Evil Dead II

0:23LeeGood evening and welcome to horror. I'm Lee.

0:26ChrisI'm Chris.

0:27AdamI'm Adam.

0:29LeeYour greeting, Adam, that's really, really uncomfortable, I'm not gonna

0:30ChrisThat's a happy hour.

0:34AdamIt was making me face anyway.

0:36ChrisIt's because he's looking at Bruce Campbell there.

0:38AdamYeah.

0:39LeeOh.

0:39ChrisMakes me happy.

0:41LeeIt's a little bit too late for this now, but there will be spoilers, there will be swearing.

0:45LeeOnly spoilers on the main event, we don't do it on the, what we've been watching, which is

0:50ChrisWell, we try not to, unless, unless we get really excited.

0:53LeeOr we get

0:54AdamWe try not to, we try not to, unless Lee goes, fuck it, I will spoil it, 'cause it's shit.

1:40LeeI do that quite a lot.

1:41LeeI'm such an asshole, I really am, I don't know how I live with me.

1:48AdamWe we don't.

1:49ChrisNo, no, no, you're not, honest.

1:53LeeSo, this evening's main event is, because this is our Halloween episode, this is the episode we are releasing nearest to Halloween.

2:00LeeSo, for our Halloween episode, Adam has quite rightly reminded us that we haven't covered one of the best horror films, period.

2:12ChrisHonestly, right, every time we cover a film, probably like this one, then I think what was wrong with these two, and then I look back at what we've covered, I'm like, no, fair play.

2:22ChrisThis is too difficult.

2:24AdamBecause they're cho between all this.

2:27AdamIt's a big pile, mate, you know.

2:29LeeThe problem is, it's not as big as the pile of crap that we managed to get you to avoid.

2:34LeeLike, if you sat through that, that's the problem, if you picked out the, if you sat through the nine crap films to get to the good one,

2:42Leeyou'd look as old as we do, to be honest.

2:47AdamAnd also, it has to be said, we covered Evil Dead

2:50Adamin March 2019.

2:56ChrisOh.

2:57AdamAnd we're usually a bit quicker in getting to the sequel and stuff.

3:00LeeOh.

3:00AdamYou know.

3:01AdamSo, yeah, it's, it's been a while.

3:05AdamThere's, the the world is significantly different, especially because I found my my Blu-ray box of The Evil Dead was still in the cellophane, because obviously, we must have watched Evil Dead together.

3:17LeeYeah, oh yeah, of course we watched it here.

3:19AdamYeah.

3:20LeeOh, remember them days when we used to sit together and drink beer and then record.

3:24AdamYeah. And then once we'd recorded, we'd play touching games and.

3:29Leein the back row.

3:32AdamYeah.

3:34AdamNow it's just a, now it's just a quick fumble with a, relative flow test.

3:42LeeRight, so to get the, now I feel awful now, saying this after what we've just been discussing.

3:46LeeBut we do have a massive congratulations to throw out to friend of the show Joe, him and his good lady wife have just had a child.

3:56LeeCongratulations.

3:57ChrisOh, excellent.

3:58ChrisCongratulations.

3:59AdamFull sprog droppage.

4:01Adamyeah, congratulations.

4:04AdamAnd, also, very sweet, he did actually message us to say, sorry I hadn't got around to listening to the episode until just now.

4:12LeeIt's like.

4:13AdamYou you were you, you know, you birth was taking place.

4:17AdamAnd

4:19ChrisFrankly you can prioritize that if, if you really need to.

4:22AdamYou know, we we won't take offense.

4:26LeeI'll tell you what.

4:27AdamWe're not.

4:28LeeGo on.

4:30AdamNow I was just gonna say we're not your employer.

4:32LeeYeah.

4:32AdamSo we won't, we won't take offense that you've had a child.

4:38Leebut what I did realize the other day, actually, that I do wanna put the question out and and have Joe let us know.

4:45LeeSo, I, I don't feel, see, normally, I avoid using people's surnames, like I don't use any of our surnames, not 'cause we've done anything, but just 'cause, you know, there's no need to.

4:56AdamProtect the innocent and uphold the law.

4:58LeeExactly.

4:58Leebut his name is his username on, Instagram, so I don't mind too much.

5:04LeeSo, Joe Watson, but I suddenly realized, I don't know if Joe Watson is his real name, because recently, listening back to a, a ghost podcast I listen to, and they were discussing

5:16LeeThe Enfield Haunting and the name that the ghost gave the young girl in that, obviously, bullshit haunting,

5:21Leewas Joe Watson.

5:23LeeSo I don't know if that's his real name, or if like us, he's a nerd who has just gone

5:27LeeThat's a great name to use, you know, a bit like Ingrid Cold.

5:30ChrisLet us know, Joe.

5:31ChrisThis is

5:32Chrisan ask Joe Watson.

5:33LeeYes, ask Joe Watson.

5:34AdamAsk Joe Watson.

5:35LeeOr, also,

5:36AdamHe's

5:36Leeif Joe Watson is his real name, and he's gonna, when he dies, go back in time, Terminator styley, and haunt some people in Enfield.

5:41LeeThat could be interesting.

5:43AdamIt's, it's when you read the the byline on his Instagram page and it says, I had an average in a chair.

5:51AdamThat you might get the inkling that he is taking it from The Enfield Podcast, I don't know.

5:57LeeSorry to embarrass you, Joe.

5:58LeeBut,

5:58LeeThere you go.

6:00AdamHe's, clearly, I think Lee's just had too much time on his hands, he's been overthinking.

6:04LeeYeah.

6:05LeeI I would have been, except, I discovered a new, series of films this, I'll cover it in what I've been watching.

6:11LeeI discovered a new series of films this morning, and watched two of the three films just today.

6:16LeeSo, I have got too much time on my hands.

6:18ChrisThat is a busy day.

6:19LeeI can see a box set artwork cover from Arrow and immediately spent three hours of my day just watching Japanese horror.

6:29AdamOh.

6:30ChrisDamn pandemic.

6:32LeeWe'll, yeah, we'll come back to that.

6:34LeeChris.

6:35LeeWhat have you been watching?

6:37ChrisI have been watching something that somebody recommended.

6:42ChrisAnd it could well be you.

6:44LeeHey.

6:44ChrisIt's the Lego Star Wars, what's it called?

6:49LeeLego Star Wars.

6:51AdamTales of terror.

6:52ChrisTales of terror.

6:53ChrisThat's the one.

6:55ChrisYeah, no, we looked at it, we thought, yeah, this this looks probably child-friendly.

7:01ChrisThey've seen the other two Lego films, we haven't seen The Lego Batman, though.

7:05ChrisI don't know if that

7:06LeeThat's very.

7:06LeeIt's not as good as The Lego Films, but it

7:08ChrisOkay, still good.

7:09ChrisYeah, all right, so, you know, Lego's doing a good job here.

7:12ChrisDisney, still doing a good job.

7:15Chrislike I I enjoyed it.

7:16Chrisyeah.

7:19ChrisIt, it what was it?

7:21ChrisActually, it showed me the, the Darth Maul back story.

7:26ChrisWhich I quite, I do quite like the fact that they poke fun at the, yeah, the stories, you know, that could perhaps be taken either way by different people, but I quite enjoy that.

7:38Chrisand yeah, and so, so yeah,

7:40Christhat was good to see Darth Maul going down to, I can't remember the planet name.

7:44ChrisBut the, is it The Night Sisters?

7:48AdamYes.

7:48ChrisWho are having

7:49Chriscalled, yeah, I don't exactly know what they are.

7:52ChrisLike, then they're, 'cause it's a bit weird, isn't it, I mean, you don't, there hasn't been magical or supernatural types in Star Wars, have, has there, aside from Jedi and Sith?

8:00AdamYeah.

