Inside No.9 pt3
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And we open the “Inside No.9 Christmas Selection Box” one last time, but unlike a normal selection box, we’re not left with a few toffee pennies and that horrible coconut one. No, we’ve got a hazelnut whirl and a caramel barrel! (SNAP! There goes that metaphor.) First off we have season 1’s horror foray “The Harrowing”, where we learn what rhymes with “Moloch”. And then we finish with “The Devil of Christmas”, an outstanding evocation of television of yore, with a mention of eating an onion as if ‘twere an apple. SPOILERS AHOY SO PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE WATCH THESE FANTASTIC EPISODES BEFORE WE RUIN THE MANY TWISTS AND TURNS SO MASTERFULLY CRAFTED BY SHEARSMITH AND PEMBERTON. Watch (or re-watch), join us and have a Merry Messy Christmas
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LeeGood evening and welcome to horror. I'm Lee.
ChrisI'm Chris.
AdamI'm Adam.
LeeAnd we are here for our Christmas party. Woohoo!
AdamHey!
LeeYeah, that's what I'm trying to do. I've got a bottle opener in one hand and a bottle in the other.
ChrisIt's not working.
LeeI've been drinking for about 30 years. You think I'd know how to open a pissing bottle.
AdamYes.
ChrisIs this a joke bottle Jennifer's given you?
LeeOh, there we go. Yay. Noiseless. Anyway.
LeeYes, there will be spoilers, there will be swearing. Definitely go and watch this, as we've said, with all of the inside number nines, because yeah, although they're fantastic to watch.
LeeThey work so much better the first time around, so don't let us ruin it for you because.
AdamAbsolutely.
LeeBecause it's amazing.
Leeso this evening we are going to be covering the harrowing and the Devil of Christmas.
Leeso first up, let's cover the harrowing, shall we?
Adam
Leeyeah, I, I remember when this one first aired being really super excited.
LeeI think I mentioned before, like obviously I know the guys are all really into their horror.
LeeSo I was watching the whole of the first series going, is it gonna be a horror one? Is it gonna be a horror one?
LeeAnd then waiting until the last episode, oh, yeah, and this just cherry on the cake season one, isn't it?
AdamI, I think that they,
AdamI think they probably deliberately held back because it was like, right, we can do a ball out horror.
AdamWe're not putting that one first because it'd put.
LeeNo, because it'd put people off.
AdamOh, 100%.
AdamIf people watch this one, I think like sardine starting series one was probably
Adamthe best because it gives you, you know, that it basically gives you the proper setup of, right.
AdamWhat you're about to get is about 20 minutes roughly of comedy, 10 minutes of horrible unease.
Lee
AdamAnd a twist and a payoff.
Adam
AdamSo, but I think the harrowing would have been as I, I mean, we would have been sold.
AdamBut I think, you know, there is a that the League's fan base isn't just purely people who also have watched The Devil rides out.
Chris
Adam100 times.
AdamSo,
ChrisWell, it's funny, Lee, that you actually said it works better the first time.
ChrisIt, it, you know, that makes sense.
ChrisBecause you don't know the twist, but actually for some reason I so enjoyed watching this the second time.
ChrisAnd I was, I was thinking, you know, yeah, maybe I won't.
ChrisBut for some reason, in a way, almost the comedy works more because I'm not on edge as much thinking, wait, where's this gonna go?
LeeYeah.
ChrisLike, and trying to guess it, it's just like, no, I kind of, you know, I forgot a little bit, a few of the details.
ChrisBut then yeah, some of the jokes, it's just like you're more relaxed and you're just enjoying the way that they have constructed so many like little details.
ChrisYou just think, yeah, you've just got that so well.
ChrisAnd it was, yeah, it was making me laugh so much more this time around.
AdamDefinitely.
LeeHang on.
LeeSorry.
AdamGo on, man.
LeeI was just going to say.
AdamI was going to say, go on, Lee, Lee, go on.
LeeAdam, go.
LeeRight, yeah, I, I think the cast for this one.
LeeIs just, like, I, I loved, as we said before, you know, the way they do people in just the once and let them do one.
Chris
AdamYeah.
LeeBut yeah, the cast in this one is just phenomenal.
LeeI remember at the time, as soon as I realized it was gonna be a horror one, I was excited.
LeeAnd then of course Helen McCory comes in, and Amy, who plays Katy, who I've seen in other stuff as well, she was in Luther.
AdamYeah, she was around, yeah, around the same time she was in Luther, again, playing up to the fact that she looks so much younger than she actually is.
LeeExactly, yeah.
Chris
LeeAnd she does a good job of that as well, like even her speech and everything, she comes across as quite a young girl.
ChrisReally convincingly.
AdamYeah.
LeeBut yeah, I just, yeah, I, I just loved that whole, I mean, it's very much, the story of this is pretty very much the same as,
LeeHouse of the Devil.
AdamYeah.
LeeEffectively.
Adamwhich we do need to cover on the show because you do need to see it, Chris.
ChrisSounds like we do, yeah.
AdamYeah, you might have an inkling as to what happens in it.
Adam
AdamBut that, that, that was one of the influences that they talked about or said that, you know, it's.
AdamBecause yeah, when I was watching it, it was House of the Devil with the score from Suspiria.
AdamIt was pretty much how I was watching it.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd then in, in the sort of, I'm gonna say again.
AdamBecause it's a great thing, The Insider's Guide to Inside Number Nine by Mark Salisbury is where I've got most of my notes and sort of additional info and stuff like that from.
AdamAnd yeah, they mentioned House they mentioned House of the Devil, they like David Kerr, the director.
AdamMentions because the score was going in that sort of goblin, but also that sort of electronic.
AdamCause apparently, he like the composer dug out a load of, yeah, Christian Henson dug out a load of his old analog synths and stuff like that to go for this one.
Adam
Adam
AdamYeah, I think it's really one of their best ones because this is almost like they've not got to they're not having to sell you.
AdamSay for example, like we had with Seance Time, which sells you that you're gonna be watching a very scary.
AdamSort of, you know, almost to the point of cliche horror thing.
Chris
AdamAnd then that actually gets then subverted and actually know you're watching an in-camera show and stuff like that.
AdamWhereas this is dread and unease from the start.
AdamAnd it stays there.
LeeYeah.
AdamBecause this is, yeah, this is the horror one, as it were.
LeeBut as we, you know, as we say, although it does have a lot of similarities to House of the Devil, what I love about House of the Devil.
LeeIs that it keeps that tension going for such a long time, but this has just as much tension.
LeeAnd somehow manages to cram it into a third of the runtime.
LeeAnd just keep it.
LeeYou know, like it doesn't feel rushed.
LeeEverything's allowed to take as long as it needs to take to build that discomfort and unease.
LeeBut they do it in such a short period of time.
LeeIt's absolutely insane.
AdamWhile still being funny.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah.
AdamExactly, you know, because that's, that's, that's the cleverest thing is because and it's, I'm not gonna claim that it's an easy sell to sell dread because so many films fail to do it.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd they're the ones that really do it are exceptionally good.
Adam
AdamBut yeah, they are rarely humorous as well.
ChrisI was trying to think, the humor in this, it is kind of deadpan.
