The Raven
01:28:17
About
Once upon a Sunday dreary, 3 podcasters tired and beery, Considered which film would hopefully bore none - They gibbered ‘neath the heaving shelves, of DVDs and asked themselves, “What’s got a great cast? Something a bit more fun?” - All at once they realised the one, And a nervous excitement had begun, “Of course! We’ll watch The Raven by Roger Corman!” Along the way we discuss Shudder original “Jakob’s Wife”, Alan Moore’s “The Show”, “Utopia” and “The era Expanse”. Watch (or re-watch) to avoid spoilers, and join us. APOLOGIES FOR ANY SOUND QUALITY ISSUES - THIS EPISODE WAS RECORDED REMOTELY.
How the hell should I know? What am I, a fortune teller?
Famous lines
- "Milk? How vomitable!"— Dr. Bedlo
- "No, we don't keep those things in this house. We're vegetarians"— Dr. Craven
- "And he calls himself a magician. Honestly this is too much!"— Dr. Bedlo
- "Shut your beak! Quoth the raven, nevermore."— Dr. Craven
Quotes verified against Wikiquote.
Transcript
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LeeGood evening and welcome to Horror.
LeeI'm Lee.
ChrisI'm Chris.
AdamI'm Adam.
LeeAnd we are somehow here despite all the chaos that has befallen us in the last few days.
ChrisI I blame the HGV drivers if anything.
LeeTopical.
ChrisScorching, then.
LeeYou can be listening to this in six months time and go, what? You want to be an HGV driver?
ChrisIf if I was getting paid 20% more, I'd be yeah.
Leeso we were, as previously mentioned, we were supposed to be having a guest, and covering Martyrs.
Leebut, entirely 100% my fault.
LeeI held my hand up, we've not been able to do that, unfortunately.
LeeSo Manny will hopefully be joining us in a month's time.
Leewe'll keep you posted on what we will be covering when he joins us.
ChrisCool, excellent.
LeeSo that was our first hiccup.
LeeAnd then our second hiccup was we were supposed to record last night as we normally do.
ChrisNo, nothing to see here, nothing to see here.
AdamRight, I'll show you an attraction. He said don't need.
LeeAdam and I arrived on time.
ChrisLook, I'm firing green lasers.
LeeAdam and I arrived on time, after about 25 minutes still no Chris, so I phoned him and he didn't answer. He then phoned me back and his first words were, Saturday, isn't it?
LeeYes, Chris, it is Saturday, it's recording day.
ChrisOh yeah, yeah, I can't do that now, I ain't watched the film yet.
ChrisI thought, I thought we recorded on Fridays, what happened to that?
LeeWell, you'd have been twice as late.
ChrisOh yeah.
ChrisI got to think up these excuses, haven't I?
AdamYeah, we got to
AdamThat that's an even worse one.
AdamYeah.
LeeYeah.
AdamIt's it's it's never the good it's never the good things of, you know, it's like I didn't go into work yesterday.
AdamDon't compound it with, sorry I didn't come into work yesterday, but I was off my tits on mescaline.
LeeThat's it.
ChrisThat's what I should have said.
AdamYeah.
ChrisLee would have let that one go.
LeeMy cousin
AdamWe'd have all let that slide.
LeeMy cousin once lost a job because, he worked in a window factory and he took the day off, and his excuse, which wasn't the truth, his excuse was, I was on my way into work smoking a joint at the bus stop and the police arrested me, so I couldn't phone in and let you know, because they arrested me. So they said, so you're on your way into the factory, stoned off your tits, you can pick up your paycheque and on your bike, sir. So,
LeeWell done for that one, bust.
ChrisDid you say that was the truth or wasn't the truth?
LeeI don't think it was as I remember.
ChrisIt wasn't the truth. So what could have been the truth?
AdamThat was better.
LeeWhat was worse?
ChrisIt was just the best one he could.
LeeYeah.
LeeOh, bless him.
Leeso, but we are here, as promised for everyone who follows the Instagram, so if you didn't know about the change of film, one, I apologize that you watched Martyrs, and two, why aren't you on the Instagram being aware that we are now covering 1963's classic The Raven.
Leebut before, oh, go on, Chris.
ChrisWell, no, the the biggest shock I had in this was that for the whole film, as much as I was enjoying it, I was looking for Jack Nicholson to appear, right?
ChrisNow, you you might say what's wrong with you?
ChrisThere might well be something wrong with me, I just could not recognize him as the young guy, I just did not at all see it.
LeeIt didn't register with Jennifer Iver until I said, I'm not sure if this is an early or his first appearance and she went, who's?
ChrisYeah.
LeeBut it but anyway,
ChrisLike now, yeah, anyway.
LeeWe're jumping ahead again, we keep doing it.
Leeso before we get into this evening's movie that Chris is very excited to talk about.
LeeChris, did you watch anything in the last two weeks?
Chrisyeah, so we we were watching aptly The Expanse.
LeeOkay.
ChrisNow, have either of you heard of that?
LeeI've heard of it, I've not it's the sci-fi thing from Netflix?
ChrisIt is, yeah, well, so it started on Netflix.
ChrisI probably years ago now.
ChrisAnd we started watching it probably on then, but then it stopped on there, I think, and then appeared on Amazon Prime.
ChrisAnd now they've carried it on.