8:02LeeSo I think

8:03AdamThis is this is where we need, this is where we need ways.

8:06ChrisYes.

8:07ChrisWe do.

8:08Adamprowess.

8:08ChrisYeah.

8:09ChrisSo we probably should cover this.

8:11AdamYeah.

8:12AdamI think I I I too watched it as well.

8:16ChrisOkay.

8:17Adamand thought it was rather fun as well.

8:22Adamthough at one point Claire said, what is the best impression in this?

8:28AdamWhat out?

8:29AdamYou know, the flappy blue elephant man.

8:31ChrisYeah.

8:32AdamAnd I pointed out that it's probably the same bloke.

8:35ChrisYeah.

8:36AdamBecause they because Danny Mendez is all like proper voice over artists doing it.

8:40AdamRather than, oh, I'm mates, I'm, I live three doors down from Eli Roth and he wants a part in it.

8:46AdamCan he be a stormtrooper?

8:50Chrisbut now, who is the voice of the Emperor?

8:52Chris'Cause

8:53Chrisis it Srey?

8:55ChrisLike it can't be, can it, but does it not sound like him?

8:57ChrisThat's that's who I kept thinking.

8:59AdamIt does sound.

8:59AdamAt first I thought it might have been Mark Hamill.

9:01AdamBut it's not.

9:02ChrisOkay.

9:03Adam'Cause it sounded a bit like his Joker.

9:06ChrisHe does, he does do some impressive voices, Mark Hamill.

9:09AdamYeah, he does.

9:10ChrisHe's he's a talented man.

9:13AdamAnd it would make sense because then at least you have your Luke covered as well.

9:16ChrisYeah, yeah, definitely.

9:21LeeExcellent.

9:21LeeCool, so well done for catching up on that.

9:24LeeAdam.

9:26LeeWhat have you been watching?

9:28AdamLiterally, that.

9:30LeeNice.

9:32AdamI've watched that.

9:34ChrisNow, did, did Ted enjoy it?

9:37AdamDid watch it with Ted.

9:38ChrisOh, right.

9:39AdamI genuinely, I genuinely just got,

9:44Adamthe best way I can describe it is, that bit in Alan Partridge where he goes,

9:52AdamI'll be honest with you, Lynn, I'm at loose ends.

9:55AdamSo I just got completely, and in the end it was like, so I watched that, and then Monk and Kenna Teller videos and, bits of this is Jinsy and stuff like that, just because

10:08AdamI genuinely could not think of what to watch.

10:11AdamSo, but yes, I did watch, the terrifying tales, and,

10:17Adamwas and found most heartily that I did laugh.

10:20AdamSo, yes.

10:22LeeI can't say I really enjoyed it, but I've got this.

10:24Leenot to be too topical, but yeah, at the time, it had just happened at the time, so I didn't realize everybody had this ridiculous cold that I had and still have.

10:33Leeyeah, it just wiped my memory of the evening.

10:36LeeI remember putting it on, I remember the first five minutes.

10:39LeeAnd beyond that, I've just got my notes to go by.

10:42LeeIt knocked me out.

10:44AdamYeah.

10:47AdamYeah, no, it's, I mean, to be honest, it's, it's quite fun to to be sharing again in terms of disease.

10:53Lee

10:54AdamYou know, and and and even, you know, despicable attitudes at work.

10:58AdamIt's nice that people are feeling able to share them.

11:00AdamSo.

11:00AdamBut

11:01ChrisThere was a bit of a time when we were sort of grouping together as a, you know, a unified.

11:05Chrisspecies, but that's all gone now.

11:07AdamOh, yeah, no.

11:07AdamFuck that.

11:08AdamIt's back to pull the ladder up, Jack, fuck the rest.

11:12AdamBut, but yes, unfortunately, because, the box set of, Blu-ray box set of Trial of the Time Lord came out.

11:16AdamSo I've mostly been watching that.

11:18AdamSo.

11:18LeeThat is absolutely fair.

11:21LeeThis is not a job, it is a hobby.

11:23LeeSo, don't feel obligated to overwatch stuff.

11:27AdamTo be honest, I think there's also an element where I've been like,

11:30Adameveryone's been going on about Halloween.

11:32AdamAnd I'm like, I'm I'm always watching

11:35Adamhorror films and supernatural stuff.

11:38AdamSo, in a weird way, I think I might have gone on holiday for Halloween.

11:40AdamAnd it's just like, yeah, you know, just, I'm like, you know, Squid Game.

11:43AdamOkay, you could, oh, asking for a friend.

11:46Adamparticularly as we could cover it, possibly, if the answer's yes.

11:53Adamdo you consider Predator a horror film, or could it be construed as a horror film?

11:57LeeYes, absolutely.

11:59AdamYeah.

12:00AdamOh, that's what I was thinking as well.

12:02AdamYeah, now, just 'cause, Claire said the other day she hasn't seen Predator.

12:05AdamSo I was gonna show her at the weekend.

12:07AdamBut I was also thinking, yeah, we could probably cover that.

12:10AdamBut I think we've got to cover Alien before we cover Predator.

12:14Adamjust out of sheer loyalty to the Xenomorph.

12:18LeeI'm not gonna lie, I prefer Predator.

12:21LeeI know I'm in the minority.

12:23ChrisNo, no, no, that's that's difficult.

12:25ChrisI I've seen Predator once, and I saw it fairly late on, you know, in life, not when everyone else saw it.

12:31ChrisThere's a big surprise, but, but I don't, yeah,

12:33Chrisand the same for Alien.

12:34ChrisIn fact, I've seen Aliens, I haven't seen Alien.

12:37ChrisAnd I don't know.

12:38AdamThat that seems to be a lot of people.

12:41ChrisYeah, well I guess I was just old enough to kind of get away with watching Aliens when it came out.

12:44Chrisbut obviously Alien was a bit earlier, and so then it's like we, I guess you wouldn't rush to go back necessarily unless it somebody said, you've really got to watch this.

12:52AdamYeah, 'cause apart from, apart from Ripley, you don't really need much of a, you don't need to have seen that to understand every fucking last nuance of Aliens.

13:01AdamBecause Ripley comes out of prior sleep and tells you what happened.

13:04LeeYeah.

13:05ChrisNow, I actually, I listened, when going to sleep the other day, I listened to the Netflix documentary, The Movies That Made Us.

13:12ChrisAnd I listened to the Aliens episode.

13:15Chrisand it was really good.

13:16ChrisAnd I sort of think I should actually watch it properly.

13:18ChrisBecause it was fascinating to hear, like the director and the producer and how it all came about and how Fox, we're like, yeah, we don't need Sigourney Weaver.

13:27ChrisAnd you know, it's like it nearly didn't happen.

13:30ChrisAnd then the fact that they stuck to it and they were like, no, we need Sigourney Weaver, and they sort of went behind Fox's back or something to get her.

13:37ChrisAnd and obviously it turned out great, because the people who knew what they were doing managed to do it.

13:41AdamI cannot, I cannot even contemplate the idea of the Alien films without Ripley.

13:47LeeYeah.

13:48ChrisYeah.

13:48AdamRunning through.

13:49ChrisYeah.

13:50LeeAbsolutely.

13:50LeeAnd again, that's, that's another good thing you bring up, although, I, I'm guessing none of us have seen it yet, I know I certainly haven't, the latest season of,

13:59LeeThe Movies That Made Us just came out.

14:01LeeAnd it is, Halloween, Friday, and Elm Street.

14:06AdamOh, wow.

14:07LeeYeah.

14:08LeeAnd then I realized, I hadn't seen the ones from Christmas, so I haven't seen the Night for Christmas or Elf either.

14:11LeeSo.

14:14LeeI'm actually looking forward to Christmas for a change.

14:18ChrisBut yeah, and you mentioned Squid Game, I'd forgotten that I did actually watch that, I sort of blitzed it so quickly.

