Evil Dead II

0:23 Lee Good evening and welcome to horror. I'm Lee.

0:26 Chris I'm Chris.

0:27 Adam I'm Adam.

0:29 Lee Your greeting, Adam, that's really, really uncomfortable, I'm not gonna

0:30 Chris That's a happy hour.

0:34 Adam It was making me face anyway.

0:36 Chris It's because he's looking at Bruce Campbell there.

0:38 Adam Yeah.

0:39 Lee Oh.

0:39 Chris Makes me happy.

0:41 Lee It's a little bit too late for this now, but there will be spoilers, there will be swearing.

0:45 Lee Only spoilers on the main event, we don't do it on the, what we've been watching, which is

0:50 Chris Well, we try not to, unless, unless we get really excited.

0:53 Lee Or we get

0:54 Adam We try not to, we try not to, unless Lee goes, fuck it, I will spoil it, 'cause it's shit.

1:40 Lee I do that quite a lot.

1:41 Lee I'm such an asshole, I really am, I don't know how I live with me.

1:48 Adam We we don't.

1:49 Chris No, no, no, you're not, honest.

1:53 Lee So, this evening's main event is, because this is our Halloween episode, this is the episode we are releasing nearest to Halloween.

2:00 Lee So, for our Halloween episode, Adam has quite rightly reminded us that we haven't covered one of the best horror films, period.

2:12 Chris Honestly, right, every time we cover a film, probably like this one, then I think what was wrong with these two, and then I look back at what we've covered, I'm like, no, fair play.

2:22 Chris This is too difficult.

2:24 Adam Because they're cho between all this.

2:27 Adam It's a big pile, mate, you know.

2:29 Lee The problem is, it's not as big as the pile of crap that we managed to get you to avoid.

2:34 Lee Like, if you sat through that, that's the problem, if you picked out the, if you sat through the nine crap films to get to the good one,

2:42 Lee you'd look as old as we do, to be honest.

2:47 Adam And also, it has to be said, we covered Evil Dead

2:50 Adam in March 2019.

2:56 Chris Oh.

2:57 Adam And we're usually a bit quicker in getting to the sequel and stuff.

3:00 Lee Oh.

3:00 Adam You know.

3:01 Adam So, yeah, it's, it's been a while.

3:05 Adam There's, the the world is significantly different, especially because I found my my Blu-ray box of The Evil Dead was still in the cellophane, because obviously, we must have watched Evil Dead together.

3:17 Lee Yeah, oh yeah, of course we watched it here.

3:19 Adam Yeah.

3:20 Lee Oh, remember them days when we used to sit together and drink beer and then record.

3:24 Adam Yeah. And then once we'd recorded, we'd play touching games and.

3:29 Lee in the back row.

3:32 Adam Yeah.

3:34 Adam Now it's just a, now it's just a quick fumble with a, relative flow test.

3:42 Lee Right, so to get the, now I feel awful now, saying this after what we've just been discussing.

3:46 Lee But we do have a massive congratulations to throw out to friend of the show Joe, him and his good lady wife have just had a child.

3:56 Lee Congratulations.

3:57 Chris Oh, excellent.

3:58 Chris Congratulations.

3:59 Adam Full sprog droppage.

4:01 Adam yeah, congratulations.

4:04 Adam And, also, very sweet, he did actually message us to say, sorry I hadn't got around to listening to the episode until just now.

4:12 Lee It's like.

4:13 Adam You you were you, you know, you birth was taking place.

4:17 Adam And

4:19 Chris Frankly you can prioritize that if, if you really need to.

4:22 Adam You know, we we won't take offense.

4:26 Lee I'll tell you what.

4:27 Adam We're not.

4:28 Lee Go on.

4:30 Adam Now I was just gonna say we're not your employer.

4:32 Lee Yeah.

4:32 Adam So we won't, we won't take offense that you've had a child.

4:38 Lee but what I did realize the other day, actually, that I do wanna put the question out and and have Joe let us know.

4:45 Lee So, I, I don't feel, see, normally, I avoid using people's surnames, like I don't use any of our surnames, not 'cause we've done anything, but just 'cause, you know, there's no need to.

4:56 Adam Protect the innocent and uphold the law.

4:58 Lee Exactly.

4:58 Lee but his name is his username on, Instagram, so I don't mind too much.

5:04 Lee So, Joe Watson, but I suddenly realized, I don't know if Joe Watson is his real name, because recently, listening back to a, a ghost podcast I listen to, and they were discussing

5:16 Lee The Enfield Haunting and the name that the ghost gave the young girl in that, obviously, bullshit haunting,

5:21 Lee was Joe Watson.

5:23 Lee So I don't know if that's his real name, or if like us, he's a nerd who has just gone

5:27 Lee That's a great name to use, you know, a bit like Ingrid Cold.

5:30 Chris Let us know, Joe.

5:31 Chris This is

5:32 Chris an ask Joe Watson.

5:33 Lee Yes, ask Joe Watson.

5:34 Adam Ask Joe Watson.

5:35 Lee Or, also,

5:36 Adam He's

5:36 Lee if Joe Watson is his real name, and he's gonna, when he dies, go back in time, Terminator styley, and haunt some people in Enfield.

5:41 Lee That could be interesting.

5:43 Adam It's, it's when you read the the byline on his Instagram page and it says, I had an average in a chair.

5:51 Adam That you might get the inkling that he is taking it from The Enfield Podcast, I don't know.

5:57 Lee Sorry to embarrass you, Joe.

5:58 Lee But,

5:58 Lee There you go.

6:00 Adam He's, clearly, I think Lee's just had too much time on his hands, he's been overthinking.

6:04 Lee Yeah.

6:05 Lee I I would have been, except, I discovered a new, series of films this, I'll cover it in what I've been watching.

6:11 Lee I discovered a new series of films this morning, and watched two of the three films just today.

6:16 Lee So, I have got too much time on my hands.

6:18 Chris That is a busy day.

6:19 Lee I can see a box set artwork cover from Arrow and immediately spent three hours of my day just watching Japanese horror.

6:29 Adam Oh.

6:30 Chris Damn pandemic.

6:32 Lee We'll, yeah, we'll come back to that.

6:34 Lee Chris.

6:35 Lee What have you been watching?

6:37 Chris I have been watching something that somebody recommended.

6:42 Chris And it could well be you.

6:44 Lee Hey.

6:44 Chris It's the Lego Star Wars, what's it called?

6:49 Lee Lego Star Wars.

6:51 Adam Tales of terror.

6:52 Chris Tales of terror.

6:53 Chris That's the one.

6:55 Chris Yeah, no, we looked at it, we thought, yeah, this this looks probably child-friendly.

7:01 Chris They've seen the other two Lego films, we haven't seen The Lego Batman, though.

7:05 Chris I don't know if that

7:06 Lee That's very.

7:06 Lee It's not as good as The Lego Films, but it

7:08 Chris Okay, still good.

7:09 Chris Yeah, all right, so, you know, Lego's doing a good job here.

7:12 Chris Disney, still doing a good job.

7:15 Chris like I I enjoyed it.

7:16 Chris yeah.

7:19 Chris It, it what was it?

7:21 Chris Actually, it showed me the, the Darth Maul back story.

7:26 Chris Which I quite, I do quite like the fact that they poke fun at the, yeah, the stories, you know, that could perhaps be taken either way by different people, but I quite enjoy that.

7:38 Chris and yeah, and so, so yeah,

7:40 Chris that was good to see Darth Maul going down to, I can't remember the planet name.

7:44 Chris But the, is it The Night Sisters?

7:48 Adam Yes.

7:48 Chris Who are having

7:49 Chris called, yeah, I don't exactly know what they are.

7:52 Chris Like, then they're, 'cause it's a bit weird, isn't it, I mean, you don't, there hasn't been magical or supernatural types in Star Wars, have, has there, aside from Jedi and Sith?

8:00 Adam Yeah.