ChrisIsn't it, throughout, it's they're making the jokes, but it's, it's not, you know, they're not setting you up really, it's,
ChrisYeah, like just some of the little comments that each of them make.
ChrisLike, what is it? Do you know Po? Oh yeah, teletubbies.
AdamThey got Teletubbies.
ChrisYeah, and they're just talking, but then, what was her name? Mcroy, like it's just the way she's looking and then she adjusts to sort of move past that.
ChrisWhich, in, in reality, you know, that'd be very awkward.
LeeYeah.
AdamOh, yeah.
ChrisYeah, and she moves on and it's funnier again.
LeeWell, even in the even at the super tense part at the end, you know, where he pulls out a taser and she goes, right, so you haven't got the internet, but you've got a fucking taser.
ChrisYeah.
LeeLike, but it doesn't take the tension away. I don't know how they just manage to keep everything.
LeeIt's so many balls in the air at once.
LeeAnd there's just there's never a misstep. I honestly don't know how they manage it, it's phenomenal.
AdamThe beauty of the humor of it as well.
AdamIs that feels an I, I don't know whether this is like my brain or sort of a lot of people.
AdamBut the comedic bits actually also sell the reality.
AdamTo me.
AdamIn as much as it's like they go through the whole thing of you've been chosen and he will enter your body.
AdamAnd she just.
AdamFuck off!
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd yeah, it's funny.
AdamBut how is that not your reaction if someone starts doing that?
ChrisYeah.
AdamLike these two extraordinary dressed and weird people start telling you that they're going to be the vessel for a mischief demon.
LeeYeah.
AdamYou know, the first, the way you say, yeah, the way you say that.
ChrisYeah, they say.
AdamOver and over.
AdamOh yeah.
LeeAnd those cloven feet as well.
LeeLike it's, oh, it's just, it's so beautifully done.
Lee
AdamWell, originally they were, they were gonna have Andreas more obviously a demon.
Chris
AdamBut from a budgetary point of view, they couldn't have like a full winged prosthetic made up demon.
AdamSo they sort of set about going back on it and that's when they brought in the sort of elements of.
AdamOh, is this actually, as, Katy thinks, oh, no, this is just abuse.
AdamThis is just.
ChrisYeah, yeah.
AdamYou know, this is just, and again, it's that lovely thing of your brain.
Adamthat I think that she is an extremely rational and clever character. I mean, obviously she's just caught in a fucking awful circumstance.
Chris
AdamBut her reactions.
AdamLike it's like, she's not gonna go in there.
AdamAnd it's like, right, this is why they're being creepy is because they've got this poor bastard locked up in here.
AdamLet's get him out. Let's help him.
Chris
AdamAnd even when they go through that, she doesn't follow the demonology supernatural element of it.
AdamShe is just like, no.
AdamYou're just treating him like shit.
LeeYeah.
AdamMy mum's got hard feet at like.
LeeHard feet.
AdamHard feet.
Lee
AdamAnd all those sort of bits, but yeah, so they.
AdamAgain, working within the restrictions they've got, I think it's probably added to it.
AdamRather than having something that is clearly a supernatural entity.
ChrisYeah, yeah, quite possibly.
AdamSitting in the bed, you've just got this possibly disabled old man, you know, or sort of.
AdamOr just maltreated figure.
Adamthey said that they, what was it, the, the, the things they said for him were.
Adamobviously the Pale Man from Pan's Labyrinth was an inspiration on that.
LeeYeah.
Adamand Sloth in Seven.
LeeYeah.
AdamYou know, when they break in.
LeeYeah.
Adamand also they wanted him to move like the Jadda Man from the Meff advert.
LeeOh.
AdamWhich is, which again, is one of those weird ones that does seem to have just stuck with a lot of people.
LeeYeah.
AdamOf and.
AdamAnd certainly a lot of sort of younger watchers who were like sort of, you know, that's genuinely one of those sort of childhood creepy moments of just.
AdamWhat the fuck is this?
LeeYeah.
AdamYou know.
Adam
AdamBut, oh, and to, so obviously, like I said, we're talking series one, we're talking episode six, which was the was the the last one.
AdamFirst broadcast on the 12th of March, 2014.
Adamand the director is David Kerr.
AdamWho directed all of series one.
LeeOh, I didn't realize that.
AdamThat, that whole thing cause I assumed sort of when I was looking back through it, I was like, oh, they must have always used multiple directors.
AdamBut no, the first series is just David Kerr who did every single one.
AdamSo the fact that they are so varied and everything else like that is a real testament to him as much as them.
LeeYeah.
Chris
ChrisWhat else?
AdamBecause.
AdamSo, so series one is Sardines, a Quiet Night In, which is the silent one, Tom and Jerry, Last Gasp, and The Understudy.
Adamand then obviously this.
AdamAnd then he also did Zanzibar and To Have and To Hold.
Adamin series four.
AdamSo, he's, he also directed Johnny English Strikes Again.
ChrisOkay.
LeeOh.
ChrisThat seems a bit.
AdamBut he also.
AdamHe also directed Monkey Trousers, That Mitchell and Webb Look, That Mitchell and Webb Situation, Whites, No Offense and Fresh Meat.
AdamSo, you know, he's there.
ChrisThere's some, I would say some similarities with the Mitchell and Webb, they get kind of eerie.
LeeOh, yeah.
LeeYeah, they have some sinister characters in that as well, which is always nice.
ChrisYeah.
AdamAnd he talked about, he talked about The Innocents, The Haunting, The Orphanage and The Others.
Adamand I know that definitely like The Haunting and The Others have come up on previous ones we've looked at.
AdamSo I think they're pretty sort of key works when they're sort of going for this sort of thing.
Chris
Lee
LeeI think I'd go say, I think this is the first one as well that didn't have Steve Pemberton in, and I remember the first time watching it through.
LeeJust waiting to see Andress and being like, it's clearly gonna be Steve, it's got to be.
LeeAnd then when it wasn't, I was like, oh, yeah, no, that's totally thrown me.
AdamYeah.
AdamWell, because there's because it's weird, they never got, they've never gone back and done that, but, the.
AdamExcuse me.
AdamThe first series, I, I think it's the last breath, Reece is not in it.
Chris
AdamAnd I think that that's, Last Gasp, sorry.
Adamyeah, Reece isn't in that one, so I think possibly there was gonna be a plan that they wouldn't always.
AdamAppear.
LeeYeah.
AdamBecause I think that's that's because obviously when they were doing the league with Mark Gati, they were pretty much the entire cast.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd then they did Psychoville and I know they played multiple characters in Psychoville.
AdamYou've also got actors playing other characters.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd major characters, it's not just like.
AdamA waiter or someone, you know, you've got Dawn French in there and so on and Daniel Kaluuya.
LeeYeah.
AdamSo there's a lot of so I wonder if they were almost going for that where it's like, well, eventually would we just cast this.
Lee
Adamand just let it run.
AdamCause, yeah, I think it was only I think yeah, I was, I was in the same thing when I when I first watched it.
AdamIt was like, oh, Andrew's is clearly gonna be Steve.
Adamyou know.
AdamWhich certainly would not have been as effective as the guy they've got, Shaun Dooley.
ChrisYeah.
LeeYeah.
AdamYeah.
