Psycho Goreman

0:00LeeGood evening and welcome to horror. I'm Lee.

0:00ChrisI'm Chris.

0:00AdamAnd I of the Archduke of Nightmare. Adam.

0:00AdamI'm getting my kids to call me that from now on.

0:00LeeIt's better than what they call you at the moment.

0:00AdamThat's.

0:00LeeTrue.

0:00ChrisJust Mr. Allen, isn't it? That's what I thought you.

0:00LeeSo, we are here this evening to discuss Psycho Gorman, which was Adam's request.

0:00LeeAnd as we missed the last episode due to Adam getting married, we thought what better gift to give him than allow him to choose this movie.

0:01LeeSo, we've watched it. Doesn't mean I'm going to be nice about it, but that's not a spoiler. We'll get to that when we get.

0:01AdamI kind of expected as such because I thought I I thought to myself, hmm, how has he?

0:01AdamBecause I I know that the I know the first half hour was was not your bag.

0:01AdamSo, yeah.

0:01LeeIt wasn't well, I won't spoil it, but it wasn't that I didn't enjoy it, so yeah.

0:01AdamYeah.

0:01AdamOh no, I am in no way, shape or form saying that this is a revolutionary new movie.

0:01AdamI am saying that this is a movie that I will stick on if I'm feeling you know, slightly meh or sort of just it'd be like, oh yeah, that'll fucking that'll pass the time.

0:01AdamYou know, that's what you want. Yeah.

0:01LeeSo in the meantime, Adam, I obviously you've been crazy busy with real life chisel, but have you had the opportunity to watch anything horror related?

0:02AdamStrangely enough, yes. I didn't expect I would have had, but um, I watched, I watched Spring, which is the second film by Aaron Mohead and Justin Benson, the guys who did The Endless and Resolution.

0:02ChrisOh no, that's that's interesting. That'll come up again later.

0:02AdamOh, will it? Okay.

0:02AdamUm, because they uh, this is another in the Shitty Carl trilogy in which Shitty Carl is mentioned by name in two of them and then he actually turns up in The Endless.

0:02AdamBut basically, it it's um, it's like a sort of, I don't know, a holiday, like one of those sort of holiday indie romance films but not shit and, um, but also with like weird monsters that you can't that doesn't quite get explained.

0:03AdamBasically, bloke needs to get out of town.

0:03AdamDecides, fuck it, I'm just going to spend he's uh, mother's died, he's got like a bit of money and he just thinks, fuck it, I'm just going to go on holiday.

0:03AdamBasically, travels across Europe and then uh, meets this girl who also is a strange monster.

0:03AdamAnd um, yeah.

0:03AdamAnd it's actually it's um, it's really good.

0:03AdamIt's it's weird because watching, even watching it, it's 2014, which doesn't seem like that's long ago, but I think things have shifted so much that I don't know that this already feels like a a sort of dated like that the holiday romance aspect of it is kind of done where it's like, you know, it's just that thing of like two people meet and then suddenly it's absolute whirlwind romance but not, you know, it's not just two people meet, fuck a lot and then fuck off. It's more, it's but it's sort of you suddenly realize that that doesn't quite read anymore. I think it's one of those things that's sort of like just sort of passed its sell by date maybe.

0:04AdamAs a thing.

0:04AdamBut Spring is definitely worth watching because it's not that's not what it's about.

0:04AdamAnd it's um, well, it is it is about that but it has this really at first you think you're getting a hang on it going, oh, so she's she's a werewolf. Oh no, she's a vampire. Oh, so she.

0:04AdamAnd yeah, the actual explanation is probably a a bit more sci-fi than anything else.

0:04AdamBut not alien sci-fi in that it just has a scientific reasoning behind it.

0:04AdamThat this and the character and the character like the the the woman in it um, is trying to study her own nature and it's about her working out what she is.

0:05LeeHmm.

0:05AdamUm, and it's yeah, and it's really, really good and really sort of well thought out.

0:05AdamIt's one of those ones where you especially when they get to the monster explanations or anything.

0:05AdamDo not blink because you know, it's like it's in that sort of really high concept thing where you're like, oh no, hang on, I'm going to have to rewind that.

0:05AdamSo.

0:05AdamIt's, but yeah.

0:05ChrisSo many cults.

0:05AdamIt is really good.

0:05AdamI mean, I still I've I've yet to watch it, but I've got Synchronic, which is their latest um, film.

0:05AdamUm, and I'm not sure I'm not sure I would watch it as much as I definitely feel I would The Endless or Resolution, Resolution in particular.

0:05AdamUm, but still, yeah.

0:05AdamA really good film and also just one of those things where you're like, oh, someone's actually taken time with this.

0:06AdamYou know, someone's actually, there's they've thought about things and there's a real originality to that rather than it's an original spin on an existing premise or something like that, they really, yeah, they've really sort of built it from the ground up.

0:06AdamOne thing I will say though, is that at one point the the main guy in it hooks up with a couple of guys from England, fuck me, what cunts we look like in America.

0:06AdamBecause because no, it was it was just a real sort of kick in the bollocks.

0:06AdamBecause you realize it's not the American perception of English people is no longer John Please in a bowler hat, it's basically Danny Dyer.

0:06AdamAnd you're like, oh, no, I don't need that.

0:06AdamBut yeah, so um, I mean they they're not in it a bunch and they are meant to be pricks.

0:06AdamSo, you know, it's not like, oh, well, I can't handle this because for 10 minutes of this duration, there's a character in it I can't stand and it's like, yeah, but you kind of meant and not can't stand him because he's just typical, all right, gay prick, sort of prick.

0:07AdamSo, yeah.