8:02 Lee So I think

8:03 Adam This is this is where we need, this is where we need ways.

8:06 Chris Yes.

8:07 Chris We do.

8:08 Adam prowess.

8:08 Chris Yeah.

8:09 Chris So we probably should cover this.

8:11 Adam Yeah.

8:12 Adam I think I I I too watched it as well.

8:16 Chris Okay.

8:17 Adam and thought it was rather fun as well.

8:22 Adam though at one point Claire said, what is the best impression in this?

8:28 Adam What out?

8:29 Adam You know, the flappy blue elephant man.

8:31 Chris Yeah.

8:32 Adam And I pointed out that it's probably the same bloke.

8:35 Chris Yeah.

8:36 Adam Because they because Danny Mendez is all like proper voice over artists doing it.

8:40 Adam Rather than, oh, I'm mates, I'm, I live three doors down from Eli Roth and he wants a part in it.

8:46 Adam Can he be a stormtrooper?

8:50 Chris but now, who is the voice of the Emperor?

8:52 Chris 'Cause

8:53 Chris is it Srey?

8:55 Chris Like it can't be, can it, but does it not sound like him?

8:57 Chris That's that's who I kept thinking.

8:59 Adam It does sound.

8:59 Adam At first I thought it might have been Mark Hamill.

9:01 Adam But it's not.

9:02 Chris Okay.

9:03 Adam 'Cause it sounded a bit like his Joker.

9:06 Chris He does, he does do some impressive voices, Mark Hamill.

9:09 Adam Yeah, he does.

9:10 Chris He's he's a talented man.

9:13 Adam And it would make sense because then at least you have your Luke covered as well.

9:16 Chris Yeah, yeah, definitely.

9:21 Lee Excellent.

9:21 Lee Cool, so well done for catching up on that.

9:24 Lee Adam.

9:26 Lee What have you been watching?

9:28 Adam Literally, that.

9:30 Lee Nice.

9:32 Adam I've watched that.

9:34 Chris Now, did, did Ted enjoy it?

9:37 Adam Did watch it with Ted.

9:38 Chris Oh, right.

9:39 Adam I genuinely, I genuinely just got,

9:44 Adam the best way I can describe it is, that bit in Alan Partridge where he goes,

9:52 Adam I'll be honest with you, Lynn, I'm at loose ends.

9:55 Adam So I just got completely, and in the end it was like, so I watched that, and then Monk and Kenna Teller videos and, bits of this is Jinsy and stuff like that, just because

10:08 Adam I genuinely could not think of what to watch.

10:11 Adam So, but yes, I did watch, the terrifying tales, and,

10:17 Adam was and found most heartily that I did laugh.

10:20 Adam So, yes.

10:22 Lee I can't say I really enjoyed it, but I've got this.

10:24 Lee not to be too topical, but yeah, at the time, it had just happened at the time, so I didn't realize everybody had this ridiculous cold that I had and still have.

10:33 Lee yeah, it just wiped my memory of the evening.

10:36 Lee I remember putting it on, I remember the first five minutes.

10:39 Lee And beyond that, I've just got my notes to go by.

10:42 Lee It knocked me out.

10:44 Adam Yeah.

10:47 Adam Yeah, no, it's, I mean, to be honest, it's, it's quite fun to to be sharing again in terms of disease.

10:53 Lee

10:54 Adam You know, and and and even, you know, despicable attitudes at work.

10:58 Adam It's nice that people are feeling able to share them.

11:00 Adam So.

11:00 Adam But

11:01 Chris There was a bit of a time when we were sort of grouping together as a, you know, a unified.

11:05 Chris species, but that's all gone now.

11:07 Adam Oh, yeah, no.

11:07 Adam Fuck that.

11:08 Adam It's back to pull the ladder up, Jack, fuck the rest.

11:12 Adam But, but yes, unfortunately, because, the box set of, Blu-ray box set of Trial of the Time Lord came out.

11:16 Adam So I've mostly been watching that.

11:18 Adam So.

11:18 Lee That is absolutely fair.

11:21 Lee This is not a job, it is a hobby.

11:23 Lee So, don't feel obligated to overwatch stuff.

11:27 Adam To be honest, I think there's also an element where I've been like,

11:30 Adam everyone's been going on about Halloween.

11:32 Adam And I'm like, I'm I'm always watching

11:35 Adam horror films and supernatural stuff.

11:38 Adam So, in a weird way, I think I might have gone on holiday for Halloween.

11:40 Adam And it's just like, yeah, you know, just, I'm like, you know, Squid Game.

11:43 Adam Okay, you could, oh, asking for a friend.

11:46 Adam particularly as we could cover it, possibly, if the answer's yes.

11:53 Adam do you consider Predator a horror film, or could it be construed as a horror film?

11:57 Lee Yes, absolutely.

11:59 Adam Yeah.

12:00 Adam Oh, that's what I was thinking as well.

12:02 Adam Yeah, now, just 'cause, Claire said the other day she hasn't seen Predator.

12:05 Adam So I was gonna show her at the weekend.

12:07 Adam But I was also thinking, yeah, we could probably cover that.

12:10 Adam But I think we've got to cover Alien before we cover Predator.

12:14 Adam just out of sheer loyalty to the Xenomorph.

12:18 Lee I'm not gonna lie, I prefer Predator.

12:21 Lee I know I'm in the minority.

12:23 Chris No, no, no, that's that's difficult.

12:25 Chris I I've seen Predator once, and I saw it fairly late on, you know, in life, not when everyone else saw it.

12:31 Chris There's a big surprise, but, but I don't, yeah,

12:33 Chris and the same for Alien.

12:34 Chris In fact, I've seen Aliens, I haven't seen Alien.

12:37 Chris And I don't know.

12:38 Adam That that seems to be a lot of people.

12:41 Chris Yeah, well I guess I was just old enough to kind of get away with watching Aliens when it came out.

12:44 Chris but obviously Alien was a bit earlier, and so then it's like we, I guess you wouldn't rush to go back necessarily unless it somebody said, you've really got to watch this.

12:52 Adam Yeah, 'cause apart from, apart from Ripley, you don't really need much of a, you don't need to have seen that to understand every fucking last nuance of Aliens.

13:01 Adam Because Ripley comes out of prior sleep and tells you what happened.

13:04 Lee Yeah.

13:05 Chris Now, I actually, I listened, when going to sleep the other day, I listened to the Netflix documentary, The Movies That Made Us.

13:12 Chris And I listened to the Aliens episode.

13:15 Chris and it was really good.

13:16 Chris And I sort of think I should actually watch it properly.

13:18 Chris Because it was fascinating to hear, like the director and the producer and how it all came about and how Fox, we're like, yeah, we don't need Sigourney Weaver.

13:27 Chris And you know, it's like it nearly didn't happen.

13:30 Chris And then the fact that they stuck to it and they were like, no, we need Sigourney Weaver, and they sort of went behind Fox's back or something to get her.

13:37 Chris And and obviously it turned out great, because the people who knew what they were doing managed to do it.

13:41 Adam I cannot, I cannot even contemplate the idea of the Alien films without Ripley.

13:47 Lee Yeah.

13:48 Chris Yeah.

13:48 Adam Running through.

13:49 Chris Yeah.

13:50 Lee Absolutely.

13:50 Lee And again, that's, that's another good thing you bring up, although, I, I'm guessing none of us have seen it yet, I know I certainly haven't, the latest season of,

13:59 Lee The Movies That Made Us just came out.

14:01 Lee And it is, Halloween, Friday, and Elm Street.

14:06 Adam Oh, wow.

14:07 Lee Yeah.

14:08 Lee And then I realized, I hadn't seen the ones from Christmas, so I haven't seen the Night for Christmas or Elf either.

14:11 Lee So.

14:14 Lee I'm actually looking forward to Christmas for a change.

14:18 Chris But yeah, and you mentioned Squid Game, I'd forgotten that I did actually watch that, I sort of blitzed it so quickly.