AdamWho is just, he's a movement artist, he worked with like Steven Berkov and stuff like that, so he's like a performance artist.
Adam
AdamSo he can, but he's in, he's in The Fifth Element, he's a scientist in The Fifth Element.
LeeOh.
AdamYeah.
Adam
AdamHe's in, I mean, clearly he's in fucking Game of Thrones, cause you do not have to do anything to him to make him terrifying.
Adam
AdamPeaky Blinders,
LeeOh, we had Helen McCroy again.
AdamExactly.
AdamAnd, Amy Fion Edwards, she was in Peaky Blinders as well.
LeeOh, yes, she was. Yes.
AdamYeah.
AdamShe was another Shelby.
AdamSo.
AdamYeah.
AdamAnd.
Adambut I think that yeah, his, he was in.
AdamThe Wedding of River Song, like a Doctor Who thing.
AdamBut the thing that I thought of was he's Albert in Toast of London, the Moose Trap.
AdamWhich is where he's going and doing this awful play and he's like the stage hand, but he only ever appears in like a sort of Lynchian blaze of electricity.
AdamAnd just stands there looking fucking terrifying.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd that and that is literally it, that is literally what he does.
AdamBut it's, yeah.
Adam
AdamBut no, he's a really, you know, and again, it's that thing of you've got.
AdamYou know, someone might have sat there and said, oh, well, you've just got some bloke lying in a bed, but they've gone and got someone who can really.
LeeYes, sell that character on multiple levels.
LeeI mean, it's.
LeeIt, it, and it, that's the thing with this, again, I know we've said it before with previous episodes of Inside Number Nine, when it's such a small cast, every performance counts.
LeeLike everyone has to be selling it 100% or it just doesn't work.
Leeyeah, which is why it's lovely to see all these fantastic actors who you know so well from other stuff.
Leeyeah, to just see him come on and just absolutely sell the shit out of this stuff.
LeeIt's so much so much fun.
LeeAnd it's always, it was always exciting when it was first airing, because I always made a point of not looking into it.
LeeAnd waiting for the episode and then going, oh, it's her, oh, it's him, oh, awesome, oh, I haven't seen him since I, yeah.
LeeAnd it kind of added to it, it was a bit of a like a variety performance.
LeeThere was always somebody there that yeah, that you just you knew you were you loved from other stuff and they just popped up.
LeeI mean,
LeeI think that's the thing, they must be so well regarded in the industry to be able to get these people to just drop.
LeeI mean, you think.
AdamPretty much anyone they need.
LeeYeah. I mean, Helen McCory was doing the Harry Potter movies at this point and still just came and.
LeeYeah.
AdamWell, apparently, apparently she was in a.
AdamShe was in a play with Reece.
AdamAnd he sort of suggested to her at that point.
AdamLike, did you wanna come and do this and apparently she was really up for it.
AdamBut again, like you say, I think it's just that level of respect and cachet that they've got within.
AdamYou know, cause everyone knows they're really fucking good.
AdamEven if, even if it's just the thing of it's like.
AdamWell, they're really successful, so maybe I could do with being in an episode of something they've done, you know what I mean?
AdamIt's like.
Adambut I mean, certainly not in Helen Mcroy's case, but.
Adamwho, who actually I I hadn't realized we'd last saw in episode one, two, four, interview with the vampire, where she played second whore.
LeeOh, right.
AdamOh.
AdamSo, you know, that's.
AdamNot not even the first.
AdamNot even.
ChrisNo, yeah.
ChrisShe's come a long way.
AdamIt's a meta, it's a meteoric career.
AdamUnfortunately no longer with us.
AdamBut.
LeeI was gonna say, yeah, shame we lost her last year, didn't we?
LeeBut.
AdamWas it last year? I think, yeah, I think it was actually.
AdamYeah.
Adam
AdamBut yeah, I mean, the.
AdamAnd I think that, oh, the what is it? They mention it, The Gospel of Nicodemus. I was looking into it. That genuinely is a text. It's Apocryphal Bible text. So it's stuff that's not considered part of the canon.
AdamLike, it's not properly one of the gospels.
LeeBut it's side quest.
AdamYeah, it is.
AdamIt is, it's basically, it's Andor.
LeeOr something, yeah.
AdamIt's not part of the main nine, but, you know, it's, it counts.
AdamSo,
AdamAnd basically, yeah, it's, it's the story, it's basically what Jesus did in the holidays.
AdamBut what Jesus did while he was dead.
AdamSo it's like a two, it's like a two-part thing.
AdamAnd it's the first is his trial and crucifixion.
AdamAnd then the second part is him going to hell, where he frees loads of people who like loads of souls from hell who shouldn't have gone.
Chris
Adamfrom what I can gather, mostly sort of like big important names.
AdamYou know.
LeeYeah.
AdamBecause you know, the little people don't really count where the Jesus is concerned.
AdamWell, certainly in the in the hell of the fiction.
AdamBut, yeah, Blessed Are the Meek, but, yeah.
AdamI did rescue that very rich pope from hell.
ChrisYeah.
AdamWhere, where frankly, it'd probably been asking for it.
Adambut anyway, so and that is what's described as the harrowing of hell.
AdamIs Jesus freeing all these things.
AdamCause it's a weird one because it's actually quite a positive, although it's called the harrowing of hell, it's like, oh, no, that's actually something positive taking place.
AdamWhere souls are being freed, and similarly enough in this there is an element where.
AdamI mean, not from Katy's perspective.
AdamBut where Hexter and Tabitha are doing.
AdamThey're not devil worshippers, you know, they, they are.
LeeYeah, they are try, yeah, I was gonna say, they are trying to do the right thing.
LeeUnfortunately, it just means that someone is going to get screwed over in order for them to save the world.
LeeSo although they are the bad guys in a way, ultimately if they don't do that job, everyone's screwed.
LeeSo it's, yeah, so they are kind of the good guys, but not.
LeeIt's really strange.
ChrisWell, and also, is it terrible for Katy?
ChrisTo become the vessel?
LeeYes.
AdamI wouldn't like it.
LeeI wouldn't like Kate like that. I like half my shoes I'd have to throw away.
ChrisHe didn't actually seem like too unhappy.
Lee
AdamYeah, because that's Castiel.
LeeYeah.
ChrisYeah.
AdamYou know, presumably you presume he's.
ChrisOkay.
AdamYou're you're still experi.
AdamWell, I'm assuming that 10-year-old Andress is stuck in there somewhere in this sort of tormented state.
AdamWhile this beast creature rages.
AdamThat it can't be free to cause mischief.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd essentially, you are tied to a bed and fed rusks and milk for 50 years.
AdamNow,
AdamSome people probably quite like that.
LeeThat's a King Cop not got for.
AdamYou know, if you, but if you, well, I don't even mean that.
AdamI think just lazy bastards.
AdamYou know, I'm just not even a king, just people who can't be asked.
ChrisI just think that's funny. The stairlift because he couldn't be bothered to walk up the stairs.
AdamOh, that's brilliant.
AdamI do because that's the thing as well is I like the first half because it's kind of, it's, well, I think that that was another thing that they mentioned was The Addams Family.
AdamBecause it is that sort of thing of it's just these very unusual siblings, but also just the sort of thing say.