0:07AdamBut yeah, so it was a bit of a sort of lesson in a weird way that I think we've we've got to sharpen it up and go a bit lighter for him.

0:07AdamBecause otherwise they're just going to think it's, yeah, we're they're just going to think we're Danny Dyer.

0:07AdamWhich is dire.

0:07AdamSo.

0:07ChrisI still I still do like him in Human Traffic though.

0:07AdamYeah.

0:07LeeI don't think that film, I've not seen it for a long time, but I don't think that film's going to hold up if I try it again.

0:07LeeI think it's one of those, it was very It was of the time, yeah.

0:07AdamYeah.

0:07LeeSo yeah, I think that one's best left to the memory.

0:07AdamClare also pointed out it's hard to watch sober.

0:07AdamAnd I don't know what that says about her as much as anything else.

0:07AdamSo but um, I but also um, what's the one uh, what's the one where they go on like a team building exercise with Danny Dyer? Yeah.

0:08LeeNow that is a brilliant film.

0:08AdamYeah, and he's great and he is great in that.

0:08AdamSo, yeah.

0:08AdamIt's but yeah, just I don't want everyone to think that we basically make make I got this feeling that they all think we make.

0:08AdamDocumentaries about gangsters and claim that we're shitting ourselves a lot during them.

0:08AdamFucking shitting myself when I meet this 80-year-old man who once held a gun.

0:08AdamYou know.

0:08AdamUm, in in other in other cinematic news, I watched I well, I rewatched for the first time in ages.

0:08AdamAnd I thought it would kind of go with Psychogor man.

0:08AdamUh, Meatball Machine, the Japanese Splatterpunk movie from 2008.

0:08AdamUm, yeah.

0:08AdamTurns out that the main thing I was thinking, oh, that bit's coming up in a minute. That bit's coming up in a minute. Not in the film.

0:08LeeDo you think it's because I always get that Tokyo Gore Police and Robo Geisha.

0:09LeeI can't tell you what scene anything is in, I just know I've seen all three of those films and they are one film.

0:09AdamSee, I think that's the thing they all, I think they all came out over here around about the same time on DVD.

0:09AdamBecause it's definitely Tokyo Gore Police that I've mixed it up with.

0:09AdamAnd I was like, because actually Meatball Machine is a tad bleaker than Tokyo Gore Police.

0:09AdamAnd I think I was watching it, I was like, I remember this being a lot jollier.

0:09AdamAnd um, I mean it's still, it's still great, it's been, I mean, it's still like a bloody sort of.

0:09AdamIt's like someone looked at Tetsuo and said, well, should we update that and try and give it a plot and um, which was the wrong thing to do.

0:09AdamBut I think also, um, yeah.

0:09AdamI was it was quite a good watch in it, but it was also a fake disappointment that I realized, oh, I should have watched Tokyo Gore Police.

0:10AdamLike that.

0:10AdamSo I probably will be watching Tokyo Gore Police now.

0:10LeeI've got that on my back burner as well and I don't know why, every time I make a short list of films to watch, it always ends up in there, but it never quite gets watched.

0:10LeeSo I think it's it's always second tier.

0:10AdamCould we cover it on the show because we'll add it onto that list?

0:10LeeHmm.

0:10AdamBecause then eventually we'll get round to it.

0:10AdamI think that's probably a good plan.

0:10LeeI'm writing it down as we speak.

0:10AdamNicely done, sir. Nicely done.

0:10AdamUm, and then another film, again, a film that I feel could uh, Clare was certainly interested if we would it would be interested to see what the reactions were if we covered it.

0:10AdamUm, today I watched with Ted, Coraline three times.

0:10LeeI love Coraline.

0:10AdamYeah, he fucking did as well.

0:10AdamWe got to the end credits and he said again and I said, what, do you want to watch that again? Spooky again.

0:11AdamAnd then made a face until I rewound it.

0:11AdamSo, yeah, so we watched Coraline three fucking times.

0:11AdamBut the good thing is it's Coraline which stands up to being watched, you know, even even in a row.

0:11AdamYeah, it's you know.

0:11LeeIt's fantastic, it's really super creepy though.

0:11LeeLike I say, for for something that's aimed at such small kids, like it's as you say, it's not it's not overtly scary, but there's just something about it.

0:11LeeIt's that uncanny valley, which is obviously what it's shooting at is that like it's them, but it isn't, you can see it is them, but they're from a different dimension and it's just so weird.

0:11LeeI love the crap out of it.

0:11AdamIt's it's one of those ones where you almost, you almost have to kick yourself where you because you sit there and you sort of go.

0:11AdamOh, that's an amazing concept. I wish it wasn't a kids film and then you're like, no, that's still an amazing concept and this is a fucking great film.

0:12AdamWhat are you talking about, you prick?

0:12AdamDo you know what I mean? It's like, why?

0:12AdamWhy am I trying to validate this by having grownups in it and like live action?

0:12AdamWhat is fucking wrong with me?

0:12AdamYou know?

0:12AdamThe whole point of the yet but I mean, yeah, I definitely think it's one we would cover the thing is Ted is Ted's three at the end of next month, well at the end of this month now.

0:12AdamAnd I and I think if it had been maybe a couple of years older, I think he would have been far more creeped out by it.

0:12LeeYeah.

0:12AdamThan he was.

0:12AdamI think it was kind of I mean, he just loved the cat.

0:12AdamUm, and all the sort of various bits going on and everything else like that.

0:12AdamAnd he watched it and he he he only was uneasy if Coraline was sad.

0:12LeeOh.

0:12AdamSo, yeah, and um, but but definitely, yeah, it's obviously been a hit with him.

0:13AdamAnd that that does bode well because we were what we we sort of tried watching because obviously it's the same director as Nightmare Before Christmas and we tried watching.