14:23 Chris And that was like, that was that was nearly two weeks ago.

14:24 Adam You do a lot.

14:26 Chris Yeah, I got through them all.

14:27 Chris And and it like fantastic.

14:30 Chris I would say everyone watch it.

14:32 Chris It like for me, every episode built on the previous in a good way that added something new.

14:37 Chris And sort of still felt like a cohesive story, and yeah, characters were good.

14:40 Chris Yeah, it's just like,

14:42 Chris it was, it was way better than I was expecting.

14:46 Chris even right up to the end, I I liked it.

14:48 Chris And and I think you said, I was thinking this as I was watching it.

14:50 Chris You're like, you know, maybe don't make a a second.

14:55 Chris series, because that might take away from it.

14:57 Adam Yeah.

14:58 Adam Let it, let it.

15:00 Chris Yeah.

15:00 Adam I would prefer it that it was just this thing that I watched over the course of like four days.

15:06 Chris Yeah.

15:07 Adam That was fucking great for those four days.

15:10 Adam And then I can look back fondly on it and enjoy all the memes.

15:13 Chris Yeah.

15:13 Chris Absolutely.

15:14 Adam Of the, of the old boy sitting on his own in the corner.

15:20 Adam that are currently doing the rounds.

15:22 Adam But,

15:23 Lee I've luckily managed to avoid them because I haven't seen it yet.

15:26 Lee So.

15:27 Adam It's I mean they're they're not spoilery if it they're just a man looking very alone.

15:32 Adam So.

15:34 Adam But,

15:34 Adam I mean, definitely recommended, but also definitely recommended before it becomes

15:39 Adam lazy spoofs in in stuff, in about a year.

15:43 Adam You know,

15:43 Adam you know the usual way where it's like sort of like, you sort of, oh, BBC, look, BBC News have picked up on this trend that's online.

15:51 Adam That means it's over.

15:52 Adam So.

15:55 Chris Yeah, no, I definitely think it's worth a watch.

15:56 Lee Cool.

15:58 Lee So, I'll add it to the list, it won't be until after Halloween, obviously, but, it's definitely next on the list, I think, after Halloween.

16:04 Lee So, speaking of which,

16:06 Lee we've been cracking on through our Halloween watching.

16:09 Lee unlike Adam, I had a, a different response, which was,

16:14 Lee I sat down with Lady Jennifer one night, we went to the local pub, which we literally never do.

16:20 Lee and decided, as she had a pad and paper, we were gonna go through all the films that we definitely want to watch for Halloween.

16:26 Lee So he said, right, if we make a list of ten films or so,

16:30 Lee that'll give us enough to get through, give us a target, and we'll do it.

16:35 Lee so eighteen films later on the list, we are now struggling to crack to get through them all.

16:42 Lee so the ones we've watched so far.

16:45 Lee Beetlejuice re-watch for the first time in probably a decade.

16:49 Lee Holy shit, that film has me laughing so loud.

16:54 Lee It's unbelievable.

16:55 Chris It is too good.

16:58 Lee It's one of those films that it was amazing in the eighties and I can imagine it being very possible now.

17:05 Lee But actually, it's just, like,

17:07 Lee everything about it is so good.

17:09 Chris Still works so well.

17:12 Lee Catherine O'Hara and Michael Keaton just whoop it away.

17:17 Lee I mean, Winona Ryder's portrayal of a an angsty teenage girl is fantastic.

17:23 Lee But the comedy from them two just absolutely slays me.

17:28 Lee Yeah, the delivery is incredible.

17:31 Adam I think it's also it comes from that lovely point where Tim Burton hadn't gone twee.

17:39 Adam Do you know what I mean?

17:40 Adam Where it was like, oh no, it's a twisted fairy tale rather than just a fairy tale.

17:45 Lee Yeah.

17:48 Adam And, and obviously, like, like we've we said on our crossover episodes with not for everyone, it's also basically a weekend with Adam.

17:59 Lee Yeah.

18:01 Lee Yeah, it's just so much fun.

18:02 Lee Loved every minute of it.

18:04 Lee I saw the new Muppets, Haunted Mansion.

18:10 Adam Oh, I've yet to watch that.

18:11 Adam Yeah.

18:11 Lee Not a film, 'cause it's fifty minutes long, which kind of pissed me off, 'cause when it was first announced, it said an hour and a half on IMDb, the lying bastards.

18:20 Lee

18:22 Lee but,

18:22 Adam 'Cause they had to cut out all the Swedish chef because he's got in trouble and he's been cancelled online for some comments about the Holocaust.

18:29 Lee So.

18:34 Lee but yeah, I, I, I think the problem is, I really, I, I definitely enjoyed it.

18:38 Lee But, I am not the biggest fan of The Muppets.

18:41 Lee I'm not as big a fan as Waze, like,

18:43 Lee My, my knowledge of The Muppets is how much I love, Muppets Christmas Carol.

18:47 Chris

18:48 Lee And

18:49 Chris So what is, why is that different particularly?

18:51 Chris What is it about that that stands out for you?

18:53 Lee I think it was just one of those, I've never even seen the others, but Muppets Christmas Carol for me, came out, oh, I can't even remember, I think I was in my teens, I was too, I was older than I should have been to, I was older than when you show it to a child, but I wasn't old enough to be a parent showing it to a child either.

19:08 Chris Okay.

19:09 Lee

19:10 Lee but just something about it just kind of sparked to me and I was like,

19:13 Lee yeah, no, it's, it's nice.

19:15 Lee It takes me back to a time in my childhood that's, when everything's nice and lovely and soft and friendly.

19:22 Lee and Christmas films hadn't done that for a long time.

19:26 Lee And I, yeah, it just really,

19:28 Lee I I still believe that if it ever reaches Christmas Eve at midnight and I haven't yet watched Muppets Christmas Carol,

19:33 Lee we will end up in a perpetual Christmas Eve until such a point as I rectify it.

19:38 Lee It's, yeah.

19:39 Adam I mean,

19:40 Adam it could be worse, we've we've seen Krampus.

19:42 Lee Yeah.

19:48 Lee but yeah, so I think I was holding up.

19:49 Adam And you've not seen Muppets Treasure Island?

19:51 Adam No.

19:52 Lee I own it, I've not watched it yet.

19:54 Adam Change that, because you'll love it.

19:56 Adam And it's got bloody Tim Curry in it.

19:57 Lee Yeah.

19:58 Lee I think when I said, I think Waze asked me before if I'd seen it, I said no, and he literally told me to fuck off, which directly acceptable.

20:02 Chris Adam, Adam was getting a bit of that look.

20:04 Lee Yeah.

20:04 Chris When he was.

20:05 Adam I was, I was older than you, I'm not, I'm not quite as militant as Waze.

20:09 Adam Me and him rarely take a hard line on anything, but, you know, The Muppets is definitely one.

20:19 Adam so, oh, and if Claire's Claire's favorite Muppet film as well.

20:22 Lee Yeah.

20:23 Adam Muppets Treasure.

20:24 Lee Yeah.

20:26 Adam so she'll get stroppy as well.

20:27 Lee I'll definitely watch it.

20:28 Lee It's, it's one of them things it's on my list, but the amount of times I've suggested it to Jennifer, I've gone through all the things that are that we've bought that we've not yet watched.

20:38 Lee And she always goes, no, you know, when you suggested something a dozen times and it's been turned down.

20:42 Lee You're like, I'm not gonna fucking mention it, and once you stop mentioning it, you forget it exists.

20:46 Lee So.

20:47 Chris Like, the challenge is on.

20:48 Chris I'm, I'm gonna watch this before Lee, just so for she's gonna be aggro with him.

20:52 Adam Well, I'll just say this is a point of message to both Claire and D, yeah, same with Guardians of the Galaxy.

20:59 Adam Maybe I fucking it won't die.

21:00 Lee How have you not seen Guardians of the Galaxy?

21:03 Adam 'Cause I was being polite, I wanted to share it.