AdamDon't worry, I'm not a vampire, I play guitar.
AdamWhere he's got the long thing, which he does, because obviously he brings the guitar out later.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd I do love, I love love that bit about the salt circle.
AdamHe's like, maybe they got slokes.
LeeYeah.
LeeYeah.
LeeI, I just, I love that, and like, and it's shot so, and that's the thing, although, you know, as we've said before.
LeeIt, it obviously draws quite a lot on that, House of the Devil, it's a very British version.
LeeLike, this is if Amicus did it.
Leeand I just love the look of everything.
LeeI mean, the house looks amazing.
LeeI mean, that artwork as well, when, when that goth girl turns up, Shelley and says, oh, I could live here.
LeeAnd I was like, I would kill to live there.
LeeYou're crazy, like it's, but maybe not with the cold.
LeeBut yeah, like.
LeeIt's so dark.
LeeBecause Jennifer mentioned while we were watching it this afternoon.
LeeShe was like, oh, I think we're gonna struggle to spot the the hair.
LeeOh, no, she said the opposite, sorry, she said it should be easy to spot the hair because the house is so kind of everyday.
LeeAnd I was like, yeah, but it's almost in the pitch black the whole way through.
LeeIt's really hard to, I did spot the hair in the end.
LeeI was quite pleased with myself.
AdamWhereabouts is it?
AdamI don't.
LeeSo when they go into Hector's bedroom and she picks up the guitar, there's a bedside lamp, there's like a bedside table with just a lamp and the hair is just the only thing that are the only other thing that's on the bedside table.
AdamOh, well.
AdamSpotted sir.
LeeBut yeah, that's the only time I've spotted it apart from in the episode where it plays obviously a massive part of the story.
AdamWell, this like like Seance Time, this is and The Riddle of the Sphinx.
AdamWe've accidentally ended up back at Lang Langberry House for the interiors.
Adam
AdamSo again, it's that really big, great gothic staircase.
Adam
LeeNow, I got it right. Sorry.
LeeI just, just before because you might be about to say it and I'm so pleased with myself that I think I spotted it.
LeeI believe that is the same staircase from Psychoville, that the house that the blind guy owned.
LeeOnly because I remember Daniel Kaluuya standing at the bottom of the stairs there.
Leeyeah, and him going, got a lot of stuff, mate.
AdamCause I think cause I think Psychoville and this.
AdamShoots it almost exactly the same.
LeeYeah.
AdamSo, you know.
AdamI think that,
AdamYeah, it's, it's in Psychoville, it was in White Chapel and it's yeah, it's rooms from it are in The Riddle of the Sphinx.
AdamSeance Time.
AdamMostly utilizing that staircase.
Adamthe, the chair the stairlift was a prop, but it wasn't functional.
AdamSo that's just going up on like a pulley.
LeeIt looks really good.
AdamIt looks really good.
AdamBut also when you think about it, you're like, actually, yeah, I don't think I see anyone.
ChrisAnd it was on its last leg.
AdamI think Shelley's the only person you actually see in it moving.
LeeNo.
LeeI think no, because Shell doesn't get in it cause her friend says it's too big.
LeeYeah, you're too big for it.
LeeAnd you went, oh, I've only been here five minutes and you called me fat.
LeeBut we do see Helen McCroy's character sit in it, but it doesn't move, she just sits in it at the bottom and then she gets up and wanders off, so, yeah.
AdamAnd also, and when Hexter appears, he just appears.
AdamLike you hear the stairlift.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd then they start using that as a scare tactic.
AdamBecause then the stairlift is like, you're aware of what that means.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd it's quite, you know, that's actually quite a unique.
AdamSort of scare, I think in something that they've used that.
AdamEspecially with the.
AdamYeah, I just think
AdamBecause the house being cold as well is that the other thing that they mentioned was, oh, and they talk about ice holding Satan.
Adamthat is in the ninth circle of hell.
AdamSo again, they're trying to bring it back to it's Inside Number Nine.
LeeYeah.
LeeThere's just so much goes in writing these and I, I think even if you don't pick up on all of them.
LeeIt just adds like another level, all those little extra bits that just goes to kind of solidify the universe that they're working in.
Lee
LeeYeah.
LeeAnd that's.
ChrisYou see why there was a place for, for that book that you've got Adam.
ChrisThe Insiders Guide.
AdamOh, fuck, yeah.
AdamI mean, this is the thing.
AdamThe podcast they did as well, Inside Inside Number Nine, much the same thing cause you get it's that like most things you can sort of like, oh, well, there's the thing.
AdamI enjoyed it, there's the commentary.
AdamI enjoyed it or whatever.
AdamWhereas actually with this, there's so many sort of bits and pieces that you miss out on or sort of.
AdamJust suddenly make you aware when you've got this dense thing.
ChrisYeah.
AdamAnd, you know, because there isn't a slight episode really of Inside Number Nine.
AdamThey, they're pretty, you know, it's pretty densely plotted or running out, you know, it's sort of, yeah.
LeeI can't work out how they have the time, like because they do so much other stuff as well.
LeeIt seems like the writing process just for a single episode must be months, the amount of stuff that they cram into it and yeah, and they still seem to be doing 101 other projects at the same time.
LeeThey must.
LeeYeah, they must literally sleep for about two hours a night.
LeeI think I don't know where else they manage it.
AdamAre they, are they sticking.
AdamTo the Vincent Price principal?
LeeOh, yeah.
AdamYou know, I'm not turning it down.
AdamI might not get off it again.
LeeYeah.
LeeYeah.
LeeIt must be exhausting.
LeeBut I mean, yeah, as fans of them, it's fantastic because it means there's always something being turned out and it's always top quality.
LeeAs you say, you know, like.
LeeYou know, how many seasons in a we now, seven, and there isn't a found in episode, there isn't a filler episode, there isn't one that you wouldn't go back and watch again.
LeeI mean.
LeeThere's ones I've said I won't go back and watch again, but not because they're not great.
LeeBut just because they pound the living shit out of me.
LeeThey really do.
LeeWhich is what they designed to do.
LeeSo.
AdamYeah.
AdamBut I think also it's it's there's not really a similar thing.
AdamYou haven't really had that thing of, oh, well, that was like that previous episode.
AdamOr that twist was similar to that.
AdamThey've really managed to keep out of, you know, doubling up or.
LeeI just don't know where they've done it for 60 odd episodes and kept everyone so fresh.
LeeAnd you know, even the gimmicky episodes and stuff.
LeeLike I love those, I think they're so.
LeeYeah, and just so well.
ChrisThey still work as the change.
LeeYeah.
LeeIt's not just like, oh, that's the, as you say, you know, the gimmicky one where they did it all in rhyme and stuff.
LeeLike, there's so much happens in that episode that's genuinely fantastic.
Leeand all they've really done is taken a really good episode.
LeeAnd made it even more difficult for themselves to write.
LeeYeah.
AdamYeah.
AdamYeah.
LeeI just, I love that.
LeeAnd like, and it's shot so.
LeeAnd that's the thing, although, you know, as we've said before.
LeeIt, it obviously draws quite a lot on that, House of the Devil, it's a very British version.
LeeLike, this is if Amicus did it.
Leeand I just love the look of everything.