0:13AdamThat at Christmas, but I think it was it was a bit too slow going.

0:13LeeYeah.

0:13AdamLike before you get into what's actually happening in it.

0:13AdamUm.

0:13AdamBut now I think it'd be fine with it because like I say, I mean Coraline's not exactly like, you know, it doesn't just crack in.

0:13LeeYeah.

0:13LeeIt's not Fast and Furious.

0:13AdamYeah, it's yeah, it just it builds up, it doesn't like, yeah.

0:13AdamSo I think now he might be of an age where that, I mean, possibly the Corpse Bride.

0:13AdamI don't know.

0:13AdamUm, but definitely Nightmare Before Christmas, I think.

0:13AdamHe could prob he would probably now at least be following it.

0:14LeeYeah.

0:14LeeIt's like the fact that he apprecia that he he can see it's spooky.

0:14LeeBut he likes that and he's drawn to it, the same as we were at that age, it's like, it's not actually scary, but there's something about it that makes me queasy and I love that feeling.

0:14LeeAnd it's what you just go back to over and over again, so.

0:14LeeThis bodes well for the future of horror in your household, I like the look of this.

0:14AdamWell, I mean, well, I mean, hopefully so. I mean, I would like to think that at least I've built him built up a fairly extensive library that he can then dismiss and say.

0:14AdamIt's all streaming nowadays, dad, what the fuck is wrong with you?

0:14AdamWhy are you clinging to this mountain of plastic and metal? What is wrong with you, you clown? Besides which, all the drugs are designer now and everything you've been directly into your subconscious.

0:14AdamAnd I'll just laugh at him and just say, well, don't forget your fucking gas mask when you go out.

0:15AdamBecause we fuck this planet.

0:15LeeOn that cheery note.

0:15LeeChris, have you watched anything since our last gathering?

0:16ChrisWell, that was quite a a lot to uh to follow on from.

0:16ChrisUm, so we're still working through the the Marvel Universe, so we've now covered Spider-Man Homecoming.

0:16LeeExcellent.

0:16ChrisI know you like that is it's a great film.

0:16ChrisIt's interesting, it's it's definitely seems like it's aimed at a slightly younger audience.

0:16LeeYeah.

0:16ChrisUm, I suppose it's the comedy is just very lighthearted.

0:16LeeHmm.

0:16ChrisUm, throughout but yeah, that's good.

0:16ChrisUm, I know your next top favorite Black Panther.

0:16LeeYeah.

0:16ChrisWhich I I did I did enjoy it.

0:16ChrisI um, I did see it when it came out and I thought it was good.

0:16ChrisAnd I thought I still think it's about the same.

0:16ChrisI I thought it was quite good.

0:16LeeI know what you mean.

0:16ChrisThe comedy isn't quite the same.

0:16LeeI think that was the only thing that was different.

0:16LeeWas that the comedy was was taken down like a noticeable notch.

0:17LeeAnd that was what kind of drew me in initially with like the Iron Man films was was how good the comedy in it was.

0:17LeeUm.

0:17LeeSo yeah, as soon as you sort of cut that back by about 40%, I really noticed it and it really stood out.

0:17LeeWhich is why that film, I came out again, well, the action was good and I liked the story, but I didn't come away with those, yeah, but that line and that line moments that I did from a lot of the other films, which just left me a little bit flat on it.

0:17LeeBut.

0:17AdamI think the I think the the humor thing is definitely what sells me on the majority of the.

0:17Adamuh Marvel stuff.

0:17ChrisYeah.

0:17AdamAnd it's and it's not sort of it's not alien to the comics either.

0:17LeeHmm.

0:17AdamYou know, this was stuff that was kind of in there.

0:17AdamSo, yeah, no, I think that if they.

0:17AdamBecause again, uh, I've not seen I've not seen Black Panther.

0:18AdamBut I know a lot of people said that it was the much more serious film.

0:18ChrisSo, I I wouldn't necess like there are serious elements.

0:18ChrisI think they but it's interesting though because we're now on Doctor Strange and for me, that's got even less comedy.

0:18ChrisLike there's only been a few jokes in it. Um.

0:18LeeSee now Doctor Strange is one, I seem to remember quite enjoying.

0:18LeeBut again, I've not been back to it anywhere near as much as the others.

0:18ChrisAs the others.

0:18LeeYeah.

0:18LeeIt clearly did have the same effect on me where sort of came away, oh yeah, that was pretty good, but I wouldn't rush back to it anywhere near as quick as I would.

0:18LeeAs I say, the the like the Avengers movies or I mean Guardians of the Galaxy as well.

0:18ChrisWell, yeah, yeah, definitely.

0:18ChrisYeah, so so we're still working our way through those.

0:18ChrisSeems like it won't end.

0:18ChrisBut also very enjoyable.

0:19ChrisIt's amazing how many there are though.

0:19ChrisWe're still got, you know, still I still we've still got seven left to go.

0:19AdamSeven films.

0:19LeeIsn't it?

0:19AdamFirst.

0:19ChrisAnd they're prob they're probably going to bring some more out.

0:19ChrisI think they got like One Division and there's another one, the Falcon.

0:19ChrisI know there's a series.

0:19LeeUm, not Black Panther.

0:19LeeUm, Black Widow.

0:19ChrisComing out.

0:19ChrisYeah, that's meant to be, yeah.

0:19ChrisSo it might never end. So yeah.

0:19LeeIt'll never end.

0:19ChrisYeah.

0:19ChrisNever finish them.

0:19AdamYeah, there's Falcon and Winter Soldier as well.

0:19ChrisThat's the.

0:19AdamThat's it.

0:19LeeYeah.

0:19AdamThat's the one that's currently, yeah.