14:23ChrisAnd that was like, that was that was nearly two weeks ago.

14:24AdamYou do a lot.

14:26ChrisYeah, I got through them all.

14:27ChrisAnd and it like fantastic.

14:30ChrisI would say everyone watch it.

14:32ChrisIt like for me, every episode built on the previous in a good way that added something new.

14:37ChrisAnd sort of still felt like a cohesive story, and yeah, characters were good.

14:40ChrisYeah, it's just like,

14:42Chrisit was, it was way better than I was expecting.

14:46Chriseven right up to the end, I I liked it.

14:48ChrisAnd and I think you said, I was thinking this as I was watching it.

14:50ChrisYou're like, you know, maybe don't make a a second.

14:55Chrisseries, because that might take away from it.

14:57AdamYeah.

14:58AdamLet it, let it.

15:00ChrisYeah.

15:00AdamI would prefer it that it was just this thing that I watched over the course of like four days.

15:06ChrisYeah.

15:07AdamThat was fucking great for those four days.

15:10AdamAnd then I can look back fondly on it and enjoy all the memes.

15:13ChrisYeah.

15:13ChrisAbsolutely.

15:14AdamOf the, of the old boy sitting on his own in the corner.

15:20Adamthat are currently doing the rounds.

15:22AdamBut,

15:23LeeI've luckily managed to avoid them because I haven't seen it yet.

15:26LeeSo.

15:27AdamIt's I mean they're they're not spoilery if it they're just a man looking very alone.

15:32AdamSo.

15:34AdamBut,

15:34AdamI mean, definitely recommended, but also definitely recommended before it becomes

15:39Adamlazy spoofs in in stuff, in about a year.

15:43AdamYou know,

15:43Adamyou know the usual way where it's like sort of like, you sort of, oh, BBC, look, BBC News have picked up on this trend that's online.

15:51AdamThat means it's over.

15:52AdamSo.

15:55ChrisYeah, no, I definitely think it's worth a watch.

15:56LeeCool.

15:58LeeSo, I'll add it to the list, it won't be until after Halloween, obviously, but, it's definitely next on the list, I think, after Halloween.

16:04LeeSo, speaking of which,

16:06Leewe've been cracking on through our Halloween watching.

16:09Leeunlike Adam, I had a, a different response, which was,

16:14LeeI sat down with Lady Jennifer one night, we went to the local pub, which we literally never do.

16:20Leeand decided, as she had a pad and paper, we were gonna go through all the films that we definitely want to watch for Halloween.

16:26LeeSo he said, right, if we make a list of ten films or so,

16:30Leethat'll give us enough to get through, give us a target, and we'll do it.

16:35Leeso eighteen films later on the list, we are now struggling to crack to get through them all.

16:42Leeso the ones we've watched so far.

16:45LeeBeetlejuice re-watch for the first time in probably a decade.

16:49LeeHoly shit, that film has me laughing so loud.

16:54LeeIt's unbelievable.

16:55ChrisIt is too good.

16:58LeeIt's one of those films that it was amazing in the eighties and I can imagine it being very possible now.

17:05LeeBut actually, it's just, like,

17:07Leeeverything about it is so good.

17:09ChrisStill works so well.

17:12LeeCatherine O'Hara and Michael Keaton just whoop it away.

17:17LeeI mean, Winona Ryder's portrayal of a an angsty teenage girl is fantastic.

17:23LeeBut the comedy from them two just absolutely slays me.

17:28LeeYeah, the delivery is incredible.

17:31AdamI think it's also it comes from that lovely point where Tim Burton hadn't gone twee.

17:39AdamDo you know what I mean?

17:40AdamWhere it was like, oh no, it's a twisted fairy tale rather than just a fairy tale.

17:45LeeYeah.

17:48AdamAnd, and obviously, like, like we've we said on our crossover episodes with not for everyone, it's also basically a weekend with Adam.

17:59LeeYeah.

18:01LeeYeah, it's just so much fun.

18:02LeeLoved every minute of it.

18:04LeeI saw the new Muppets, Haunted Mansion.

18:10AdamOh, I've yet to watch that.

18:11AdamYeah.

18:11LeeNot a film, 'cause it's fifty minutes long, which kind of pissed me off, 'cause when it was first announced, it said an hour and a half on IMDb, the lying bastards.

18:20Lee

18:22Leebut,

18:22Adam'Cause they had to cut out all the Swedish chef because he's got in trouble and he's been cancelled online for some comments about the Holocaust.

18:29LeeSo.

18:34Leebut yeah, I, I, I think the problem is, I really, I, I definitely enjoyed it.

18:38LeeBut, I am not the biggest fan of The Muppets.

18:41LeeI'm not as big a fan as Waze, like,

18:43LeeMy, my knowledge of The Muppets is how much I love, Muppets Christmas Carol.

18:47Chris

18:48LeeAnd

18:49ChrisSo what is, why is that different particularly?

18:51ChrisWhat is it about that that stands out for you?

18:53LeeI think it was just one of those, I've never even seen the others, but Muppets Christmas Carol for me, came out, oh, I can't even remember, I think I was in my teens, I was too, I was older than I should have been to, I was older than when you show it to a child, but I wasn't old enough to be a parent showing it to a child either.

19:08ChrisOkay.

19:09Lee

19:10Leebut just something about it just kind of sparked to me and I was like,

19:13Leeyeah, no, it's, it's nice.

19:15LeeIt takes me back to a time in my childhood that's, when everything's nice and lovely and soft and friendly.

19:22Leeand Christmas films hadn't done that for a long time.

19:26LeeAnd I, yeah, it just really,

19:28LeeI I still believe that if it ever reaches Christmas Eve at midnight and I haven't yet watched Muppets Christmas Carol,

19:33Leewe will end up in a perpetual Christmas Eve until such a point as I rectify it.

19:38LeeIt's, yeah.

19:39AdamI mean,

19:40Adamit could be worse, we've we've seen Krampus.

19:42LeeYeah.

19:48Leebut yeah, so I think I was holding up.

19:49AdamAnd you've not seen Muppets Treasure Island?

19:51AdamNo.

19:52LeeI own it, I've not watched it yet.

19:54AdamChange that, because you'll love it.

19:56AdamAnd it's got bloody Tim Curry in it.

19:57LeeYeah.

19:58LeeI think when I said, I think Waze asked me before if I'd seen it, I said no, and he literally told me to fuck off, which directly acceptable.

20:02ChrisAdam, Adam was getting a bit of that look.

20:04LeeYeah.

20:04ChrisWhen he was.

20:05AdamI was, I was older than you, I'm not, I'm not quite as militant as Waze.

20:09AdamMe and him rarely take a hard line on anything, but, you know, The Muppets is definitely one.

20:19Adamso, oh, and if Claire's Claire's favorite Muppet film as well.

20:22LeeYeah.

20:23AdamMuppets Treasure.

20:24LeeYeah.

20:26Adamso she'll get stroppy as well.

20:27LeeI'll definitely watch it.

20:28LeeIt's, it's one of them things it's on my list, but the amount of times I've suggested it to Jennifer, I've gone through all the things that are that we've bought that we've not yet watched.

20:38LeeAnd she always goes, no, you know, when you suggested something a dozen times and it's been turned down.

20:42LeeYou're like, I'm not gonna fucking mention it, and once you stop mentioning it, you forget it exists.

20:46LeeSo.

20:47ChrisLike, the challenge is on.

20:48ChrisI'm, I'm gonna watch this before Lee, just so for she's gonna be aggro with him.

20:52AdamWell, I'll just say this is a point of message to both Claire and D, yeah, same with Guardians of the Galaxy.

20:59AdamMaybe I fucking it won't die.

21:00LeeHow have you not seen Guardians of the Galaxy?

