Inside No.9 pt3
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And we open the “Inside No.9 Christmas Selection Box” one last time, but unlike a normal selection box, we’re not left with a few toffee pennies and that horrible coconut one. No, we’ve got a hazelnut whirl and a caramel barrel! (SNAP! There goes that metaphor.) First off we have season 1’s horror foray “The Harrowing”, where we learn what rhymes with “Moloch”. And then we finish with “The Devil of Christmas”, an outstanding evocation of television of yore, with a mention of eating an onion as if ‘twere an apple. SPOILERS AHOY SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE WATCH THESE FANTASTIC EPISODES BEFORE WE RUIN THE MANY TWISTS AND TURNS SO MASTERFULLY CRAFTED BY SHEARSMITH AND PEMBERTON. Watch (or re-watch), join us and have a Merry Messy Christmas
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Lee Good evening and welcome to horror. I'm Lee.
Chris I'm Chris.
Adam I'm Adam.
Lee And we are here for our Christmas party. Woohoo!
Adam Hey!
Lee Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do. I've got a bottle opener in one hand and a bottle in the other.
Chris It's not working.
Lee I've been drinking for about 30 years. You think I'd know how to open a pissing bottle.
Adam Yes.
Chris Is this a joke bottle Jennifer's given you?
Lee Oh, there we go. Yay. Noiseless. Anyway.
Lee Yes, there will be spoilers, there will be swearing. Definitely go and watch this, as we've said, with all of the inside number nines, because yeah, although they're fantastic to watch.
Lee They work so much better the first time around, so don't let us ruin it for you because.
Adam Absolutely.
Lee Because it's amazing.
Lee so this evening we are going to be covering the harrowing and the Devil of Christmas.
Lee so first up, let's cover the harrowing, shall we?
Adam
Lee yeah, I, I remember when this one first aired being really super excited.
Lee I think I mentioned before, like obviously I know the guys are all really into their horror.
Lee So I was watching the whole of the first series going, is it gonna be a horror one? Is it gonna be a horror one?
Lee And then waiting until the last episode, oh, yeah, and this just cherry on the cake season one, isn't it?
Adam I, I think that they,
Adam I think they probably deliberately held back because it was like, right, we can do a ball out horror.
Adam We're not putting that one first because it'd put.
Lee No, because it'd put people off.
Adam Oh, 100%.
Adam If people watch this one, I think like sardine starting series one was probably
Adam the best because it gives you, you know, that it basically gives you the proper setup of, right.
Adam What you're about to get is about 20 minutes roughly of comedy, 10 minutes of horrible unease.
Lee
Adam And a twist and a payoff.
Adam
Adam So, but I think the harrowing would have been as I, I mean, we would have been sold.
Adam But I think, you know, there is a that the League's fan base isn't just purely people who also have watched The Devil rides out.
Chris
Adam 100 times.
Adam So,
Chris Well, it's funny, Lee, that you actually said it works better the first time.
Chris It, it, you know, that makes sense.
Chris Because you don't know the twist, but actually for some reason I so enjoyed watching this the second time.
Chris And I was, I was thinking, you know, yeah, maybe I won't.
Chris But for some reason, in a way, almost the comedy works more because I'm not on edge as much thinking, wait, where's this gonna go?
Lee Yeah.
Chris Like, and trying to guess it, it's just like, no, I kind of, you know, I forgot a little bit, a few of the details.
Chris But then yeah, some of the jokes, it's just like you're more relaxed and you're just enjoying the way that they have constructed so many like little details.
Chris You just think, yeah, you've just got that so well.
Chris And it was, yeah, it was making me laugh so much more this time around.
Adam Definitely.
Lee Hang on.
Lee Sorry.
Adam Go on, man.
Lee I was just going to say.
Adam I was going to say, go on, Lee, Lee, go on.
Lee Adam, go.
Lee Right, yeah, I, I think the cast for this one.
Lee Is just, like, I, I loved, as we said before, you know, the way they do people in just the once and let them do one.
Chris
Adam Yeah.
Lee But yeah, the cast in this one is just phenomenal.
Lee I remember at the time, as soon as I realized it was gonna be a horror one, I was excited.
Lee And then of course Helen McCory comes in, and Amy, who plays Katy, who I've seen in other stuff as well, she was in Luther.
Adam Yeah, she was around, yeah, around the same time she was in Luther, again, playing up to the fact that she looks so much younger than she actually is.
Lee Exactly, yeah.
Chris
Lee And she does a good job of that as well, like even her speech and everything, she comes across as quite a young girl.
Chris Really convincingly.
Adam Yeah.
Lee But yeah, I just, yeah, I, I just loved that whole, I mean, it's very much, the story of this is pretty very much the same as,
Lee House of the Devil.
Adam Yeah.
Lee Effectively.
Adam which we do need to cover on the show because you do need to see it, Chris.
Chris Sounds like we do, yeah.
Adam Yeah, you might have an inkling as to what happens in it.
Adam
Adam But that, that, that was one of the influences that they talked about or said that, you know, it's.
Adam Because yeah, when I was watching it, it was House of the Devil with the score from Suspiria.
Adam It was pretty much how I was watching it.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And then in, in the sort of, I'm gonna say again.
Adam Because it's a great thing, The Insider's Guide to Inside Number Nine by Mark Salisbury is where I've got most of my notes and sort of additional info and stuff like that from.
Adam And yeah, they mentioned House they mentioned House of the Devil, they like David Kerr, the director.
Adam Mentions because the score was going in that sort of goblin, but also that sort of electronic.
Adam Cause apparently, he like the composer dug out a load of, yeah, Christian Henson dug out a load of his old analog synths and stuff like that to go for this one.
Adam
Adam
Adam Yeah, I think it's really one of their best ones because this is almost like they've not got to they're not having to sell you.
Adam Say for example, like we had with Seance Time, which sells you that you're gonna be watching a very scary.
Adam Sort of, you know, almost to the point of cliche horror thing.
Chris
Adam And then that actually gets then subverted and actually know you're watching an in-camera show and stuff like that.
Adam Whereas this is dread and unease from the start.
Adam And it stays there.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Because this is, yeah, this is the horror one, as it were.
Lee But as we, you know, as we say, although it does have a lot of similarities to House of the Devil, what I love about House of the Devil.
Lee Is that it keeps that tension going for such a long time, but this has just as much tension.
Lee And somehow manages to cram it into a third of the runtime.
Lee And just keep it.
Lee You know, like it doesn't feel rushed.
Lee Everything's allowed to take as long as it needs to take to build that discomfort and unease.
Lee But they do it in such a short period of time.
Lee It's absolutely insane.
Adam While still being funny.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Exactly, you know, because that's, that's, that's the cleverest thing is because and it's, I'm not gonna claim that it's an easy sell to sell dread because so many films fail to do it.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And they're the ones that really do it are exceptionally good.
Adam
Adam But yeah, they are rarely humorous as well.
Chris I was trying to think, the humor in this, it is kind of deadpan.