LeeI mean, the house looks amazing.
LeeI mean, that artwork as well, when, when that goth girl turns up, Shelley and says, oh, I could live here.
LeeAnd I was like, I would kill to live there.
LeeYou're crazy, like it's, but maybe not with the cold.
LeeBut yeah, like.
LeeIt's so dark.
LeeBecause Jennifer mentioned while we were watching it this afternoon.
LeeShe was like, oh, I think we're gonna struggle to spot the the hair.
LeeOh, no, she said the opposite, sorry, she said it should be easy to spot the hair because the house is so kind of everyday.
LeeAnd I was like, yeah, but it's almost in the pitch black the whole way through.
LeeIt's really hard to, I did spot the hair in the end.
LeeI was quite pleased with myself.
AdamWhereabouts is it?
AdamI don't.
LeeSo when they go into Hector's bedroom and she picks up the guitar, there's a bedside lamp, there's like a bedside table with just a lamp and the hair is just the only thing that are the only other thing that's on the bedside table.
AdamOh, well.
AdamSpotted sir.
LeeBut yeah, that's the only time I've spotted it apart from in the episode where it plays obviously a massive part of the story.
AdamWell, this like like Seance Time, this is and The Riddle of the Sphinx.
AdamWe've accidentally ended up back at Lang Langberry House for the interiors.
Adam
AdamSo again, it's that really big, great gothic staircase.
Adam
LeeNow, I got it right. Sorry.
LeeI just, just before because you might be about to say it and I'm so pleased with myself that I think I spotted it.
LeeI believe that is the same staircase from Psychoville, that the house that the blind guy owned.
LeeOnly because I remember Daniel Kaluuya standing at the bottom of the stairs there.
Leeyeah, and him going, got a lot of stuff, mate.
AdamCause I think cause I think Psychoville and this.
AdamShoots it almost exactly the same.
LeeYeah.
AdamSo, you know.
AdamI think that,
AdamYeah, it's, it's in Psychoville, it was in White Chapel and it's yeah, it's rooms from it are in The Riddle of the Sphinx.
AdamSeance Time.
AdamMostly utilizing that staircase.
Adamthe, the chair the stairlift was a prop, but it wasn't functional.
AdamSo that's just going up on like a pulley.
LeeIt looks really good.
AdamIt looks really good.
AdamBut also when you think about it, you're like, actually, yeah, I don't think I see anyone.
ChrisAnd it was on its last leg.
AdamI think Shelley's the only person you actually see in it moving.
LeeNo.
LeeI think no, because Shell doesn't get in it cause her friend says it's too big.
LeeYeah, you're too big for it.
LeeAnd you went, oh, I've only been here five minutes and you called me fat.
LeeBut we do see Helen McCroy's character sit in it, but it doesn't move, she just sits in it at the bottom and then she gets up and wanders off, so, yeah.
AdamAnd also, and when Hexter appears, he just appears.
AdamLike you hear the stairlift.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd then they start using that as a scare tactic.
AdamBecause then the stairlift is like, you're aware of what that means.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd it's quite, you know, that's actually quite a unique.
AdamSort of scare, I think in something that they've used that.
AdamEspecially with the.
AdamYeah, I just think
AdamBecause the house being cold as well is that the other thing that they mentioned was, oh, and they talk about ice holding Satan.
Adamthat is in the ninth circle of hell.
AdamSo again, they're trying to bring it back to it's Inside Number Nine.
LeeYeah.
LeeThere's just so much goes in writing these and I, I think even if you don't pick up on all of them.
LeeIt just adds like another level, all those little extra bits that just goes to kind of solidify the universe that they're working in.
Lee
LeeYeah.
LeeAnd that's.
ChrisYou see why there was a place for, for that book that you've got Adam.
ChrisThe Insiders Guide.
AdamOh, fuck, yeah.
AdamI mean, this is the thing.
AdamThe podcast they did as well, Inside Inside Number Nine, much the same thing cause you get it's that like most things you can sort of like, oh, well, there's the thing.
AdamI enjoyed it, there's the commentary.
AdamI enjoyed it or whatever.
AdamWhereas actually with this, there's so many sort of bits and pieces that you miss out on or sort of.
AdamJust suddenly make you aware when you've got this dense thing.
ChrisYeah.
AdamAnd, you know, because there isn't a slight episode really of Inside Number Nine.
AdamThey, they're pretty, you know, it's pretty densely plotted or running out, you know, it's sort of, yeah.
LeeI can't work out how they have the time, like because they do so much other stuff as well.
LeeIt seems like the writing process just for a single episode must be months, the amount of stuff that they cram into it and yeah, and they still seem to be doing 101 other projects at the same time.
LeeThey must.
LeeYeah, they must literally sleep for about two hours a night.
LeeI think I don't know where else they manage it.
AdamAre they, are they sticking.
AdamTo the Vincent Price principal?
LeeOh, yeah.
AdamYou know, I'm not turning it down.
AdamI might not get off it again.
LeeYeah.
LeeYeah.
LeeIt must be exhausting.
LeeBut I mean, yeah, as fans of them, it's fantastic because it means there's always something being turned out and it's always top quality.
LeeAs you say, you know, like.
LeeYou know, how many seasons in a we now, seven, and there isn't a found in episode, there isn't a filler episode, there isn't one that you wouldn't go back and watch again.
LeeI mean.
LeeThere's ones I've said I won't go back and watch again, but not because they're not great.
LeeBut just because they pound the living shit out of me.
LeeThey really do.
LeeWhich is what they designed to do.
LeeSo.
AdamYeah.
AdamBut I think also it's it's there's not really a similar thing.
AdamYou haven't really had that thing of, oh, well, that was like that previous episode.
AdamOr that twist was similar to that.
AdamThey've really managed to keep out of, you know, doubling up or.
LeeI just don't know where they've done it for 60 odd episodes and kept everyone so fresh.
LeeAnd you know, even the gimmicky episodes and stuff.
LeeLike I love those, I think they're so.
LeeYeah, and just so well.
ChrisThey still work as the change.
LeeYeah.
LeeIt's not just like, oh, that's the, as you say, you know, the gimmicky one where they did it all in rhyme and stuff.
LeeLike, there's so much happens in that episode that's genuinely fantastic.
Leeand all they've really done is taken a really good episode.
LeeAnd made it even more difficult for themselves to write.
LeeYeah.
AdamYeah.
AdamYeah.
LeeI just, I love that.
LeeAnd like, and it's shot so.
LeeAnd that's the thing, although, you know, as we've said before, it, it obviously draws quite a lot on that, House of the Devil, it's a very British version.
LeeLike, this is if Amicus did it.
Leeand I just love the look of everything.
LeeI mean, the house looks amazing.
LeeI mean, that artwork as well, when, when that goth girl turns up, Shelley and says, oh, I could live here.
LeeAnd I was like, I would kill to live there.
LeeYou're crazy, like it's, but maybe not with the cold.
LeeBut yeah, like.
LeeIt's so dark.
LeeBecause Jennifer mentioned while we were watching it this afternoon.
LeeShe was like, oh, I think we're gonna struggle to spot the the hair.
LeeOh, no, she said the opposite, sorry, she said it should be easy to spot the hair because the house is so kind of everyday.