21:03Adam'Cause I was being polite, I wanted to share it.

21:05AdamAnd I was a fe.

21:06LeeOh.

21:07LeeBut it's so good, it makes me cry.

21:09ChrisYeah.

21:10AdamAdmittedly, I did watch.

21:12AdamI did, I did try and watch it with Ted because I thought,

21:16Adamwell, what's he gonna do, he can't complain that much.

21:19Adamand then the opening dead parent bit was a bit sort of like,

21:24ChrisYeah, that that is the,

21:25AdamI don't wanna have to explain this to a fucking two-year-old.

21:28LeeSo.

21:30ChrisThat is pretty much the only serious kind of bit.

21:31AdamYes.

21:32AdamUnfortunately, it's right at the start.

21:34AdamIt's like.

21:35AdamYou know, it's not like, oh, look at that heartwarming hilarious film about the squareheaded old twat.

21:38AdamYeah, and he's floating out.

21:40ChrisAnd the first bit will kill you.

21:42AdamYeah.

21:42AdamBecause it's because it's Disney, because it's Pixar, and they drink the tears of children.

21:46ChrisYeah.

21:49LeeBut luckily, they don't do that on the Haunted Mansion.

21:51Lee

21:53AdamYeah.

21:54Leeto drag it back around.

21:56LeeI mean, it it's really good.

21:58LeeI I enjoyed it.

22:00Leeyeah, unfortunately it didn't make me eight years old, but that is my only, my only problem with it.

22:05LeeI think it's one of those things, if you showed it to a kid now,

22:09Leelike, if you guys showed it to your kids, I think they would grow up with it being a Charlie Brown type classic, it,

22:15LeeYeah, but watching it as a forty-year-old man, I was like, yeah, it was good, but.

22:23Leeso move on from that.

22:25LeeSo next thing, again, as I just said, as a forty-year-old man, Addams Family 2, the animated version, finally got around to watching.

22:33LeeIf you enjoyed the first one, definitely watch it.

22:36LeeIt's every bit as good, it's probably one of those, I'll go back to it every couple of years.

22:39LeeIt's definitely enjoyable, you can watch it any time of the year.

22:42LeeIt's fantastic.

22:44Leeyeah.

22:45LeeAnd it's good.

22:45AdamDo you enjoy it?

22:47AdamI did enjoy the first, like, I did enjoy the first animated one.

22:53Adam'Cause I'll be honest, I wasn't really that keen on the films.

22:55AdamEven though they've got excellent cast and everything, I was just,

23:00Adamyeah, they're just a bit a bit weaker.

23:02AdamOff.

23:03LeeYeah, no, I I absolutely agree.

23:07LeeYeah, whereas the kind of worked more of an animation because they could do more over the top stupidity with it that they obviously couldn't do.

23:24LeeSo yeah, no, I'm totally with you.

23:26LeeBoth of the films are enjoyable, but like, once every seven or eight years, I wouldn't regularly, it's one of those you go back to rewatch it because you remember nothing about it.

23:35LeeRather than going back because of the things you remember.

23:43AdamYou're not revisiting past glories, you're just, right, I genuinely can't remember.

23:48AdamI did see it.

23:49LeeYeah.

23:50LeeI saw it and I didn't hate it.

23:52LeeSo.

23:53LeeI still own it, and I didn't throw it at somebody with and shout words out, so therefore it must be good.

23:59Leealso, so I finally got around to watching the 1974 Dracula with Jack Palance.

24:08AdamOh, yes.

24:10LeeI, I've avoided this forever, because, as much as I love Dracula, I could not see Jack Palance ever playing Dracula.

24:17LeeI was wrong.

24:18Adam

24:19LeeHe was genuinely really well cast in this, and he, although he's a very different Dracula,

24:24Leeit kind of worked in a funny way, and and the supporting cast was fantastic as well.

24:29LeeSo, I mean, that definitely added to it.

24:32LeeBut yeah.

24:33AdamI think that's what you want, isn't it?

24:34AdamThough, you don't want everyone to try and do Bella Lugosi.

24:37LeeYeah.

24:38AdamYou do you do want someone to give it their own.

24:41AdamStamp or their own variant on it.

24:43LeeYeah.

24:44LeeAbsolutely.

24:46LeeAnd it yeah, I was I was really surprised and again, it changed the story enough that I found it interesting without being like,

24:54Leeoh, this is just, you know, trying to fill in all the gaps that were missing or, you know, try and do anything new with it in a desperate kind of way.

25:00LeeI I thought it worked really well, it was really well written.

25:03LeeI think it was Dan Curtis, wasn't it,

25:04Leewho directed it as well?

25:05Leeit was Dan Curtis, yeah.

25:08AdamYeah.

25:10Adam'Cause I think the, what you're saying is it didn't do the third series of the BBC Dracula.

25:15LeeYeah.

25:16AdamThe third.

25:17Adamepisode, rather.

25:18LeeYeah, and again,

25:20Leebut it it it did in the same way that I kind of felt it, it told us a story as we know that we're comfortable with and we enjoy and what we're there for.

25:28LeeBut added enough extra stuff, that it was like, this isn't just another rehash of the same shit.

25:35LeeSo in the same way as the BBC one, as you say, the first two episodes did a really good job of

25:39LeeYeah, bringing both of those elements together.

25:41LeeI felt the same with this one.

25:43Lee

25:44Leebut I haven't finished it yet, so there's another half hour yet.

25:47LeeSo it could shit on me yet.

25:48LeeLet's not forget us, that was a fantastic movie for the first hour.

25:50LeeSo it's not count our chick.

25:52AdamYes.

25:53Leeand finally.

25:55Leeso Arrow have just released a box set, and I saw that they'd posted it, and then two posts later, I saw that you had liked it.

26:04Leeand it's the, is it Yokai monsters, Youkai monsters from the sixties?

26:08AdamOh, yes, yes.

26:12Lee

26:14LeeSo I went and had a Google and saw a trailer, and then saw that they're all available on archive.org.

26:21LeeIn obviously a kind of VHS quality shit version.

26:23Adam

26:25Lee

26:26Leeyeah, and although I can't see myself splurging out any time soon 'cause of current events.

26:32LeeI will definitely,

26:33AdamWell, at the moment it's very likely we're gonna have to make a down payment on a Scott egg come the new year.

26:38LeeYeah.

26:39LeeYeah.

26:39LeePrecisely, so sixty quid on a box set of Japanese horror.

26:41LeeMight be a little bit of a push.

26:42LeeBut,

26:43Leeoh, it just, they're such fun films.

26:46LeeThey're fucking bonkers.

26:47AdamOh.

26:48LeeIt's, it's got all the the beauty and the subtlety of Japanese filmmaking.

26:50LeeAnd then they just kind of chuck on top of it.

26:51LeeAnd,

26:52Leehere are the monsters.

26:54LeeHere's the monster that's an umbrella.

26:55LeeWith a leg and one eye and a massive tongue, and here's the monster that's like a normal woman with a six-foot neck.

26:57LeeAnd oh, it's just,

27:00LeeI watched two of the, I watched the first two films back to back today.

27:02LeeAnd I'd watch the third one, but I ran out of time.

27:06LeeSo I really enjoyed them.

27:07LeeThey're really good.

27:09AdamThey are really good.

27:10AdamAnd,

27:12Adamthey're, I mean, even for, even for Japanese monster movies, like, they're fucking weird.

27:20LeeThey are bat shit.

27:21AdamYou know, you know, and when you consider that say Mothra is mainstream.

27:26Lee

27:27Adamwith with the two singing twins who like who are tiny and live in a box who bring Mothra out and just thousands of bizarre fucking things with it.

27:35AdamBut,

27:36Adamyeah, no, they are,

27:40Adamnot only that, but also, I mean, again, there's no way on God's earth

27:43Adamthat I have got the finances to be, buying that.