21:05 Adam And I was a fe.

21:06 Lee Oh.

21:07 Lee But it's so good, it makes me cry.

21:09 Chris Yeah.

21:10 Adam Admittedly, I did watch.

21:12 Adam I did, I did try and watch it with Ted because I thought,

21:16 Adam well, what's he gonna do, he can't complain that much.

21:19 Adam and then the opening dead parent bit was a bit sort of like,

21:24 Chris Yeah, that that is the,

21:25 Adam I don't wanna have to explain this to a fucking two-year-old.

21:28 Lee So.

21:30 Chris That is pretty much the only serious kind of bit.

21:31 Adam Yes.

21:32 Adam Unfortunately, it's right at the start.

21:34 Adam It's like.

21:35 Adam You know, it's not like, oh, look at that heartwarming hilarious film about the squareheaded old twat.

21:38 Adam Yeah, and he's floating out.

21:40 Chris And the first bit will kill you.

21:42 Adam Yeah.

21:42 Adam Because it's because it's Disney, because it's Pixar, and they drink the tears of children.

21:46 Chris Yeah.

21:49 Lee But luckily, they don't do that on the Haunted Mansion.

21:51 Lee

21:53 Adam Yeah.

21:54 Lee to drag it back around.

21:56 Lee I mean, it it's really good.

21:58 Lee I I enjoyed it.

22:00 Lee yeah, unfortunately it didn't make me eight years old, but that is my only, my only problem with it.

22:05 Lee I think it's one of those things, if you showed it to a kid now,

22:09 Lee like, if you guys showed it to your kids, I think they would grow up with it being a Charlie Brown type classic, it,

22:15 Lee Yeah, but watching it as a forty-year-old man, I was like, yeah, it was good, but.

22:23 Lee so move on from that.

22:25 Lee So next thing, again, as I just said, as a forty-year-old man, Addams Family 2, the animated version, finally got around to watching.

22:33 Lee If you enjoyed the first one, definitely watch it.

22:36 Lee It's every bit as good, it's probably one of those, I'll go back to it every couple of years.

22:39 Lee It's definitely enjoyable, you can watch it any time of the year.

22:42 Lee It's fantastic.

22:44 Lee yeah.

22:45 Lee And it's good.

22:45 Adam Do you enjoy it?

22:47 Adam I did enjoy the first, like, I did enjoy the first animated one.

22:53 Adam 'Cause I'll be honest, I wasn't really that keen on the films.

22:55 Adam Even though they've got excellent cast and everything, I was just,

23:00 Adam yeah, they're just a bit a bit weaker.

23:02 Adam Off.

23:03 Lee Yeah, no, I I absolutely agree.

23:07 Lee Yeah, whereas the kind of worked more of an animation because they could do more over the top stupidity with it that they obviously couldn't do.

23:24 Lee So yeah, no, I'm totally with you.

23:26 Lee Both of the films are enjoyable, but like, once every seven or eight years, I wouldn't regularly, it's one of those you go back to rewatch it because you remember nothing about it.

23:35 Lee Rather than going back because of the things you remember.

23:43 Adam You're not revisiting past glories, you're just, right, I genuinely can't remember.

23:48 Adam I did see it.

23:49 Lee Yeah.

23:50 Lee I saw it and I didn't hate it.

23:52 Lee So.

23:53 Lee I still own it, and I didn't throw it at somebody with and shout words out, so therefore it must be good.

23:59 Lee also, so I finally got around to watching the 1974 Dracula with Jack Palance.

24:08 Adam Oh, yes.

24:10 Lee I, I've avoided this forever, because, as much as I love Dracula, I could not see Jack Palance ever playing Dracula.

24:17 Lee I was wrong.

24:18 Adam

24:19 Lee He was genuinely really well cast in this, and he, although he's a very different Dracula,

24:24 Lee it kind of worked in a funny way, and and the supporting cast was fantastic as well.

24:29 Lee So, I mean, that definitely added to it.

24:32 Lee But yeah.

24:33 Adam I think that's what you want, isn't it?

24:34 Adam Though, you don't want everyone to try and do Bella Lugosi.

24:37 Lee Yeah.

24:38 Adam You do you do want someone to give it their own.

24:41 Adam Stamp or their own variant on it.

24:43 Lee Yeah.

24:44 Lee Absolutely.

24:46 Lee And it yeah, I was I was really surprised and again, it changed the story enough that I found it interesting without being like,

24:54 Lee oh, this is just, you know, trying to fill in all the gaps that were missing or, you know, try and do anything new with it in a desperate kind of way.

25:00 Lee I I thought it worked really well, it was really well written.

25:03 Lee I think it was Dan Curtis, wasn't it,

25:04 Lee who directed it as well?

25:05 Lee it was Dan Curtis, yeah.

25:08 Adam Yeah.

25:10 Adam 'Cause I think the, what you're saying is it didn't do the third series of the BBC Dracula.

25:15 Lee Yeah.

25:16 Adam The third.

25:17 Adam episode, rather.

25:18 Lee Yeah, and again,

25:20 Lee but it it it did in the same way that I kind of felt it, it told us a story as we know that we're comfortable with and we enjoy and what we're there for.

25:28 Lee But added enough extra stuff, that it was like, this isn't just another rehash of the same shit.

25:35 Lee So in the same way as the BBC one, as you say, the first two episodes did a really good job of

25:39 Lee Yeah, bringing both of those elements together.

25:41 Lee I felt the same with this one.

25:43 Lee

25:44 Lee but I haven't finished it yet, so there's another half hour yet.

25:47 Lee So it could shit on me yet.

25:48 Lee Let's not forget us, that was a fantastic movie for the first hour.

25:50 Lee So it's not count our chick.

25:52 Adam Yes.

25:53 Lee and finally.

25:55 Lee so Arrow have just released a box set, and I saw that they'd posted it, and then two posts later, I saw that you had liked it.

26:04 Lee and it's the, is it Yokai monsters, Youkai monsters from the sixties?

26:08 Adam Oh, yes, yes.

26:12 Lee

26:14 Lee So I went and had a Google and saw a trailer, and then saw that they're all available on archive.org.

26:21 Lee In obviously a kind of VHS quality shit version.

26:23 Adam

26:25 Lee

26:26 Lee yeah, and although I can't see myself splurging out any time soon 'cause of current events.

26:32 Lee I will definitely,

26:33 Adam Well, at the moment it's very likely we're gonna have to make a down payment on a Scott egg come the new year.

26:38 Lee Yeah.

26:39 Lee Yeah.

26:39 Lee Precisely, so sixty quid on a box set of Japanese horror.

26:41 Lee Might be a little bit of a push.

26:42 Lee But,

26:43 Lee oh, it just, they're such fun films.

26:46 Lee They're fucking bonkers.

26:47 Adam Oh.

26:48 Lee It's, it's got all the the beauty and the subtlety of Japanese filmmaking.

26:50 Lee And then they just kind of chuck on top of it.

26:51 Lee And,

26:52 Lee here are the monsters.

26:54 Lee Here's the monster that's an umbrella.

26:55 Lee With a leg and one eye and a massive tongue, and here's the monster that's like a normal woman with a six-foot neck.

26:57 Lee And oh, it's just,

27:00 Lee I watched two of the, I watched the first two films back to back today.

27:02 Lee And I'd watch the third one, but I ran out of time.

27:06 Lee So I really enjoyed them.

27:07 Lee They're really good.

27:09 Adam They are really good.

27:10 Adam And,

27:12 Adam they're, I mean, even for, even for Japanese monster movies, like, they're fucking weird.

27:20 Lee They are bat shit.

27:21 Adam You know, you know, and when you consider that say Mothra is mainstream.

27:26 Lee

27:27 Adam with with the two singing twins who like who are tiny and live in a box who bring Mothra out and just thousands of bizarre fucking things with it.