Chris Isn't it, throughout, it's they're making the jokes, but it's, it's not, you know, they're not setting you up really, it's,
Chris Yeah, like just some of the little comments that each of them make.
Chris Like, what is it? Do you know Po? Oh yeah, teletubbies.
Adam They got Teletubbies.
Chris Yeah, and they're just talking, but then, what was her name? Mcroy, like it's just the way she's looking and then she adjusts to sort of move past that.
Chris Which, in, in reality, you know, that'd be very awkward.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Oh, yeah.
Chris Yeah, and she moves on and it's funnier again.
Lee Well, even in the even at the super tense part at the end, you know, where he pulls out a taser and she goes, right, so you haven't got the internet, but you've got a fucking taser.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Like, but it doesn't take the tension away. I don't know how they just manage to keep everything.
Lee It's so many balls in the air at once.
Lee And there's just there's never a misstep. I honestly don't know how they manage it, it's phenomenal.
Adam The beauty of the humor of it as well.
Adam Is that feels an I, I don't know whether this is like my brain or sort of a lot of people.
Adam But the comedic bits actually also sell the reality.
Adam To me.
Adam In as much as it's like they go through the whole thing of you've been chosen and he will enter your body.
Adam And she just.
Adam Fuck off!
Lee Yeah.
Adam And yeah, it's funny.
Adam But how is that not your reaction if someone starts doing that?
Chris Yeah.
Adam Like these two extraordinary dressed and weird people start telling you that they're going to be the vessel for a mischief demon.
Lee Yeah.
Adam You know, the first, the way you say, yeah, the way you say that.
Chris Yeah, they say.
Adam Over and over.
Adam Oh yeah.
Lee And those cloven feet as well.
Lee Like it's, oh, it's just, it's so beautifully done.
Lee
Adam Well, originally they were, they were gonna have Andreas more obviously a demon.
Chris
Adam But from a budgetary point of view, they couldn't have like a full winged prosthetic made up demon.
Adam So they sort of set about going back on it and that's when they brought in the sort of elements of.
Adam Oh, is this actually, as, Katy thinks, oh, no, this is just abuse.
Adam This is just.
Chris Yeah, yeah.
Adam You know, this is just, and again, it's that lovely thing of your brain.
Adam that I think that she is an extremely rational and clever character. I mean, obviously she's just caught in a fucking awful circumstance.
Chris
Adam But her reactions.
Adam Like it's like, she's not gonna go in there.
Adam And it's like, right, this is why they're being creepy is because they've got this poor bastard locked up in here.
Adam Let's get him out. Let's help him.
Chris
Adam And even when they go through that, she doesn't follow the demonology supernatural element of it.
Adam She is just like, no.
Adam You're just treating him like shit.
Lee Yeah.
Adam My mum's got hard feet at like.
Lee Hard feet.
Adam Hard feet.
Lee
Adam And all those sort of bits, but yeah, so they.
Adam Again, working within the restrictions they've got, I think it's probably added to it.
Adam Rather than having something that is clearly a supernatural entity.
Chris Yeah, yeah, quite possibly.
Adam Sitting in the bed, you've just got this possibly disabled old man, you know, or sort of.
Adam Or just maltreated figure.
Adam they said that they, what was it, the, the, the things they said for him were.
Adam obviously the Pale Man from Pan's Labyrinth was an inspiration on that.
Lee Yeah.
Adam and Sloth in Seven.
Lee Yeah.
Adam You know, when they break in.
Lee Yeah.
Adam and also they wanted him to move like the Jadda Man from the Meff advert.
Lee Oh.
Adam Which is, which again, is one of those weird ones that does seem to have just stuck with a lot of people.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Of and.
Adam And certainly a lot of sort of younger watchers who were like sort of, you know, that's genuinely one of those sort of childhood creepy moments of just.
Adam What the fuck is this?
Lee Yeah.
Adam You know.
Adam
Adam But, oh, and to, so obviously, like I said, we're talking series one, we're talking episode six, which was the was the the last one.
Adam First broadcast on the 12th of March, 2014.
Adam and the director is David Kerr.
Adam Who directed all of series one.
Lee Oh, I didn't realize that.
Adam That, that whole thing cause I assumed sort of when I was looking back through it, I was like, oh, they must have always used multiple directors.
Adam But no, the first series is just David Kerr who did every single one.
Adam So the fact that they are so varied and everything else like that is a real testament to him as much as them.
Lee Yeah.
Chris
Chris What else?
Adam Because.
Adam So, so series one is Sardines, a Quiet Night In, which is the silent one, Tom and Jerry, Last Gasp, and The Understudy.
Adam and then obviously this.
Adam And then he also did Zanzibar and To Have and To Hold.
Adam in series four.
Adam So, he's, he also directed Johnny English Strikes Again.
Chris Okay.
Lee Oh.
Chris That seems a bit.
Adam But he also.
Adam He also directed Monkey Trousers, That Mitchell and Webb Look, That Mitchell and Webb Situation, Whites, No Offense and Fresh Meat.
Adam So, you know, he's there.
Chris There's some, I would say some similarities with the Mitchell and Webb, they get kind of eerie.
Lee Oh, yeah.
Lee Yeah, they have some sinister characters in that as well, which is always nice.
Chris Yeah.
Adam And he talked about, he talked about The Innocents, The Haunting, The Orphanage and The Others.
Adam and I know that definitely like The Haunting and The Others have come up on previous ones we've looked at.
Adam So I think they're pretty sort of key works when they're sort of going for this sort of thing.
Chris
Lee
Lee I think I'd go say, I think this is the first one as well that didn't have Steve Pemberton in, and I remember the first time watching it through.
Lee Just waiting to see Andress and being like, it's clearly gonna be Steve, it's got to be.
Lee And then when it wasn't, I was like, oh, yeah, no, that's totally thrown me.
Adam Yeah.
Adam Well, because there's because it's weird, they never got, they've never gone back and done that, but, the.
Adam Excuse me.
Adam The first series, I, I think it's the last breath, Reece is not in it.
Chris
Adam And I think that that's, Last Gasp, sorry.
Adam yeah, Reece isn't in that one, so I think possibly there was gonna be a plan that they wouldn't always.
Adam Appear.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Because I think that's that's because obviously when they were doing the league with Mark Gati, they were pretty much the entire cast.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And then they did Psychoville and I know they played multiple characters in Psychoville.
Adam You've also got actors playing other characters.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And major characters, it's not just like.
Adam A waiter or someone, you know, you've got Dawn French in there and so on and Daniel Kaluuya.
Lee Yeah.
Adam So there's a lot of so I wonder if they were almost going for that where it's like, well, eventually would we just cast this.
Lee
Adam and just let it run.
Adam Cause, yeah, I think it was only I think yeah, I was, I was in the same thing when I when I first watched it.
Adam It was like, oh, Andrew's is clearly gonna be Steve.
Adam you know.
Adam Which certainly would not have been as effective as the guy they've got, Shaun Dooley.
Chris Yeah.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Yeah.
Adam Who is just, he's a movement artist, he worked with like Steven Berkov and stuff like that, so he's like a performance artist.