27:50AdamBut guaranteed with Arrow, they will probably look the best they ever have.

27:55LeeThey're 4K restorations, don't, they're gonna look good.

27:58LeeAnd I, I mean they're beautiful, again, Japanese cinema.

28:01LeeAnd that's the thing.

28:02LeeThat's why I, I don't get chirpy, obviously,

28:04Leebecause that's not my style.

28:05LeeBut some people are just like, no, you should never have anything dubbed, it should always have the subtitles.

28:10LeeAnd I'm like, yeah, but with Japanese films,

28:14LeeI want to be looking all the time, because their sets and stuff are so astonishing.

28:19LeeI don't want to be and they.

28:20ChrisYeah.

28:21LeeAgain, something like this as well.

28:23LeeAt the beginning it was very dialogue-heavy.

28:25AdamYeah.

28:26LeeSo I literally felt like I was just reading a book and occasionally getting a couple of seconds to glimpse up at what was happening.

28:29Lee

28:30Leeonce the ghosts all turn up, it it sort of changes and you can sort of catch up.

28:35LeeBut,

28:36AdamYeah.

28:37LeeYeah, so I'm hoping when the Arrow ones come out, they're gonna have a dubbed version, which I know a lot of people will call me a philistine for.

28:43LeeBut,

28:44LeeI just wanna take in every second of that beauty, 'cause they're just, nineteen sixty-eight and they just look fantastic.

28:49LeeEven the effects and stuff.

28:50LeeI mean, some of it's pretty ropey.

28:51LeeBut the the woman with the really long neck, although you can see how it's all done, it looks incredible.

28:57AdamYeah.

28:58LeeSo good.

28:59AdamWell, I think it's like even,

29:01Adamlike, it's like the film, the Japanese film House.

29:08Lee

29:09Adamwhere the effects in that border into the really ropey.

29:16AdamBut they have that sort of, for want of a better expression, mighty bush quality.

29:21AdamYeah, where it's like, how is something done so cheaply, actually a bit eerie or a bit creepy and so on.

29:24ChrisYeah.

29:24ChrisAnd I think it's a similar sort of thing.

29:28ChrisBut I I but also,

29:29ChrisArrow usually are pretty good for releasing, like, they will usually have the dubs on there and everything else.

29:34ChrisLike that.

29:34ChrisBecause subtitles aren't for everyone's taste.

29:36ChrisAnd not only that, but also, I mean, I've got, I can't even remember, I think it was like the first.

29:41Chrisfirst time I saw, Aguirre, Wrath of God.

29:45Lee

29:45ChrisIs I decided to watch it, initially I watched it in German with the subtitles.

29:51ChrisBut the subtitles were too colloquial.

29:55Lee

29:56ChrisSo it'd be like, so the subtitles would be like, hey, look at those guys.

30:02ChrisWhereas actually when you watched it with the dubs, they they'd kept it in a more medieval speak, so they're like a man approaches.

30:09ChrisStuff like.

30:10ChrisThat.

30:10ChrisAnd so I I ended up watching it with the dub.

30:12ChrisBecause it didn't, it felt more in keeping with how the film should be.

30:16ChrisRather than.

30:17LeeIt's funny how that.

30:18Leehas such an effect, 'cause I I can't remember what it was.

30:20LeeBut I had I experienced that for the first time.

30:22Leeyou know, a little while ago, and I was surprised that just how much it changed the feeling of it.

30:26LeeJust by having slightly different words.

30:28LeeAnd it might, it might have been, it might have been House movie castle actually.

30:32Lee

30:33Leeand I think I'd never heard it in the English before.

30:35LeeAnd perhaps it was now on Netflix with English, I don't know.

30:38LeeIt's something and it or it was just playing, and I was like, that's funny, this is saying like, yeah, it's really different what they're saying, and it really did affect it.

30:45LeeSo yeah,

30:46Leeit's funny.

30:46ChrisIt's funny you say that.

30:47ChrisThat was that was what the Youkai films felt like.

30:50ChrisWas spirited away made in nineteen seventy, but live action.

30:55ChrisThat was exactly what.

30:56LeeYeah.

30:56LeeThat is

30:57Leethat is impressive.

30:58ChrisSo it's just.

30:59LeeThat is a feat.

31:02Chrisand yeah, and that is everything we've caught up with.

31:03ChrisSo,

31:04Chriswe should probably, as we've been going for quite some time now, get into the main event.

31:11ChrisWell I was thinking that's a good segway as well.

31:12Chris'Cause the effects, I could, I could apply what you said to this.

31:15ChrisRight.

31:16ChrisThey are, you know, you could say they're kind of dated and they are a little bit cheap in some but a but amazing, like, just like, it works so perfectly.

31:23ChrisAnyway, now I'll let you.

31:24ChrisI finish introducing it.

31:26LeeHa.

31:26Leeyeah.

31:27LeeEvil Dead 2, we covered the first one.

31:30LeeAs Adam said, about three years ago, now it's about time we got around to it.

31:33LeeIt's.

31:34LeeIt's a, it's a very strange movie, and it has got that this is the only one that I like.

31:38LeeI've watched three films, I can think of off top of my head, that are kind of a semi remake and a semi sequel, and this is the only one that works.

31:46LeeAnd I still can't quite work out what they were going for with it, but,

31:52LeeIt's a, it's a stone cold classic in my opinion, it's absolutely amazing.

31:56AdamThe term Bruce Campbell.

31:57Adamused is 'requel'.

31:59Chris

32:00AdamIn that it's not quite a remake and it's not not quite a sequel, because the two things have sort of blurred.

32:06Adambut I mean, actually, I mean, originally, the original idea for Evil Dead 2 was basically Army of Darkness.

32:20AdamIs they wanted to push Ash back and do the.

32:23Adammedieval Knights in Armor sort of story.

32:29AdamAnd then I think they realized that actually they probably wouldn't necessarily be able to get the budget for that.

32:37Adambut then they thought, well, we'll do some more stuff set around the cabin.

32:43Adam'Cause obviously,

32:44Adam'cause Evil Dead doesn't end just ends with Ash being attacked by the.

32:48Adamthe the unseen force, doesn't it, like just goes, camera goes up, black and then it's the credits or whatever.

32:53AdamAnd so they were like, well, we could sort of continue from there and just have more going on.

32:57AdamLike going on in the cabin.

33:00AdamAnd then in their original idea for the script, they were like, right, so we'll put in the bits here from Evil Dead 1.

33:05AdamSo that.

33:06AdamYou know, to recap the story.

33:08Adam

33:09Adambut because they were with a different, because it was a different production company doing Evil Dead 2, they couldn't get the rights to Evil Dead 1.

33:19LeeOh.

33:21AdamSo even though they wrote and directed it and everything, obviously, it's it's New Line Cinema who actually owns it as the distributor.

33:25AdamAnd they wouldn't let them have footage from The Evil Dead, basically they couldn't afford whatever they were asking for the footage from The Evil Dead.

33:31AdamSo they just went, fuck it, we'll do it as a different.

33:34ChrisLike change it enough.

33:34AdamWe'll sort of remake, well, not even change it enough, but change it enough so that they could get to the point they wanted to do the sequel from.

33:46AdamSo rather than having to redo the whole film, they were like, right, so it's just Ash.

33:50AdamAnd, Linda that go, rather than a whole group of them go.

33:56Adam'cause I did see, I did see, I remember years and years ago seeing a lovely thing where someone said, you can read it that Ash is so fucking stupid.

34:00Adamthat he got away the first time, and then took someone back to the cabin.

34:09LeeI seem to remember the first time I watched it, yeah, being like, why is he going back there, that didn't end well.

34:15LeeAnd then I'm like, maybe he's luring more spirits, and then I was like, yeah, no.