ChrisThey got one more season, I think they're going to do.
ChrisThey've done five seasons.
ChrisIt changes it changes enough each season, but still for me just covers everything I like about sci-fi.
ChrisIt's got fantastic philosophy, fantastic science, fiction, spaceships, shooting,
Chrisloads of politics, interesting characters.
ChrisIt just covers everything.
ChrisSo, it does have elements of horror throughout,
Chrisbecause they have this this they call it the proto molecule.
ChrisAnd it's essentially you don't really know, it's sort of monster, like it is alien, but it's it's very monster-like in what it does.
LeeOkay.
ChrisAnd it's kind of psychological as well as actually creating kind of these beings and also hybrids of humans and it.
ChrisSo it's all quite, unusual.
ChrisThen it then it starts to expand into, you know, the the sort of interdimensional kind of ideas and so, yeah, it's, it's it's I thought it was really good.
Chrisbut now we've got another like,
LeeNot bad.
AdamNo, I was just going to say, not wishing to do a Chris, but I'll admit.
AdamWhen you say what you was watching, I was watching a plane out the window and I didn't hear what it was.
AdamWhat what is this, sorry, what's the program?
ChrisIt's it's The Expanse.
AdamThe Oh, sorry.
ChrisYeah.
LeeSorry, carry on.
ChrisSo it seems it seems like it's got a bit of a cult following,
Chrisfollowing on from
ChrisI've forgotten the name of it.
ChrisIt's Battlestar Galactica, the the remake that also got a bit of a cult following.
Chrisfor for similar reasons, really, it just, you know, it covers a lot of what I like from that kind of sci-fi, I suppose.
ChrisSo, yeah, so that's that's what we watched until we got the end of it.
AdamNice.
LeeExcellent, sounds good.
LeeAdam, what have you been watching?
AdamI've got,
AdamI've got two bits, I watched,
AdamFrightFest doing their digital thing, which I think actually finishes today.
AdamSo by the time people are listening to this, fuck it, you wouldn't be able to watch anything anyway.
AdamBut for next year, if they do it again,
AdamI watched on their digital like their streaming, because they've had, obviously they had the they had the actual festival at Leicester Square
Adamlast weekend and then throughout this week they've just put the best of
Adamlike a sort of basically all the big stuff, up on, up for streaming.
AdamI was a bit reluctant at first because I was like,
AdamWell, you can't pause it and you can't you don't keep it afterwards and you can't rewind it.
AdamAnd then my brain some vague memory in my brain just went, yeah.
AdamLike the cinema.
LeeYes.
AdamI was like, oh yeah, no that's true, if I went to the cinema to see this, I couldn't pause it, take it, take a slash without missing anything.
Adambut yeah, they, and, you know, pretty good.
AdamI think it was like eight quid.
AdamBut, yeah, so I watched,
Adamthe show, which is the new film that Alan Moore's done.
AdamI think I've spoken about showpieces, which is the short films on here before.
Adamand this is like a continuation of that.
AdamI'll be 100% honest, I am nuts deep into this fucking project.
AdamAnd obsessed with it.
AdamSo my critical faculties might be off.
AdamBecause it might mean that if someone else, if someone watches it without having seen the short films, you might be thinking, what? What the fuck's going on?
LeeYeah.
AdamBut I think you could watch it and pick up without having seen the shorts.
AdamBut but showpieces is on Shudder.
AdamSo I recommend people watch that anyway.
AdamAnd it's the thing where basically, Alan Moore's created, a world called Nighthampton, which is the sort of flipped dead side of Northampton, where he comes from.
AdamAnd he is basically a cross between Aleister Crowley, Peter Cook and Viv Stanshall.
AdamIn that he's a 60s sort of early surrealist comic, part of a double act called he's Frank Metterton of Metterton and Matchbright.
Adamand basically there's all this thing about, oh, well he was rumored to be involved with the occult and basically he's created his own universe, with him as God and his old double act partner as the devil.
AdamSo basically it's Derek and Clive, if Derek was God,
Adamand I can't remember which one was Clive and which one was Derek now, but anyway.
Adamyeah, but basically if Peter Cook was God and Dud was the devil.
LeeNice.
Adamand yeah, it's that that was genuinely,
Adamlike really good and
Adamgoes to prove because the the short films were like 2013 or something like that, when they released them, they've been building up.
AdamBut the amount that still harks in and explains like the film explained bits of the short stories and the short films and vice versa.
AdamSo it is like it's obviously a genuine whole world in his big brain.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd, with, but there's loads of, surprise sort of members of the cast including Mr. Andrew O'Neal.
LeeOh, right, okay.
AdamPlaying, and get this, because I think it stretched him somewhat, he's playing a cross-dressing occult stand-up comedian.
AdamSo, yeah.
AdamThe fact the fact that he's not called Andrew I think is probably the the the only thing that makes it not actually be Andrew O'Neil.
LeeIn that case, is it not Andrew O'Neil, he's just an actor?
LeeAnd has just been embedded in this for the last 20 years?
AdamIf that that could be the case and frankly, I think I think him and Alan Moore should get a room.
AdamSo,
LeeYeah.
AdamI I know that the only thing that would be stopping Andrew O'Neil from licking Alan Moore's balls is because I was in the way. So, you know, I think he would, he would have just betrayed this part for for this length of time just to add back story.
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