Adam
Adam So he can, but he's in, he's in The Fifth Element, he's a scientist in The Fifth Element.
Lee Oh.
Adam Yeah.
Adam
Adam He's in, I mean, clearly he's in fucking Game of Thrones, cause you do not have to do anything to him to make him terrifying.
Adam
Adam Peaky Blinders,
Lee Oh, we had Helen McCroy again.
Adam Exactly.
Adam And, Amy Fion Edwards, she was in Peaky Blinders as well.
Lee Oh, yes, she was. Yes.
Adam Yeah.
Adam She was another Shelby.
Adam So.
Adam Yeah.
Adam And.
Adam but I think that yeah, his, he was in.
Adam The Wedding of River Song, like a Doctor Who thing.
Adam But the thing that I thought of was he's Albert in Toast of London, the Moose Trap.
Adam Which is where he's going and doing this awful play and he's like the stage hand, but he only ever appears in like a sort of Lynchian blaze of electricity.
Adam And just stands there looking fucking terrifying.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And that and that is literally it, that is literally what he does.
Adam But it's, yeah.
Adam
Adam But no, he's a really, you know, and again, it's that thing of you've got.
Adam You know, someone might have sat there and said, oh, well, you've just got some bloke lying in a bed, but they've gone and got someone who can really.
Lee Yes, sell that character on multiple levels.
Lee I mean, it's.
Lee It, it, and it, that's the thing with this, again, I know we've said it before with previous episodes of Inside Number Nine, when it's such a small cast, every performance counts.
Lee Like everyone has to be selling it 100% or it just doesn't work.
Lee yeah, which is why it's lovely to see all these fantastic actors who you know so well from other stuff.
Lee yeah, to just see him come on and just absolutely sell the shit out of this stuff.
Lee It's so much so much fun.
Lee And it's always, it was always exciting when it was first airing, because I always made a point of not looking into it.
Lee And waiting for the episode and then going, oh, it's her, oh, it's him, oh, awesome, oh, I haven't seen him since I, yeah.
Lee And it kind of added to it, it was a bit of a like a variety performance.
Lee There was always somebody there that yeah, that you just you knew you were you loved from other stuff and they just popped up.
Lee I mean,
Lee I think that's the thing, they must be so well regarded in the industry to be able to get these people to just drop.
Lee I mean, you think.
Adam Pretty much anyone they need.
Lee Yeah. I mean, Helen McCory was doing the Harry Potter movies at this point and still just came and.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Well, apparently, apparently she was in a.
Adam She was in a play with Reece.
Adam And he sort of suggested to her at that point.
Adam Like, did you wanna come and do this and apparently she was really up for it.
Adam But again, like you say, I think it's just that level of respect and cachet that they've got within.
Adam You know, cause everyone knows they're really fucking good.
Adam Even if, even if it's just the thing of it's like.
Adam Well, they're really successful, so maybe I could do with being in an episode of something they've done, you know what I mean?
Adam It's like.
Adam but I mean, certainly not in Helen Mcroy's case, but.
Adam who, who actually I I hadn't realized we'd last saw in episode one, two, four, interview with the vampire, where she played second whore.
Lee Oh, right.
Adam Oh.
Adam So, you know, that's.
Adam Not not even the first.
Adam Not even.
Chris No, yeah.
Chris She's come a long way.
Adam It's a meta, it's a meteoric career.
Adam Unfortunately no longer with us.
Adam But.
Lee I was gonna say, yeah, shame we lost her last year, didn't we?
Lee But.
Adam Was it last year? I think, yeah, I think it was actually.
Adam Yeah.
Adam
Adam But yeah, I mean, the.
Adam And I think that, oh, the what is it? They mention it, The Gospel of Nicodemus. I was looking into it. That genuinely is a text. It's Apocryphal Bible text. So it's stuff that's not considered part of the canon.
Adam Like, it's not properly one of the gospels.
Lee But it's side quest.
Adam Yeah, it is.
Adam It is, it's basically, it's Andor.
Lee Or something, yeah.
Adam It's not part of the main nine, but, you know, it's, it counts.
Adam So,
Adam And basically, yeah, it's, it's the story, it's basically what Jesus did in the holidays.
Adam But what Jesus did while he was dead.
Adam So it's like a two, it's like a two-part thing.
Adam And it's the first is his trial and crucifixion.
Adam And then the second part is him going to hell, where he frees loads of people who like loads of souls from hell who shouldn't have gone.
Chris
Adam from what I can gather, mostly sort of like big important names.
Adam You know.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Because you know, the little people don't really count where the Jesus is concerned.
Adam Well, certainly in the in the hell of the fiction.
Adam But, yeah, Blessed Are the Meek, but, yeah.
Adam I did rescue that very rich pope from hell.
Chris Yeah.
Adam Where, where frankly, it'd probably been asking for it.
Adam but anyway, so and that is what's described as the harrowing of hell.
Adam Is Jesus freeing all these things.
Adam Cause it's a weird one because it's actually quite a positive, although it's called the harrowing of hell, it's like, oh, no, that's actually something positive taking place.
Adam Where souls are being freed, and similarly enough in this there is an element where.
Adam I mean, not from Katy's perspective.
Adam But where Hexter and Tabitha are doing.
Adam They're not devil worshippers, you know, they, they are.
Lee Yeah, they are try, yeah, I was gonna say, they are trying to do the right thing.
Lee Unfortunately, it just means that someone is going to get screwed over in order for them to save the world.
Lee So although they are the bad guys in a way, ultimately if they don't do that job, everyone's screwed.
Lee So it's, yeah, so they are kind of the good guys, but not.
Lee It's really strange.
Chris Well, and also, is it terrible for Katy?
Chris To become the vessel?
Lee Yes.
Adam I wouldn't like it.
Lee I wouldn't like Kate like that. I like half my shoes I'd have to throw away.
Chris He didn't actually seem like too unhappy.
Lee
Adam Yeah, because that's Castiel.
Lee Yeah.
Chris Yeah.
Adam You know, presumably you presume he's.
Chris Okay.
Adam You're you're still experi.
Adam Well, I'm assuming that 10-year-old Andress is stuck in there somewhere in this sort of tormented state.
Adam While this beast creature rages.
Adam That it can't be free to cause mischief.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And essentially, you are tied to a bed and fed rusks and milk for 50 years.
Adam Now,
Adam Some people probably quite like that.
Lee That's a King Cop not got for.
Adam You know, if you, but if you, well, I don't even mean that.
Adam I think just lazy bastards.
Adam You know, I'm just not even a king, just people who can't be asked.
Chris I just think that's funny. The stairlift because he couldn't be bothered to walk up the stairs.
Adam Oh, that's brilliant.
Adam I do because that's the thing as well is I like the first half because it's kind of, it's, well, I think that that was another thing that they mentioned was The Addams Family.
Adam Because it is that sort of thing of it's just these very unusual siblings, but also just the sort of thing say.
Adam Don't worry, I'm not a vampire, I play guitar.
Adam Where he's got the long thing, which he does, because obviously he brings the guitar out later.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And I do love, I love love that bit about the salt circle.