27:35 Adam But,

27:36 Adam yeah, no, they are,

27:40 Adam not only that, but also, I mean, again, there's no way on God's earth

27:43 Adam that I have got the finances to be, buying that.

27:50 Adam But guaranteed with Arrow, they will probably look the best they ever have.

27:55 Lee They're 4K restorations, don't, they're gonna look good.

27:58 Lee And I, I mean they're beautiful, again, Japanese cinema.

28:01 Lee And that's the thing.

28:02 Lee That's why I, I don't get chirpy, obviously,

28:04 Lee because that's not my style.

28:05 Lee But some people are just like, no, you should never have anything dubbed, it should always have the subtitles.

28:10 Lee And I'm like, yeah, but with Japanese films,

28:14 Lee I want to be looking all the time, because their sets and stuff are so astonishing.

28:19 Lee I don't want to be and they.

28:20 Chris Yeah.

28:21 Lee Again, something like this as well.

28:23 Lee At the beginning it was very dialogue-heavy.

28:25 Adam Yeah.

28:26 Lee So I literally felt like I was just reading a book and occasionally getting a couple of seconds to glimpse up at what was happening.

28:29 Lee

28:30 Lee once the ghosts all turn up, it it sort of changes and you can sort of catch up.

28:35 Lee But,

28:36 Adam Yeah.

28:37 Lee Yeah, so I'm hoping when the Arrow ones come out, they're gonna have a dubbed version, which I know a lot of people will call me a philistine for.

28:43 Lee But,

28:44 Lee I just wanna take in every second of that beauty, 'cause they're just, nineteen sixty-eight and they just look fantastic.

28:49 Lee Even the effects and stuff.

28:50 Lee I mean, some of it's pretty ropey.

28:51 Lee But the the woman with the really long neck, although you can see how it's all done, it looks incredible.

28:57 Adam Yeah.

28:58 Lee So good.

28:59 Adam Well, I think it's like even,

29:01 Adam like, it's like the film, the Japanese film House.

29:08 Lee

29:09 Adam where the effects in that border into the really ropey.

29:16 Adam But they have that sort of, for want of a better expression, mighty bush quality.

29:21 Adam Yeah, where it's like, how is something done so cheaply, actually a bit eerie or a bit creepy and so on.

29:24 Chris Yeah.

29:24 Chris And I think it's a similar sort of thing.

29:28 Chris But I I but also,

29:29 Chris Arrow usually are pretty good for releasing, like, they will usually have the dubs on there and everything else.

29:34 Chris Like that.

29:34 Chris Because subtitles aren't for everyone's taste.

29:36 Chris And not only that, but also, I mean, I've got, I can't even remember, I think it was like the first.

29:41 Chris first time I saw, Aguirre, Wrath of God.

29:45 Lee

29:45 Chris Is I decided to watch it, initially I watched it in German with the subtitles.

29:51 Chris But the subtitles were too colloquial.

29:55 Lee

29:56 Chris So it'd be like, so the subtitles would be like, hey, look at those guys.

30:02 Chris Whereas actually when you watched it with the dubs, they they'd kept it in a more medieval speak, so they're like a man approaches.

30:09 Chris Stuff like.

30:10 Chris That.

30:10 Chris And so I I ended up watching it with the dub.

30:12 Chris Because it didn't, it felt more in keeping with how the film should be.

30:16 Chris Rather than.

30:17 Lee It's funny how that.

30:18 Lee has such an effect, 'cause I I can't remember what it was.

30:20 Lee But I had I experienced that for the first time.

30:22 Lee you know, a little while ago, and I was surprised that just how much it changed the feeling of it.

30:26 Lee Just by having slightly different words.

30:28 Lee And it might, it might have been, it might have been House movie castle actually.

30:32 Lee

30:33 Lee and I think I'd never heard it in the English before.

30:35 Lee And perhaps it was now on Netflix with English, I don't know.

30:38 Lee It's something and it or it was just playing, and I was like, that's funny, this is saying like, yeah, it's really different what they're saying, and it really did affect it.

30:45 Lee So yeah,

30:46 Lee it's funny.

30:46 Chris It's funny you say that.

30:47 Chris That was that was what the Youkai films felt like.

30:50 Chris Was spirited away made in nineteen seventy, but live action.

30:55 Chris That was exactly what.

30:56 Lee Yeah.

30:56 Lee That is

30:57 Lee that is impressive.

30:58 Chris So it's just.

30:59 Lee That is a feat.

31:02 Chris and yeah, and that is everything we've caught up with.

31:03 Chris So,

31:04 Chris we should probably, as we've been going for quite some time now, get into the main event.

31:11 Chris Well I was thinking that's a good segway as well.

31:12 Chris 'Cause the effects, I could, I could apply what you said to this.

31:15 Chris Right.

31:16 Chris They are, you know, you could say they're kind of dated and they are a little bit cheap in some but a but amazing, like, just like, it works so perfectly.

31:23 Chris Anyway, now I'll let you.

31:24 Chris I finish introducing it.

31:26 Lee Ha.

31:26 Lee yeah.

31:27 Lee Evil Dead 2, we covered the first one.

31:30 Lee As Adam said, about three years ago, now it's about time we got around to it.

31:33 Lee It's.

31:34 Lee It's a, it's a very strange movie, and it has got that this is the only one that I like.

31:38 Lee I've watched three films, I can think of off top of my head, that are kind of a semi remake and a semi sequel, and this is the only one that works.

31:46 Lee And I still can't quite work out what they were going for with it, but,

31:52 Lee It's a, it's a stone cold classic in my opinion, it's absolutely amazing.

31:56 Adam The term Bruce Campbell.

31:57 Adam used is 'requel'.

31:59 Chris

32:00 Adam In that it's not quite a remake and it's not not quite a sequel, because the two things have sort of blurred.

32:06 Adam but I mean, actually, I mean, originally, the original idea for Evil Dead 2 was basically Army of Darkness.

32:20 Adam Is they wanted to push Ash back and do the.

32:23 Adam medieval Knights in Armor sort of story.

32:29 Adam And then I think they realized that actually they probably wouldn't necessarily be able to get the budget for that.

32:37 Adam but then they thought, well, we'll do some more stuff set around the cabin.

32:43 Adam 'Cause obviously,

32:44 Adam 'cause Evil Dead doesn't end just ends with Ash being attacked by the.

32:48 Adam the the unseen force, doesn't it, like just goes, camera goes up, black and then it's the credits or whatever.

32:53 Adam And so they were like, well, we could sort of continue from there and just have more going on.

32:57 Adam Like going on in the cabin.

33:00 Adam And then in their original idea for the script, they were like, right, so we'll put in the bits here from Evil Dead 1.

33:05 Adam So that.

33:06 Adam You know, to recap the story.

33:08 Adam

33:09 Adam but because they were with a different, because it was a different production company doing Evil Dead 2, they couldn't get the rights to Evil Dead 1.

33:19 Lee Oh.

33:21 Adam So even though they wrote and directed it and everything, obviously, it's it's New Line Cinema who actually owns it as the distributor.

33:25 Adam And they wouldn't let them have footage from The Evil Dead, basically they couldn't afford whatever they were asking for the footage from The Evil Dead.

33:31 Adam So they just went, fuck it, we'll do it as a different.

33:34 Chris Like change it enough.

33:34 Adam We'll sort of remake, well, not even change it enough, but change it enough so that they could get to the point they wanted to do the sequel from.

33:46 Adam So rather than having to redo the whole film, they were like, right, so it's just Ash.

33:50 Adam And, Linda that go, rather than a whole group of them go.

33:56 Adam 'cause I did see, I did see, I remember years and years ago seeing a lovely thing where someone said, you can read it that Ash is so fucking stupid.

34:00 Adam that he got away the first time, and then took someone back to the cabin.

34:09 Lee I seem to remember the first time I watched it, yeah, being like, why is he going back there, that didn't end well.

34:15 Lee And then I'm like, maybe he's luring more spirits, and then I was like, yeah, no.

