Psycho Goreman
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Prepare for family-friendly carnage as our Hunky Boys sit down to watch Steven Kostanski’s “Psycho Goreman”. A fun-loving family film in which cyborg fascist angels eat cubed humans; the Arch-Duke of Nightmares plays drums on a rip-off of Billy Idol’s “Rebel Yell”; and we learn that nothing in the universe is quite as supremely evil as a 12 year old girl. Along the way we discuss “Spring”, The Werewolf brewery, “Meatball Machine”, “Coraline” and Jason and Rosalind Buck’s “Walpurgisnacht: Stories of the Witches’ Night”. Watch (or re-watch) to avoid spoilers, and join us. APOLOGIES FOR ANY SOUND QUALITY ISSUES -CURRENT QUARANTINE MEASURES MEANT WE HAD TO RECORD THIS EPISODE REMOTELY.
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Lee Good evening and welcome to horror. I'm Lee.
Chris I'm Chris.
Adam And I of the Archduke of Nightmare. Adam.
Adam I'm getting my kids to call me that from now on.
Lee It's better than what they call you at the moment.
Adam That's.
Lee True.
Chris Just Mr. Allen, isn't it? That's what I thought you.
Lee So, we are here this evening to discuss Psycho Gorman, which was Adam's request.
Lee And as we missed the last episode due to Adam getting married, we thought what better gift to give him than allow him to choose this movie.
Lee So, we've watched it. Doesn't mean I'm going to be nice about it, but that's not a spoiler. We'll get to that when we get.
Adam I kind of expected as such because I thought I I thought to myself, hmm, how has he?
Adam Because I I know that the I know the first half hour was was not your bag.
Adam So, yeah.
Lee It wasn't well, I won't spoil it, but it wasn't that I didn't enjoy it, so yeah.
Adam Yeah.
Adam Oh no, I am in no way, shape or form saying that this is a revolutionary new movie.
Adam I am saying that this is a movie that I will stick on if I'm feeling you know, slightly meh or sort of just it'd be like, oh yeah, that'll fucking that'll pass the time.
Adam You know, that's what you want. Yeah.
Lee So in the meantime, Adam, I obviously you've been crazy busy with real life chisel, but have you had the opportunity to watch anything horror related?
Adam Strangely enough, yes. I didn't expect I would have had, but um, I watched, I watched Spring, which is the second film by Aaron Mohead and Justin Benson, the guys who did The Endless and Resolution.
Chris Oh no, that's that's interesting. That'll come up again later.
Adam Oh, will it? Okay.
Adam Um, because they uh, this is another in the Shitty Carl trilogy in which Shitty Carl is mentioned by name in two of them and then he actually turns up in The Endless.
Adam But basically, it it's um, it's like a sort of, I don't know, a holiday, like one of those sort of holiday indie romance films but not shit and, um, but also with like weird monsters that you can't that doesn't quite get explained.
Adam Basically, bloke needs to get out of town.
Adam Decides, fuck it, I'm just going to spend he's uh, mother's died, he's got like a bit of money and he just thinks, fuck it, I'm just going to go on holiday.
Adam Basically, travels across Europe and then uh, meets this girl who also is a strange monster.
Adam And um, yeah.
Adam And it's actually it's um, it's really good.
Adam It's it's weird because watching, even watching it, it's 2014, which doesn't seem like that's long ago, but I think things have shifted so much that I don't know that this already feels like a a sort of dated like that the holiday romance aspect of it is kind of done where it's like, you know, it's just that thing of like two people meet and then suddenly it's absolute whirlwind romance but not, you know, it's not just two people meet, fuck a lot and then fuck off. It's more, it's but it's sort of you suddenly realize that that doesn't quite read anymore. I think it's one of those things that's sort of like just sort of passed its sell by date maybe.
Adam As a thing.
Adam But Spring is definitely worth watching because it's not that's not what it's about.
Adam And it's um, well, it is it is about that but it has this really at first you think you're getting a hang on it going, oh, so she's she's a werewolf. Oh no, she's a vampire. Oh, so she.
Adam And yeah, the actual explanation is probably a a bit more sci-fi than anything else.
Adam But not alien sci-fi in that it just has a scientific reasoning behind it.
Adam That this and the character and the character like the the the woman in it um, is trying to study her own nature and it's about her working out what she is.
Lee Hmm.
Adam Um, and it's yeah, and it's really, really good and really sort of well thought out.
Adam It's one of those ones where you especially when they get to the monster explanations or anything.
Adam Do not blink because you know, it's like it's in that sort of really high concept thing where you're like, oh no, hang on, I'm going to have to rewind that.
Adam So.
Adam It's, but yeah.
Chris So many cults.
Adam It is really good.
Adam I mean, I still I've I've yet to watch it, but I've got Synchronic, which is their latest um, film.
Adam Um, and I'm not sure I'm not sure I would watch it as much as I definitely feel I would The Endless or Resolution, Resolution in particular.
Adam Um, but still, yeah.
Adam A really good film and also just one of those things where you're like, oh, someone's actually taken time with this.