LeeAnd I was like, yeah, but it's almost in the pitch black the whole way through.
LeeIt's really hard to, I did spot the hair in the end.
LeeI was quite pleased with myself.
AdamWhereabouts is it?
AdamI don't.
LeeSo when they go into Hector's bedroom and she picks up the guitar, there's a bedside lamp, there's like a bedside table with just a lamp and the hair is just the only thing that are the only other thing that's on the bedside table.
AdamOh, well.
AdamSpotted sir.
LeeBut yeah, that's the only time I've spotted it apart from in the episode where it plays obviously a massive part of the story.
AdamWell, this like like Seance Time, this is and The Riddle of the Sphinx.
AdamWe've accidentally ended up back at Lang Langberry House for the interiors.
Adam
AdamSo again, it's that really big, great gothic staircase.
Adam
LeeNow, I got it right. Sorry.
LeeI just, just before because you might be about to say it and I'm so pleased with myself that I think I spotted it.
LeeI believe that is the same staircase from Psychoville, that the house that the blind guy owned.
LeeOnly because I remember Daniel Kaluuya standing at the bottom of the stairs there.
Leeyeah, and him going, got a lot of stuff, mate.
AdamCause I think cause I think Psychoville and this.
AdamShoots it almost exactly the same.
LeeYeah.
AdamSo, you know.
AdamI think that,
AdamYeah, it's, it's in Psychoville, it was in White Chapel and it's yeah, it's rooms from it are in The Riddle of the Sphinx.
AdamSeance Time.
AdamMostly utilizing that staircase.
Adamthe, the chair the stairlift was a prop, but it wasn't functional.
AdamSo that's just going up on like a pulley.
LeeIt looks really good.
AdamIt looks really good.
AdamBut also when you think about it, you're like, actually, yeah, I don't think I see anyone.
ChrisAnd it was on its last leg.
AdamI think Shelley's the only person you actually see in it moving.
LeeNo.
LeeI think no, because Shell doesn't get in it cause her friend says it's too big.
LeeYeah, you're too big for it.
LeeAnd you went, oh, I've only been here five minutes and you called me fat.
LeeBut we do see Helen McCroy's character sit in it, but it doesn't move, she just sits in it at the bottom and then she gets up and wanders off, so, yeah.
AdamAnd also, and when Hexter appears, he just appears.
AdamLike you hear the stairlift.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd then they start using that as a scare tactic.
AdamBecause then the stairlift is like, you're aware of what that means.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd it's quite, you know, that's actually quite a unique.
AdamSort of scare, I think in something that they've used that.
AdamEspecially with the.
AdamYeah, I just think
AdamBecause the house being cold as well is that the other thing that they mentioned was, oh, and they talk about ice holding Satan.
Adamthat is in the ninth circle of hell.
AdamSo again, they're trying to bring it back to it's Inside Number Nine.
LeeYeah.
LeeThere's just so much goes in writing these and I, I think even if you don't pick up on all of them.
LeeIt just adds like another level, all those little extra bits that just goes to kind of solidify the universe that they're working in.
Lee
LeeYeah.
LeeAnd that's.
ChrisYou see why there was a place for, for that book that you've got Adam.
ChrisThe Insiders Guide.
AdamOh, fuck, yeah.
AdamI mean, this is the thing.
AdamThe podcast they did as well, Inside Inside Number Nine, much the same thing cause you get it's that like most things you can sort of like, oh, well, there's the thing.
AdamI enjoyed it, there's the commentary.
AdamI enjoyed it or whatever.
AdamWhereas actually with this, there's so many sort of bits and pieces that you miss out on or sort of.
AdamJust suddenly make you aware when you've got this dense thing.
ChrisYeah.
AdamAnd, you know, because there isn't a slight episode really of Inside Number Nine.
AdamThey, they're pretty, you know, it's pretty densely plotted or running out, you know, it's sort of, yeah.
LeeI can't work out how they have the time, like because they do so much other stuff as well.
LeeIt seems like the writing process just for a single episode must be months, the amount of stuff that they cram into it and yeah, and they still seem to be doing 101 other projects at the same time.
LeeThey must.
LeeYeah, they must literally sleep for about two hours a night.
LeeI think I don't know where else they manage it.
AdamAre they, are they sticking.
AdamTo the Vincent Price principal?
LeeOh, yeah.
AdamYou know, I'm not turning it down.
AdamI might not get off it again.
LeeYeah.
LeeYeah.
LeeIt must be exhausting.
LeeBut I mean, yeah, as fans of them, it's fantastic because it means there's always something being turned out and it's always top quality.
LeeAs you say, you know, like.
LeeYou know, how many seasons in a we now, seven, and there isn't a found in episode, there isn't a filler episode, there isn't one that you wouldn't go back and watch again.
LeeI mean.
LeeThere's ones I've said I won't go back and watch again, but not because they're not great.
LeeBut just because they pound the living shit out of me.
LeeThey really do.
LeeWhich is what they designed to do.
LeeSo.
AdamYeah.
AdamBut I think also it's it's there's not really a similar thing.
AdamYou haven't really had that thing of, oh, well, that was like that previous episode.
AdamOr that twist was similar to that.
AdamThey've really managed to keep out of, you know, doubling up or.
LeeI just don't know where they've done it for 60 odd episodes and kept everyone so fresh.
LeeAnd you know, even the gimmicky episodes and stuff.
LeeLike I love those, I think they're so.
LeeYeah, and just so well.
ChrisThey still work as the change.
LeeYeah.
LeeIt's not just like, oh, that's the, as you say, you know, the gimmicky one where they did it all in rhyme and stuff.
LeeLike, there's so much happens in that episode that's genuinely fantastic.
Leeand all they've really done is taken a really good episode.
LeeAnd made it even more difficult for themselves to write.
LeeYeah.
AdamYeah.
AdamYeah.
LeeI just, I love that.
LeeAnd like, and it's shot so.
LeeAnd that's the thing, although, you know, as we've said before, it, it obviously draws quite a lot on that, House of the Devil, it's a very British version.
LeeLike, this is if Amicus did it.
Leeand I just love the look of everything.
LeeI mean, the house looks amazing.
LeeI mean, that artwork as well, when, when that goth girl turns up, Shelley and says, oh, I could live here.
LeeAnd I was like, I would kill to live there.
LeeYou're crazy, like it's, but maybe not with the cold.
LeeBut yeah, like.
LeeIt's so dark.
LeeBecause Jennifer mentioned while we were watching it this afternoon.
LeeShe was like, oh, I think we're gonna struggle to spot the the hair.
LeeOh, no, she said the opposite, sorry, she said it should be easy to spot the hair because the house is so kind of everyday.
LeeAnd I was like, yeah, but it's almost in the pitch black the whole way through.
LeeIt's really hard to, I did spot the hair in the end.
LeeI was quite pleased with myself.
AdamWhereabouts is it?
AdamI don't.
LeeSo when they go into Hector's bedroom and she picks up the guitar, there's a bedside lamp, there's like a bedside table with just a lamp and the hair is just the only thing that are the only other thing that's on the bedside table.
AdamOh, well.
AdamSpotted sir.
LeeBut yeah, that's the only time I've spotted it apart from in the episode where it plays obviously a massive part of the story.