Adam He's like, maybe they got slokes.
Lee Yeah.
Lee Yeah.
Lee I, I just, I love that, and like, and it's shot so, and that's the thing, although, you know, as we've said before.
Lee It, it obviously draws quite a lot on that, House of the Devil, it's a very British version.
Lee Like, this is if Amicus did it.
Lee and I just love the look of everything.
Lee I mean, the house looks amazing.
Lee I mean, that artwork as well, when, when that goth girl turns up, Shelley and says, oh, I could live here.
Lee And I was like, I would kill to live there.
Lee You're crazy, like it's, but maybe not with the cold.
Lee But yeah, like.
Lee It's so dark.
Lee Because Jennifer mentioned while we were watching it this afternoon.
Lee She was like, oh, I think we're gonna struggle to spot the the hair.
Lee Oh, no, she said the opposite, sorry, she said it should be easy to spot the hair because the house is so kind of everyday.
Lee And I was like, yeah, but it's almost in the pitch black the whole way through.
Lee It's really hard to, I did spot the hair in the end.
Lee I was quite pleased with myself.
Adam Whereabouts is it?
Adam I don't.
Lee So when they go into Hector's bedroom and she picks up the guitar, there's a bedside lamp, there's like a bedside table with just a lamp and the hair is just the only thing that are the only other thing that's on the bedside table.
Adam Oh, well.
Adam Spotted sir.
Lee But yeah, that's the only time I've spotted it apart from in the episode where it plays obviously a massive part of the story.
Adam Well, this like like Seance Time, this is and The Riddle of the Sphinx.
Adam We've accidentally ended up back at Lang Langberry House for the interiors.
Adam
Adam So again, it's that really big, great gothic staircase.
Adam
Lee Now, I got it right. Sorry.
Lee I just, just before because you might be about to say it and I'm so pleased with myself that I think I spotted it.
Lee I believe that is the same staircase from Psychoville, that the house that the blind guy owned.
Lee Only because I remember Daniel Kaluuya standing at the bottom of the stairs there.
Lee yeah, and him going, got a lot of stuff, mate.
Adam Cause I think cause I think Psychoville and this.
Adam Shoots it almost exactly the same.
Lee Yeah.
Adam So, you know.
Adam I think that,
Adam Yeah, it's, it's in Psychoville, it was in White Chapel and it's yeah, it's rooms from it are in The Riddle of the Sphinx.
Adam Seance Time.
Adam Mostly utilizing that staircase.
Adam the, the chair the stairlift was a prop, but it wasn't functional.
Adam So that's just going up on like a pulley.
Lee It looks really good.
Adam It looks really good.
Adam But also when you think about it, you're like, actually, yeah, I don't think I see anyone.
Chris And it was on its last leg.
Adam I think Shelley's the only person you actually see in it moving.
Lee No.
Lee I think no, because Shell doesn't get in it cause her friend says it's too big.
Lee Yeah, you're too big for it.
Lee And you went, oh, I've only been here five minutes and you called me fat.
Lee But we do see Helen McCroy's character sit in it, but it doesn't move, she just sits in it at the bottom and then she gets up and wanders off, so, yeah.
Adam And also, and when Hexter appears, he just appears.
Adam Like you hear the stairlift.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And then they start using that as a scare tactic.
Adam Because then the stairlift is like, you're aware of what that means.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And it's quite, you know, that's actually quite a unique.
Adam Sort of scare, I think in something that they've used that.
Adam Especially with the.
Adam Yeah, I just think
Adam Because the house being cold as well is that the other thing that they mentioned was, oh, and they talk about ice holding Satan.
Adam that is in the ninth circle of hell.
Adam So again, they're trying to bring it back to it's Inside Number Nine.
Lee Yeah.
Lee There's just so much goes in writing these and I, I think even if you don't pick up on all of them.
Lee It just adds like another level, all those little extra bits that just goes to kind of solidify the universe that they're working in.
Lee
Lee Yeah.
Lee And that's.
Chris You see why there was a place for, for that book that you've got Adam.
Chris The Insiders Guide.
Adam Oh, fuck, yeah.
Adam I mean, this is the thing.
Adam The podcast they did as well, Inside Inside Number Nine, much the same thing cause you get it's that like most things you can sort of like, oh, well, there's the thing.
Adam I enjoyed it, there's the commentary.
Adam I enjoyed it or whatever.
Adam Whereas actually with this, there's so many sort of bits and pieces that you miss out on or sort of.
Adam Just suddenly make you aware when you've got this dense thing.
Chris Yeah.
Adam And, you know, because there isn't a slight episode really of Inside Number Nine.
Adam They, they're pretty, you know, it's pretty densely plotted or running out, you know, it's sort of, yeah.
Lee I can't work out how they have the time, like because they do so much other stuff as well.
Lee It seems like the writing process just for a single episode must be months, the amount of stuff that they cram into it and yeah, and they still seem to be doing 101 other projects at the same time.
Lee They must.
Lee Yeah, they must literally sleep for about two hours a night.
Lee I think I don't know where else they manage it.
Adam Are they, are they sticking.
Adam To the Vincent Price principal?
Lee Oh, yeah.
Adam You know, I'm not turning it down.
Adam I might not get off it again.
Lee Yeah.
Lee Yeah.
Lee It must be exhausting.
Lee But I mean, yeah, as fans of them, it's fantastic because it means there's always something being turned out and it's always top quality.
Lee As you say, you know, like.
Lee You know, how many seasons in a we now, seven, and there isn't a found in episode, there isn't a filler episode, there isn't one that you wouldn't go back and watch again.
Lee I mean.
Lee There's ones I've said I won't go back and watch again, but not because they're not great.
Lee But just because they pound the living shit out of me.
Lee They really do.
Lee Which is what they designed to do.
Lee So.
Adam Yeah.
Adam But I think also it's it's there's not really a similar thing.
Adam You haven't really had that thing of, oh, well, that was like that previous episode.
Adam Or that twist was similar to that.
Adam They've really managed to keep out of, you know, doubling up or.
Lee I just don't know where they've done it for 60 odd episodes and kept everyone so fresh.
Lee And you know, even the gimmicky episodes and stuff.
Lee Like I love those, I think they're so.
Lee Yeah, and just so well.
Chris They still work as the change.
Lee Yeah.
Lee It's not just like, oh, that's the, as you say, you know, the gimmicky one where they did it all in rhyme and stuff.
Lee Like, there's so much happens in that episode that's genuinely fantastic.
Lee and all they've really done is taken a really good episode.
Lee And made it even more difficult for themselves to write.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Yeah.
Adam Yeah.
Lee I just, I love that.
Lee And like, and it's shot so.
Lee And that's the thing, although, you know, as we've said before.
Lee It, it obviously draws quite a lot on that, House of the Devil, it's a very British version.
Lee Like, this is if Amicus did it.
Lee and I just love the look of everything.
Lee I mean, the house looks amazing.
Lee I mean, that artwork as well, when, when that goth girl turns up, Shelley and says, oh, I could live here.