0:19AdamBecause again, One Division was one of those things where loads of people were saying, oh, it's just the most amazing thing.

0:19AdamAnd it's like, yeah, but I haven't watched.

0:19AdamThe majority of this like 40 movie cycle.

0:19AdamI'm probably not going to get it.

0:20AdamYeah.

0:20AdamI would be doing the opposite to most sort of young kids watching it.

0:20AdamOf I'd be getting all the old sitcom references but have no fucking clue who anyone is.

0:20ChrisYeah.

0:20AdamSo.

0:20LeeIt's funny you've not kept up because Adam, it was you who kept badgering me about watching Iron Man.

0:20AdamI know.

0:20AdamCuz it was so damn good.

0:20LeeAnd that's what I was like, you kept on, I was like, I don't like super, I don't like comic books.

0:20LeeI don't like superhero movies, this could not be more outside of my wheelhouse.

0:20LeeAnd it was like, and in the end, it was like, but I don't watch it.

0:20LeeHe's not going to shut up.

0:20AdamYeah.

0:20LeeAnd I watched it and I got hot before I got to the end.

0:20AdamWhat was that bad about it?

0:20LeeOh no, it was.

0:20AdamBloody hell.

0:20LeeI think it was one, I think it was you and Dean and Dean had been drinking, so you kept egging each other and it just got more and more. I, if you don't see it, you might as well be dead.

0:20LeeSo by the yeah.

0:20LeeBy the time I got halfway through the first one, I'd ordered the second one on Blu-ray.

0:20LeeAnd yeah, and never looked back since, so.

0:20AdamSee, I'm quite glad that at least we lived up to the hyperbole.

0:21AdamIt wasn't just like, you know, it wasn't like we told you to do that and you sat there and it's like, I've just watched 10 hours of fucking misery.

0:21AdamWhat he's like.

0:21AdamThat's time, money, oxygen that I'm not getting back.

0:21AdamThat's it.

0:21AdamI think I think also the weird thing was is that it was because I think it was Dean who showed me Iron Man and I was like, that's fucking superb, you know, I just thought it was such a really good take on it.

0:21AdamAnd then I think the next time around it was Thor and I was like, I could never be fucked with Thor.

0:21LeeYeah, that wasn't quite the.

0:21AdamAnd also I think it's because there's like technically there's two Hulk movies that are part of it, but they'll deny it and it's not and it's not Mark Ruffalo anymore.

0:21LeeYeah.

0:21AdamYou know.

0:21AdamBecause it was it it was um, well, it wasn't Chopper, like the actual Chopper as in the Australian gangster.

0:22AdamIt was the guy who played him.

0:22LeeYes.

0:22LeeI can't remember his name.

0:22LeeBut he disappeared after doing that film pretty much.

0:22LeeI'm looking it up as we speak, so.

0:22AdamI I think he might have done the Hollywood Australian thing of suddenly coming out with a series of extremely inappropriate remarks.

0:22AdamAnd that's why he's not been seen much.

0:22LeeRight.

0:22LeeI'm.

0:22AdamAnd then it was then it was Ed Norton.

0:22AdamAnd again, he died on his ass.

0:22AdamAnd yeah, and now it's like.

0:22AdamAnd I do get the impression that although Mark Ruffalo is the Hulk, has been playing him in what, eight, 10, fucking 12 movies, whatever it is.

0:22AdamI do get the impression that they're like, should we do a whole movie? Fuck no, they go really wrong.

0:22LeeEric Banner.

0:22AdamEric.

0:22LeeThat's him.

0:22AdamEric Banana, yeah.

0:22AdamI remember him well, yeah.

0:22AdamSo.

0:22LeeHang on a minute.

0:22LeeNo, hang on.

0:22LeeYeah.

0:22AdamActually, yeah, I watched, what was that fucking fuck, I watched, I watched an episode of Shadows, like the kids TV anthology thing as well.

0:23AdamAnd I couldn't place the main guy in it for ages.

0:23AdamAnd I looked it up and he was the rapey dad from Romper Stomper.

0:23LeeOh God.

0:23AdamAnd I was just like, wow, that's just something that I hadn't sort of.

0:23LeeThat's one of those things where you think, why do I even remember what he looked like?

0:23AdamIt was.

0:23LeeYeah.

0:23AdamIt was just but it was just a weird thing because obviously this was like from the 70s and it was like and I looked him up and it was like, English Australian actor.

0:23AdamAnd I was like, oh right, okay. What else has he been in? Literally, fuck all else and then Romper Stomper.

0:23AdamOh, of course it fucking is, but 20 years older and it's like more sinister.

0:23AdamBut.

0:23AdamBrian Glover was in it as well and he was doing his best.

0:23LeeOh.

0:23AdamAggressive like.

0:23AdamYou were scared.

0:23AdamAnyway.

0:23AdamSorry.

0:23LeeAll right.

0:23LeeUm, sorry, is that it, Chris?

0:23LeeDid you I don't mean sorry, I don't mean is that it as in is that all you've watched because you've done well, but I went, you know, I didn't want to cut you off in your prime.

0:23ChrisNo, I'm not in my prime. I'm I'm leading up to my prime, honest.

0:24LeeUh, right, so I've got a couple of things to cover, uh, uh, that horror related, but only kind of loosely, but we can do them here.

0:24LeeUm, so Lady Jennifer and I heard about a new brewery that's getting started in Camden, called The Werewolf Brewery.

0:24LeeUm.

0:24LeeThe guy's building a it's a tap room, uh, but he's built like it's an onsite brewery, so they're brewing the beer and selling it there as well as having a cannery.

0:24LeeUm.

0:24AdamOh, cool.