Adam You know, someone's actually, there's they've thought about things and there's a real originality to that rather than it's an original spin on an existing premise or something like that, they really, yeah, they've really sort of built it from the ground up.
Adam One thing I will say though, is that at one point the the main guy in it hooks up with a couple of guys from England, fuck me, what cunts we look like in America.
Adam Because because no, it was it was just a real sort of kick in the bollocks.
Adam Because you realize it's not the American perception of English people is no longer John Please in a bowler hat, it's basically Danny Dyer.
Adam And you're like, oh, no, I don't need that.
Adam But yeah, so um, I mean they they're not in it a bunch and they are meant to be pricks.
Adam So, you know, it's not like, oh, well, I can't handle this because for 10 minutes of this duration, there's a character in it I can't stand and it's like, yeah, but you kind of meant and not can't stand him because he's just typical, all right, gay prick, sort of prick.
Adam So, yeah.
Adam But yeah, so it was a bit of a sort of lesson in a weird way that I think we've we've got to sharpen it up and go a bit lighter for him.
Adam Because otherwise they're just going to think it's, yeah, we're they're just going to think we're Danny Dyer.
Adam Which is dire.
Adam So.
Chris I still I still do like him in Human Traffic though.
Adam Yeah.
Lee I don't think that film, I've not seen it for a long time, but I don't think that film's going to hold up if I try it again.
Lee I think it's one of those, it was very It was of the time, yeah.
Adam Yeah.
Lee So yeah, I think that one's best left to the memory.
Adam Clare also pointed out it's hard to watch sober.
Adam And I don't know what that says about her as much as anything else.
Adam So but um, I but also um, what's the one uh, what's the one where they go on like a team building exercise with Danny Dyer? Yeah.
Lee Now that is a brilliant film.
Adam Yeah, and he's great and he is great in that.
Adam So, yeah.
Adam It's but yeah, just I don't want everyone to think that we basically make make I got this feeling that they all think we make.
Adam Documentaries about gangsters and claim that we're shitting ourselves a lot during them.
Adam Fucking shitting myself when I meet this 80-year-old man who once held a gun.
Adam You know.
Adam Um, in in other in other cinematic news, I watched I well, I rewatched for the first time in ages.
Adam And I thought it would kind of go with Psychogor man.
Adam Uh, Meatball Machine, the Japanese Splatterpunk movie from 2008.
Adam Um, yeah.
Adam Turns out that the main thing I was thinking, oh, that bit's coming up in a minute. That bit's coming up in a minute. Not in the film.
Lee Do you think it's because I always get that Tokyo Gore Police and Robo Geisha.
Lee I can't tell you what scene anything is in, I just know I've seen all three of those films and they are one film.
Adam See, I think that's the thing they all, I think they all came out over here around about the same time on DVD.
Adam Because it's definitely Tokyo Gore Police that I've mixed it up with.
Adam And I was like, because actually Meatball Machine is a tad bleaker than Tokyo Gore Police.
Adam And I think I was watching it, I was like, I remember this being a lot jollier.
Adam And um, I mean it's still, it's still great, it's been, I mean, it's still like a bloody sort of.
Adam It's like someone looked at Tetsuo and said, well, should we update that and try and give it a plot and um, which was the wrong thing to do.
Adam But I think also, um, yeah.
Adam I was it was quite a good watch in it, but it was also a fake disappointment that I realized, oh, I should have watched Tokyo Gore Police.
Adam Like that.
Adam So I probably will be watching Tokyo Gore Police now.
Lee I've got that on my back burner as well and I don't know why, every time I make a short list of films to watch, it always ends up in there, but it never quite gets watched.
Lee So I think it's it's always second tier.
Adam Could we cover it on the show because we'll add it onto that list?
Lee Hmm.
Adam Because then eventually we'll get round to it.
Adam I think that's probably a good plan.
Lee I'm writing it down as we speak.
Adam Nicely done, sir. Nicely done.
Adam Um, and then another film, again, a film that I feel could uh, Clare was certainly interested if we would it would be interested to see what the reactions were if we covered it.
Adam Um, today I watched with Ted, Coraline three times.
Lee I love Coraline.
Adam Yeah, he fucking did as well.
Adam We got to the end credits and he said again and I said, what, do you want to watch that again? Spooky again.
Adam And then made a face until I rewound it.
Adam So, yeah, so we watched Coraline three fucking times.
Adam But the good thing is it's Coraline which stands up to being watched, you know, even even in a row.
Adam Yeah, it's you know.
Lee It's fantastic, it's really super creepy though.
Lee Like I say, for for something that's aimed at such small kids, like it's as you say, it's not it's not overtly scary, but there's just something about it.
Lee It's that uncanny valley, which is obviously what it's shooting at is that like it's them, but it isn't, you can see it is them, but they're from a different dimension and it's just so weird.
Lee I love the crap out of it.
Adam It's it's one of those ones where you almost, you almost have to kick yourself where you because you sit there and you sort of go.