Lee And I was like, I would kill to live there.
Lee You're crazy, like it's, but maybe not with the cold.
Lee But yeah, like.
Lee It's so dark.
Lee Because Jennifer mentioned while we were watching it this afternoon.
Lee She was like, oh, I think we're gonna struggle to spot the the hair.
Lee Oh, no, she said the opposite, sorry, she said it should be easy to spot the hair because the house is so kind of everyday.
Lee And I was like, yeah, but it's almost in the pitch black the whole way through.
Lee It's really hard to, I did spot the hair in the end.
Lee I was quite pleased with myself.
Adam Whereabouts is it?
Adam I don't.
Lee So when they go into Hector's bedroom and she picks up the guitar, there's a bedside lamp, there's like a bedside table with just a lamp and the hair is just the only thing that are the only other thing that's on the bedside table.
Adam Oh, well.
Adam Spotted sir.
Lee But yeah, that's the only time I've spotted it apart from in the episode where it plays obviously a massive part of the story.
Adam Well, this like like Seance Time, this is and The Riddle of the Sphinx.
Adam We've accidentally ended up back at Lang Langberry House for the interiors.
Adam
Adam So again, it's that really big, great gothic staircase.
Adam
Lee Now, I got it right. Sorry.
Lee I just, just before because you might be about to say it and I'm so pleased with myself that I think I spotted it.
Lee I believe that is the same staircase from Psychoville, that the house that the blind guy owned.
Lee Only because I remember Daniel Kaluuya standing at the bottom of the stairs there.
Lee yeah, and him going, got a lot of stuff, mate.
Adam Cause I think cause I think Psychoville and this.
Adam Shoots it almost exactly the same.
Lee Yeah.
Adam So, you know.
Adam I think that,
Adam Yeah, it's, it's in Psychoville, it was in White Chapel and it's yeah, it's rooms from it are in The Riddle of the Sphinx.
Adam Seance Time.
Adam Mostly utilizing that staircase.
Adam the, the chair the stairlift was a prop, but it wasn't functional.
Adam So that's just going up on like a pulley.
Lee It looks really good.
Adam It looks really good.
Adam But also when you think about it, you're like, actually, yeah, I don't think I see anyone.
Chris And it was on its last leg.
Adam I think Shelley's the only person you actually see in it moving.
Lee No.
Lee I think no, because Shell doesn't get in it cause her friend says it's too big.
Lee Yeah, you're too big for it.
Lee And you went, oh, I've only been here five minutes and you called me fat.
Lee But we do see Helen McCroy's character sit in it, but it doesn't move, she just sits in it at the bottom and then she gets up and wanders off, so, yeah.
Adam And also, and when Hexter appears, he just appears.
Adam Like you hear the stairlift.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And then they start using that as a scare tactic.
Adam Because then the stairlift is like, you're aware of what that means.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And it's quite, you know, that's actually quite a unique.
Adam Sort of scare, I think in something that they've used that.
Adam Especially with the.
Adam Yeah, I just think
Adam Because the house being cold as well is that the other thing that they mentioned was, oh, and they talk about ice holding Satan.
Adam that is in the ninth circle of hell.
Adam So again, they're trying to bring it back to it's Inside Number Nine.
Lee Yeah.
Lee There's just so much goes in writing these and I, I think even if you don't pick up on all of them.
Lee It just adds like another level, all those little extra bits that just goes to kind of solidify the universe that they're working in.
Lee
Lee Yeah.
Lee And that's.
Chris You see why there was a place for, for that book that you've got Adam.
Chris The Insiders Guide.
Adam Oh, fuck, yeah.
Adam I mean, this is the thing.
Adam The podcast they did as well, Inside Inside Number Nine, much the same thing cause you get it's that like most things you can sort of like, oh, well, there's the thing.
Adam I enjoyed it, there's the commentary.
Adam I enjoyed it or whatever.
Adam Whereas actually with this, there's so many sort of bits and pieces that you miss out on or sort of.
Adam Just suddenly make you aware when you've got this dense thing.
Chris Yeah.
Adam And, you know, because there isn't a slight episode really of Inside Number Nine.
Adam They, they're pretty, you know, it's pretty densely plotted or running out, you know, it's sort of, yeah.
Lee I can't work out how they have the time, like because they do so much other stuff as well.
Lee It seems like the writing process just for a single episode must be months, the amount of stuff that they cram into it and yeah, and they still seem to be doing 101 other projects at the same time.
Lee They must.
Lee Yeah, they must literally sleep for about two hours a night.
Lee I think I don't know where else they manage it.
Adam Are they, are they sticking.
Adam To the Vincent Price principal?
Lee Oh, yeah.
Adam You know, I'm not turning it down.
Adam I might not get off it again.
Lee Yeah.
Lee Yeah.
Lee It must be exhausting.
Lee But I mean, yeah, as fans of them, it's fantastic because it means there's always something being turned out and it's always top quality.
Lee As you say, you know, like.
Lee You know, how many seasons in a we now, seven, and there isn't a found in episode, there isn't a filler episode, there isn't one that you wouldn't go back and watch again.
Lee I mean.
Lee There's ones I've said I won't go back and watch again, but not because they're not great.
Lee But just because they pound the living shit out of me.
Lee They really do.
Lee Which is what they designed to do.
Lee So.
Adam Yeah.
Adam But I think also it's it's there's not really a similar thing.
Adam You haven't really had that thing of, oh, well, that was like that previous episode.
Adam Or that twist was similar to that.
Adam They've really managed to keep out of, you know, doubling up or.
Lee I just don't know where they've done it for 60 odd episodes and kept everyone so fresh.
Lee And you know, even the gimmicky episodes and stuff.
Lee Like I love those, I think they're so.
Lee Yeah, and just so well.
Chris They still work as the change.
Lee Yeah.
Lee It's not just like, oh, that's the, as you say, you know, the gimmicky one where they did it all in rhyme and stuff.
Lee Like, there's so much happens in that episode that's genuinely fantastic.
Lee and all they've really done is taken a really good episode.
Lee And made it even more difficult for themselves to write.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Yeah.
Adam Yeah.
Lee I just, I love that.
Lee And like, and it's shot so.
Lee And that's the thing, although, you know, as we've said before, it, it obviously draws quite a lot on that, House of the Devil, it's a very British version.
Lee Like, this is if Amicus did it.
Lee and I just love the look of everything.
Lee I mean, the house looks amazing.
Lee I mean, that artwork as well, when, when that goth girl turns up, Shelley and says, oh, I could live here.
Lee And I was like, I would kill to live there.
Lee You're crazy, like it's, but maybe not with the cold.
Lee But yeah, like.
Lee It's so dark.
Lee Because Jennifer mentioned while we were watching it this afternoon.
Lee She was like, oh, I think we're gonna struggle to spot the the hair.
Lee Oh, no, she said the opposite, sorry, she said it should be easy to spot the hair because the house is so kind of everyday.
Lee And I was like, yeah, but it's almost in the pitch black the whole way through.
Lee It's really hard to, I did spot the hair in the end.