AdamWell, this like like Seance Time, this is and The Riddle of the Sphinx.
AdamWe've accidentally ended up back at Lang Langberry House for the interiors.
Adam
AdamSo again, it's that really big, great gothic staircase.
Adam
LeeNow, I got it right. Sorry.
LeeI just, just before because you might be about to say it and I'm so pleased with myself that I think I spotted it.
LeeI believe that is the same staircase from Psychoville, that the house that the blind guy owned.
LeeOnly because I remember Daniel Kaluuya standing at the bottom of the stairs there.
Leeyeah, and him going, got a lot of stuff, mate.
AdamCause I think cause I think Psychoville and this.
AdamShoots it almost exactly the same.
LeeYeah.
AdamSo, you know.
AdamI think that,
AdamYeah, it's, it's in Psychoville, it was in White Chapel and it's yeah, it's rooms from it are in The Riddle of the Sphinx.
AdamSeance Time.
AdamMostly utilizing that staircase.
Adamthe, the chair the stairlift was a prop, but it wasn't functional.
AdamSo that's just going up on like a pulley.
LeeIt looks really good.
AdamIt looks really good.
AdamBut also when you think about it, you're like, actually, yeah, I don't think I see anyone.
ChrisAnd it was on its last leg.
AdamI think Shelley's the only person you actually see in it moving.
LeeNo.
LeeI think no, because Shell doesn't get in it cause her friend says it's too big.
LeeYeah, you're too big for it.
LeeAnd you went, oh, I've only been here five minutes and you called me fat.
LeeBut we do see Helen McCroy's character sit in it, but it doesn't move, she just sits in it at the bottom and then she gets up and wanders off, so, yeah.
AdamAnd also, and when Hexter appears, he just appears.
AdamLike you hear the stairlift.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd then they start using that as a scare tactic.
AdamBecause then the stairlift is like, you're aware of what that means.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd it's quite, you know, that's actually quite a unique.
AdamSort of scare, I think in something that they've used that.
AdamEspecially with the.
AdamYeah, I just think
AdamBecause the house being cold as well is that the other thing that they mentioned was, oh, and they talk about ice holding Satan.
Adamthat is in the ninth circle of hell.
AdamSo again, they're trying to bring it back to it's Inside Number Nine.
LeeYeah.
LeeThere's just so much goes in writing these and I, I think even if you don't pick up on all of them.
LeeIt just adds like another level, all those little extra bits that just goes to kind of solidify the universe that they're working in.
Lee
LeeYeah.
LeeAnd that's.
ChrisYou see why there was a place for, for that book that you've got Adam.
ChrisThe Insiders Guide.
AdamOh, fuck, yeah.
AdamI mean, this is the thing.
AdamThe podcast they did as well, Inside Inside Number Nine, much the same thing cause you get it's that like most things you can sort of like, oh, well, there's the thing.
AdamI enjoyed it, there's the commentary.
AdamI enjoyed it or whatever.
AdamWhereas actually with this, there's so many sort of bits and pieces that you miss out on or sort of.
AdamJust suddenly make you aware when you've got this dense thing.
ChrisYeah.
AdamAnd, you know, because there isn't a slight episode really of Inside Number Nine.
AdamThey, they're pretty, you know, it's pretty densely plotted or running out, you know, it's sort of, yeah.
LeeI can't work out how they have the time, like because they do so much other stuff as well.
LeeIt seems like the writing process just for a single episode must be months, the amount of stuff that they cram into it and yeah, and they still seem to be doing 101 other projects at the same time.
LeeThey must.
LeeYeah, they must literally sleep for about two hours a night.
LeeI think I don't know where else they manage it.
AdamAre they, are they sticking.
AdamTo the Vincent Price principal?
LeeOh, yeah.
AdamYou know, I'm not turning it down.
AdamI might not get off it again.
LeeYeah.
LeeYeah.
LeeIt must be exhausting.
LeeBut I mean, yeah, as fans of them, it's fantastic because it means there's always something being turned out and it's always top quality.
LeeAs you say, you know, like.
LeeYou know, how many seasons in a we now, seven, and there isn't a found in episode, there isn't a filler episode, there isn't one that you wouldn't go back and watch again.
LeeI mean.
LeeThere's ones I've said I won't go back and watch again, but not because they're not great.
LeeBut just because they pound the living shit out of me.
LeeThey really do.
LeeWhich is what they designed to do.
LeeSo.
AdamYeah.
AdamBut I think also it's it's there's not really a similar thing.
AdamYou haven't really had that thing of, oh, well, that was like that previous episode.
AdamOr that twist was similar to that.
AdamThey've really managed to keep out of, you know, doubling up or.
LeeI just don't know where they've done it for 60 odd episodes and kept everyone so fresh.
LeeAnd you know, even the gimmicky episodes and stuff.
LeeLike I love those, I think they're so.
LeeYeah, and just so well.
ChrisThey still work as the change.
LeeYeah.
LeeIt's not just like, oh, that's the, as you say, you know, the gimmicky one where they did it all in rhyme and stuff.
LeeLike, there's so much happens in that episode that's genuinely fantastic.
Leeand all they've really done is taken a really good episode.
LeeAnd made it even more difficult for themselves to write.
LeeYeah.
AdamYeah.
AdamYeah.
LeeI just, I love that.
LeeAnd like, and it's shot so.
LeeAnd that's the thing, although, you know, as we've said before, it, it obviously draws quite a lot on that, House of the Devil, it's a very British version.
LeeLike, this is if Amicus did it.
Leeand I just love the look of everything.
LeeI mean, the house looks amazing.
LeeI mean, that artwork as well, when, when that goth girl turns up, Shelley and says, oh, I could live here.
LeeAnd I was like, I would kill to live there.
LeeYou're crazy, like it's, but maybe not with the cold.
LeeBut yeah, like.
LeeIt's so dark.
LeeBecause Jennifer mentioned while we were watching it this afternoon.
LeeShe was like, oh, I think we're gonna struggle to spot the the hair.
LeeOh, no, she said the opposite, sorry, she said it should be easy to spot the hair because the house is so kind of everyday.
LeeAnd I was like, yeah, but it's almost in the pitch black the whole way through.
LeeIt's really hard to, I did spot the hair in the end.
LeeI was quite pleased with myself.
AdamWhereabouts is it?
AdamI don't.
LeeSo when they go into Hector's bedroom and she picks up the guitar, there's a bedside lamp, there's like a bedside table with just a lamp and the hair is just the only thing that are the only other thing that's on the bedside table.
AdamOh, well.
AdamSpotted sir.
LeeBut yeah, that's the only time I've spotted it apart from in the episode where it plays obviously a massive part of the story.
AdamWell, this like like Seance Time, this is and The Riddle of the Sphinx.
AdamWe've accidentally ended up back at Lang Langberry House for the interiors.
Adam
AdamSo again, it's that really big, great gothic staircase.
Adam
LeeNow, I got it right. Sorry.
LeeI just, just before because you might be about to say it and I'm so pleased with myself that I think I spotted it.
LeeI believe that is the same staircase from Psychoville, that the house that the blind guy owned.
LeeOnly because I remember Daniel Kaluuya standing at the bottom of the stairs there.
Leeyeah, and him going, got a lot of stuff, mate.