0:24LeeAnd I was kind of I was like, oh yeah, I like the sound of that.

0:24LeeYeah, I might get involved in helping crowd fund that.

0:24LeeAnd then she said, oh, look at these photos, he's been out and bought a load of um, uh, the cars that go on ghost uh, ghost trains.

0:24LeeUm.

0:24AdamOh, cool.

0:24LeeAnd putting them in the bar.

0:24LeeSo you can sit in a ghost train car and drink a werewolf beer.

0:24LeeAnd I was like, right.

0:24AdamAs the booths.

0:24LeeYes.

0:24AdamThat's brilliant.

0:25LeeI was like, right.

0:25LeeWhere's my wallet?

0:25LeeUm.

0:25LeeSo hopefully, they're going to be opening September.

0:25LeeSo go to the Werewolf Brewing bar, it's going to be in Camden, it's in the arches.

0:25LeeUm, I say, he's in the process of doing it now, but it looks like it's going to be incredible.

0:25LeeAnd that is Rich White who's doing that.

0:25LeeSo, um.

0:25LeeI shall be following him and all of his brewing expertise.

0:25AdamSo has he actually, have you um, is there actually any available yet for drinking in there.

0:25LeeNo, no, no.

0:25AdamNo.

0:25LeeNot yet.

0:25LeeSo, um, I say, so they they're still building the premises at the moment, so they were crowdfunding.

0:25LeeSo I think he was about 30.

0:25LeeI think it was like 30 grand short.

0:25LeeUm.

0:25LeeOn what he needed, basically, it turned out to be 30 grand more than he budgeted for when he came to it.

0:25LeeSo he did crowdfunding for the last bit.

0:25LeeUm.

0:25LeeBut it was one of those things where it was crowdfunding.

0:25LeeBut it was like, if you put in 20 quid, you get a T-shirt and 50 quid, you get a hoodie and you think, well, I'd pay that for a T-shirt or a hoodie anyway.

0:25LeeSo, so we we ordered ourselves some T-shirts and hoodies.

0:25LeeUm.

0:25AdamWhy not?

0:25LeeUh, yeah.

0:25LeeSo that's all good and that's going ahead.

0:25LeeUm, today is May 1st, so last night was uh, Wall Purgus night.

0:25LeeFor those of you in the know.

0:25LeeUm, and uh, again, London Horror Society.

0:25Leeseem to be giving them a lot of props at the moment.

0:25LeeBecause uh, uh, basically, because I'm a lazy shb.

0:25LeeAnd Jennifer is on all of the so, so she keeps coming back and saying, oh, have you seen this, are we going to do that or whatever.

0:26LeeUm, so last night, uh, a guy called Jason Buck and his sister Rosalind Buck uh, did a.

0:26LeeUm, it was a storytelling evening.

0:26AdamUh-huh.

0:26LeeUm, so I wasn't quite sure with all these things, never quite know what to expect, do you? Uh, so I did a quick Google about him and he said he was um, a storyteller.

0:26LeeHe generally does stories more for adults than kids, but he does do a bit of kid stuff.

0:26LeeUm.

0:26LeeRight, he writes his own stories and yeah, kind of tells them.

0:26LeeSo I thought, oh, we'll give it a shot and we'll see what it's like.

0:26LeeUm.

0:26LeeUh, they did a fantastic job, so props to them.

0:26LeeBut Event Bright are shit.

0:26LeeUm, so they sent an email out saying, don't forget it's happening tonight, here's the link to see the event, so I was like, this is the link you click on to get into the event.

0:26LeeIt wasn't, it just took you to the events page which said not available yet.

0:26LeeSo we logged in at 5 to 8 and sat there and sat there, then about 4 past 8, I was like, I know there's some times a bit late, but this is getting dark now.

0:27LeeI went back and checked the email again, it said it had that button on it, and then underneath it had like a terms and conditions type blub.

0:27LeeAnd then underneath that, it had a zoom thing, so obviously we hadn't, you see.

0:27LeeUm, and lots of other people had the same problem, so people were dropping in later.

0:27LeeUh, but that wasn't their fault, that was Event Bright having a crap system on.

0:27LeeUm.

0:27LeeBut yeah, so we logged in and we'd missed the kind of intro bit and I am going to admit, I did kind of go, oh shit, what I've let myself in for.

0:27LeeBecause the first thing he said is, now, Rosalind is going to play a song that she's written especially for this evening on her acoustic guitar.

0:27LeeAnd those of you who know me, know that I have a bit of an animal house type reaction to people generally singing and playing the acoustic guitar.

0:28LeeUm.

0:28LeeIt was so good, so she played a song that she'd written especially for the evening, uh, called uh, The Witches are Arriving.

0:28LeeAnd it's so good, I'm going to wait and see if she posts it somewhere.

0:28LeeAnd if she does, I'm going to rip the sound and have it as my ringtone.

0:28LeeIt was fantastic, it was like, um, it was like the Bridge City Sinners, it was like, it was like satanic folky type.

0:28LeeIt was really good.

0:28LeeUh, and she said she'd had to edit it because the event was for 14-year-old plus and she'd written it, yeah, someone a bit near the knuckle.

0:28LeeYou might have to take some of it out by the sounds of it, so she had to rain it, but she said it was a bit more black sabbath to begin with, so.

0:29AdamOh.

0:29LeeBut yeah, I was yeah, really blown away.

0:29LeeAnd then he did a story of his own, which was uh, tells the unexpected top story.

0:29LeeUm.

0:29LeeAnd then Rosalind read a short story by Bram Stoker, which I didn't know that was really, really good.

0:29AdamOh, was it the because because obviously in Dracula they do it's Jonathan is traveling on Volper's night, isn't it?

0:29LeeYes.