Lee I was quite pleased with myself.
Adam Whereabouts is it?
Adam I don't.
Lee So when they go into Hector's bedroom and she picks up the guitar, there's a bedside lamp, there's like a bedside table with just a lamp and the hair is just the only thing that are the only other thing that's on the bedside table.
Adam Oh, well.
Adam Spotted sir.
Lee But yeah, that's the only time I've spotted it apart from in the episode where it plays obviously a massive part of the story.
Adam Well, this like like Seance Time, this is and The Riddle of the Sphinx.
Adam We've accidentally ended up back at Lang Langberry House for the interiors.
Adam
Adam So again, it's that really big, great gothic staircase.
Adam
Lee Now, I got it right. Sorry.
Lee I just, just before because you might be about to say it and I'm so pleased with myself that I think I spotted it.
Lee I believe that is the same staircase from Psychoville, that the house that the blind guy owned.
Lee Only because I remember Daniel Kaluuya standing at the bottom of the stairs there.
Lee yeah, and him going, got a lot of stuff, mate.
Adam Cause I think cause I think Psychoville and this.
Adam Shoots it almost exactly the same.
Lee Yeah.
Adam So, you know.
Adam I think that,
Adam Yeah, it's, it's in Psychoville, it was in White Chapel and it's yeah, it's rooms from it are in The Riddle of the Sphinx.
Adam Seance Time.
Adam Mostly utilizing that staircase.
Adam the, the chair the stairlift was a prop, but it wasn't functional.
Adam So that's just going up on like a pulley.
Lee It looks really good.
Adam It looks really good.
Adam But also when you think about it, you're like, actually, yeah, I don't think I see anyone.
Chris And it was on its last leg.
Adam I think Shelley's the only person you actually see in it moving.
Lee No.
Lee I think no, because Shell doesn't get in it cause her friend says it's too big.
Lee Yeah, you're too big for it.
Lee And you went, oh, I've only been here five minutes and you called me fat.
Lee But we do see Helen McCroy's character sit in it, but it doesn't move, she just sits in it at the bottom and then she gets up and wanders off, so, yeah.
Adam And also, and when Hexter appears, he just appears.
Adam Like you hear the stairlift.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And then they start using that as a scare tactic.
Adam Because then the stairlift is like, you're aware of what that means.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And it's quite, you know, that's actually quite a unique.
Adam Sort of scare, I think in something that they've used that.
Adam Especially with the.
Adam Yeah, I just think
Adam Because the house being cold as well is that the other thing that they mentioned was, oh, and they talk about ice holding Satan.
Adam that is in the ninth circle of hell.
Adam So again, they're trying to bring it back to it's Inside Number Nine.
Lee Yeah.
Lee There's just so much goes in writing these and I, I think even if you don't pick up on all of them.
Lee It just adds like another level, all those little extra bits that just goes to kind of solidify the universe that they're working in.
Lee
Lee Yeah.
Lee And that's.
Chris You see why there was a place for, for that book that you've got Adam.
Chris The Insiders Guide.
Adam Oh, fuck, yeah.
Adam I mean, this is the thing.
Adam The podcast they did as well, Inside Inside Number Nine, much the same thing cause you get it's that like most things you can sort of like, oh, well, there's the thing.
Adam I enjoyed it, there's the commentary.
Adam I enjoyed it or whatever.
Adam Whereas actually with this, there's so many sort of bits and pieces that you miss out on or sort of.
Adam Just suddenly make you aware when you've got this dense thing.
Chris Yeah.
Adam And, you know, because there isn't a slight episode really of Inside Number Nine.
Adam They, they're pretty, you know, it's pretty densely plotted or running out, you know, it's sort of, yeah.
Lee I can't work out how they have the time, like because they do so much other stuff as well.
Lee It seems like the writing process just for a single episode must be months, the amount of stuff that they cram into it and yeah, and they still seem to be doing 101 other projects at the same time.
Lee They must.
Lee Yeah, they must literally sleep for about two hours a night.
Lee I think I don't know where else they manage it.
Adam Are they, are they sticking.
Adam To the Vincent Price principal?
Lee Oh, yeah.
Adam You know, I'm not turning it down.
Adam I might not get off it again.
Lee Yeah.
Lee Yeah.
Lee It must be exhausting.
Lee But I mean, yeah, as fans of them, it's fantastic because it means there's always something being turned out and it's always top quality.
Lee As you say, you know, like.
Lee You know, how many seasons in a we now, seven, and there isn't a found in episode, there isn't a filler episode, there isn't one that you wouldn't go back and watch again.
Lee I mean.
Lee There's ones I've said I won't go back and watch again, but not because they're not great.
Lee But just because they pound the living shit out of me.
Lee They really do.
Lee Which is what they designed to do.
Lee So.
Adam Yeah.
Adam But I think also it's it's there's not really a similar thing.
Adam You haven't really had that thing of, oh, well, that was like that previous episode.
Adam Or that twist was similar to that.
Adam They've really managed to keep out of, you know, doubling up or.
Lee I just don't know where they've done it for 60 odd episodes and kept everyone so fresh.
Lee And you know, even the gimmicky episodes and stuff.
Lee Like I love those, I think they're so.
Lee Yeah, and just so well.
Chris They still work as the change.
Lee Yeah.
Lee It's not just like, oh, that's the, as you say, you know, the gimmicky one where they did it all in rhyme and stuff.
Lee Like, there's so much happens in that episode that's genuinely fantastic.
Lee and all they've really done is taken a really good episode.
Lee And made it even more difficult for themselves to write.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Yeah.
Adam Yeah.
Lee I just, I love that.
Lee And like, and it's shot so.
Lee And that's the thing, although, you know, as we've said before, it, it obviously draws quite a lot on that, House of the Devil, it's a very British version.
Lee Like, this is if Amicus did it.
Lee and I just love the look of everything.
Lee I mean, the house looks amazing.
Lee I mean, that artwork as well, when, when that goth girl turns up, Shelley and says, oh, I could live here.
Lee And I was like, I would kill to live there.
Lee You're crazy, like it's, but maybe not with the cold.
Lee But yeah, like.
Lee It's so dark.
Lee Because Jennifer mentioned while we were watching it this afternoon.
Lee She was like, oh, I think we're gonna struggle to spot the the hair.
Lee Oh, no, she said the opposite, sorry, she said it should be easy to spot the hair because the house is so kind of everyday.
Lee And I was like, yeah, but it's almost in the pitch black the whole way through.
Lee It's really hard to, I did spot the hair in the end.
Lee I was quite pleased with myself.
Adam Whereabouts is it?
Adam I don't.
Lee So when they go into Hector's bedroom and she picks up the guitar, there's a bedside lamp, there's like a bedside table with just a lamp and the hair is just the only thing that are the only other thing that's on the bedside table.
Adam Oh, well.
Adam Spotted sir.
Lee But yeah, that's the only time I've spotted it apart from in the episode where it plays obviously a massive part of the story.
Adam Well, this like like Seance Time, this is and The Riddle of the Sphinx.