34:18 Lee He's totally not happy about what's going on.

34:20 Lee So that's not the case either.

34:21 Adam Yeah.

34:22 Adam I think, I think it's a weird, I think it's a bit of a weird one because obviously, maybe they weren't thinking, I mean, even though The Evil Dead obviously became quite a.

34:31 Adam I mean, certainly over here became part of the Video Nasty's list.

34:38 Adam So it was expected to appear on video, but I suppose they weren't really.

34:44 Adam Again, it was like, it's movies, they aren't necessarily gonna be at your fingertips.

34:49 Lee Yeah.

34:50 Adam Every time, because even then it would have probably been more like rental rather than owning the tape itself.

34:56 Adam So.

34:57 Adam Maybe they were like of the opinion that it's like, well, we can do this recap because it won't necessarily be.

35:01 Adam Basically, no one's gonna fucking marathon it.

35:03 Lee Yeah.

35:05 Adam Which obviously, no, they will now.

35:06 Adam But, yeah.

35:07 Adam At the time that wasn't even a.

35:09 Adam And, yeah.

35:09 Adam So that's why it's, but this was something that I.

35:13 Adam I was really sort of astounded when sort of reading about it, because I mean, it sorts back to Evil Dead.

35:19 Adam As well, and it's a a section in my notes that I've titled, 'Hail to the King, Baby'.

35:23 Adam Because.

35:25 Adam Basically, after this, Sam Raimi, Sam Raimi, the director and Rob Tapert, the producer, did, a film called Crime Wave, which flopped.

35:34 Adam

35:34 Adam but the, the original Evil Dead was Stephen King had been instrumental in getting it noticed because he'd raved about it in a screening after seeing it at Can.

35:43 Adam And then the marketing team from like the Evil Dead had said, well, said to Sam Raimi, can we get Stephen King to provide a quote for the poster?

35:52 Adam So they rang up Stephen King, who basically said, I'll do better than that, and he did a three-page fucking review of the movie for Twilight Zone magazine.

35:57 Lee Bloody Nora.

35:58 Adam From which they took the poster quote of the most ferociously original film horror film of 1982.

36:03 Adam and, yeah, so Stephen King was really like the champion.

36:06 Adam that got got the film notice and got it put into distribution.

36:11 Adam So it actually sort of had some advertising.

36:13 Adam had some outlet.

36:13 Adam And people got to know about it.

36:16 Adam

36:17 Adam and then.

36:18 Adam They were trying to get, after Crime Wave went, went sort of south, they'd been writing this during Crime Wave.

36:25 Adam And they were like, okay, so we'll, we'll just do Evil Dead 2.

36:27 Adam Still can't get any funding for it.

36:29 Adam And then at the time, Stephen King was doing Maximum Overdrive.

36:35 Adam with, the Dino de Laurentiis production company, like Dino de Laurentiis was this, is this producer who's like near mythical, who did, like, Flash Gordon and Manhunter.

36:43 Adam And just loads of, and Dune, David Lynch's Dune is de Laurentiis.

36:47 Adam And.

36:47 Lee Wow.

36:48 Adam Yeah, he was having lunch with Stephen King, because they he was Stephen, he was producing like Maximum Overdrive.

36:53 Adam And, Stephen King was like, yeah, look, they're trying to do Evil Dead.

36:58 Adam And he basically persuaded him to put up the money to make Evil Dead 2.

37:02 Lee Wow.

37:02 Lee I did not know that.

37:05 Adam So.

37:06 Lee He's a man,

37:06 Lee isn't he?

37:07 Lee Stephen King is, he just bleeds into everything we do, really, he's just such a massive, he's a massive part of horror, like way more than just the stuff that he writes and is fully hands on involved in.

37:17 Lee He's been molding the, he's a master of horror.

37:18 Lee He's been molding the genre for fucking decades.

37:21 Adam It's.

37:21 Adam It's that lovely thing of seeing someone who's a fan.

37:23 Lee Yeah.

37:24 Adam You know what I mean, I don't think Stephen King, I mean, I mean, obviously, his main, his main output during lockdown was baiting Trump all the time on Twitter, which was fantastic.

37:33 Adam But.

37:36 Adam But,

37:37 Adam Yeah, he is essentially that's his sort of first, you know, he always remains a fan of horror.

37:46 Adam 'Cause I mean, obviously, he was the one who raved about like Clive Barker.

37:49 Adam And like Evil Dead and various and I mean, even stuff like, okay, for every time, I mean, admittedly, in my head,

37:55 Adam he doesn't like the Kubrick version of The Shining, which to me is like moaning about the school that turned your kid into a hot shot lawyer.

38:02 Adam Because you'd wanted them to be a doctor.

38:06 Adam But,

38:07 Adam other than that, you know, there's certain things like The Mist.

38:11 Adam I mean, The Mist is a film.

38:12 Adam I would love to cover on the show.

38:14 Lee Yeah, that always made it to the what I've been watching, but we only watched it.

38:16 Lee Oh, right.

38:17 Lee Yeah.

38:18 Lee So I left it off.

38:18 Lee We went back and rewatched it in the black and white version.

38:21 Adam Oh.

38:22 Lee As Adam bought us the DVD that has both the color and the black and white version.

38:24 Lee I just wanna go back to The Shining for a second.

38:25 Lee Have you read it?

38:28 Adam No.

38:28 Lee So, because it would be fascinating to read it and see if like you could see where he's coming from.

38:33 Lee In that he doesn't like film because the film is great, you know.

38:35 Adam I have seen the TV mini series version of The Shining, which sticks to the book.

38:37 Lee

38:37 Lee And so.

38:38 Adam More closely.

38:38 Lee Does he like that?

38:39 Adam Which which, yeah,

38:40 Adam that has his full approval.

38:41 Adam That's directed by, Mick Garris.

38:44 Adam And yeah, Stephen King really likes that version.

38:46 Adam But that version sticks very much to his.

38:48 Lee Yeah.

38:48 Adam His original vision, much more to to the book.

38:51 Adam Like there's stuff like.

38:52 Adam there's topiarian animals in the the maze that come to life.

38:56 Adam And obviously that's not in the Kubrick version.

38:57 Adam And things like that.

38:58 Adam From what I gather, I think the whole thing was essentially a disagreement of philosophy in so much as Stephen King and Stanley Kubrick had differing opinions about what ghosts indicated.

39:08 Lee Yeah.

39:08 Adam In that Stephen, I think Stephen King was kind of hopeful that ghosts represented that there was something else that there was an afterlife.

39:15 Adam That there was something beyond.

39:16 Adam Whereas I think Stanley Kubrick considered that to be more disturbing.

39:19 Adam Especially because it then meant that you could be trapped in perpetuity as the caretaker of the fucking Overlook and tormented for all eternity.

39:26 Adam And and you know, it's one of those ones.

39:27 Adam Where you can sort of, I can see both sides.

39:29 Adam But I I think it might have just been that he just got angry because he didn't have to topiarian animals.

39:38 Adam And there's like, no.

39:38 Lee No, no coke.

39:39 Adam But,

39:40 Adam but back to, but like back to The Mist,

39:42 Adam Stephen King now says, oh, the they altered the ending.

39:45 Lee I'm not gonna.

39:45 Lee Oh, no.

39:45 Adam I'm not gonna go into it, but they altered the ending of The Mist.

39:48 Adam And Stephen King said, that's better.

39:49 Adam That is the, that is the true version of The Mist.

39:51 Lee That is literally one of the best endings to a movie I've ever seen, and it's one of the only times I've ever, I believe I genuinely stood out of my seat and went, oh, fuck.

39:58 Adam Yeah.

40:00 Adam Yeah, that was pretty much my reaction.

40:03 Lee It just.

40:04 Lee I've never seen anything quite that absolutely.

40:09 Lee It's it's a fantastic movie, if you haven't seen it, go and watch it.

40:14 Lee It is worth the last thirty seconds of that film.

40:15 Lee To just be utterly devastated.