Adam Oh, that's an amazing concept. I wish it wasn't a kids film and then you're like, no, that's still an amazing concept and this is a fucking great film.
Adam What are you talking about, you prick?
Adam Do you know what I mean? It's like, why?
Adam Why am I trying to validate this by having grownups in it and like live action?
Adam What is fucking wrong with me?
Adam You know?
Adam The whole point of the yet but I mean, yeah, I definitely think it's one we would cover the thing is Ted is Ted's three at the end of next month, well at the end of this month now.
Adam And I and I think if it had been maybe a couple of years older, I think he would have been far more creeped out by it.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Than he was.
Adam I think it was kind of I mean, he just loved the cat.
Adam Um, and all the sort of various bits going on and everything else like that.
Adam And he watched it and he he he only was uneasy if Coraline was sad.
Lee Oh.
Adam So, yeah, and um, but but definitely, yeah, it's obviously been a hit with him.
Adam And that that does bode well because we were what we we sort of tried watching because obviously it's the same director as Nightmare Before Christmas and we tried watching.
Adam That at Christmas, but I think it was it was a bit too slow going.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Like before you get into what's actually happening in it.
Adam Um.
Adam But now I think it'd be fine with it because like I say, I mean Coraline's not exactly like, you know, it doesn't just crack in.
Lee Yeah.
Lee It's not Fast and Furious.
Adam Yeah, it's yeah, it just it builds up, it doesn't like, yeah.
Adam So I think now he might be of an age where that, I mean, possibly the Corpse Bride.
Adam I don't know.
Adam Um, but definitely Nightmare Before Christmas, I think.
Adam He could prob he would probably now at least be following it.
Lee Yeah.
Lee It's like the fact that he apprecia that he he can see it's spooky.
Lee But he likes that and he's drawn to it, the same as we were at that age, it's like, it's not actually scary, but there's something about it that makes me queasy and I love that feeling.
Lee And it's what you just go back to over and over again, so.
Lee This bodes well for the future of horror in your household, I like the look of this.
Adam Well, I mean, well, I mean, hopefully so. I mean, I would like to think that at least I've built him built up a fairly extensive library that he can then dismiss and say.
Adam It's all streaming nowadays, dad, what the fuck is wrong with you?
Adam Why are you clinging to this mountain of plastic and metal? What is wrong with you, you clown? Besides which, all the drugs are designer now and everything you've been directly into your subconscious.
Adam And I'll just laugh at him and just say, well, don't forget your fucking gas mask when you go out.
Adam Because we fuck this planet.
Lee On that cheery note.
Lee Chris, have you watched anything since our last gathering?
Chris Well, that was quite a a lot to uh to follow on from.
Chris Um, so we're still working through the the Marvel Universe, so we've now covered Spider-Man Homecoming.
Lee Excellent.
Chris I know you like that is it's a great film.
Chris It's interesting, it's it's definitely seems like it's aimed at a slightly younger audience.
Lee Yeah.
Chris Um, I suppose it's the comedy is just very lighthearted.
Lee Hmm.
Chris Um, throughout but yeah, that's good.
Chris Um, I know your next top favorite Black Panther.
Lee Yeah.
Chris Which I I did I did enjoy it.
Chris I um, I did see it when it came out and I thought it was good.
Chris And I thought I still think it's about the same.
Chris I I thought it was quite good.
Lee I know what you mean.
Chris The comedy isn't quite the same.
Lee I think that was the only thing that was different.
Lee Was that the comedy was was taken down like a noticeable notch.
Lee And that was what kind of drew me in initially with like the Iron Man films was was how good the comedy in it was.
Lee Um.
Lee So yeah, as soon as you sort of cut that back by about 40%, I really noticed it and it really stood out.
Lee Which is why that film, I came out again, well, the action was good and I liked the story, but I didn't come away with those, yeah, but that line and that line moments that I did from a lot of the other films, which just left me a little bit flat on it.
Lee But.
Adam I think the I think the the humor thing is definitely what sells me on the majority of the.
Adam uh Marvel stuff.
Chris Yeah.
Adam And it's and it's not sort of it's not alien to the comics either.
Lee Hmm.
Adam You know, this was stuff that was kind of in there.
Adam So, yeah, no, I think that if they.
Adam Because again, uh, I've not seen I've not seen Black Panther.
Adam But I know a lot of people said that it was the much more serious film.
Chris So, I I wouldn't necess like there are serious elements.
Chris I think they but it's interesting though because we're now on Doctor Strange and for me, that's got even less comedy.
Chris Like there's only been a few jokes in it. Um.
Lee See now Doctor Strange is one, I seem to remember quite enjoying.
Lee But again, I've not been back to it anywhere near as much as the others.
Chris As the others.
Lee Yeah.
Lee It clearly did have the same effect on me where sort of came away, oh yeah, that was pretty good, but I wouldn't rush back to it anywhere near as quick as I would.
Lee As I say, the the like the Avengers movies or I mean Guardians of the Galaxy as well.
Chris Well, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Chris Yeah, so so we're still working our way through those.
Chris Seems like it won't end.