0:29AdamYeah, sorry, yeah.

0:29LeeYes, so I don't know, I think this is like a again, I think this was like a side story he wrote, but yeah, it is about Dracula and it's just a short a story of an event that happened on route.

0:29LeeUm.

0:29LeeBut yeah, so she read that, that was really good, then she did a poem about Mayday that was really nice and sort of light.

0:29LeeAnd then uh, Jason did his final story, which was more uh, it was more like, um.

0:29LeeI tell you what it really reminded me of Adam and I think you'd have really liked it.

0:29LeeUm, what was it called? Jeffrey Noory.

0:29LeeYeah.

0:29LeeDo you remember the ones cuz Rick Ma did a few, didn't he? And he was always particularly good because he did the narration quite well, but then he gave all the characters their own voices and character.

0:29LeeGeorge.

0:29AdamYeah.

0:29LeeExactly.

0:29LeeBut without it being over the top and cringy.

0:29LeeUm, and that's exactly what this guy Jason Buck did last night.

0:30LeeUm.

0:30AdamOh, nice.

0:30LeeIt was so yeah, so I was totally drawn in, it was really funny, it was really, as you said, the original stories which we really enjoyed.

0:30LeeUm, and apparently he does, he's going to be doing soon some Sherlock Holmes readings and storytellings and he does his own ones that are like um, sort of Greek mythology type things.

0:30AdamOh, cool.

0:30LeeUm.

0:30LeeYeah, so as I said, I didn't have a lot of time to do much research because we just saw it last night and didn't know what to expect.

0:30LeeBut I'm definitely going to be following both of them and seeing what they're up to.

0:30LeeAnd they did post, they've both got Facebook pages, I don't Facebook, but I can get in there.

0:30LeeUm, that's got loads of stuff and that's got all their upcoming events and things, so uh, yeah, I think I'm definitely going to be checking out more from uh Jason and Rosalind Buck and I suggest you all do the same.

0:30LeeUm.

0:30AdamOh, cool.

0:30ChrisYeah.

0:30LeeOh, and just very quickly.

0:30LeeI won't get too into it because I'll probably do a bigger roundup, I've watched the first two seasons of uh Sapphire and Steel.

0:30AdamAh.

0:30LeeAnd.

0:30AdamYeah.

0:30LeeYeah.

0:30AdamAnd.

0:30LeeYeah.

0:30AdamAnd.

0:30LeeYeah.

0:31AdamAnd.

0:31LeeYeah. What a great concept.

0:31AdamIt.

0:31LeeIt's.

0:31AdamIt's.

0:31LeeIt's.

0:31AdamFucking great.

0:31LeeGreat, isn't it?

0:31AdamIt genuinely is.

0:31LeeIt is, it fits in here because they are ghost stories, except that they tell you that ghosts aren't what you think they are, they're people fucking with the timeline, which is like such a great.

0:31LeeIt's done in a very 70s BBC TV way.

0:31LeeUm.

0:31AdamIt is.

0:31LeeBut it is brilliant.

0:31AdamBut but also the weird thing is that they never give you, I mean, you're two you're two stories in, I think you know about as much we ever know about who Sapphire and Steel are.

0:31LeeOh, really?

0:31AdamSeriously.

0:31AdamIt doesn't sort of, you know, they just get involved in adventures, but yeah, that's so.

0:31AdamUm.

0:31AdamBut yeah, no.

0:31AdamOh, no, I'm glad you're enjoying it, man.

0:31AdamBecause they're, yeah, Sapphire and Steel's a a real favorite of mine.

0:31AdamIt's just so old.

0:31LeeYeah, it's one of those, it always turns up in that in those kind of, how did this ever get made type TV shows.

0:31LeeSo I was like, I've been leaning to get around to it for a while.

0:32LeeUm.

0:32LeeBut yeah, so I bought the box set of the first three seasons, but I think I'll definitely be checking out the second three as well, because it's.

0:32AdamYeah.

0:32AdamThe good the good thing is I don't think I don't think the quality drops at any point.

0:32LeeHmm.

0:32AdamYou know, I think you get pretty much, um.

0:32AdamYeah, I think I actually, I think the fifth adventure is the only one that's not written by the guy who created it.

0:32AdamSo you get that kind of consistency all the way through.

0:32AdamAnd um.

0:32AdamYeah, there's some no, they they're just really great.

0:32AdamJust also on a on a uh, arrived today.

0:32AdamI did uh, I got paid, so I um, ordered myself the remainder of the Uncle Terry of Albion.

0:32LeeOh, excellent.

0:32LeeYes.

0:32LeeOh.

0:32LeeYeah, I've been listening to the episodes, I've been messaging you, haven't I, Adam.

0:32LeeYes, I'm up to date on their podcast episodes.

0:32LeeYeah, as you're right, thoroughly enjoyable.

0:32LeeBut yeah, the the phone calls thing literally, I think I played that about four times.

0:32LeeBecause I just.

0:32LeeIt was like a Monday morning as well at 8:00 and I was sat at my desk in absolute hysterics and I just kept rewinding it and playing it over again.

0:33AdamNo, that's how it got me.

0:33AdamI've got pictures of your mum.

0:33AdamI've got pictures of your mum in the bath.

0:33LeeI'm going to take a shit in a sock and push it through your letterbox.

0:33LeeExcellent.

0:33LeeUm.

0:33LeeRight, so uh.

0:33LeeSo before we spoil any of that, um, we we will get into this evening's main event.

0:33LeeUh, Chris, I'm guessing is a big fan because he's changed his background on Zoom to the cover of this.

0:33LeeUh.

0:33LeeSo we are covering uh, Psychogorman.

0:33LeeSo Chris, what did you make of this film?