Adam We've accidentally ended up back at Lang Langberry House for the interiors.
Adam
Adam So again, it's that really big, great gothic staircase.
Adam
Lee Now, I got it right. Sorry.
Lee I just, just before because you might be about to say it and I'm so pleased with myself that I think I spotted it.
Lee I believe that is the same staircase from Psychoville, that the house that the blind guy owned.
Lee Only because I remember Daniel Kaluuya standing at the bottom of the stairs there.
Lee yeah, and him going, got a lot of stuff, mate.
Adam Cause I think cause I think Psychoville and this.
Adam Shoots it almost exactly the same.
Lee Yeah.
Adam So, you know.
Adam I think that,
Adam Yeah, it's, it's in Psychoville, it was in White Chapel and it's yeah, it's rooms from it are in The Riddle of the Sphinx.
Adam Seance Time.
Adam Mostly utilizing that staircase.
Adam the, the chair the stairlift was a prop, but it wasn't functional.
Adam So that's just going up on like a pulley.
Lee It looks really good.
Adam It looks really good.
Adam But also when you think about it, you're like, actually, yeah, I don't think I see anyone.
Chris And it was on its last leg.
Adam I think Shelley's the only person you actually see in it moving.
Lee No.
Lee I think no, because Shell doesn't get in it cause her friend says it's too big.
Lee Yeah, you're too big for it.
Lee And you went, oh, I've only been here five minutes and you called me fat.
Lee But we do see Helen McCroy's character sit in it, but it doesn't move, she just sits in it at the bottom and then she gets up and wanders off, so, yeah.
Adam And also, and when Hexter appears, he just appears.
Adam Like you hear the stairlift.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And then they start using that as a scare tactic.
Adam Because then the stairlift is like, you're aware of what that means.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And it's quite, you know, that's actually quite a unique.
Adam Sort of scare, I think in something that they've used that.
Adam Especially with the.
Adam Yeah, I just think
Adam Because the house being cold as well is that the other thing that they mentioned was, oh, and they talk about ice holding Satan.
Adam that is in the ninth circle of hell.
Adam So again, they're trying to bring it back to it's Inside Number Nine.
Lee Yeah.
Lee There's just so much goes in writing these and I, I think even if you don't pick up on all of them.
Lee It just adds like another level, all those little extra bits that just goes to kind of solidify the universe that they're working in.
Lee
Lee Yeah.
Lee And that's.
Chris You see why there was a place for, for that book that you've got Adam.
Chris The Insiders Guide.
Adam Oh, fuck, yeah.
Adam I mean, this is the thing.
Adam The podcast they did as well, Inside Inside Number Nine, much the same thing cause you get it's that like most things you can sort of like, oh, well, there's the thing.
Adam I enjoyed it, there's the commentary.
Adam I enjoyed it or whatever.
Adam Whereas actually with this, there's so many sort of bits and pieces that you miss out on or sort of.
Adam Just suddenly make you aware when you've got this dense thing.
Chris Yeah.
Adam And, you know, because there isn't a slight episode really of Inside Number Nine.
Adam They, they're pretty, you know, it's pretty densely plotted or running out, you know, it's sort of, yeah.
Lee I can't work out how they have the time, like because they do so much other stuff as well.
Lee It seems like the writing process just for a single episode must be months, the amount of stuff that they cram into it and yeah, and they still seem to be doing 101 other projects at the same time.
Lee They must.
Lee Yeah, they must literally sleep for about two hours a night.
Lee I think I don't know where else they manage it.
Adam Are they, are they sticking.
Adam To the Vincent Price principal?
Lee Oh, yeah.
Adam You know, I'm not turning it down.
Adam I might not get off it again.
Lee Yeah.
Lee Yeah.
Lee It must be exhausting.
Lee But I mean, yeah, as fans of them, it's fantastic because it means there's always something being turned out and it's always top quality.
Lee As you say, you know, like.
Lee You know, how many seasons in a we now, seven, and there isn't a found in episode, there isn't a filler episode, there isn't one that you wouldn't go back and watch again.
Lee I mean.
Lee There's ones I've said I won't go back and watch again, but not because they're not great.
Lee But just because they pound the living shit out of me.
Lee They really do.
Lee Which is what they designed to do.
Lee So.
Adam Yeah.
Adam But I think also it's it's there's not really a similar thing.
Adam You haven't really had that thing of, oh, well, that was like that previous episode.
Adam Or that twist was similar to that.
Adam They've really managed to keep out of, you know, doubling up or.
Lee I just don't know where they've done it for 60 odd episodes and kept everyone so fresh.
Lee And you know, even the gimmicky episodes and stuff.
Lee Like I love those, I think they're so.
Lee Yeah, and just so well.
Chris They still work as the change.
Lee Yeah.
Lee It's not just like, oh, that's the, as you say, you know, the gimmicky one where they did it all in rhyme and stuff.
Lee Like, there's so much happens in that episode that's genuinely fantastic.
Lee and all they've really done is taken a really good episode.
Lee And made it even more difficult for themselves to write.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Yeah.
Adam Yeah.
Lee I just, I love that.
Lee And like, and it's shot so.
Lee And that's the thing, although, you know, as we've said before, it, it obviously draws quite a lot on that, House of the Devil, it's a very British version.
Lee Like, this is if Amicus did it.
Lee and I just love the look of everything.
Lee I mean, the house looks amazing.
Lee I mean, that artwork as well, when, when that goth girl turns up, Shelley and says, oh, I could live here.
Lee And I was like, I would kill to live there.
Lee You're crazy, like it's, but maybe not with the cold.
Lee But yeah, like.
Lee It's so dark.
Lee Because Jennifer mentioned while we were watching it this afternoon.
Lee She was like, oh, I think we're gonna struggle to spot the the hair.
Lee Oh, no, she said the opposite, sorry, she said it should be easy to spot the hair because the house is so kind of everyday.
Lee And I was like, yeah, but it's almost in the pitch black the whole way through.
Lee It's really hard to, I did spot the hair in the end.
Lee I was quite pleased with myself.
Adam Whereabouts is it?
Adam I don't.
Lee So when they go into Hector's bedroom and she picks up the guitar, there's a bedside lamp, there's like a bedside table with just a lamp and the hair is just the only thing that are the only other thing that's on the bedside table.
Adam Oh, well.
Adam Spotted sir.
Lee But yeah, that's the only time I've spotted it apart from in the episode where it plays obviously a massive part of the story.
Adam Well, this like like Seance Time, this is and The Riddle of the Sphinx.
Adam We've accidentally ended up back at Lang Langberry House for the interiors.
Adam
Adam So again, it's that really big, great gothic staircase.
Adam
Lee Now, I got it right. Sorry.
Lee I just, just before because you might be about to say it and I'm so pleased with myself that I think I spotted it.
Lee I believe that is the same staircase from Psychoville, that the house that the blind guy owned.
Lee Only because I remember Daniel Kaluuya standing at the bottom of the stairs there.
Lee yeah, and him going, got a lot of stuff, mate.
Adam Cause I think cause I think Psychoville and this.