Chris But also very enjoyable.
Chris It's amazing how many there are though.
Chris We're still got, you know, still I still we've still got seven left to go.
Adam Seven films.
Lee Isn't it?
Adam First.
Chris And they're prob they're probably going to bring some more out.
Chris I think they got like One Division and there's another one, the Falcon.
Chris I know there's a series.
Lee Um, not Black Panther.
Lee Um, Black Widow.
Chris Coming out.
Chris Yeah, that's meant to be, yeah.
Chris So it might never end. So yeah.
Lee It'll never end.
Chris Yeah.
Chris Never finish them.
Adam Yeah, there's Falcon and Winter Soldier as well.
Chris That's the.
Adam That's it.
Lee Yeah.
Adam That's the one that's currently, yeah.
Adam Because again, One Division was one of those things where loads of people were saying, oh, it's just the most amazing thing.
Adam And it's like, yeah, but I haven't watched.
Adam The majority of this like 40 movie cycle.
Adam I'm probably not going to get it.
Adam Yeah.
Adam I would be doing the opposite to most sort of young kids watching it.
Adam Of I'd be getting all the old sitcom references but have no fucking clue who anyone is.
Chris Yeah.
Adam So.
Lee It's funny you've not kept up because Adam, it was you who kept badgering me about watching Iron Man.
Adam I know.
Adam Cuz it was so damn good.
Lee And that's what I was like, you kept on, I was like, I don't like super, I don't like comic books.
Lee I don't like superhero movies, this could not be more outside of my wheelhouse.
Lee And it was like, and in the end, it was like, but I don't watch it.
Lee He's not going to shut up.
Adam Yeah.
Lee And I watched it and I got hot before I got to the end.
Adam What was that bad about it?
Lee Oh no, it was.
Adam Bloody hell.
Lee I think it was one, I think it was you and Dean and Dean had been drinking, so you kept egging each other and it just got more and more. I, if you don't see it, you might as well be dead.
Lee So by the yeah.
Lee By the time I got halfway through the first one, I'd ordered the second one on Blu-ray.
Lee And yeah, and never looked back since, so.
Adam See, I'm quite glad that at least we lived up to the hyperbole.
Adam It wasn't just like, you know, it wasn't like we told you to do that and you sat there and it's like, I've just watched 10 hours of fucking misery.
Adam What he's like.
Adam That's time, money, oxygen that I'm not getting back.
Adam That's it.
Adam I think I think also the weird thing was is that it was because I think it was Dean who showed me Iron Man and I was like, that's fucking superb, you know, I just thought it was such a really good take on it.
Adam And then I think the next time around it was Thor and I was like, I could never be fucked with Thor.
Lee Yeah, that wasn't quite the.
Adam And also I think it's because there's like technically there's two Hulk movies that are part of it, but they'll deny it and it's not and it's not Mark Ruffalo anymore.
Lee Yeah.
Adam You know.
Adam Because it was it it was um, well, it wasn't Chopper, like the actual Chopper as in the Australian gangster.
Adam It was the guy who played him.
Lee Yes.
Lee I can't remember his name.
Lee But he disappeared after doing that film pretty much.
Lee I'm looking it up as we speak, so.
Adam I I think he might have done the Hollywood Australian thing of suddenly coming out with a series of extremely inappropriate remarks.
Adam And that's why he's not been seen much.
Lee Right.
Lee I'm.
Adam And then it was then it was Ed Norton.
Adam And again, he died on his ass.
Adam And yeah, and now it's like.
Adam And I do get the impression that although Mark Ruffalo is the Hulk, has been playing him in what, eight, 10, fucking 12 movies, whatever it is.
Adam I do get the impression that they're like, should we do a whole movie? Fuck no, they go really wrong.
Lee Eric Banner.
Adam Eric.
Lee That's him.
Adam Eric Banana, yeah.
Adam I remember him well, yeah.
Adam So.
Lee Hang on a minute.
Lee No, hang on.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Actually, yeah, I watched, what was that fucking fuck, I watched, I watched an episode of Shadows, like the kids TV anthology thing as well.
Adam And I couldn't place the main guy in it for ages.
Adam And I looked it up and he was the rapey dad from Romper Stomper.
Lee Oh God.
Adam And I was just like, wow, that's just something that I hadn't sort of.
Lee That's one of those things where you think, why do I even remember what he looked like?
Adam It was.
Lee Yeah.
Adam It was just but it was just a weird thing because obviously this was like from the 70s and it was like and I looked him up and it was like, English Australian actor.
Adam And I was like, oh right, okay. What else has he been in? Literally, fuck all else and then Romper Stomper.
Adam Oh, of course it fucking is, but 20 years older and it's like more sinister.
Adam But.
Adam Brian Glover was in it as well and he was doing his best.
Lee Oh.
Adam Aggressive like.
Adam You were scared.
Adam Anyway.
Adam Sorry.
Lee All right.
Lee Um, sorry, is that it, Chris?