40:19 Adam Yeah.

40:20 Adam I think the,

40:22 Adam and also, apparently, like Dino de Laurentiis had a,

40:27 Adam agreement with the MPAA, like the American classification board, that he wouldn't release anything that was like R-rated.

40:35 Adam So, they actually set up a a production company called Rosebud, which is the production company for Evil Dead 2.

40:43 Adam So technically it's Dino de Laurentiis's company.

40:45 Adam Like DEG.

40:47 Adam But they're using a different name to get around a loophole that was this thing that they wouldn't be allowed to make eighteen films.

40:54 Lee See.

40:55 Lee But I loved that, I it's one of the things I actually made note about, yeah, it's that that initial Rosebud thing.

40:59 Lee Because it's such a, it's such a, a kind of nineties, I know it was the eighties, but it was that very nineties looking, it's a picture of a rose with a terrible CGI background.

41:05 Lee It's got a very lovely sound and then it just hits you with Evil Dead 2 just fucking out of the blue and you're like, oh, I didn't see that coming.

41:10 Lee That's horrible.

41:12 Lee It just makes it feel.

41:12 Lee all the worse for showing you something lovely and then doing that to you.

41:18 Adam Bleach.

41:19 Lee It's.

41:20 Lee It's and also apparently like.

41:21 Lee yeah, the he was, he was doing a film.

41:23 Lee Bruce Campbell was doing a film where he was basically this sleazy nightclub singer in Vegas.

41:30 Lee And then something happens and it's basically him and about three other people are left on the planet.

41:34 Lee And it's like him trying to trace his way across the planet to to solve something.

41:38 Lee And it's just him and the go-go dancer that he'd called he'd called the night before that they've ended up stuck together and having to think.

41:46 Lee And I'm pretty sure it was something to do with Alejandro Grias.

41:48 Lee But I might be.

41:49 Lee I'm getting my wires crossed there and it's something else.

41:50 Lee I'm not sure.

41:52 Lee

41:53 Lee Yeah.

41:54 Lee I doesn't.

41:55 Lee There's something about Bruce Campbell.

41:56 Lee That's just so massively awesome.

41:59 Lee Like,

42:00 Lee if you take a film like,

42:01 Lee Bubba Ho-Tep.

42:03 Adam Oh, yeah.

42:03 Lee I love Bubba Ho-Tep, it is, it is on our list of thirty films that we really should have covered before we reached a hundred.

42:08 Lee We're now at a hundred and twenty odd episodes in and we still haven't covered it.

42:12 Lee

42:13 Lee But yeah, like that,

42:14 Lee that film in concept is a wacky concept that could so easily have just fallen over and not gone anywhere.

42:19 Lee But as soon as you put Bruce Campbell in that lead role, it works.

42:22 Adam Yeah.

42:23 Lee It can't fail.

42:24 Lee And it it absolutely

42:27 Lee smashes it.

42:28 Lee You know, like you were saying.

42:30 Lee The name tells me nothing about the film, then.

42:31 Lee I'm assuming.

42:34 Lee So.

42:35 Lee No.

42:35 Lee So, just a very.

42:37 Lee Quick.

42:37 Lee elevator pitch.

42:38 Lee For Bubba Ho-Tep.

42:39 Lee Elvis didn't really die.

42:39 Lee He'd had enough of fame and swapped places with an Elvis impersonator.

42:43 Lee So Elvis is now in a retirement home.

42:46 Lee and a Egyptian mummy is also hiding out in that retirement home and is sucking the life out of old people.

42:54 Lee And the only people who know about it is Elvis.

42:58 Lee And the guy he shares a room with, who is an old black man who genuinely believes that he's John F Kennedy.

43:05 Adam And that's because Kennedy's brain went missing, generally, in real life, Kennedy's brain went missing after the autopsy.

43:13 Adam And so he's convinced that Kennedy's he is Kennedy.

43:15 Adam But put in a different body.

43:18 Lee If you need any more fucked up ideas for a movie, please let me know.

43:20 Lee Because I have.

43:21 Adam And the ancient, the ancient mummy writes rude hieroglyphs in the toilets.

43:28 Lee And he affects, does the nasty, I think, was what he.

43:29 Adam Yeah.

43:30 Lee He

43:31 Lee Yeah.

43:32 Lee But yeah,

43:33 Lee I mean, that's,

43:33 Adam I mean,

43:34 Adam that's a terrific film.

43:35 Adam I think.

43:35 Adam Yeah,

43:36 Adam that, that we're definitely, we've definitely got to cover.

43:40 Adam 'Cause I think, I mean, it's just so bloody funny.

43:43 Adam And weird.

43:43 Adam And odd.

43:43 Adam That

43:44 Adam the.

43:45 Adam Really, that's the stuff I like.

43:46 Adam I like the odd.

43:48 Adam And I'm saying Evil Dead 2.

43:48 Adam definitely counts in the odd.

43:50 Adam The.

43:51 Adam Oh, and the giant face that comes through the door.

43:57 Adam Yeah.

43:58 Adam The giant demon head.

43:59 Lee Right.

44:01 Lee But get this.

44:03 Lee I mean, we're we're one off from, like last time when we did Blair Witch and it was, oh, we'll take the camera back and get the money.

44:07 Lee Yeah.

44:09 Lee

44:10 Lee With this.

44:10 Lee They just were like, oh, that's so fucking heavy, because they filmed they filmed it in,

44:14 Lee they filmed it in North Carolina.

44:16 Lee in a place called Waynesboro.

44:18 Lee And,

44:19 Lee yeah.

44:21 Lee They just decided, oh,

44:21 Lee this is just too heavy, we'll leave it here.

44:24 Lee So they just.

44:24 Lee They didn't bother taking the head away when they left, and then the head went missing.

44:29 Lee No one knows what happened to it for years, and then it turned up in a Halloween haunted house attraction just outside Waynesboro.

44:33 Lee Where obviously someone had got it and just been using it for fucking years.

44:36 Lee They're like,

44:36 Lee I'm free, giant demon head.

44:39 Lee Yeah.

44:40 Lee Why wouldn't you, I mean, if it's just sitting.

44:42 Lee It's funny, 'cause seeing it this time, I was like, shit, that is exact, it looks exactly like the one in Hellraiser.

44:45 Lee That chases them down the tunnel.

44:46 Lee Yeah.

44:46 Lee Yeah, it's like it's got that same.

44:48 Lee It has.

44:48 Lee Definitely got that same look to it.

44:49 Lee Definitely.

44:50 Lee and actually.

44:51 Lee The,

44:52 Lee and actually filming in North Carolina.

44:54 Lee North Carolina.

44:55 Lee Obviously quite warm.

44:56 Lee They were having a heat wave.

44:58 Lee And, Ted Raimi, like Sam's brother, who plays, Henrietta, like the possessed Henrietta.

45:07 Lee they were literally pouring sweat out of that suit into like cups.

45:12 Lee Oh, God.

45:13 Lee Yeah.

45:14 Lee And you can actually see at certain points in the film that it's coming out of it's coming out of the ear.

45:16 Lee There's just like water coming out.

45:18 Lee Where it's just him sweating.

45:19 Lee And, yeah, apparently it was just like horrific, because, yeah, it's pounds and pounds of latex.

45:24 Lee Which would make you do that anyway in the middle of a heat wave in the middle of one of the hottest parts of the country.

45:27 Lee That is suffering.

45:29 Lee For your art.

45:30 Lee That is suffering for your brother because he bullies you.

45:31 Lee That's why.

45:32 Lee I think that is.

45:33 Lee I love Ted Raimi.

45:33 Lee He's one of those people.

45:34 Lee Who I don't think he gets as much props as he deserves, really.

45:37 Lee You for this.

45:38 Lee I mean, in Twin Peaks.

45:39 Lee He was fantastic in.

45:40 Lee I think he just.

45:41 Lee Yeah.

45:41 Lee Again.

45:41 Lee He was one of.