Adam Shoots it almost exactly the same.
Lee Yeah.
Adam So, you know.
Adam I think that,
Adam Yeah, it's, it's in Psychoville, it was in White Chapel and it's yeah, it's rooms from it are in The Riddle of the Sphinx.
Adam Seance Time.
Adam Mostly utilizing that staircase.
Adam the, the chair the stairlift was a prop, but it wasn't functional.
Adam So that's just going up on like a pulley.
Lee It looks really good.
Adam It looks really good.
Adam But also when you think about it, you're like, actually, yeah, I don't think I see anyone.
Chris And it was on its last leg.
Adam I think Shelley's the only person you actually see in it moving.
Lee No.
Lee I think no, because Shell doesn't get in it cause her friend says it's too big.
Lee Yeah, you're too big for it.
Lee And you went, oh, I've only been here five minutes and you called me fat.
Lee But we do see Helen McCroy's character sit in it, but it doesn't move, she just sits in it at the bottom and then she gets up and wanders off, so, yeah.
Adam And also, and when Hexter appears, he just appears.
Adam Like you hear the stairlift.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And then they start using that as a scare tactic.
Adam Because then the stairlift is like, you're aware of what that means.
Lee Yeah.
Adam And it's quite, you know, that's actually quite a unique.
Adam Sort of scare, I think in something that they've used that.
Adam Especially with the.
Adam Yeah, I just think
Adam Because the house being cold as well is that the other thing that they mentioned was, oh, and they talk about ice holding Satan.
Adam that is in the ninth circle of hell.
Adam So again, they're trying to bring it back to it's Inside Number Nine.
Lee Yeah.
Lee There's just so much goes in writing these and I, I think even if you don't pick up on all of them.
Lee It just adds like another level, all those little extra bits that just goes to kind of solidify the universe that they're working in.
Lee
Lee Yeah.
Lee And that's.
Chris You see why there was a place for, for that book that you've got Adam.
Chris The Insiders Guide.
Adam Oh, fuck, yeah.
Adam I mean, this is the thing.
Adam The podcast they did as well, Inside Inside Number Nine, much the same thing cause you get it's that like most things you can sort of like, oh, well, there's the thing.
Adam I enjoyed it, there's the commentary.
Adam I enjoyed it or whatever.
Adam Whereas actually with this, there's so many sort of bits and pieces that you miss out on or sort of.
Adam Just suddenly make you aware when you've got this dense thing.
Chris Yeah.
Adam And, you know, because there isn't a slight episode really of Inside Number Nine.
Adam They, they're pretty, you know, it's pretty densely plotted or running out, you know, it's sort of, yeah.
Lee I can't work out how they have the time, like because they do so much other stuff as well.
Lee It seems like the writing process just for a single episode must be months, the amount of stuff that they cram into it and yeah, and they still seem to be doing 101 other projects at the same time.
Lee They must.
Lee Yeah, they must literally sleep for about two hours a night.
Lee I think I don't know where else they manage it.
Adam Are they, are they sticking.
Adam To the Vincent Price principal?
Lee Oh, yeah.
Adam You know, I'm not turning it down.
Adam I might not get off it again.
Lee Yeah.
Lee Yeah.
Lee It must be exhausting.
Lee But I mean, yeah, as fans of them, it's fantastic because it means there's always something being turned out and it's always top quality.
Lee As you say, you know, like.
Lee You know, how many seasons in a we now, seven, and there isn't a found in episode, there isn't a filler episode, there isn't one that you wouldn't go back and watch again.
Lee I mean.
Lee There's ones I've said I won't go back and watch again, but not because they're not great.
Lee But just because they pound the living shit out of me.
Lee They really do.
Lee Which is what they designed to do.
Lee So.
Adam Yeah.
Adam But I think also it's it's there's not really a similar thing.
Adam You haven't really had that thing of, oh, well, that was like that previous episode.
Adam Or that twist was similar to that.
Adam They've really managed to keep out of, you know, doubling up or.
Lee I just don't know where they've done it for 60 odd episodes and kept everyone so fresh.
Lee And you know, even the gimmicky episodes and stuff.
Lee Like I love those, I think they're so.
Lee Yeah, and just so well.
Chris They still work as the change.
Lee Yeah.
Lee It's not just like, oh, that's the, as you say, you know, the gimmicky one where they did it all in rhyme and stuff.
Lee Like, there's so much happens in that episode that's genuinely fantastic.
Lee and all they've really done is taken a really good episode.
Lee And made it even more difficult for themselves to write.
Lee Yeah.
Adam Yeah.
Adam Yeah.
Lee I just, I love that.
Lee And like, and it's shot so.
Lee And that's the thing, although, you know, as we've said before, it, it obviously draws quite a lot on that, House of the Devil, it's a very British version.
Lee Like, this is if Amicus did it.
Lee and I just love the look of everything.
Lee I mean, the house looks amazing.
Lee I mean, that artwork as well, when, when that goth girl turns up, Shelley and says, oh, I could live here.
Lee And I was like, I would kill to live there.
Lee You're crazy, like it's, but maybe not with the cold.
Lee But yeah, like.
Lee It's so dark.
Lee Because Jennifer mentioned while we were watching it this afternoon.
Lee She was like, oh, I think we're gonna struggle to spot the the hair.
Lee Oh, no, she said the opposite, sorry, she said it should be easy to spot the hair because the house is so kind of everyday.
Lee And I was like, yeah, but it's almost in the pitch black the whole way through.
Lee It's really hard to, I did spot the hair in the end.
Lee I was quite pleased with myself.
Adam Whereabouts is it?
Adam I don't.
Lee So when they go into Hector's bedroom and she picks up the guitar, there's a bedside lamp, there's like a bedside table with just a lamp and the hair is just the only thing that are the only other thing that's on the bedside table.
Adam Oh, well.
Adam Spotted sir.
Lee But yeah, that's the only time I've spotted it apart from in the episode where it plays obviously a massive part of the story.
Adam Well, this like like Seance Time, this is and The Riddle of the Sphinx.
Adam We've accidentally ended up back at Lang Langberry House for the interiors.
Adam
Adam So again, it's that really big, great gothic staircase.
Adam
Lee Now, I got it right. Sorry.
Lee I just, just before because you might be about to say it and I'm so pleased with myself that I think I spotted it.
Lee I believe that is the same staircase from Psychoville, that the house that the blind guy owned.
Lee Only because I remember Daniel Kaluuya standing at the bottom of the stairs there.
Lee yeah, and him going, got a lot of stuff, mate.
Adam Cause I think cause I think Psychoville and this.
Adam Shoots it almost exactly the same.
Lee Yeah.
Adam So, you know.
Adam I think that,
Adam Yeah, it's, it's in Psychoville, it was in White Chapel and it's yeah, it's rooms from it are in The Riddle of the Sphinx.
Adam Seance Time.
Adam Mostly utilizing that staircase.
Adam the, the chair the stairlift was a prop, but it wasn't functional.
Adam So that's just going up on like a pulley.
Lee It looks really good.