Lee Did you I don't mean sorry, I don't mean is that it as in is that all you've watched because you've done well, but I went, you know, I didn't want to cut you off in your prime.
Chris No, I'm not in my prime. I'm I'm leading up to my prime, honest.
Lee Uh, right, so I've got a couple of things to cover, uh, uh, that horror related, but only kind of loosely, but we can do them here.
Lee Um, so Lady Jennifer and I heard about a new brewery that's getting started in Camden, called The Werewolf Brewery.
Lee Um.
Lee The guy's building a it's a tap room, uh, but he's built like it's an onsite brewery, so they're brewing the beer and selling it there as well as having a cannery.
Lee Um.
Adam Oh, cool.
Lee And I was kind of I was like, oh yeah, I like the sound of that.
Lee Yeah, I might get involved in helping crowd fund that.
Lee And then she said, oh, look at these photos, he's been out and bought a load of um, uh, the cars that go on ghost uh, ghost trains.
Lee Um.
Adam Oh, cool.
Lee And putting them in the bar.
Lee So you can sit in a ghost train car and drink a werewolf beer.
Lee And I was like, right.
Adam As the booths.
Lee Yes.
Adam That's brilliant.
Lee I was like, right.
Lee Where's my wallet?
Lee Um.
Lee So hopefully, they're going to be opening September.
Lee So go to the Werewolf Brewing bar, it's going to be in Camden, it's in the arches.
Lee Um, I say, he's in the process of doing it now, but it looks like it's going to be incredible.
Lee And that is Rich White who's doing that.
Lee So, um.
Lee I shall be following him and all of his brewing expertise.
Adam So has he actually, have you um, is there actually any available yet for drinking in there.
Lee No, no, no.
Adam No.
Lee Not yet.
Lee So, um, I say, so they they're still building the premises at the moment, so they were crowdfunding.
Lee So I think he was about 30.
Lee I think it was like 30 grand short.
Lee Um.
Lee On what he needed, basically, it turned out to be 30 grand more than he budgeted for when he came to it.
Lee So he did crowdfunding for the last bit.
Lee Um.
Lee But it was one of those things where it was crowdfunding.
Lee But it was like, if you put in 20 quid, you get a T-shirt and 50 quid, you get a hoodie and you think, well, I'd pay that for a T-shirt or a hoodie anyway.
Lee So, so we we ordered ourselves some T-shirts and hoodies.
Lee Um.
Adam Why not?
Lee Uh, yeah.
Lee So that's all good and that's going ahead.
Lee Um, today is May 1st, so last night was uh, Wall Purgus night.
Lee For those of you in the know.
Lee Um, and uh, again, London Horror Society.
Lee seem to be giving them a lot of props at the moment.
Lee Because uh, uh, basically, because I'm a lazy shb.
Lee And Jennifer is on all of the so, so she keeps coming back and saying, oh, have you seen this, are we going to do that or whatever.
Lee Um, so last night, uh, a guy called Jason Buck and his sister Rosalind Buck uh, did a.
Lee Um, it was a storytelling evening.
Adam Uh-huh.
Lee Um, so I wasn't quite sure with all these things, never quite know what to expect, do you? Uh, so I did a quick Google about him and he said he was um, a storyteller.
Lee He generally does stories more for adults than kids, but he does do a bit of kid stuff.
Lee Um.
Lee Right, he writes his own stories and yeah, kind of tells them.
Lee So I thought, oh, we'll give it a shot and we'll see what it's like.
Lee Um.
Lee Uh, they did a fantastic job, so props to them.
Lee But Event Bright are shit.
Lee Um, so they sent an email out saying, don't forget it's happening tonight, here's the link to see the event, so I was like, this is the link you click on to get into the event.
Lee It wasn't, it just took you to the events page which said not available yet.
Lee So we logged in at 5 to 8 and sat there and sat there, then about 4 past 8, I was like, I know there's some times a bit late, but this is getting dark now.
Lee I went back and checked the email again, it said it had that button on it, and then underneath it had like a terms and conditions type blub.
Lee And then underneath that, it had a zoom thing, so obviously we hadn't, you see.
Lee Um, and lots of other people had the same problem, so people were dropping in later.
Lee Uh, but that wasn't their fault, that was Event Bright having a crap system on.
Lee Um.
Lee But yeah, so we logged in and we'd missed the kind of intro bit and I am going to admit, I did kind of go, oh shit, what I've let myself in for.
Lee Because the first thing he said is, now, Rosalind is going to play a song that she's written especially for this evening on her acoustic guitar.
Lee And those of you who know me, know that I have a bit of an animal house type reaction to people generally singing and playing the acoustic guitar.
Lee Um.
Lee It was so good, so she played a song that she'd written especially for the evening, uh, called uh, The Witches are Arriving.
Lee And it's so good, I'm going to wait and see if she posts it somewhere.
Lee And if she does, I'm going to rip the sound and have it as my ringtone.
Lee It was fantastic, it was like, um, it was like the Bridge City Sinners, it was like, it was like satanic folky type.
Lee It was really good.