45:42 Lee Well, it's also just like, I mean, Candyman, I'd completely forgotten he was in Candyman.

45:45 Lee And like.

45:46 Lee You know,

45:47 Lee it's just weird.

45:49 Lee He just gets all these weird little bit parts.

45:50 Lee And stuff like that, but actually he's always really good in them.

45:52 Lee And one thing he's really good at, oddly.

45:54 Lee And this is out of makeup.

45:54 Lee He's oddly good at menacing.

45:57 Lee If he's playing a bad guy for Guimo Del Toro, I don't know if I could control myself from tearing the screen.

45:59 Lee Because.

46:01 Lee I think they would just combine to make such a fucking asshole.

46:05 Lee They would be trouble.

46:07 Lee Yeah.

46:07 Lee So we should probably.

46:08 Lee Yeah.

46:08 Lee So we should probably wrap this up.

46:10 Lee yeah.

46:11 Lee This film is fantastic.

46:12 Lee And of course.

46:13 Lee It then does lead to Army of Darkness.

46:14 Lee Which.

46:14 Lee So surely.

46:15 Lee Surely.

46:15 Lee That's on our list.

46:16 Lee That is definitely on our list.

46:17 Lee And it definitely won't be three fucking years before we watch Army of Darkness.

46:21 Lee I promise.

46:22 Lee It is.

46:22 Lee It's I was just saying, I was surprised about the quality of stuff that Jennifer was putting on our Halloween watch list.

46:24 Lee Army of Darkness is one of those.

46:26 Lee not seen it in, I've probably not seen it in three or four years.

46:28 Lee And yeah, a bit like this, it's one of those, I don't feel like I need to watch it all the time.

46:31 Lee because I always appreciate it.

46:34 Lee But then when you do watch it, you go, yeah, but I should definitely appreciate it more than I do, I think, really.

46:43 Lee It just works on so many levels.

46:45 Lee And this is a fantastic.

46:45 Lee entry level film.

46:47 Lee A lot of people have said.

46:48 Lee So if you've got someone who wants to get into horror, who possibly wants like an easy in, like we were saying, it's got fantastic horror.

46:56 Lee But because of the comedy, it kind of takes away from the horror and the gore to make it a lot more palatable for someone who isn't possibly quite so with the with the genre, really.

47:04 Lee Well, I think I think it carries the balance much like American Werewolf, you know, in that it's of I mean American Werewolf, obviously, you know.

47:13 Lee much different in terms of, you know, certainly budgetary and number of actors and number of locations and stuff like that.

47:21 Lee But I think if you not only that, but also if you want to just give someone a cabin in the woods film, it's Evil Dead 2.

47:24 Lee Yeah.

47:25 Lee Before you go camping.

47:25 Lee Always.

47:26 Lee It's the one that show people just to give them another reason that camping is wank.

47:28 Lee Yeah.

47:31 Lee That's why they call it wanking.

47:32 Lee Right.

47:33 Lee So,

47:33 Lee for our next episode, which is gonna be out in the beginning of November.

47:36 Lee We were discussing earlier, because I had fucked the dates up and thought it was gonna be our last episode before Halloween.

47:42 Lee We're trying to find something truly Halloween.

47:43 Lee And it's funny.

47:44 Lee Because only.

47:44 Lee This morning, I was like, I know we've got a list of stuff that we should have covered and we haven't.

47:47 Lee But I was like, what is the film most of all that we should have covered but we yet haven't.

47:53 Lee And then Adam, as soon as I said, right, we need to do something Halloween.

47:56 Lee Adam immediately came back with, we haven't covered Poltergeist.

47:59 Lee And I was like, that's the exact same film that entered my mind not an hour before that text message.

48:03 Lee So.

48:04 Lee Clearly, we're both on the same page that.

48:06 Lee We really need to cover that as a classic that a hundred and twenty odd episodes in.

48:11 Lee Yeah.

48:11 Lee I mean,

48:13 Lee there are a lot of classics that are classics, but you don't you don't need to add it to your repertoire necessarily.

48:21 Lee I think they draw people in.

48:22 Lee But you don't need.

48:24 Lee to get to see it to get a subgenre perhaps, but this film, and Adam and I both said the same,

48:28 Lee we both really appreciate it, neither of us have probably seen it in a decade.

48:31 Lee So.

48:32 Lee Yeah, it definitely drew.

48:34 Lee Well, yeah,

48:35 Lee it just works.

48:36 Lee On so many levels.

48:37 Lee And this is a fantastic entry-level film, a lot of people have said.

48:41 Lee So if you've got someone who wants to get into horror, who possibly wants like an easy in, like we were saying, it's got fantastic horror, but because of the comedy, it kind of takes away from the horror and the gore to make it a lot more palatable for someone who isn't possibly quite so with the with the genre, really.

48:57 Lee Well, I think I think it carries the balance much like American Werewolf, you know, in that it's of I mean American Werewolf, obviously, you know.

49:02 Lee much different in terms of, you know, certainly budgetary and number of actors and number of locations and stuff like that.

49:10 Lee But I think if you not only that, but also if you want to just give someone a cabin in the woods film, it's Evil Dead 2.

49:15 Lee Yeah.

49:16 Lee Before you go camping.

49:17 Lee Always.

49:18 Lee It's the one.

49:19 Lee to show people.

49:19 Lee Just to give them another reason that camping is wank.

49:22 Lee Yeah.

49:24 Lee Yeah.

49:25 Lee That's why.

49:25 Lee They call it wank.

49:27 Lee Right.

49:28 Lee So,

49:29 Lee for our next episode, which is gonna be out in the beginning of November, we were discussing earlier.

49:35 Lee because I had fucked the dates up and thought it was gonna be our last episode before Halloween, we're trying to find something truly Halloween.

49:42 Lee And it's funny.

49:43 Lee Because only this morning, I was like, I know we've got a list of stuff that we should have covered and we haven't.

49:51 Lee But I was like, what is the film most of all that we should have covered but we yet haven't.

49:56 Lee And then Adam said, as soon as I said, right, we need to do something Halloween, Adam immediately came back with, we haven't covered Poltergeist.

50:03 Lee And I was like, that's the exact same film that entered my mind not an hour before that text message.

50:10 Lee So.

50:10 Lee Clearly, we're both on the same page that we really need to cover that as a classic.

50:14 Lee That a hundred and twenty odd episodes in.

50:17 Lee Yeah.

50:17 Lee I mean,

50:19 Lee there are a lot of classics that are classics.

50:20 Lee But you don't need to add it to your repertoire necessarily.

50:25 Lee I think they draw people in, but you don't need.

50:28 Lee to get to see it to get a subgenre perhaps, but this film, and Adam and I both said the same,

50:35 Lee we both really appreciate it, neither of us have probably seen it in a decade.

50:40 Lee So, yeah, it definitely.

50:42 Lee Has there been a poltergeist.

50:43 Lee In any of the other films that we've seen?

50:45 Lee

50:46 Lee Ghostwatch.

50:47 Lee Yeah.

50:48 Lee Which again, is much more of a spoof documentary or a all live footage, whereas this is serious, this one.

50:54 Lee Oh, yeah.

50:55 Lee Well, yeah,

50:56 Lee Ghostwatch was, don't you ghostwatch?

50:58 Lee I watched that in the week as well, I didn't add it to the list because.

51:00 Lee Good man.

51:00 Lee I watch it all the fucking time.

51:02 Lee also mentioned earlier.

51:04 Lee Joe Watson was the name of the Poltergeist in the Enfield Haunting.

51:08 Lee So.

51:09 Lee That's true.

51:10 Lee We're watching.

51:11 Lee It's all come full circle.

51:12 Lee Touchy noisy fall.

51:14 Lee Adam's given me a funny look.

51:15 Lee yeah,

51:16 Lee you know,

51:17 Lee you know, touchy, noisy, noisy is what Poltergeist do, not just, I'm not accusing him of being inappropriate.