AdamCause I think cause I think Psychoville and this.
AdamShoots it almost exactly the same.
LeeYeah.
AdamSo, you know.
AdamI think that,
AdamYeah, it's, it's in Psychoville, it was in White Chapel and it's yeah, it's rooms from it are in The Riddle of the Sphinx.
AdamSeance Time.
AdamMostly utilizing that staircase.
Adamthe, the chair the stairlift was a prop, but it wasn't functional.
AdamSo that's just going up on like a pulley.
LeeIt looks really good.
AdamIt looks really good.
AdamBut also when you think about it, you're like, actually, yeah, I don't think I see anyone.
ChrisAnd it was on its last leg.
AdamI think Shelley's the only person you actually see in it moving.
LeeNo.
LeeI think no, because Shell doesn't get in it cause her friend says it's too big.
LeeYeah, you're too big for it.
LeeAnd you went, oh, I've only been here five minutes and you called me fat.
LeeBut we do see Helen McCroy's character sit in it, but it doesn't move, she just sits in it at the bottom and then she gets up and wanders off, so, yeah.
AdamAnd also, and when Hexter appears, he just appears.
AdamLike you hear the stairlift.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd then they start using that as a scare tactic.
AdamBecause then the stairlift is like, you're aware of what that means.
LeeYeah.
AdamAnd it's quite, you know, that's actually quite a unique.
AdamSort of scare, I think in something that they've used that.
AdamEspecially with the.
AdamYeah, I just think
AdamBecause the house being cold as well is that the other thing that they mentioned was, oh, and they talk about ice holding Satan.
Adamthat is in the ninth circle of hell.
AdamSo again, they're trying to bring it back to it's Inside Number Nine.
LeeYeah.
LeeThere's just so much goes in writing these and I, I think even if you don't pick up on all of them.
LeeIt just adds like another level, all those little extra bits that just goes to kind of solidify the universe that they're working in.
Lee
LeeYeah.
LeeAnd that's.
ChrisYou see why there was a place for, for that book that you've got Adam.
ChrisThe Insiders Guide.
AdamOh, fuck, yeah.
AdamI mean, this is the thing.
AdamThe podcast they did as well, Inside Inside Number Nine, much the same thing cause you get it's that like most things you can sort of like, oh, well, there's the thing.
AdamI enjoyed it, there's the commentary.
AdamI enjoyed it or whatever.
AdamWhereas actually with this, there's so many sort of bits and pieces that you miss out on or sort of.
AdamJust suddenly make you aware when you've got this dense thing.
ChrisYeah.
AdamAnd, you know, because there isn't a slight episode really of Inside Number Nine.
AdamThey, they're pretty, you know, it's pretty densely plotted or running out, you know, it's sort of, yeah.
LeeI can't work out how they have the time, like because they do so much other stuff as well.
LeeIt seems like the writing process just for a single episode must be months, the amount of stuff that they cram into it and yeah, and they still seem to be doing 101 other projects at the same time.
LeeThey must.
LeeYeah, they must literally sleep for about two hours a night.
LeeI think I don't know where else they manage it.
AdamAre they, are they sticking.
AdamTo the Vincent Price principal?
LeeOh, yeah.
AdamYou know, I'm not turning it down.
AdamI might not get off it again.
LeeYeah.
LeeYeah.
LeeIt must be exhausting.
LeeBut I mean, yeah, as fans of them, it's fantastic because it means there's always something being turned out and it's always top quality.
LeeAs you say, you know, like.
LeeYou know, how many seasons in a we now, seven, and there isn't a found in episode, there isn't a filler episode, there isn't one that you wouldn't go back and watch again.
LeeI mean.
LeeThere's ones I've said I won't go back and watch again, but not because they're not great.
LeeBut just because they pound the living shit out of me.
LeeThey really do.
LeeWhich is what they designed to do.
LeeSo.
AdamYeah.
AdamBut I think also it's it's there's not really a similar thing.
AdamYou haven't really had that thing of, oh, well, that was like that previous episode.
AdamOr that twist was similar to that.
AdamThey've really managed to keep out of, you know, doubling up or.
LeeI just don't know where they've done it for 60 odd episodes and kept everyone so fresh.
LeeAnd you know, even the gimmicky episodes and stuff.
LeeLike I love those, I think they're so.
LeeYeah, and just so well.
ChrisThey still work as the change.
LeeYeah.
LeeIt's not just like, oh, that's the, as you say, you know, the gimmicky one where they did it all in rhyme and stuff.
LeeLike, there's so much happens in that episode that's genuinely fantastic.
Leeand all they've really done is taken a really good episode.
LeeAnd made it even more difficult for themselves to write.
LeeYeah.
AdamYeah.
AdamYeah.
LeeI just, I love that.
LeeAnd like, and it's shot so.
LeeAnd that's the thing, although, you know, as we've said before, it, it obviously draws quite a lot on that, House of the Devil, it's a very British version.
LeeLike, this is if Amicus did it.
Leeand I just love the look of everything.
LeeI mean, the house looks amazing.
LeeI mean, that artwork as well, when, when that goth girl turns up, Shelley and says, oh, I could live here.
LeeAnd I was like, I would kill to live there.
LeeYou're crazy, like it's, but maybe not with the cold.
LeeBut yeah, like.
LeeIt's so dark.
LeeBecause Jennifer mentioned while we were watching it this afternoon.
LeeShe was like, oh, I think we're gonna struggle to spot the the hair.
LeeOh, no, she said the opposite, sorry, she said it should be easy to spot the hair because the house is so kind of everyday.
LeeAnd I was like, yeah, but it's almost in the pitch black the whole way through.
LeeIt's really hard to, I did spot the hair in the end.
LeeI was quite pleased with myself.
AdamWhereabouts is it?
AdamI don't.
LeeSo when they go into Hector's bedroom and she picks up the guitar, there's a bedside lamp, there's like a bedside table with just a lamp and the hair is just the only thing that are the only other thing that's on the bedside table.
AdamOh, well.
AdamSpotted sir.
LeeBut yeah, that's the only time I've spotted it apart from in the episode where it plays obviously a massive part of the story.
AdamWell, this like like Seance Time, this is and The Riddle of the Sphinx.
AdamWe've accidentally ended up back at Lang Langberry House for the interiors.
Adam
AdamSo again, it's that really big, great gothic staircase.
Adam
LeeNow, I got it right. Sorry.
LeeI just, just before because you might be about to say it and I'm so pleased with myself that I think I spotted it.
LeeI believe that is the same staircase from Psychoville, that the house that the blind guy owned.
LeeOnly because I remember Daniel Kaluuya standing at the bottom of the stairs there.
Leeyeah, and him going, got a lot of stuff, mate.
AdamCause I think cause I think Psychoville and this.
AdamShoots it almost exactly the same.
LeeYeah.
AdamSo, you know.
AdamI think that,
AdamYeah, it's, it's in Psychoville, it was in White Chapel and it's yeah, it's rooms from it are in The Riddle of the Sphinx.
AdamSeance Time.
AdamMostly utilizing that staircase.
Adamthe, the chair the stairlift was a prop, but it wasn't functional.
AdamSo that's just going up on like a pulley.
LeeIt looks really good.