Lee Uh, and she said she'd had to edit it because the event was for 14-year-old plus and she'd written it, yeah, someone a bit near the knuckle.
Lee You might have to take some of it out by the sounds of it, so she had to rain it, but she said it was a bit more black sabbath to begin with, so.
Adam Oh.
Lee But yeah, I was yeah, really blown away.
Lee And then he did a story of his own, which was uh, tells the unexpected top story.
Lee Um.
Lee And then Rosalind read a short story by Bram Stoker, which I didn't know that was really, really good.
Adam Oh, was it the because because obviously in Dracula they do it's Jonathan is traveling on Volper's night, isn't it?
Lee Yes.
Adam Yeah, sorry, yeah.
Lee Yes, so I don't know, I think this is like a again, I think this was like a side story he wrote, but yeah, it is about Dracula and it's just a short a story of an event that happened on route.
Lee Um.
Lee But yeah, so she read that, that was really good, then she did a poem about Mayday that was really nice and sort of light.
Lee And then uh, Jason did his final story, which was more uh, it was more like, um.
Lee I tell you what it really reminded me of Adam and I think you'd have really liked it.
Lee Um, what was it called? Jeffrey Noory.
Lee Yeah.
Lee Do you remember the ones cuz Rick Ma did a few, didn't he? And he was always particularly good because he did the narration quite well, but then he gave all the characters their own voices and character.
Lee George.
Adam Yeah.
Lee Exactly.
Lee But without it being over the top and cringy.
Lee Um, and that's exactly what this guy Jason Buck did last night.
Lee Um.
Adam Oh, nice.
Lee It was so yeah, so I was totally drawn in, it was really funny, it was really, as you said, the original stories which we really enjoyed.
Lee Um, and apparently he does, he's going to be doing soon some Sherlock Holmes readings and storytellings and he does his own ones that are like um, sort of Greek mythology type things.
Adam Oh, cool.
Lee Um.
Lee Yeah, so as I said, I didn't have a lot of time to do much research because we just saw it last night and didn't know what to expect.
Lee But I'm definitely going to be following both of them and seeing what they're up to.
Lee And they did post, they've both got Facebook pages, I don't Facebook, but I can get in there.
Lee Um, that's got loads of stuff and that's got all their upcoming events and things, so uh, yeah, I think I'm definitely going to be checking out more from uh Jason and Rosalind Buck and I suggest you all do the same.
Lee Um.
Adam Oh, cool.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Oh, and just very quickly.
Lee I won't get too into it because I'll probably do a bigger roundup, I've watched the first two seasons of uh Sapphire and Steel.
Adam Ah.
Lee And.
Adam Yeah.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And.
Lee Yeah. What a great concept.
Adam It.
Lee It's.
Adam It's.
Lee It's.
Adam Fucking great.
Lee Great, isn't it?
Adam It genuinely is.
Lee It is, it fits in here because they are ghost stories, except that they tell you that ghosts aren't what you think they are, they're people fucking with the timeline, which is like such a great.
Lee It's done in a very 70s BBC TV way.
Lee Um.
Adam It is.
Lee But it is brilliant.
Adam But but also the weird thing is that they never give you, I mean, you're two you're two stories in, I think you know about as much we ever know about who Sapphire and Steel are.
Lee Oh, really?
Adam Seriously.
Adam It doesn't sort of, you know, they just get involved in adventures, but yeah, that's so.
Adam Um.
Adam But yeah, no.
Adam Oh, no, I'm glad you're enjoying it, man.
Adam Because they're, yeah, Sapphire and Steel's a a real favorite of mine.
Adam It's just so old.
Lee Yeah, it's one of those, it always turns up in that in those kind of, how did this ever get made type TV shows.
Lee So I was like, I've been leaning to get around to it for a while.
Lee Um.
Lee But yeah, so I bought the box set of the first three seasons, but I think I'll definitely be checking out the second three as well, because it's.
Adam Yeah.
Adam The good the good thing is I don't think I don't think the quality drops at any point.
Lee Hmm.
Adam You know, I think you get pretty much, um.
Adam Yeah, I think I actually, I think the fifth adventure is the only one that's not written by the guy who created it.
Adam So you get that kind of consistency all the way through.
Adam And um.
Adam Yeah, there's some no, they they're just really great.
Adam Just also on a on a uh, arrived today.
Adam I did uh, I got paid, so I um, ordered myself the remainder of the Uncle Terry of Albion.
Lee Oh, excellent.
Lee Yes.
Lee Oh.
Lee Yeah, I've been listening to the episodes, I've been messaging you, haven't I, Adam.
Lee Yes, I'm up to date on their podcast episodes.
Lee Yeah, as you're right, thoroughly enjoyable.
Lee But yeah, the the phone calls thing literally, I think I played that about four times.
Lee Because I just.
Lee It was like a Monday morning as well at 8:00 and I was sat at my desk in absolute hysterics and I just kept rewinding it and playing it over again.
Adam No, that's how it got me.
Adam I've got pictures of your mum.
Adam I've got pictures of your mum in the bath.