0:33ChrisWell, I I'll be honest and, you know, that is meant to be one of the better policies available.

0:33ChrisAnd uh, I got to say for the first 10, maybe 15 minutes, I was a little worried that Adam might have lost it and the pressure of us being released from lockdown had just got to him like a blown gasket.

0:33ChrisWhat what is a gasket anyway?

0:33ChrisBut anyway, it's uh, I thought this is this is just gone horribly wrong.

0:34ChrisAnd then it it just kept getting better and better and better.

0:34ChrisAnd I thought, nope, he's he's done it again, he knows exactly what I like.

0:34ChrisAnd it was a a great fun romp, crazy.

0:34ChrisNow, like, you know, the monster is awesome.

0:34ChrisRight, the girl is awesome, although she did remind me a bit of Jennifer when she was younger.

0:34ChrisUh, especially with her bossy games, making me follow all the rules, you know, very complicated.

0:34ChrisUh, complete lunatic, but not one of the real monsters when it comes down to it.

0:34ChrisUm.

0:34LeeYeah.

0:34ChrisSo yeah, no.

0:34ChrisIt's fantastic film.

0:34ChrisAwesome effects, you know, as you said, loads of practical effects.

0:34ChrisUm, the back story every time it came up when he was trying to be serious about all the the hardships and people with the killing that he did, you know, and no one taking him seriously, it's just it's fantastic.

0:34AdamI do love how every one of those gets deflated.

0:34AdamYeah.

0:34AdamEven though I am seriously here for it, I do I do love the fact that it's like all these ridiculous things.

0:34AdamAnd it's like, well, that was really boring.

0:35AdamOkay, so.

0:35LeeI've I've got to say.

0:35LeeI was going to ask you, Chris, actually, it was one of the things I was going to say was obviously, the girl in it, you are supposed to be like.

0:35LeeOh, she's a nightmare, but she's so cute.

0:35LeeAnd I think when I watched I've mentioned before when I when this first came out, I watched the opening weekend.

0:35LeeI got about 45 minutes in and then I turned it off.

0:35LeeUm.

0:35LeeAnd I think the reason I lasted 45 minutes was I kept hoping that she was going to get a head punched off.

0:35LeeYeah.

0:35LeeBecause I couldn't stand her every time she came on.

0:35LeeScreen.

0:35LeeAnd then when it turned out it clearly was going to be nice and she wasn't going to get mouled by the beast and left to die a painful death.

0:35LeeI lost interest and went and watched Zoquins instead.

0:35LeeSo, uh, so that's how I felt about Memi.

0:35AdamHmm.

0:35AdamIn fairness, I can I can see that because I think that it is.

0:36AdamA real borderline sort of I can see people either.

0:36AdamReally warming to it or being really fucking irritated by it.

0:36AdamAnd I don't think there's a I doubt there's much middle ground.

0:36LeeYeah.

0:36AdamTo be honest.

0:36AdamAnd I'll be honest, I found I find her, I find her in places quite grating in it.

0:36AdamBut.

0:36AdamI like it's it's the sort of surround of it that works for me.

0:36AdamAnd also, you know, it is a first-time 12-year-old actress.

0:36AdamSo I don't want to dis her or anything.

0:36LeeI was going to say, don't get me.

0:36LeeI was like, don't get me wrong, the actress was brilliant.

0:36AdamI think I think that's the things I think she's just too good at portraying that character.

0:36LeeI couldn't agree more.

0:36LeeAbsolutely.

0:36LeeIt was.

0:36LeeAnd that was that was the character she was supposed to be and she did it brilliantly.

0:36LeeBut it just rubbed me up the wrong way.

0:37LeeWhich again, you know, it's like that little shit from Game of Thrones, like every time he comes on the screen.

0:37LeeYou're supposed to want to kick his head in.

0:37LeeThat's what he's supposed to do.

0:37AdamBut at least in Game of Thrones he got killed by Dane Dina Reen.

0:37LeeExactly, you knew eventually he was going to get it and that was why he kept watching.

0:37LeeWhereas with this.

0:37LeeI was like, nah, this is all too nice.

0:37LeeShe's not going to get shot, I'm just going to give up watching instead.

0:37LeeSo, uh, so that's how I felt about Memi.

0:37AdamI think.

0:37AdamI think I think that's the point.

0:37AdamAlso, someone did point out.

0:37AdamIs he meant to be dressed as um, oh, um, Sam Neil in Jurassic Park.

0:37AdamAh.

0:38LeeOh, yeah, you could be.

0:38AdamRight.

0:38AdamWhen you, you know, when he's out.

0:38AdamAnd about.

0:38AdamAnd like they're out in the woods and then you know.

0:38AdamThey're playing games and then the police turn up and that whole sequence in the woods takes place.

0:38AdamJust before the Paladins arrive.

0:38LeeYeah, you're right.

0:38LeeIt does.

0:38AdamYeah, he is dressed as Sam Neil in Jurassic Park.

0:38LeeOh.

0:38AdamRight.

0:38AdamIt does.

0:38AdamYes.

0:38AdamYeah.

0:38AdamSo.

0:38AdamYeah.

0:38AdamAnd.

0:38AdamBut I think, yeah.

0:38AdamAnd I.

0:38AdamAnd actually I I like the.

0:38AdamThere's a there's a weird thing where they pair it off at the end.

0:38AdamYeah.

0:38AdamAnd you've got like.

0:38AdamThe mother and son have stuck with the Templar.

0:38AdamAnd they've gone off with P G.

0:38AdamYeah.

0:38AdamAnd the mum is then transformed into a kind of.

0:38AdamSurrogate Templar.

0:38AdamYeah.

0:38AdamAs well, which I I think.