34:18LeeHe's totally not happy about what's going on.

34:20LeeSo that's not the case either.

34:21AdamYeah.

34:22AdamI think, I think it's a weird, I think it's a bit of a weird one because obviously, maybe they weren't thinking, I mean, even though The Evil Dead obviously became quite a.

34:31AdamI mean, certainly over here became part of the Video Nasty's list.

34:38AdamSo it was expected to appear on video, but I suppose they weren't really.

34:44AdamAgain, it was like, it's movies, they aren't necessarily gonna be at your fingertips.

34:49LeeYeah.

34:50AdamEvery time, because even then it would have probably been more like rental rather than owning the tape itself.

34:56AdamSo.

34:57AdamMaybe they were like of the opinion that it's like, well, we can do this recap because it won't necessarily be.

35:01AdamBasically, no one's gonna fucking marathon it.

35:03LeeYeah.

35:05AdamWhich obviously, no, they will now.

35:06AdamBut, yeah.

35:07AdamAt the time that wasn't even a.

35:09AdamAnd, yeah.

35:09AdamSo that's why it's, but this was something that I.

35:13AdamI was really sort of astounded when sort of reading about it, because I mean, it sorts back to Evil Dead.

35:19AdamAs well, and it's a a section in my notes that I've titled, 'Hail to the King, Baby'.

35:23AdamBecause.

35:25AdamBasically, after this, Sam Raimi, Sam Raimi, the director and Rob Tapert, the producer, did, a film called Crime Wave, which flopped.

35:34Adam

35:34Adambut the, the original Evil Dead was Stephen King had been instrumental in getting it noticed because he'd raved about it in a screening after seeing it at Can.

35:43AdamAnd then the marketing team from like the Evil Dead had said, well, said to Sam Raimi, can we get Stephen King to provide a quote for the poster?

35:52AdamSo they rang up Stephen King, who basically said, I'll do better than that, and he did a three-page fucking review of the movie for Twilight Zone magazine.

35:57LeeBloody Nora.

35:58AdamFrom which they took the poster quote of the most ferociously original film horror film of 1982.

36:03Adamand, yeah, so Stephen King was really like the champion.

36:06Adamthat got got the film notice and got it put into distribution.

36:11AdamSo it actually sort of had some advertising.

36:13Adamhad some outlet.

36:13AdamAnd people got to know about it.

36:16Adam

36:17Adamand then.

36:18AdamThey were trying to get, after Crime Wave went, went sort of south, they'd been writing this during Crime Wave.

36:25AdamAnd they were like, okay, so we'll, we'll just do Evil Dead 2.

36:27AdamStill can't get any funding for it.

36:29AdamAnd then at the time, Stephen King was doing Maximum Overdrive.

36:35Adamwith, the Dino de Laurentiis production company, like Dino de Laurentiis was this, is this producer who's like near mythical, who did, like, Flash Gordon and Manhunter.

36:43AdamAnd just loads of, and Dune, David Lynch's Dune is de Laurentiis.

36:47AdamAnd.

36:47LeeWow.

36:48AdamYeah, he was having lunch with Stephen King, because they he was Stephen, he was producing like Maximum Overdrive.

36:53AdamAnd, Stephen King was like, yeah, look, they're trying to do Evil Dead.

36:58AdamAnd he basically persuaded him to put up the money to make Evil Dead 2.

37:02LeeWow.

37:02LeeI did not know that.

37:05AdamSo.

37:06LeeHe's a man,

37:06Leeisn't he?

37:07LeeStephen King is, he just bleeds into everything we do, really, he's just such a massive, he's a massive part of horror, like way more than just the stuff that he writes and is fully hands on involved in.

37:17LeeHe's been molding the, he's a master of horror.

37:18LeeHe's been molding the genre for fucking decades.

37:21AdamIt's.

37:21AdamIt's that lovely thing of seeing someone who's a fan.

37:23LeeYeah.

37:24AdamYou know what I mean, I don't think Stephen King, I mean, I mean, obviously, his main, his main output during lockdown was baiting Trump all the time on Twitter, which was fantastic.

37:33AdamBut.

37:36AdamBut,

37:37AdamYeah, he is essentially that's his sort of first, you know, he always remains a fan of horror.

37:46Adam'Cause I mean, obviously, he was the one who raved about like Clive Barker.

37:49AdamAnd like Evil Dead and various and I mean, even stuff like, okay, for every time, I mean, admittedly, in my head,

37:55Adamhe doesn't like the Kubrick version of The Shining, which to me is like moaning about the school that turned your kid into a hot shot lawyer.

38:02AdamBecause you'd wanted them to be a doctor.

38:06AdamBut,

38:07Adamother than that, you know, there's certain things like The Mist.

38:11AdamI mean, The Mist is a film.

38:12AdamI would love to cover on the show.

38:14LeeYeah, that always made it to the what I've been watching, but we only watched it.

38:16LeeOh, right.

38:17LeeYeah.

38:18LeeSo I left it off.

38:18LeeWe went back and rewatched it in the black and white version.

38:21AdamOh.

38:22LeeAs Adam bought us the DVD that has both the color and the black and white version.

38:24LeeI just wanna go back to The Shining for a second.

38:25LeeHave you read it?

38:28AdamNo.

38:28LeeSo, because it would be fascinating to read it and see if like you could see where he's coming from.

38:33LeeIn that he doesn't like film because the film is great, you know.

38:35AdamI have seen the TV mini series version of The Shining, which sticks to the book.

38:37Lee

38:37LeeAnd so.

38:38AdamMore closely.

38:38LeeDoes he like that?

38:39AdamWhich which, yeah,

38:40Adamthat has his full approval.

38:41AdamThat's directed by, Mick Garris.

38:44AdamAnd yeah, Stephen King really likes that version.

38:46AdamBut that version sticks very much to his.

38:48LeeYeah.

38:48AdamHis original vision, much more to to the book.

38:51AdamLike there's stuff like.

38:52Adamthere's topiarian animals in the the maze that come to life.

38:56AdamAnd obviously that's not in the Kubrick version.

38:57AdamAnd things like that.

38:58AdamFrom what I gather, I think the whole thing was essentially a disagreement of philosophy in so much as Stephen King and Stanley Kubrick had differing opinions about what ghosts indicated.

39:08LeeYeah.

39:08AdamIn that Stephen, I think Stephen King was kind of hopeful that ghosts represented that there was something else that there was an afterlife.

39:15AdamThat there was something beyond.

39:16AdamWhereas I think Stanley Kubrick considered that to be more disturbing.

39:19AdamEspecially because it then meant that you could be trapped in perpetuity as the caretaker of the fucking Overlook and tormented for all eternity.

39:26AdamAnd and you know, it's one of those ones.

39:27AdamWhere you can sort of, I can see both sides.

39:29AdamBut I I think it might have just been that he just got angry because he didn't have to topiarian animals.

39:38AdamAnd there's like, no.

39:38LeeNo, no coke.

39:39AdamBut,

39:40Adambut back to, but like back to The Mist,

39:42AdamStephen King now says, oh, the they altered the ending.

39:45LeeI'm not gonna.

39:45LeeOh, no.

39:45AdamI'm not gonna go into it, but they altered the ending of The Mist.

39:48AdamAnd Stephen King said, that's better.

39:49AdamThat is the, that is the true version of The Mist.

39:51LeeThat is literally one of the best endings to a movie I've ever seen, and it's one of the only times I've ever, I believe I genuinely stood out of my seat and went, oh, fuck.

39:58AdamYeah.

40:00AdamYeah, that was pretty much my reaction.

40:03LeeIt just.

40:04LeeI've never seen anything quite that absolutely.

40:09LeeIt's it's a fantastic movie, if you haven't seen it, go and watch it.

40:14LeeIt is worth the last thirty seconds of that film.