Lee I'm going to take a shit in a sock and push it through your letterbox.
Lee Excellent.
Lee Um.
Lee Right, so uh.
Lee So before we spoil any of that, um, we we will get into this evening's main event.
Lee Uh, Chris, I'm guessing is a big fan because he's changed his background on Zoom to the cover of this.
Lee Uh.
Lee So we are covering uh, Psychogorman.
Lee So Chris, what did you make of this film?
Chris Well, I I'll be honest and, you know, that is meant to be one of the better policies available.
Chris And uh, I got to say for the first 10, maybe 15 minutes, I was a little worried that Adam might have lost it and the pressure of us being released from lockdown had just got to him like a blown gasket.
Chris What what is a gasket anyway?
Chris But anyway, it's uh, I thought this is this is just gone horribly wrong.
Chris And then it it just kept getting better and better and better.
Chris And I thought, nope, he's he's done it again, he knows exactly what I like.
Chris And it was a a great fun romp, crazy.
Chris Now, like, you know, the monster is awesome.
Chris Right, the girl is awesome, although she did remind me a bit of Jennifer when she was younger.
Chris Uh, especially with her bossy games, making me follow all the rules, you know, very complicated.
Chris Uh, complete lunatic, but not one of the real monsters when it comes down to it.
Chris Um.
Lee Yeah.
Chris So yeah, no.
Chris It's fantastic film.
Chris Awesome effects, you know, as you said, loads of practical effects.
Chris Um, the back story every time it came up when he was trying to be serious about all the the hardships and people with the killing that he did, you know, and no one taking him seriously, it's just it's fantastic.
Adam I do love how every one of those gets deflated.
Adam Yeah.
Adam Even though I am seriously here for it, I do I do love the fact that it's like all these ridiculous things.
Adam And it's like, well, that was really boring.
Adam Okay, so.
Lee I've I've got to say.
Lee I was going to ask you, Chris, actually, it was one of the things I was going to say was obviously, the girl in it, you are supposed to be like.
Lee Oh, she's a nightmare, but she's so cute.
Lee And I think when I watched I've mentioned before when I when this first came out, I watched the opening weekend.
Lee I got about 45 minutes in and then I turned it off.
Lee Um.
Lee And I think the reason I lasted 45 minutes was I kept hoping that she was going to get a head punched off.
Lee Yeah.
Lee Because I couldn't stand her every time she came on.
Lee Screen.
Lee And then when it turned out it clearly was going to be nice and she wasn't going to get mouled by the beast and left to die a painful death.
Lee I lost interest and went and watched Zoquins instead.
Lee So, uh, so that's how I felt about Memi.
Adam Hmm.
Adam In fairness, I can I can see that because I think that it is.
Adam A real borderline sort of I can see people either.
Adam Really warming to it or being really fucking irritated by it.
Adam And I don't think there's a I doubt there's much middle ground.
Lee Yeah.
Adam To be honest.
Adam And I'll be honest, I found I find her, I find her in places quite grating in it.
Adam But.
Adam I like it's it's the sort of surround of it that works for me.
Adam And also, you know, it is a first-time 12-year-old actress.
Adam So I don't want to dis her or anything.
Lee I was going to say, don't get me.
Lee I was like, don't get me wrong, the actress was brilliant.
Adam I think I think that's the things I think she's just too good at portraying that character.
Lee I couldn't agree more.
Lee Absolutely.
Lee It was.
Lee And that was that was the character she was supposed to be and she did it brilliantly.
Lee But it just rubbed me up the wrong way.
Lee Which again, you know, it's like that little shit from Game of Thrones, like every time he comes on the screen.
Lee You're supposed to want to kick his head in.
Lee That's what he's supposed to do.
Adam But at least in Game of Thrones he got killed by Dane Dina Reen.
Lee Exactly, you knew eventually he was going to get it and that was why he kept watching.
Lee Whereas with this.
Lee I was like, nah, this is all too nice.
Lee She's not going to get shot, I'm just going to give up watching instead.
Lee So, uh, so that's how I felt about Memi.
Adam I think.
Adam I think I think that's the point.
Adam Also, someone did point out.
Adam Is he meant to be dressed as um, oh, um, Sam Neil in Jurassic Park.
Adam Ah.
Lee Oh, yeah, you could be.
Adam Right.
Adam When you, you know, when he's out.
Adam And about.
Adam And like they're out in the woods and then you know.
Adam They're playing games and then the police turn up and that whole sequence in the woods takes place.
Adam Just before the Paladins arrive.
Lee Yeah, you're right.
Lee It does.
Adam Yeah, he is dressed as Sam Neil in Jurassic Park.
Lee Oh.
Adam Right.
Adam It does.
Adam Yes.
Adam Yeah.
Adam So.
Adam Yeah.
Adam And.
Adam But I think, yeah.
Adam And I.
Adam And actually I I like the.
Adam There's a there's a weird thing where they pair it off at the end.
Adam Yeah.
Adam And you've got like.
Adam The mother and son have stuck with the Templar.
Adam And they've gone off with P G.