0:38AdamYeah, the other thing as well that really makes me feel that this is something.

0:38AdamI I would have watched younger is it's just that thing of a pretty sort of overblown.

0:38AdamYou know, there's a lot of overblown dramatic strings, a lot of like traditional UK metal sort of sound.

0:38Adamness.

0:38AdamYeah.

0:38AdamAnd then without explanation a rap song for the end credits.

0:38AdamDo you know what I mean?

0:38AdamSo it suddenly feels like it feels like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, like the live action one of that.

0:39AdamRight, where it be like, you know, they just ACDC lick through it and then suddenly it's the rhyme syndicate with TTLE Power.

0:39AdamYeah.

0:39AdamAnd yeah, so it it felt like they got.

0:39AdamThey felt like they got every aesthetic right on it.

0:39AdamAnd um, one final note back from uh returning from The Void.

0:39AdamUh Kenneth Welsh is the narrator and the adjudicator who is the head of the Gaax Council.

0:39AdamWindermerl from Twin Peaks.

0:39AdamBack once again with uh working with, so.

0:39AdamWow.

0:39LeeNice.

0:39LeeWow.

0:39AdamAlso, and this is this is a question.

0:39AdamI'm I mean, I don't even think it's a question, but Gaax Council, like the planet Gaax.

0:39AdamI'm assuming is because of Gary Gaax or Gaax who who created Dungeons and Dragons.

0:39LeeOh.

0:39LeeYeah, you could be right.

0:39AdamI'm kind of assuming that's got to be the reason.

0:39AdamBecause let's face it, it wears a lot of its influences on its sleeve.

0:39AdamOn its blooded sleeve.

0:39LeeYeah, what a fun movie.

0:39LeeUm, so for next episode.

0:39LeeObviously, uh, you guys are going to be covering the Mandalorian next week.

0:39LeeIs that correct?

0:39AdamAh, yes.

0:39AdamYes.

0:39AdamWith uh, with Uncle Wesley Sith.

0:40AdamAnd uh, yeah, we should be um, we should be looking at the Mandalorian.

0:40AdamAnd uh, finally, I will be finishing the Mandalorian in the ensuring week because I've just got uh, I've just got three apps to go.

0:40AdamAnd uh.

0:40LeeOh nice.

0:40AdamBloody hell.

0:40LeeI've uh, I've started.

0:40LeeAlthough I won't be on the episode, I've started rewatching it.

0:40LeeSo uh, I have watched six and a half episodes this week, so uh, yeah.

0:40AdamIt holds up to a second viewing really, really well.

0:40AdamI mean, it's one of those, I think the problem with binge TV.

0:40AdamYou do binge it and then you don't want to watch it again anytime soon.

0:40AdamSo I'm not been in a rush to go back and rewatch it.

0:40AdamBut I do, but I do love that and that again, that was another one of those ones where I really like the subversion of it where it was like.

0:40AdamWhen he's like, can I have a moment.

0:40AdamSorry Mr. Gorman, can I have a moment with my daughter.

0:40AdamAnd then he's like.

0:40AdamYeah, this weird looking guy, said, do I want to see a, uh, some baseball cards?

0:40AdamAnd I said yes.

0:40AdamI had a wonderful afternoon looking at some pristine first edition baseball cards.

0:40AdamWith about six weird looking men.

0:40AdamAnd.

0:40AdamYeah.

0:40AdamSo it.

0:40AdamAnd actually I think.

0:40AdamAnd then maybe maybe we do Sean the dead afterwards.

0:40LeeYou like Sean the dead.

0:40AdamYeah.

0:40AdamIt's not.

0:40LeeCome on.

0:40AdamIt's not like Sean of the Dead, come on.

0:40LeeYeah.

0:40AdamIt needs to go on the list.

0:40LeeActually, I was going to say so the so the episode after that.

0:41LeeObviously, you guys will do your Star Wars in between.

0:41LeeThen we'll have the next episode, and the episode after that will be Chris's birthday choice.

0:41LeeWhich I've already made earlier.

0:41LeeI wrote it down while we were recording because it was something that suddenly popped into my head.

0:41LeeSo would you like to know now in advance?

0:41ChrisYeah.

0:41LeeYeah. Okay.

0:41LeeSo for my birthday choice, I would like us to watch uh, The Wolf of Snow Hollow.

0:41LeeBecause it was my favorite film of last year by an absolute mile.

0:41AdamOh, not seen that myself.

0:41AdamAlthough I have heard very good things.

0:41LeeAgain, it's another one, the trailer doesn't give anything away, but if you're going to watch it anyway, don't watch the trailer.

0:41AdamYeah.

0:41LeeAlso, you've mentioned it earlier, no, I won't go into that because I can't remember what you made.

0:41LeeThere we go, uh no, it's just that um, I know that the director of um.

0:41LeeUm, thanks killing has done a larger budget film that he's doing quite well at the moment, but I can't for the life of me think what it is.

0:42LeeSo probably mentioning it was a blind alley.

0:42LeeThere we go.

0:42LeeBut we should find out what it is and watch it.

0:42LeeYes.

0:42LeeYes.

0:42LeeExcellent.

0:42LeeUm, right, so, thanks so much for listening everybody.

0:42LeeUh, we hope you had a good time. Uh, we hope you watched Psychogorman.

0:42LeeUm, go and check out all the other stuff that we've been talking about because there's a lot of good shit in there.

0:42LeeUm, and don't forget for next episode, go and watch Attack the Block.

0:42LeeYes.

0:42ChrisI'd like to say, I'm off to give my pizza a warrior's death.

0:42LeeGood night.

0:42AdamGood night.

0:42ChrisGood night.

0:42AdamGood night.

0:42LeeGood night.