranslated the warning into Welsh and put it on the wall, and recent Steve only found it when they got to the set.
AdamAnd it was like, that must be pretty fucking terrific when you're, you know, the the creative team, everyone's so.
AdamLike into it that they're doing things like that that even they weren't aware of.
AdamAnd, yeah.
ChrisNow, I'm going to have to catch up with this because, winner of the the spin of horror film.
ChrisDave did put that in a comment something about a wise old owl for those, you know, who know about Inside Number Nine.
ChrisSo I'm going to have to watch this and see if I can piece together that cryptic.
LeeIt's it was again it was just a I know we're not.
LeeSorry, we're going off slightly.
LeeBut yeah, Inside Number Nine this season has been absolutely amazing.
Leeyeah.
LeeThat that episode and they do every now and again, they do throw in a really dark depressing episode, and they're always brilliantly done, but they are the ones that I go, I'm skipping that when I rewatch these things.
AdamThey they have their Requiem For A Dream moments.
ChrisYeah.
LeeChris's favorite Chris's highlight.
LeeSo you're.
ChrisYou're tempting me, I'm going to have to do this.
AdamSeriously, mate, Inside Number Nine is one of the finest and most consistent anthology series I have ever seen.
AdamAnd, you know, I I mean, and it's weird because I mean, I love the Twilight Zone, Black Mirror, Outer Limits, Tales of the Unexpected.
AdamShadows.
AdamAnd all these various ones where it's like all these great anthology series, but Inside Number Nine for a show that is written by two people.
AdamAnd essentially stars two people regularly is probably one of the best anthology shows in that's been, frankly.
AdamBecause I mean, you know, he genuinely and he genuinely can cut it.
ChrisIs it something.
ChrisLike because they do such extremes from funny to dark and then like you also said, they're very good at subtlety.
ChrisSo it sort of got such a mixture.
AdamYeah, it really really works.
AdamAnd the best thing about it is is that as in a weird way is you get away from that you get away from thinking about the twist.
AdamBecause the tongue.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisOkay.
AdamYeah, of the thing could be different sometimes it's a comedy, sometimes it's a really broad farce, sometimes it's witty, sometimes it's dark as fuck.
AdamYou know,
Adamand stuff that you wouldn't necessarily put next to each other.
AdamBut that but it has that.
AdamThat feeling of a really good like short story collection or something like that.
AdamYou know, where it's like you can.
AdamAnd.
AdamThere's a weird.
AdamThere's a sort of weird consistency, one of the things that about it is definitely the music.
LeeYeah.
Adam
Adambecause there's it's the guy who did, Christian Henson.
AdamWho did Triangle.
AdamAnd I hadn't actually joined it all together until we covered Triangle.
AdamBut, yeah, he he writes like he's done all the music for Inside Number Nine, but I've seen like heard interviews with him.
AdamAnd he's like,
AdamWell, what I do is is I try and get the the essence of the piece, but also sometimes I go into misdirection because I know that, you know, if you go into something putting big gothic horror sounds on it, but you're only going to reveal at the end that there's a supernatural element to this story.
AdamYou know,
Adamyou have to sort of in a weird way, you have to play the deceit game with them.
AdamBut I mean certainly I mean certainly I think it's even if we did it as an offshoot.
AdamYou know, I I would happily rewatch.
AdamAny of Inside Number Nine.
AdamSo it's definitely definitely worth checking out, Chris.
ChrisYeah.
LeeAmazing show.
LeeAlways.
Leesorry, and did we get into Inside Number Nine?
LeeThat wasn't any of my choice, was it?
AdamNo, it was from Don't Hug Me I'm Scared.
Lee
AdamWe got hugged.
AdamAnd scared and inside number nine turned up.
LeeYeah.
AdamIt happens.
LeeYeah.
LeeThat's fair.
Leeyes, and also on that, did you see I know I'm probably the only one who's excited by this and I'm probably on a list somewhere for being a 40-year-old man who's excited by this, but the trailer for Hocus Pocus 2 dropped yesterday and I'm excited about that.
AdamTo be.
AdamTo be honest, I think I think you're in the age range that is the most excited about that.
LeeYeah.
AdamBecause I I don't know if the I don't know if the the the much younger generation are that aware.
AdamTo be honest.
LeeOh, right.
AdamBut yeah.
ChrisWas was Hocus Pocus mostly a comedy?
LeeYeah, it's it's a Disney Kids film.