Adam Yeah.
Adam And the mum is then transformed into a kind of.
Adam Surrogate Templar.
Adam Yeah.
Adam As well, which I I think.
Adam Yeah, the other thing as well that really makes me feel that this is something.
Adam I I would have watched younger is it's just that thing of a pretty sort of overblown.
Adam You know, there's a lot of overblown dramatic strings, a lot of like traditional UK metal sort of sound.
Adam ness.
Adam Yeah.
Adam And then without explanation a rap song for the end credits.
Adam Do you know what I mean?
Adam So it suddenly feels like it feels like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, like the live action one of that.
Adam Right, where it be like, you know, they just ACDC lick through it and then suddenly it's the rhyme syndicate with TTLE Power.
Adam Yeah.
Adam And yeah, so it it felt like they got.
Adam They felt like they got every aesthetic right on it.
Adam And um, one final note back from uh returning from The Void.
Adam Uh Kenneth Welsh is the narrator and the adjudicator who is the head of the Gaax Council.
Adam Windermerl from Twin Peaks.
Adam Back once again with uh working with, so.
Adam Wow.
Lee Nice.
Lee Wow.
Adam Also, and this is this is a question.
Adam I'm I mean, I don't even think it's a question, but Gaax Council, like the planet Gaax.
Adam I'm assuming is because of Gary Gaax or Gaax who who created Dungeons and Dragons.
Lee Oh.
Lee Yeah, you could be right.
Adam I'm kind of assuming that's got to be the reason.
Adam Because let's face it, it wears a lot of its influences on its sleeve.
Adam On its blooded sleeve.
Lee Yeah, what a fun movie.
Lee Um, so for next episode.
Lee Obviously, uh, you guys are going to be covering the Mandalorian next week.
Lee Is that correct?
Adam Ah, yes.
Adam Yes.
Adam With uh, with Uncle Wesley Sith.
Adam And uh, yeah, we should be um, we should be looking at the Mandalorian.
Adam And uh, finally, I will be finishing the Mandalorian in the ensuring week because I've just got uh, I've just got three apps to go.
Adam And uh.
Lee Oh nice.
Adam Bloody hell.
Lee I've uh, I've started.
Lee Although I won't be on the episode, I've started rewatching it.
Lee So uh, I have watched six and a half episodes this week, so uh, yeah.
Adam It holds up to a second viewing really, really well.
Adam I mean, it's one of those, I think the problem with binge TV.
Adam You do binge it and then you don't want to watch it again anytime soon.
Adam So I'm not been in a rush to go back and rewatch it.
Adam But I do, but I do love that and that again, that was another one of those ones where I really like the subversion of it where it was like.
Adam When he's like, can I have a moment.
Adam Sorry Mr. Gorman, can I have a moment with my daughter.
Adam And then he's like.
Adam Yeah, this weird looking guy, said, do I want to see a, uh, some baseball cards?
Adam And I said yes.
Adam I had a wonderful afternoon looking at some pristine first edition baseball cards.
Adam With about six weird looking men.
Adam And.
Adam Yeah.
Adam So it.
Adam And actually I think.
Adam And then maybe maybe we do Sean the dead afterwards.
Lee You like Sean the dead.
Adam Yeah.
Adam It's not.
Lee Come on.
Adam It's not like Sean of the Dead, come on.
Lee Yeah.
Adam It needs to go on the list.
Lee Actually, I was going to say so the so the episode after that.
Lee Obviously, you guys will do your Star Wars in between.
Lee Then we'll have the next episode, and the episode after that will be Chris's birthday choice.
Lee Which I've already made earlier.
Lee I wrote it down while we were recording because it was something that suddenly popped into my head.
Lee So would you like to know now in advance?
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah. Okay.
Lee So for my birthday choice, I would like us to watch uh, The Wolf of Snow Hollow.
Lee Because it was my favorite film of last year by an absolute mile.
Adam Oh, not seen that myself.
Adam Although I have heard very good things.
Lee Again, it's another one, the trailer doesn't give anything away, but if you're going to watch it anyway, don't watch the trailer.
Adam Yeah.
Lee Also, you've mentioned it earlier, no, I won't go into that because I can't remember what you made.
Lee There we go, uh no, it's just that um, I know that the director of um.
Lee Um, thanks killing has done a larger budget film that he's doing quite well at the moment, but I can't for the life of me think what it is.
Lee So probably mentioning it was a blind alley.
Lee There we go.
Lee But we should find out what it is and watch it.
Lee Yes.
Lee Yes.
Lee Excellent.
Lee Um, right, so, thanks so much for listening everybody.
Lee Uh, we hope you had a good time. Uh, we hope you watched Psychogorman.
Lee Um, go and check out all the other stuff that we've been talking about because there's a lot of good shit in there.
Lee Um, and don't forget for next episode, go and watch Attack the Block.
Lee Yes.
Chris I'd like to say, I'm off to give my pizza a warrior's death.
Lee Good night.
Adam Good night.
Chris Good night.
Adam Good night.
Lee Good night.