40:15LeeTo just be utterly devastated.

40:19AdamYeah.

40:20AdamI think the,

40:22Adamand also, apparently, like Dino de Laurentiis had a,

40:27Adamagreement with the MPAA, like the American classification board, that he wouldn't release anything that was like R-rated.

40:35AdamSo, they actually set up a a production company called Rosebud, which is the production company for Evil Dead 2.

40:43AdamSo technically it's Dino de Laurentiis's company.

40:45AdamLike DEG.

40:47AdamBut they're using a different name to get around a loophole that was this thing that they wouldn't be allowed to make eighteen films.

40:54LeeSee.

40:55LeeBut I loved that, I it's one of the things I actually made note about, yeah, it's that that initial Rosebud thing.

40:59LeeBecause it's such a, it's such a, a kind of nineties, I know it was the eighties, but it was that very nineties looking, it's a picture of a rose with a terrible CGI background.

41:05LeeIt's got a very lovely sound and then it just hits you with Evil Dead 2 just fucking out of the blue and you're like, oh, I didn't see that coming.

41:10LeeThat's horrible.

41:12LeeIt just makes it feel.

41:12Leeall the worse for showing you something lovely and then doing that to you.

41:18AdamBleach.

41:19LeeIt's.

41:20LeeIt's and also apparently like.

41:21Leeyeah, the he was, he was doing a film.

41:23LeeBruce Campbell was doing a film where he was basically this sleazy nightclub singer in Vegas.

41:30LeeAnd then something happens and it's basically him and about three other people are left on the planet.

41:34LeeAnd it's like him trying to trace his way across the planet to to solve something.

41:38LeeAnd it's just him and the go-go dancer that he'd called he'd called the night before that they've ended up stuck together and having to think.

41:46LeeAnd I'm pretty sure it was something to do with Alejandro Grias.

41:48LeeBut I might be.

41:49LeeI'm getting my wires crossed there and it's something else.

41:50LeeI'm not sure.

41:52Lee

41:53LeeYeah.

41:54LeeI doesn't.

41:55LeeThere's something about Bruce Campbell.

41:56LeeThat's just so massively awesome.

41:59LeeLike,

42:00Leeif you take a film like,

42:01LeeBubba Ho-Tep.

42:03AdamOh, yeah.

42:03LeeI love Bubba Ho-Tep, it is, it is on our list of thirty films that we really should have covered before we reached a hundred.

42:08LeeWe're now at a hundred and twenty odd episodes in and we still haven't covered it.

42:12Lee

42:13LeeBut yeah, like that,

42:14Leethat film in concept is a wacky concept that could so easily have just fallen over and not gone anywhere.

42:19LeeBut as soon as you put Bruce Campbell in that lead role, it works.

42:22AdamYeah.

42:23LeeIt can't fail.

42:24LeeAnd it it absolutely

42:27Leesmashes it.

42:28LeeYou know, like you were saying.

42:30LeeThe name tells me nothing about the film, then.

42:31LeeI'm assuming.

42:34LeeSo.

42:35LeeNo.

42:35LeeSo, just a very.

42:37LeeQuick.

42:37Leeelevator pitch.

42:38LeeFor Bubba Ho-Tep.

42:39LeeElvis didn't really die.

42:39LeeHe'd had enough of fame and swapped places with an Elvis impersonator.

42:43LeeSo Elvis is now in a retirement home.

42:46Leeand a Egyptian mummy is also hiding out in that retirement home and is sucking the life out of old people.

42:54LeeAnd the only people who know about it is Elvis.

42:58LeeAnd the guy he shares a room with, who is an old black man who genuinely believes that he's John F Kennedy.

43:05AdamAnd that's because Kennedy's brain went missing, generally, in real life, Kennedy's brain went missing after the autopsy.

43:13AdamAnd so he's convinced that Kennedy's he is Kennedy.

43:15AdamBut put in a different body.

43:18LeeIf you need any more fucked up ideas for a movie, please let me know.

43:20LeeBecause I have.

43:21AdamAnd the ancient, the ancient mummy writes rude hieroglyphs in the toilets.

43:28LeeAnd he affects, does the nasty, I think, was what he.

43:29AdamYeah.

43:30LeeHe

43:31LeeYeah.

43:32LeeBut yeah,

43:33LeeI mean, that's,

43:33AdamI mean,

43:34Adamthat's a terrific film.

43:35AdamI think.

43:35AdamYeah,

43:36Adamthat, that we're definitely, we've definitely got to cover.

43:40Adam'Cause I think, I mean, it's just so bloody funny.

43:43AdamAnd weird.

43:43AdamAnd odd.

43:43AdamThat

43:44Adamthe.

43:45AdamReally, that's the stuff I like.

43:46AdamI like the odd.

43:48AdamAnd I'm saying Evil Dead 2.

43:48Adamdefinitely counts in the odd.

43:50AdamThe.

43:51AdamOh, and the giant face that comes through the door.

43:57AdamYeah.

43:58AdamThe giant demon head.

43:59LeeRight.

44:01LeeBut get this.

44:03LeeI mean, we're we're one off from, like last time when we did Blair Witch and it was, oh, we'll take the camera back and get the money.

44:07LeeYeah.

44:09Lee

44:10LeeWith this.

44:10LeeThey just were like, oh, that's so fucking heavy, because they filmed they filmed it in,

44:14Leethey filmed it in North Carolina.

44:16Leein a place called Waynesboro.

44:18LeeAnd,

44:19Leeyeah.

44:21LeeThey just decided, oh,

44:21Leethis is just too heavy, we'll leave it here.

44:24LeeSo they just.

44:24LeeThey didn't bother taking the head away when they left, and then the head went missing.

44:29LeeNo one knows what happened to it for years, and then it turned up in a Halloween haunted house attraction just outside Waynesboro.

44:33LeeWhere obviously someone had got it and just been using it for fucking years.

44:36LeeThey're like,

44:36LeeI'm free, giant demon head.

44:39LeeYeah.

44:40LeeWhy wouldn't you, I mean, if it's just sitting.

44:42LeeIt's funny, 'cause seeing it this time, I was like, shit, that is exact, it looks exactly like the one in Hellraiser.

44:45LeeThat chases them down the tunnel.

44:46LeeYeah.

44:46LeeYeah, it's like it's got that same.

44:48LeeIt has.

44:48LeeDefinitely got that same look to it.

44:49LeeDefinitely.

44:50Leeand actually.

44:51LeeThe,

44:52Leeand actually filming in North Carolina.

44:54LeeNorth Carolina.

44:55LeeObviously quite warm.

44:56LeeThey were having a heat wave.

44:58LeeAnd, Ted Raimi, like Sam's brother, who plays, Henrietta, like the possessed Henrietta.

45:07Leethey were literally pouring sweat out of that suit into like cups.

45:12LeeOh, God.

45:13LeeYeah.

45:14LeeAnd you can actually see at certain points in the film that it's coming out of it's coming out of the ear.

45:16LeeThere's just like water coming out.

45:18LeeWhere it's just him sweating.

45:19LeeAnd, yeah, apparently it was just like horrific, because, yeah, it's pounds and pounds of latex.

45:24LeeWhich would make you do that anyway in the middle of a heat wave in the middle of one of the hottest parts of the country.

45:27LeeThat is suffering.

45:29LeeFor your art.

45:30LeeThat is suffering for your brother because he bullies you.

45:31LeeThat's why.

45:32LeeI think that is.

45:33LeeI love Ted Raimi.

45:33LeeHe's one of those people.

45:34LeeWho I don't think he gets as much props as he deserves, really.

45:37LeeYou for this.

45:38LeeI mean, in Twin Peaks.

45:39LeeHe was fantastic in.

45:40LeeI think he just.

45:41LeeYeah.

45:41LeeAgain.

45:41LeeHe was one of.