LeeSet it out.
ChrisYeah, yeah.
ChrisI just I couldn't quite remember if it was like drama comedy.
ChrisBecause so I'd nearly started watching The Craft.
Lee
AdamThe remake or the the original.
ChrisI didn't know.
ChrisThere's a remake.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisNo, I saw the original.
LeeOh.
LeeSorry.
ChrisYeah.
Chrisbut I mean she hasn't done her a lot, I guess.
ChrisThat I know of.
ChrisShe stopped acting, perhaps.
AdamNo, she acting, but I think there was an element of blacklisting after the Island of Dr. Moreau.
Adambut that's a whole.
AdamAnother story.
ChrisOkay.
Chris
ChrisYeah.
Adam
ChrisReturn to Oz was.
LeeOh.
Adam
Chrisbut yeah, no, so so I was thinking I kind of don't know.
ChrisI'd probably mixed those two up, but I'm assuming they're kind of quite different.
LeeVery different.
ChrisSo.
ChrisOkay.
ChrisAll right.
LeeThe Craft is very aimed at like.
ChrisOkay.
LeeTeenagers, I'd say, and it's probably teen horror, quite dark, yeah, okay, whereas Hocus Pocus is just a Disney.
ChrisLike a fun family.
AdamLike a.
LeeYeah.
ChrisYeah.
ChrisOkay.
LeeLike a Bedknobs and Broomsticks style rather than, you know, sort of.
LeeScary.
LeeScary.
AdamSo no carry.
LeeYeah.
AdamExactly.
AdamYeah.
Leebut yeah, so I I just I think it's one of those.
LeeI think one of the things Disney do do particularly well is like catching like the Disney Christmas films feel proper Christmas, and I think Hocus Pocus catches that Massachusetts.
LeeHalloween, you know, in the fall and just going trick or treat, and it just catches that so well, and then, yeah, they just put three of the most hilarious witches in it.
Lee
Leeyeah, and I I just I think the only thing I don't like about that film is like we said earlier, there's a dance number in the middle of it for no reason whatsoever, which I skip every time I watch it.
Lee
LeeBecause I love.
LeeBet.
AdamThat's that's the that's the thing you have to put up with with Disney though, there's going to be a children.
LeeYeah.
AdamThe only the only film that doesn't subscribe to that is, the Emperor's New Groove, which is why it's fucking brilliant.
Lee
Lee
LeeBut yeah, so I'm very much looking forward to.
LeeAnd the Monsters.
LeeLooks like it's coming along nicely.
ChrisOh, yeah.
AdamYes.
AdamYeah, there's released a teaser for it now.
AdamHaven't they?
LeeThey have.
LeeIt's very goofy.
LeeBut yeah.
AdamYeah.
Adam
LeeSo.
AdamI I presume he's aiming for October with that as well.
LeeYes.
LeeI was.
AdamIt would make sense.
LeeYeah.
LeeBut then again,
Leedoes he want to go up against Hocus Pocus 2?
LeeI mean,
AdamWe it depends actually.
AdamBecause both of them have a legacy audience.
LeeYeah.
AdamPossibly the Monsters might have a greater one.
LeeHe could well be right.
Leeanyway, right.
LeeSo, thanks ever so much for listening, everybody.
Leego and check out.
LeeAll the things that we've been discussing.
ChrisYeah.
Leeand also.
LeeApart from.
LeeApart from the ones that obviously we said were wank, don't go and watch the ones that are you wasting your time.
LeeDon't go and watch Mobius because you're wasting your time.
Leenext month,
Leeas we said, will be listener request month, so we are going to be going with.
LeeHorror Express and The Pit and the Pendulum.
AdamYeah.
Lee
LeeYeah, and the rest of those films.
LeeAre definitely going on a list.
LeeWe can either we can add them into the draw for the next month.
LeeOr, anyway, they're all going on the list of stuff we need to watch.
LeeSo.
AdamYeah.
AdamWe'll we'll be working our way through them. I mean, the list ever expands, one day the list will end and then so will the podcast.
AdamSo thank you for continuing.
AdamThis Sian effort of, you know, we're just keep rolling this boulder up the hill of podcasts.
AdamThere we go.
Leeyes, and we will be back again for that.
LeeAnd then so we'll do those two episodes and then we'll be back to what we've been watching again.
LeeSo, thanks very much for listening, everyone, and good night.
AdamGood night.