45:42LeeWell, it's also just like, I mean, Candyman, I'd completely forgotten he was in Candyman.

45:45LeeAnd like.

45:46LeeYou know,

45:47Leeit's just weird.

45:49LeeHe just gets all these weird little bit parts.

45:50LeeAnd stuff like that, but actually he's always really good in them.

45:52LeeAnd one thing he's really good at, oddly.

45:54LeeAnd this is out of makeup.

45:54LeeHe's oddly good at menacing.

45:57LeeIf he's playing a bad guy for Guimo Del Toro, I don't know if I could control myself from tearing the screen.

45:59LeeBecause.

46:01LeeI think they would just combine to make such a fucking asshole.

46:05LeeThey would be trouble.

46:07LeeYeah.

46:07LeeSo we should probably.

46:08LeeYeah.

46:08LeeSo we should probably wrap this up.

46:10Leeyeah.

46:11LeeThis film is fantastic.

46:12LeeAnd of course.

46:13LeeIt then does lead to Army of Darkness.

46:14LeeWhich.

46:14LeeSo surely.

46:15LeeSurely.

46:15LeeThat's on our list.

46:16LeeThat is definitely on our list.

46:17LeeAnd it definitely won't be three fucking years before we watch Army of Darkness.

46:21LeeI promise.

46:22LeeIt is.

46:22LeeIt's I was just saying, I was surprised about the quality of stuff that Jennifer was putting on our Halloween watch list.

46:24LeeArmy of Darkness is one of those.

46:26Leenot seen it in, I've probably not seen it in three or four years.

46:28LeeAnd yeah, a bit like this, it's one of those, I don't feel like I need to watch it all the time.

46:31Leebecause I always appreciate it.

46:34LeeBut then when you do watch it, you go, yeah, but I should definitely appreciate it more than I do, I think, really.

46:43LeeIt just works on so many levels.

46:45LeeAnd this is a fantastic.

46:45Leeentry level film.

46:47LeeA lot of people have said.

46:48LeeSo if you've got someone who wants to get into horror, who possibly wants like an easy in, like we were saying, it's got fantastic horror.

46:56LeeBut because of the comedy, it kind of takes away from the horror and the gore to make it a lot more palatable for someone who isn't possibly quite so with the with the genre, really.

47:04LeeWell, I think I think it carries the balance much like American Werewolf, you know, in that it's of I mean American Werewolf, obviously, you know.

47:13Leemuch different in terms of, you know, certainly budgetary and number of actors and number of locations and stuff like that.

47:21LeeBut I think if you not only that, but also if you want to just give someone a cabin in the woods film, it's Evil Dead 2.

47:24LeeYeah.

47:25LeeBefore you go camping.

47:25LeeAlways.

47:26LeeIt's the one that show people just to give them another reason that camping is wank.

47:28LeeYeah.

47:31LeeThat's why they call it wanking.

47:32LeeRight.

47:33LeeSo,

47:33Leefor our next episode, which is gonna be out in the beginning of November.

47:36LeeWe were discussing earlier, because I had fucked the dates up and thought it was gonna be our last episode before Halloween.

47:42LeeWe're trying to find something truly Halloween.

47:43LeeAnd it's funny.

47:44LeeBecause only.

47:44LeeThis morning, I was like, I know we've got a list of stuff that we should have covered and we haven't.

47:47LeeBut I was like, what is the film most of all that we should have covered but we yet haven't.

47:53LeeAnd then Adam, as soon as I said, right, we need to do something Halloween.

47:56LeeAdam immediately came back with, we haven't covered Poltergeist.

47:59LeeAnd I was like, that's the exact same film that entered my mind not an hour before that text message.

48:03LeeSo.

48:04LeeClearly, we're both on the same page that.

48:06LeeWe really need to cover that as a classic that a hundred and twenty odd episodes in.

48:11LeeYeah.

48:11LeeI mean,

48:13Leethere are a lot of classics that are classics, but you don't you don't need to add it to your repertoire necessarily.

48:21LeeI think they draw people in.

48:22LeeBut you don't need.

48:24Leeto get to see it to get a subgenre perhaps, but this film, and Adam and I both said the same,

48:28Leewe both really appreciate it, neither of us have probably seen it in a decade.

48:31LeeSo.

48:32LeeYeah, it definitely drew.

48:34LeeWell, yeah,

48:35Leeit just works.

48:36LeeOn so many levels.

48:37LeeAnd this is a fantastic entry-level film, a lot of people have said.

48:41LeeSo if you've got someone who wants to get into horror, who possibly wants like an easy in, like we were saying, it's got fantastic horror, but because of the comedy, it kind of takes away from the horror and the gore to make it a lot more palatable for someone who isn't possibly quite so with the with the genre, really.

48:57LeeWell, I think I think it carries the balance much like American Werewolf, you know, in that it's of I mean American Werewolf, obviously, you know.

49:02Leemuch different in terms of, you know, certainly budgetary and number of actors and number of locations and stuff like that.

49:10LeeBut I think if you not only that, but also if you want to just give someone a cabin in the woods film, it's Evil Dead 2.

49:15LeeYeah.

49:16LeeBefore you go camping.

49:17LeeAlways.

49:18LeeIt's the one.

49:19Leeto show people.

49:19LeeJust to give them another reason that camping is wank.

49:22LeeYeah.

49:24LeeYeah.

49:25LeeThat's why.

49:25LeeThey call it wank.

49:27LeeRight.

49:28LeeSo,

49:29Leefor our next episode, which is gonna be out in the beginning of November, we were discussing earlier.

49:35Leebecause I had fucked the dates up and thought it was gonna be our last episode before Halloween, we're trying to find something truly Halloween.

49:42LeeAnd it's funny.

49:43LeeBecause only this morning, I was like, I know we've got a list of stuff that we should have covered and we haven't.

49:51LeeBut I was like, what is the film most of all that we should have covered but we yet haven't.

49:56LeeAnd then Adam said, as soon as I said, right, we need to do something Halloween, Adam immediately came back with, we haven't covered Poltergeist.

50:03LeeAnd I was like, that's the exact same film that entered my mind not an hour before that text message.

50:10LeeSo.

50:10LeeClearly, we're both on the same page that we really need to cover that as a classic.

50:14LeeThat a hundred and twenty odd episodes in.

50:17LeeYeah.

50:17LeeI mean,

50:19Leethere are a lot of classics that are classics.

50:20LeeBut you don't need to add it to your repertoire necessarily.

50:25LeeI think they draw people in, but you don't need.

50:28Leeto get to see it to get a subgenre perhaps, but this film, and Adam and I both said the same,

50:35Leewe both really appreciate it, neither of us have probably seen it in a decade.

50:40LeeSo, yeah, it definitely.

50:42LeeHas there been a poltergeist.

50:43LeeIn any of the other films that we've seen?

50:45Lee

50:46LeeGhostwatch.

50:47LeeYeah.

50:48LeeWhich again, is much more of a spoof documentary or a all live footage, whereas this is serious, this one.

50:54LeeOh, yeah.

50:55LeeWell, yeah,

50:56LeeGhostwatch was, don't you ghostwatch?

50:58LeeI watched that in the week as well, I didn't add it to the list because.

51:00LeeGood man.

51:00LeeI watch it all the fucking time.

51:02Leealso mentioned earlier.

51:04LeeJoe Watson was the name of the Poltergeist in the Enfield Haunting.

51:08LeeSo.

51:09LeeThat's true.

51:10LeeWe're watching.

51:11LeeIt's all come full circle.

51:12LeeTouchy noisy fall.

51:14LeeAdam's given me a funny look.

51:15Leeyeah,

51:16Leeyou know,

51:17Leeyou know, touchy, noisy, noisy is what Poltergeist do, not just, I'm not accusing him of being inappropriate.